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[01:56:31] <_DJ_> moin
[04:24:39] <hiroshima5> i have been investigating about e100 baldor drives
[04:24:50] <hiroshima5> and they use canopen dsp402 protocol
[04:27:10] <hiroshima5> anybody has used a fpga with canopen???
[04:40:20] <kengu> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/documentation there is integrators manual (link)
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/LinuxCNC_Integrator_Manual.pdf that produces 404 not found
[04:57:49] <MattyMatt> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mitsubishi-VFD-FR-720S-100-EC-2-2kW-10A-/261327511657 anyone know if these have analog contols in addition to the 485/modbus?
[05:00:58] <MattyMatt> they're about the same price as the common chinese ones, but the chinese ones are common - which improves servicability IMO
[05:03:32] <archivist> while those drives look good the auction seller lacks credibility
[05:03:57] <archivist> claims new but they are filthy
[05:05:23] <MattyMatt> Q2: if the mitsu ones have analog input, which input would be best to use, considering I'd need to buy a mesa card either way?
[05:05:29] <MattyMatt> yeah they dusty
[05:05:44] <MattyMatt> but that could be 10 minutes in a woodwork shop
[05:05:48] <archivist> you can download the manual
[05:06:18] <archivist> is the auction for 1 or 5 off
[05:06:34] <MattyMatt> buy it now, 1 off
[05:07:25] <archivist> the pictures show more than one
[05:07:43] <MattyMatt> yep, which is why I'm sharing the link :)
[05:07:44] <archivist> that is one lazy seller
[05:08:46] <MattyMatt> I can't really afford one tbh. I have a 500W palm router to use up first
[05:11:14] <archivist> I need two of them but have no cash
[05:12:34] <archivist> cannot find a report item category to whine at ebay , it almost seems a bad listing is acceptable policy
[05:13:07] <MattyMatt> caveat emptor. bad listings lower the price IME
[05:13:45] <MattyMatt> I got some lovely ballscrews that were described as travelling struts
[05:15:00] <MattyMatt> MOD nomenclature
[05:16:27] <MattyMatt> asking questions to the vendor helps them improve the listing, I find, but that just helps the competition if it's a bidding war :)
[05:18:04] <archivist> I just found a valid whine so sent that, misleading title
[05:19:28] <archivist> his having a date in his name and a score of 0 tells me he is a regular bad seller :)
[05:19:59] <MattyMatt> or a genuine noob
[05:20:25] <MattyMatt> not saying 1 off 5 available is a noob mistake
[05:21:45] <archivist> dont think he is a noob, an honest user would never tick new for those dusty items
[05:22:16] <MattyMatt> a proper crook woulda dusted them off, with Mr Sheen
[05:25:31] <MattyMatt> I use a soft 3" paintbrush to dust electronics
[05:25:49] <MattyMatt> nylon bristles asking for static trouble, but hey
[05:26:24] <archivist> brush and vacuum cleaner...ex TV engineer :)
[05:28:34] <RyanS> Is a BF20 size mill at all useful as a glorified drill press and stock square upperer... I'm still procrastinating about CNC
[05:29:59] <RyanS> Probably no reason you can't square stuff CNC, jogging etc
[05:32:03] <MattyMatt> you could get one and CNC at your leisure
[05:33:41] <RyanS> I'm probably in the wrong channel and don't need the headache of conversion :P
[05:33:47] <MattyMatt> ready-converted always seems overpriced to me
[05:34:03] <MattyMatt> my time is cheap :)
[05:35:48] <MattyMatt> I don't have any real experience, but I'd imagine a horizontal mill or surface grinder are the best for squaring stock
[05:36:26] <MattyMatt> with a good heavy bed, and basic power feed
[05:37:48] <RyanS> I had thought about it , however, because of my disability I hire help , so I don't want to use up that time doing the conversion. Although the price is making me cringe
[05:40:26] <MattyMatt> I got a knee mill base, and I've only used it manually with a horizontal dremel so far. I might keep it manual it's handy
[05:41:56] <RyanS> I suppose I intend on designing everything in CAD and hopefully eliminate or at least minimise things like old school dye and layout
[05:43:05] <MattyMatt> sometimes I find that's a way to overthink and procrastinate. I get more done with a back of envelope and get-stuck-in attitude :)
[05:43:37] <MattyMatt> cad is less cash intensive than ruined materials tho, so it's risky
[05:45:34] <MattyMatt> so much is a tradeoff between cash and time :p
[05:46:02] <MattyMatt> even with no cash, I do try to value myself at minimum wage
[05:46:38] <archivist> minimum wage! that is a bit rich :)
[05:47:00] <archivist> income last week a tenner
[05:47:08] <MattyMatt> it's more than I make in reality
[05:48:00] <RyanS> urghhh BF20L table travel looks ridiculous . It looks like it's going to fall of the side off the machine
[05:48:04] <MattyMatt> time is the most liquid asset, and the scarcest resource
[05:50:15] <MattyMatt> you could put a decent x/y table on a cheap drill press, for drilling
[05:50:46] <MattyMatt> and improvise a milling head for it maybe?
[05:51:00] <RyanS> I have one on benchtop drill press. That's why I want to upgrade to a pedestal
[05:51:21] <MattyMatt> is it bolted to the bench?
[05:52:02] <RyanS> yeh
[05:53:10] <MattyMatt> my life got easier when I sussed weighing my workmate with a plank and 25kg of cement. I don't have to stand on one leg anymore
[05:53:24] <RyanS> the DP not X/Y table
[05:55:16] <MattyMatt> http://opensourcemachine.org/files/German%20Epoxy%20Granite%20Milling%20Machine.pdf dream machine
[05:55:34] <MattyMatt> solid as a rocky rock
[05:58:46] <MattyMatt> looks like approx £100 of epoxy in there, and a whole heap of spare time
[06:00:18] <MattyMatt> I'me still transitioning from plywood to aluminium. epoxy granite looks like a neat way to jump up to high quality bypassing the alu and cast iron domains
[06:07:59] <jthornton> nice little mill
[06:20:25] <MattyMatt> wow, the epoxy they used is cheaper than I expected
http://shop1.r-g.de/item/103100
[06:21:36] <MattyMatt> much cheaper, the only pure epoxy I've found previously (no polyester) was £45 per litre
[06:22:49] <MattyMatt> you need pure to get zero shinkage, I've read
[06:24:29] <skunkworks> whatcha making?
[06:29:52] <jthornton> just what I need something to do with those linear rails I have
[06:36:31] <kengu> "The configuration wizards know how to set up a switch to be both home and limit. That is generally the easy way" says andypugh but where is this setting in what wizard
[06:41:21] <MacGalempsy> morning
[06:42:03] <kengu> morn
[06:42:06] <kengu> ing
[06:44:11] <jthornton> which wizard are you using?
[06:45:01] <Tom_itx> the one from oz?
[06:47:58] <kengu> jthornton: i don't know about wizard but pncconf
[06:48:33] <jthornton> I don't know about pncconf
[06:48:41] <jthornton> just stepconf
[06:50:24] <kengu> i tried looking for the setting in stepconf but did not find that combine in stepconf eithre
[06:51:01] <kengu> actually i did find it
[06:51:03] <kengu> from stepconf
[06:51:29] <jthornton> well, you won't use stepconf if your using anything else but the parallel port
[06:51:43] <kengu> yeah but just to figure out where the setting is
[06:52:01] <jthornton> pncconf is for Mesa cards and is a totally different than stepconf
[06:52:06] <jthornton> so which one are you using?
[06:52:35] <kengu> yeah. but I did find the setting now from pncconf after spying from stepconf
[06:53:18] <kengu> there is this "limits/home shared" input category in pncconf that I for some reason had not seen before
[06:53:37] <jthornton> you know more than I do now...
[06:54:08] <kengu> well.. you would have been able to spot the same thing if you knew how it is dealt with in stepconf
[06:54:54] <Tom_itx> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Homing_And_Limit_Switch
[06:55:23] <kengu> Tom_itx: that i do have open but it was about the wizard
[06:55:52] <Tom_itx> take a step out beyond the wizard
[06:56:01] <Tom_itx> it's painless
[06:56:55] <kengu> i might, as I did with the laser
[06:58:38] <Tom_itx> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini_config.html
[06:59:26] <Tom_itx> 2.10.1
[07:00:22] <Tom_itx> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini_homing.html#cha:homing-configuration
[07:16:12] <Loetmichel> *grrrr*
[07:16:20] <archivist> aw
[07:17:37] * Loetmichel is stating: F1200 si a BIT much for a 2mm 2 flute 0,5mm deep in ALMG3... even at 24kRPM... especially when the aluminium sheet istnt really fixed and bends uop a mm , so its effectively 1,5mm deep in the cut...
[07:18:00] <Loetmichel> <- mounts new mill bit and reduces the feed to 80% ;-)
[07:20:27] <archivist> lubrication and chip clearance
[07:23:31] <archivist> and...a nicer less sticky aluminium
[07:34:30] <Tom_itx> is that a euro alloy description?
[07:35:58] <Tom_itx> mostly Mag it seems
[07:36:03] <archivist> dural if you want an original tradename
[07:36:18] <Tom_itx> 5000 series al
[07:36:22] <archivist> aluminium with a bit of copper
[07:46:48] <Loetmichel> Tom_itx: 97% alumnimum, 3% mg
[07:46:56] <Loetmichel> standard "milling quaitiy"
[07:51:16] <MacGalempsy> guys, I am trying to make a generic fault reset using an output on the 7i77. a little help on the easiest way?
[07:51:47] <MacGalempsy> or is it just true/false?
[07:51:50] <archivist> input?
[07:52:17] <MacGalempsy> it is supposed to ground to resest the amp.
[07:52:30] <MacGalempsy> I would like to make a halui button to reset the fault from the UI
[08:00:35] <jdh> use the 7i77 to drive a relay
[08:06:02] <MacGalempsy> why cany it just ground?
[08:06:26] <jdh> because it is a sourcing output?
[08:07:21] <jdh> perhaps a pull-down on the drive reset line and have the output on to keep it high
[08:09:06] <MacGalempsy> is that something radioshack might have?
[08:09:37] <jdh> a resistor? or the relay? They will have both.
[08:09:56] <MacGalempsy> I have one more set of 4 relays
[08:10:19] <jdh> might wait for pcw to show up for a more definitive answer.
[08:11:10] <MacGalempsy> oh, use a resistor to drop the voltage below the cuttoff?
[08:11:56] <MacGalempsy> because the drive resets with a 0.5v
[08:12:17] <MacGalempsy> off would be active
[08:18:57] <MacGalempsy> probably would just be easier to use the extra relay board
[08:22:11] <jdh> that would be my inclination.
[08:22:44] <jdh> or a momenatary pushbutton
[08:23:09] <jdh> or use another set of contacts on your Reset button
[08:44:24] <MacGalempsy> jdhhad one more open relay left, so just ran all three of the resets to the same relay
[08:44:54] <MacGalempsy> even had an ground waiting
[08:45:03] <MacGalempsy> goodmorning PCW
[08:54:49] <Tom_itx> you want a 'soft' button or a physical reset button?
[08:56:08] <MacGalempsy> Tom_itx: the amplifier resets require ground to reset. the solution was to run all 3 amplifier resets to a single line, then run it to a relay connected to a ground
[08:56:37] <Tom_itx> or a simple transistor
[08:56:50] <Tom_itx> with the base tied to your control line
[08:57:02] <MacGalempsy> since there was room, its time to push forward, heh.
[08:59:08] <MacGalempsy> however, afterhooking up the 7i84, show pins reveals the pins, but linuxcnc will not open.
[08:59:18] <jdh> in theory, I'm working.
[08:59:26] <Tom_itx> in practice?
[08:59:35] <jdh> I'm appearing to be working?
[08:59:38] <archivist> asleep
[09:00:16] <MacGalempsy> at the county we called that windingup
[09:00:27] <MacGalempsy> that took until about lunch
[09:00:34] <Tom_itx> MacGalempsy, you have a relay driver board?
[09:01:15] <MacGalempsy> yep, bought 4 4 channel relays. used 3 and every port is occupied
[09:01:19] <Tom_itx> otherwise you need to consider back emf on the control signal when the coil lets go
[09:01:58] <MacGalempsy> so the task at hand it to start making a control panel to manual flip switches
[09:05:59] <jdh> a real panel, or a virtual panel?
[09:06:48] <MacGalempsy> virtual.
[09:07:01] <MacGalempsy> for the touchscreen
[09:07:57] <MacGalempsy> but there is a HM2_pci error when trying to start linuxcnc with the 7i84 plugged in
[09:08:30] <MacGalempsy> think it has something to do with the config, but cannot find any reference to setting up this combo of mesa cards
[09:09:25] <JT_Shop> what is the exact error/?
[09:09:27] <pcw_home> what is the error?
[09:10:10] <MacGalempsy> tried to paste bin it. going to the garage
[09:10:36] <pcw_home> the error should be 1 line
[09:11:25] <pcw_home> (usually the one with the hal file line number)
[09:11:46] <MacGalempsy> 37.insmod: error inserting '/usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/modules/linuxcnc/hm2_pci.ko': -1 Invalid parameters
[09:16:10] <pcw_home> probably a bad config=" line
[09:16:32] <MacGalempsy> that is what I was thinking, but could not find an example of the appropriate line
[09:17:06] <MacGalempsy> where do I look for that information? t
[09:17:10] <pcw_home> man hostmot2
[09:19:18] <pcw_home> There should be a more descriptive error
[09:19:19] <pcw_home> (probable error is illegal sserial mode if you only get an error when the 7I84 is there)
[09:19:49] <MacGalempsy> http://pastebin.com/PTHpuc9y
[09:19:57] <MacGalempsy> that is the entire dmesg
[09:20:23] <pcw_home> [ 3504.670496] hm2/hm2_5i25.0: Smart serial card 7i84.0.2 error = (30) Illegal Remote Mode
[09:20:55] <MacGalempsy> what does that mean?
[09:21:27] <pcw_home> it means you selected a mode the 7I84 does not support
[09:22:42] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Why does it say "remote" ?
[09:23:17] <Tom_itx> it can be far away
[09:23:44] <Jymmm> Like off to college?
[09:24:03] <Tom_itx> it's out to lunch right now
[09:24:29] <MacGalempsy> i guess the loadrt hm2_pci config statement is wrong
[09:25:17] <MacGalempsy> ahh serial port number
[09:25:49] <pcw_home> Yes, specifically the sserial_port_0=123XXX line
[09:26:30] <pcw_home> take a look at the hm2 man page sserial section
[09:26:43] <Jymmm> That's a fucked up convoluted error message for a misconfiged port #
[09:26:55] <pcw_home> its not a port #
[09:27:41] <pcw_home> its correct and succinct
[09:27:48] <MacGalempsy> the port is set for only a 7i77
[09:28:08] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Why does it say "remote" ?
[09:28:36] <Jymmm> pcw_home: It's ambiguous is what it is.
[09:28:44] <pcw_home> because these are all sserial remote I/O devices
[09:29:15] <Jymmm> pcw_home: "remote" implies the existence of "local"
[09:29:31] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Is there a "local" ?
[09:29:37] <pcw_home> yes
[09:29:45] <Jymmm> pcw_home: and the difference?
[09:30:06] <pcw_home> local is the sserial master
[09:31:01] <pcw_home> MacGalempsy: take a look at the hm2 manual page sserial section about setting remote modes
[09:31:22] <pcw_home> and the 7I84 manual about supported modes
[09:32:13] <pcw_home> most likely there is a number in the mode setting string thats not legal for the 7I84
[09:35:59] <pcw_home> in your setup sserial_port_0=123xxx
[09:36:01] <pcw_home> would set
[09:36:02] <pcw_home> channel 0 (7I77 field I/O) to mode 1
[09:36:04] <pcw_home> channel 1 (7I77 analog out) to mode 2
[09:36:05] <pcw_home> channel 2 (7I84) to mode 3
[09:36:07] <pcw_home> (not that these are legal modes)
[09:41:22] <MacGalempsy> so how do I know which position relates to which terminal block?
[09:42:17] <pcw_home> ?
[09:42:44] <MacGalempsy> I see what you wrote there, but im just trying to figure out the logic
[09:43:12] <pcw_home> did you read the manual page?
[09:46:55] <pcw_home> on you linuxcnc machine in a terminal window type:
[09:46:57] <pcw_home> man hostmot2
[09:46:58] <pcw_home> or google
[09:47:00] <pcw_home> man hostmot2
[10:08:41] <MacGalempsy> pcw_home: I am confused how the 7i77 uses 000xxx, do I need to make the xxx inot the modes for the 7i84?
[10:09:35] <MacGalempsy> nevermind
[10:19:36] <MacGalempsy> i am confused how the 5i25 7i77 works with 000xxx, but where does the 7i84 go?
[10:20:53] <MacGalempsy> the instructions dont really give any examples
[10:28:48] <JT_Shop> the 123xxx is a configuration string for the sserial port...
[10:29:13] * JT_Shop does not fully understand which channel does what on the 5i25 or where the channels are
[10:29:50] <MacGalempsy> when I use that, the remote error comes up the 7i84 mode I want to use is 0
[10:30:01] <MacGalempsy> but even if I use 000000 it does not load
[10:30:23] <pcw_home> strange, possible power problems?
[10:30:33] <MacGalempsy> I was thinking about that
[10:30:41] <MacGalempsy> only 3 lights are on t
[10:30:47] <MacGalempsy> he 7i84
[10:31:06] <pcw_home> do you have a red light
[10:31:10] <MacGalempsy> yes
[10:31:21] <Jymmm> Roxanne...........................
[10:31:24] <MacGalempsy> when I do a show pins, everything shows up
[10:31:55] <pcw_home> what is your exact hm2_pci config line?
[10:32:40] <MacGalempsy> I tried 020xxx and it didnt work
[10:32:59] <MacGalempsy> trying to understand what each position in the address means?
[10:33:08] <pcw_home> that cannot possibly work
[10:33:33] <MacGalempsy> I want to run mode 3 on the 7i77 and mode 0 on the 7i84
[10:33:54] <pcw_home> as the manual says they are channels numbers in left to right order
[10:34:35] <MacGalempsy> but there are no practical examples
[10:34:38] <pcw_home> on a standar 7I77 config 7I77 channel 0 is Field I/O, 1 is anlog out and 2 is the expansion port
[10:36:12] <MacGalempsy> so 000xxx should work, right?
[10:36:20] <MacGalempsy> of 300xxx?
[10:36:27] <pcw_home> sserial_port_0=000xxx should work
[10:39:15] <MacGalempsy> ah, that worked. thanks a bunch!
[10:40:06] <MacGalempsy> this whole process is quite humbling. i have a research degree, but the learning curve is so high.
[10:40:09] <pcw_home> if you look at the 7I77 and 7I84 manuals they list the legal modes
[10:40:30] <MacGalempsy> to let you guys know, I really do try to read and work through these problems
[10:41:07] <pcw_home> its traditional for man pages to have no examples :-)
[10:41:55] <MacGalempsy> a laymans guide would make the process more open to people like me. maybe that can be my contribution
[10:44:10] <MacGalempsy> well, its way past my bedtime. thank again guys. Have a nice day.
[10:49:52] <JT_Shop> 2 is the expansion port on the 7i7x?
[11:06:42] <pcw_home> Yes with standard 7I77 firmware 0=fieldIO,1=analog and 2=expansion
[11:14:22] <JT_Shop> ok, so it is firmware dependent?
[11:16:23] <pcw_home> Yes, because the order of sserial ports can change but all 7I77 configs (with a 7i77 on P3)are the same
[11:17:27] <JT_Shop> ok thanks
[11:17:41] <pcw_home> Master makes some of this easier because it lists the available modes in dmesg
[11:18:44] <JT_Shop> I can't wait for Master :)
[11:20:40] <pcw_home> it might have been nicer to something like 7i77.0.mode=2 but the config parameters are getting pretty big as it is
[11:20:49] <pcw_home> to have something
[12:05:14] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:05:35] <IchGuckLive> hi hiroshima5 how is it going
[13:23:37] <IchGuckLive> winter is coming this night to germany
[13:26:21] <jdh> move?
[13:27:00] <jdh> but, it is only 16c here.
[13:35:08] <Loetmichel> jdh: ichgucklive is a wimp
[13:35:24] <Loetmichel> its 6,7°c outside here
[13:35:30] <Loetmichel> noting like winter
[13:35:36] <Loetmichel> not even chilly
[13:35:42] <jdh> I am no fan of cold and/or winter.
[13:36:53] <archivist> 4.3 outside 8.1 deg c indoors
[13:37:50] <jdh> what's a bolt bin cart?
[13:37:52] <jdh> <urk>
[13:38:00] <Loetmichel> archivist: that sounds cozy ;-)
[14:32:26] <mrsun_> ough managed to reverse +5V and GND on the breakout board :/
[14:32:45] <Jymmm> how?
[14:32:53] <mrsun_> but .. strangley everything seems to have survived .. but i melted the screw terminal :P
[14:33:03] <mrsun_> connected it wrong? :P
[14:33:13] <mrsun_> not thinking, tired ... etc :P
[14:33:20] <Jymmm> It's two wire, how hard is that?
[14:33:23] <mrsun_> wrong cable colors due to temporary connections :P
[14:33:32] <Jymmm> dumbass
[14:33:49] <mrsun_> Jymmm, managed to connect the whole controller cabinett today without an error ... and then .. connecting the most basic+5V i fail badly :P
[14:34:01] <mrsun_> but like i said .. strangley everything has survived ...
[14:34:03] <Jymmm> see above
[14:34:06] <mrsun_> how i do not know =)
[15:14:56] <maZer> Im trying to get the homing function running. I have shared switches, also for homing and limit
[15:15:29] <maZer> i want that the machine drivers to -x until hit limiter, and then return for 10mm
[15:16:05] <maZer> but my machine is driving always to the limiter, and is not changing direction
[15:24:02] <Tom_itx> maZer, mine is similar:
http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/
[15:24:10] <Tom_itx> in the ini
[15:24:53] <Tom_itx> in the [AXIS_x] sections
[15:25:51] <Tom_itx> actually i'm using soft limits set with the switches
[15:32:41] <WalterN> on the haas, it just told me that M97 is an undefined M code... :-/
[15:33:18] <WalterN> do the older haas stuff not have M97 defined?
[15:33:52] <Tom_itx> possibly
[15:34:06] <Tom_itx> it's not defined in linuxcnc either
[15:35:53] <JT_Shop> once you get past G0-3 it's a crap shoot about what the rest of the codes mean from control to control
[15:36:12] <JT_Shop> and G0-3 can be different as well
[15:36:44] <WalterN> yeah
[15:36:54] <WalterN> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/haas_mills/54371-m97_m98_subroutine_call_use.html
[15:37:00] <WalterN> I mean I'm using it like that
[15:37:20] <WalterN> but when I actually try to run it on the mill it says its an undefined M code
[15:37:33] <WalterN> (on the haas mill I have)
[15:40:09] <JT_Shop> yours may not have all the options
[15:40:32] <JT_Shop> for example spindle control on my Anilam was $1000 extra when they came out
[15:43:15] <WalterN> I kind of dislike closed source stuff
[15:43:38] <WalterN> time to break this up into several different programs I guess
[15:45:49] <maZer> big thanks Tom_itx
[15:46:03] <kengu> um. plasma is about ready
[15:46:11] <kengu> now i can go home I think.
[15:49:23] <maZer> Tom_itx does i understand it right, if i have home_search_vel is negative i should set home_latch_vel to positive?
[15:50:41] <andypugh> maZer: That depends if you want a slow move off the switch, or a fast move off the switch and a slow move back on to it.
[15:52:22] <maZer> andypugh no i have heidenhain encoders, i want that the machine drives to the limit point, and then back until the encoder index
[15:53:03] <maZer> i dont want that he drivers over the limit switch, just a small touch and then back :d
[15:53:09] <maZer> until index
[15:54:02] <andypugh> OK, the you need the latch to be the opposite sign. You also need HOME_USE_INDEX in the INI and to have net-ed index-enable in the hal.
[15:54:42] <maZer> ok big thanks
[15:57:12] <maZer> andypugh i did home_search_vel -5.0 and home_latch_vel 0.5
[15:57:37] <maZer> and the machine drivers over the limit switch and drives forward to emergency stop :(
[15:58:03] <maZer> did i done something wrong in the hal with min-home-x ?
[15:58:17] <maZer> Also i use the min-home-x switch for this
[15:58:33] <andypugh> maybe. min-home-x isn't anything LinuxCNC knows anything about.
[15:59:01] <andypugh> That is a signal name, and has no special meaning
[15:59:55] <andypugh> Is anything connected to axis.0.home-sw-in ? That's the important HAL pin. (If I recall the name correctly)
[16:00:19] <maZer> mom
[16:00:47] <maZer> yes
[16:00:57] <maZer> net max-home-x axis.0.home-sw-in
[16:01:17] <maZer> net min-home-x axis.0.neg-lim-sw-in
[16:01:33] <andypugh> and is there also a net max-home-x parport.0.some-pin-or-other ?
[16:02:02] <andypugh> (Or whatever IO line the limit switch is on)
[16:02:23] <maZer> yes is connected
[16:02:56] <maZer> should i use home_ignore_limits?
[16:05:00] <andypugh> Yes, if the limit switch IO pin is also the home pin.
[16:06:29] <maZer> oh yes that was it! :D
[16:21:24] <ju-emb> somebody here, that has an idea how to do a loop until a signal changes?
[16:21:45] <ju-emb> what I try to do is following:
[16:22:31] <ju-emb> I have g-code that starts and set's the Temperature
[16:22:59] <ju-emb> now I have to wait til Temperature reaches the value
[16:24:01] <alosindustrials> hi
[16:24:06] <JT_Shop> why not use classicladder to control your heater?
[16:24:41] <cradek> perhaps spindle-at-speed
[16:24:52] <cradek> spindle speed is a lot like temperature
[16:25:25] <JT_Shop> hmmm, never thought about it that way
[16:25:52] <ju-emb> is spindle-at-speed a component?
[16:27:32] <JesusAlos> I have a PCI-E to LPT card
[16:28:14] <JesusAlos> and no conect it with devices and the pin 11 is ever 1
[16:28:18] <JesusAlos> http://imagebin.org/277932
[16:29:21] <JesusAlos> and if take out the PCIE card, the pin 11 still 1
[16:30:51] <_DJ_> gn8
[16:30:58] <andypugh> Pin 11 is hardware-inverted. Linuxcnc un-inverts it
[16:31:51] <JesusAlos> why onboard 0x378 no is inverted?
[16:33:38] <JesusAlos> ok. go to restart to plug in my card again
[16:33:51] <andypugh> Because there really is an input there, so the hardware value is 1, and shown by LinuxCNC as zero
[16:40:40] <JesusAlos> don't know why, but my new PCIE card don't work
[16:40:44] <JesusAlos> http://imagebin.org/277936
[16:42:00] <andypugh> Try cat/proc/ioports
[16:43:27] <JesusAlos> andypugh: Sorry don't understand
[16:43:59] <andypugh> type cat /proc/ioports
[16:46:48] <JesusAlos> http://imagebin.org/277937
[16:47:44] <andypugh> You can pastebin plain text :-)
[16:48:09] <JesusAlos> ok
[16:48:20] <andypugh> It's OK, I git it
[16:49:21] <andypugh> You can see parport0 at 0x378, but not the other one.
[16:49:38] <andypugh> When you say PCI-E what do you mean?
[16:49:53] <JesusAlos> pci express
[16:50:32] <andypugh> Not mini PCI Express?
[16:51:14] <JesusAlos> http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/m3mFOpmBhEYz_CqFhBlpwPg.jpg
[16:51:39] <andypugh> Hmm, that looks like it ought to work.
[16:52:15] <andypugh> If it physically fits then it should be the right voltage and speed.
[16:54:44] <ju-emb> JesusAlos : give me a lspci -v
[16:55:00] <ju-emb> with your card pugged in
[16:56:13] <JesusAlos> http://pastebin.com/hzs0uUb9
[16:57:08] <JesusAlos> is serial controller 1c00
[17:01:39] <JesusAlos> must configure voltage and speed in bios?
[17:02:31] <JesusAlos> why detect PCI card but not like parport?
[17:03:42] <ju-emb> because the paraports on that cards doesn't show up like real parports, uou need a driver for that
[17:05:49] <ju-emb> some where in the docu I read that you have to load some other driver before the parport
[17:06:19] <ju-emb> I talk about lcnc hal documentation
[17:09:46] <andypugh> A PCI card should be a "real" parport
[17:10:46] <kwallace2> What about dmesg?
[17:10:47] <andypugh> I wonder why is is claiming to be a Serial controller?
[17:10:54] <ju-emb> after you loaded the driver yes, but before that she doesn't have an defined I/O Address
[17:11:49] <andypugh> Anyway, if that is the card, I think you need to try io addresses e100 and e000
[17:11:58] <ju-emb> sorry I/O she has, but no memory location like a parport
[17:12:19] <andypugh> 1c00 is the PCI address, not the IO port.
[17:14:26] <JesusAlos> The PCI-E card have one LPT port and two RS232 ports
[17:14:50] <JesusAlos> I think the directions is 1c00,e000 and e100 respectivy
[17:14:51] <kwallace2> I think it is a single serial port card with a DB25 connector.
[17:14:52] <JesusAlos> no?
[17:15:26] <andypugh> In the proc/ioports listing earlier you can see that the r8169 ethernet port has an address listed as d000 in the same format as the prport has 0378.
[17:16:02] <ju-emb> did we try dmesg | grep parport
[17:16:08] <andypugh> Then in the lspci the ethernet IO is also shown as d000 under I/O port
[17:17:59] <JesusAlos> http://pastebin.com/a8xF6Nw6
[17:18:43] <kwallace2> That's the motherboard port.
[17:18:49] <kwallace2> at 378
[17:18:58] <JesusAlos> yes, onboard
[17:19:09] <ju-emb> yes, so your PCI-e is not recognized
[17:19:19] <andypugh> Have you tried e100 and e000 with the parport tester?
[17:19:31] <JesusAlos> go now
[17:19:50] <JesusAlos> go to try
[17:20:53] <kwallace2> Just look at the traces on the DB25. If it looks like close to half the pins go to ground, it is a parallel port, otherwise it is a serial port.
[17:21:48] <andypugh> I am pretty sure it is this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190974251472?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_InterfaceCards&hash=item2c76f3d1d0
[17:24:08] <JesusAlos> is this
http://approx.es/Communications/Conectividad/APPPCIE1P2S#.UovvWtdVLaA
[17:27:32] <ju-emb> Docu of that card say's it runs on Linux, so you may try to reset your PCI configuration in the BIOS
[17:28:04] <JesusAlos> Go to bios
[17:34:57] <JesusAlos> don't see anything in the bios
[17:35:18] <JesusAlos> don't run the direction e000, e100
[17:36:01] <ju-emb> dmesg | grep parport
[17:36:55] <JesusAlos> I donwnload the drivers
[17:36:57] <JesusAlos> http://pastebin.com/z9Natw6d
[17:37:36] <ju-emb> there is just the on from Motherboard
[17:38:32] <JesusAlos> http://www.msi.com/product/mb/H61M-P20--G3-.html
[17:38:35] <JesusAlos> yes
[17:38:47] <JesusAlos> but don't have bracket
[17:40:45] <ju-emb> do you mean there is only the header connector on the MoBo
[17:41:24] <JesusAlos> yes
[17:42:01] <ju-emb> Do you start that MoBo with EFI ?
[17:43:07] <JesusAlos> EFI? in bios configurationsay?
[17:46:51] <ju-emb> That MoBo has two modes to boot it.
[17:46:53] <ju-emb> one is BIOS other is UEFI
[17:46:55] <ju-emb> You have to start it in BIOS Mode to run Linuxcnc,
[17:46:57] <ju-emb> but there are some special features in such boards that needs to be activated in order to get the real BIOS behavior
[17:54:16] <JesusAlos> the computer can't start in UEFI mode
[17:55:02] <JesusAlos> tomorow I buy a bracket LPT
[17:55:19] <JesusAlos> and put in trash PCI-E card
[17:55:23] <JesusAlos> :)
[17:56:20] <ju-emb> sure because you doesn't have your harddisk configured for that,
[17:56:22] <ju-emb> but there are still some points in the bios you need to activate to make your board work in real bios mode
[17:57:00] <andypugh> JesusAlos: A 6i25 will fit nicely in that slot...
[17:57:21] <JesusAlos> from mesa?
[17:57:38] <Tom_itx> jep
[18:00:58] <JesusAlos> but 109$
[18:03:01] <JesusAlos> ok. is possible the better way
[18:03:29] <JesusAlos> I'm off
[18:03:32] <JesusAlos> gn
[18:03:42] <JesusAlos> thank you all
[18:09:29] <maZer> hi all :)
[18:11:37] <maZer> i have a last problem with the homing. My machine is moving to the limit switch and waiting until the limit switch is released. Is there a way to disable that? Also that the machine is not overshooting the limit switch?`
[18:40:39] <alex_joni> maZer: you can specify that using home_search_vel and home_latch_vel
[18:40:54] <alex_joni> check the documentation, it's pretty well described
[18:51:28] <andypugh> What is the latch velocity?
[18:53:52] <MacGalempsy> evening
[23:59:18] <RyanS> This would work okay on a drill :p
http://www.electricmotorrepairs.com.au/gallery/1_a.jpg?rand=994442776
