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[01:46:03] <JesusAlos> hi all
[01:47:16] <JesusAlos> the problem with 7i77 and 5i25 has begen
[01:48:00] <JesusAlos> http://pastebin.com/AgKYhSy0
[01:48:04] <JesusAlos> is the error
[01:48:37] <JesusAlos> seems like don't are comunication with 5i25. But don't know why
[02:21:41] <JesusAlos> I disconnect
[02:28:14] <archivist_> Loetmichel, fleabay 331025294024
[03:20:02] <Loetmichel> archivist_: harhar, a bit old
[03:20:43] <archivist_> I saw it on the classiccmp mailing list where the collectors are
[03:21:18] <Loetmichel> we have similar stuff in our demo room. just a bit more modern
[03:21:22] <Loetmichel> :-)
[03:22:00] <archivist_> it looks to me that it was a physical case rather than fully RF
[03:48:08] <Loetmichel> archivist_: our modern equivalent:
http://cordsen.com/index.php/rugged/workstation/56-rugged/workstation-rugged/136-ce-7150
[04:28:56] <archivist_> Loetmichel, not ugly enough :)
[07:01:54] <ktchk> Hi I got 2 Galil E670 servo motor, cannot get specification on the net. Any comment to made it work with MASA board, which?
[07:27:34] <ktchk> Hi I got 2 Galil E670 servo motor, cannot get specification on the net. Any comment to made it work with MESA board, which?
[07:28:41] <archivist_> you said that already
[07:30:42] <Loetmichel> archivist_: but heavy enough ;-)
[07:31:54] <Loetmichel> ... re from shoving wife+ wheelchair through the mall, btw ;-)
[07:54:46] <Loetmichel> archivist_: the frame of the TFt from the workstation is made(milled) of a 20mm thick Aluminium 7075 sheet
[07:55:28] <Loetmichel> the rest of the Casing of the workstation is made of 3mm thick aluminium sheet, welded trhroughly on all corners ;-)
[07:55:37] <archivist_> I want some of that to make new parts for the mill :)
[07:55:59] <archivist_> is that the machined sides ally?
[07:56:36] <Loetmichel> that is the "space" aluminium with nearly the strengh of steel
[07:59:36] <archivist_> I want to get ecocast
http://www.aluminiumwarehouse.co.uk/cutting_calc.php
[07:59:37] <Loetmichel> i tend to use a bit much screws on my casing designs for the company...
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14184&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
[08:00:37] <archivist_> hmm slot antennas in the door folding
[08:01:06] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14412 <- a "thin client" in a 24" TFT
[08:01:44] <Loetmichel> the slot anennas are shielded with shome HF gaskets ;-)
[08:02:19] <Loetmichel> from the inside
[08:31:12] <archivist_> one steel wheel rim wire brushed and painted :)
[08:34:25] <Loetmichel> archivist_: 3 to go?
[08:34:26] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[08:52:47] <archivist_> I have 2 with rusty rim syndrome on the car needing pumping up every two days, so getting a spare ready to swap in
[08:53:29] <JT-Shop> I got a can of tubeless bead sealer for my leakers
[08:53:58] <ktchk> Hi I got 2 Galil E670 servo motor, cannot get specification on the net. Any comment to made it work with MESA board, which?
[08:56:13] <micges> ktchk: any pics?
[08:56:25] <ktchk> later
[09:00:54] <micges> ktchk: seems that it will be bldc motor
[09:01:08] <ktchk> No it is a DC motor
[09:01:37] <ktchk> with sensor at the end glass
[09:01:50] <jdh> does it have brushes?
[09:01:59] <ktchk> Yes
[09:02:41] <ktchk> It was made in 78 and the serial nimber is 64
[09:02:47] <ktchk> number
[09:10:42] <jdh> looks like they are Reliance/electro-craft
[09:18:35] <skunkworks> galil mostly rebrands drives and servos
[09:18:49] <skunkworks> we have some galil servo drive here that are actually AMC
[09:19:27] <skunkworks> and have been replaced with such
[09:22:06] <ktchk> I ask galil about the motor
[09:22:21] <ktchk> no replay yet
[09:22:58] <ktchk> the control board is isa bus
[09:27:15] <skunkworks> you will not be able to use the isa board
[09:27:57] <ktchk> not complete unit I have only parts of it
[09:28:29] <ktchk> mostly mechanical
[09:36:45] <CaptHindsight> If I had time I could build one but does anyone of similar amplifiers to these?
http://www.accelinstruments.com/Products/TS200/TS200-Description.html
[09:36:57] <CaptHindsight> ~$850 ea
[09:38:46] <CaptHindsight> I only need 12-20VDC at up to 6A with a slew rate <1uS
[09:41:51] <jdh> we have galil labeled AMC drives also
[09:42:08] <archivist_> CaptHindsight, HP/agilent made them too
[09:42:10] <jdh> and the same drives saying reliance/electro-craft
[09:43:23] <archivist_> CaptHindsight, 6825A Bipolar Power Supply/Amplifier is the model I have, old though
[09:43:31] <CaptHindsight> they can go by several names, pulse amplifier, modulated power supply etc
[09:44:35] <ktchk> The sensor is connected with flat cable
[09:45:02] <archivist_> I used a pair to drive a transformer to get me variable frequency mains to test a printer once
[09:53:41] <CaptHindsight> archivist_: yes, similar and at bargain prices now, but unfortunately too slow
[09:53:48] <pcw_home> CaptHindsight: look slike just a power OP-amp
[09:53:57] <pcw_home> LM675 etc
[09:54:50] <pcw_home> 8V /us +-30V 3A
[09:55:09] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: yeah, I can't find a fast high current opamp module/board
[09:55:39] <pcw_home> cant be more that about 8 parts
[09:56:02] <CaptHindsight> I need a faster slew as well >10V/us
[09:56:22] <CaptHindsight> there are some Burr-Brown as well
[09:56:37] <archivist_> look for power video amplifiers
[09:56:45] <CaptHindsight> yeah, but I'd like it this week
[10:09:54] <CaptHindsight> video amps will have the speed but not the drive current of 5A
[10:12:55] <archivist_> there were some power ones, they call them video just because of the speed not the use
[10:19:12] <CaptHindsight> simple enough to build, but i wish I had the time
[10:22:43] <archivist_> I have the testing and the time I suppose, but no spare pennies to just make something
[10:22:57] <CaptHindsight> the amp section of a servo amp could have the power but unlikely the speed
[10:23:08] <CaptHindsight> those are easy to come by and hack
[10:23:45] <archivist_> what peak frequency
[10:25:45] <CaptHindsight> pulse intervals are 30kHz max, 20Vp-p (DC 0-20) with a 2uS slew max over the p-p
[10:26:46] <CaptHindsight> 5A, 20V square wave driver/amp
[10:27:05] <archivist_> hmm the amp in my pulse could almost handle that
[10:27:21] <archivist_> pulse generator
[10:27:26] <CaptHindsight> yeah, the HP gets close
[10:27:57] <archivist_> top left
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2013/2013_08_14_Lounge_Electronics_bench/IMG_1642.JPG
[10:28:31] <pcw_home> http://www.powerampdesign.net/poweropamps.html
[10:30:30] <CaptHindsight> pcw_home: nice find, thanks
[10:33:53] <Tom_itx> archivist_, too much test equipment, no room to work :D
[10:34:37] <archivist_> :)
[10:35:07] <archivist_> Tom_itx, no work for it anyway :(
[10:51:30] <CaptHindsight> http://www.powerampdesign.net/poweropamps/compactmodels.html in stock and <$200 ea
[10:56:31] <JesusAlos> http://pastebin.com/xTyxFD4V
[10:56:45] <JesusAlos> is my problem with 5i25 and 7i77
[10:57:25] <pcw_home> That means the sysem did not find the 5I25 card
[10:58:26] <pcw_home> I would first try cleaning the PCI slot and 5i25 fingers with IPA
[10:58:28] <skunkworks> unplug and replug? dirty pci?
[10:59:20] <pcw_home> That's the most common cause of sometimes there sometimes not there PCI
[11:00:12] <pcw_home> also you may see this if the PC's 3.3V is marginal (the 5i25 wont come out of reset unless the 3.3V is > 3V)
[11:02:21] <pcw_home> I use a piece of cardstock dipped in IPA to clean the slot
[11:02:22] <pcw_home> (make sure the IPA is evaporated/dissipated before
[11:02:24] <pcw_home> cycling the power unless you like flaming PC's)
[11:02:34] <JesusAlos> pcw_home: whais is IPA?
[11:03:05] <Loetmichel> pcw_home: hrhr
[11:03:15] <Loetmichel> IPA ignioting oin a PCI-slot?
[11:03:20] <pcw_home> Isopropyl Alcohol
[11:03:26] <JesusAlos> ok
[11:03:28] <Loetmichel> i think THAT is an urban legend
[11:03:46] <JesusAlos> I already do it this morning (in Europe)
[11:03:50] <Loetmichel> i use it to clean brushed motors RUNNING...
[11:03:51] <pcw_home> the vapors are fairly flammable
[11:03:58] <JesusAlos> for the moment run ok
[11:04:01] <Loetmichel> with a pump spray ;-)
[11:04:08] <pcw_home> It _can_ catch on fire
[11:04:08] <Loetmichel> never had a "Fump"
[11:04:18] <Loetmichel> it can, and it will
[11:04:34] <JesusAlos> is possible the PCI card broken?
[11:04:36] <Loetmichel> when exposed to a sufficient igniting source
[11:05:02] <Loetmichel> but that igniting source has to be surprisiungly powerful
[11:05:11] <Loetmichel> like a burning lighter or something
[11:05:12] <pcw_home> no but sparks from switching the power supply could ignate the vapors
[11:05:53] <Loetmichel> pcw_home: right. with what possibility?
[11:06:00] <Loetmichel> 1:1e10?
[11:06:01] <pcw_home> flashpoint = 11.7 C
[11:06:15] <pcw_home> not worth the risk
[11:06:21] <Loetmichel> ok
[11:06:40] <Loetmichel> but not worth the scare off either
[11:07:29] <Loetmichel> what i meant was IPA is flammable, but it is not really a "hollywood car" that ignites every time a spark is anywhere in a 100m radius.
[11:08:09] <pcw_home> OK you go and advise people to use flammable solvents near sparks, I wont
[11:08:51] <Loetmichel> and the usual amounts needed to clean a pci slot will cause a little "woosh" and some curled hand hair at worst.
[11:09:20] <Loetmichel> the whole 1 liter bottle poured over the PC and switched on is a whole different ballpark, though
[11:09:25] <jdh> do people have this problem often (dirty pci slots)?
[11:09:37] <pcw_home> Yes
[11:09:38] <Loetmichel> jdh: i have sometimes.
[11:10:21] <pcw_home> especially if the slot was unused and collected dust+grease for who knows how long
[11:10:29] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=735 <- old PC for the MINImill
[11:10:41] <Loetmichel> ... standing open beneath it ;-)
[11:11:23] <jdh> I've had some Q-Bus cards that got better with cleaning, but never ISA/EISA/MCA/PCI/etc.
[11:11:32] <Loetmichel> ... that "white" stuff is aluminium shards
[11:11:58] <pcw_home> Yep and you have to clean the PCI card contact fingers as well since they can be contaminated by a dirty slot
[11:28:11] <t12> IPA doesnt burn that hot
[11:28:34] <t12> you can pour 70% ipa on your arm, light it on fire, and as long as you keep it moving and for not that long you just burn hair off
[11:29:20] <t12> ie:
http://ishiboo.com/~danny/Pyroball/sf-8-2000/
[11:29:30] <t12> thats mroe with stuff soaked in it
[11:35:28] <pcw_home> Yeah but this is 99% IPA and I _have_ been burned by it
[11:36:39] <MacGalempsy> Loetmichel: is that line an official fix?
[11:36:48] <MacGalempsy> line = link
[11:37:23] <Loetmichel> MacGalempsy: hmm?
[11:37:31] <Loetmichel> which link?
[11:38:13] <MacGalempsy> I am talking about the the cyrom link where the wires are crammed in the clip
[11:38:26] <Loetmichel> t12: i have 99,9 ipa here... in some 5 liters cans...
[11:39:22] <Loetmichel> MacGalempsy; hrhr, taht was the power for this lamp:
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=179
[11:40:06] <Loetmichel> on the right of the proxxon spindle
[11:40:22] <Loetmichel> was to lazy to get a crimp tool and a molex
[11:40:35] <MacGalempsy> Loetmichel: what medium do you work in the most?
[11:40:59] <Loetmichel> t12: ipa burns relatively cool.. but long...
[11:41:02] <Loetmichel> medium?
[11:41:46] <Loetmichel> MacGalempsy: did you mean: what stuff do i mill?
[11:41:52] <MacGalempsy> yes
[11:42:06] <MacGalempsy> wood metal plastic?
[11:42:18] <Loetmichel> aluminium for the most part, some plastics, some Carbon fibre , some glass fibre, some plywood
[11:42:37] <MacGalempsy> do you run a 4th axis kit?
[11:43:12] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=13570 <- plexiglass "sometimes" ;-)
[11:43:29] <Loetmichel> at hte company : yes at home: not yet
[11:44:03] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=13564 <- some acrylic millining ;-)
[11:45:33] <Loetmichel> but i DO aluminium also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o53RsosYwGg
[11:45:33] <Tecan> (o53RsosYwGg) "Fraesen gilera scheinwerfer 1" by "Loetmichel" is "People" - Length: 0:00:25
[11:46:18] <MacGalempsy> do you think that if someone has picked up 3d printing, that taking the step to the mill should be easier?
[11:46:42] <archivist_> MacGalempsy, warning once you have a 4th....you want a 5th
[11:46:52] <MacGalempsy> heh
[11:47:14] <MacGalempsy> i am alread at that point, but still trying to figure out a machine that is big enough
[11:47:16] <DaViruz> Loetmichel: you make model aircraft lighting systems?
[11:47:26] <MacGalempsy> there is one from bolton tools that looks interesting
[11:47:30] <Loetmichel> DaViruz: i made. some time ago
[11:47:38] <DaViruz> oh.
[11:49:58] <MacGalempsy> Loetmichel: any thoughts on this machine?
http://www.boltonhardware.com/category/bolton-tools/metal-lathes-wood-lathes-milling-machines/cnc-lathes-cnc-milling-machines-cnc-machine-center/4-axis-cnc-milling-machine.php
[11:51:00] <Loetmichel> MacGalempsy: looks a bit expensive from here
[11:51:28] <MacGalempsy> part of the requirement is to be able to mill steel
[11:51:56] <Loetmichel> for some lunps of chinese "steel" and a bit of electronics
[11:52:43] <MacGalempsy> i guess it depends on the squareness of the table
[11:52:52] <MacGalempsy> and mast
[11:53:04] <archivist_> and how well set up
[11:54:55] <MacGalempsy> the sales guy is supposed to call me back with some more specs that arent listed on their site. the one review of a cnc lathe they sell said the machine was a lot better than they expected for the price
[11:55:28] <archivist_> and the last review I found...was not so good
[11:55:41] <MacGalempsy> really? link?
[11:57:21] <tjtr33> JesusAlos, clean the pci card connector (not socket) with rubber eraser. any black on eraser was oxidation.
[11:57:28] <archivist_> last review
https://plus.google.com/113020645198969951049/about?gl=uk&hl=en#113020645198969951049/about?gl=uk&hl=en
[11:57:41] <MacGalempsy> thanks, I will read
[11:58:27] <archivist_> sorry not last see the one from Mitch Anderson
[11:58:35] <pcw_home> I would suggest NOT using an eraser or anything abrasive and using 99% IPA instead
[11:59:07] <tjtr33> ? ok, 'works for me' . is the plating that thin?
[11:59:51] <Loetmichel> tjtr33: i HAVE used a rubber ereaser on a edge card and managed to get the complete Gold off
[11:59:52] <CaptHindsight> there is also a risk of ESD damaging the CMOS devices with the eraser
[11:59:55] <archivist_> I use nothing more than paper soaked in ipa
[11:59:57] <MacGalempsy> archivist_: the only true review of their product on that page was of a lathe and that was good
[12:00:26] <archivist_> MacGalempsy, be careful of "planted" reviews
[12:00:48] <JesusAlos> you refer "rubber eraser" to use for erase pencil?
[12:00:54] <archivist_> too good to be believed....done by the seller
[12:01:01] <Loetmichel> yes
[12:01:06] <MacGalempsy> there was a longer writeup by a guy with a small machine shop. the bolton machines seem to fill a gap, anyways, that guys was impressed with all the features and the accuracy of the machine
[12:01:07] <Loetmichel> the red/blue ones
[12:01:15] <jdh> pink pearl erasers
[12:01:27] <tjtr33> JesusAlos, i've doen it a lot for many years, but the advise here is dont ( and yes , the other end of a pencil)
[12:01:45] <tjtr33> very soft
[12:02:02] <archivist_> MacGalempsy, but that person who went there is speaking of a place just with boxes and no testing by the look of it
[12:02:06] <Loetmichel> tjb1: i think it depends on the kind of ereaser
[12:02:20] <tjtr33> brown end of pencil tjtr33
[12:02:30] <MacGalempsy> that guy did not have a chance to review the product because it was still in the box
[12:02:59] <Loetmichel> this kind tends to rub off the gold as well als the oxides:
http://www.bueromarkt-ag.de/radiergummi_laeufer_universal-0440,p-0440.html
[12:03:04] <archivist_> exactly my point they do not open
[12:03:19] <JesusAlos> ah
[12:03:20] <JesusAlos> ok
[12:03:24] <MacGalempsy> anyways, I will listen to their sales pitch and see what he has to say. the mast height seemed to be big enough to use a 5th axis
[12:03:25] <JesusAlos> is abrasive
[12:03:27] <JesusAlos> I never lisen it.
[12:04:00] <JesusAlos> in this case the PC have only 9 month. Don't think the oxidation do his job
[12:04:34] <JesusAlos> maybe with Alcohol is enough
[12:04:58] <archivist_> is the pc mounted on the machine and does it vibrate
[12:05:00] <tjtr33> try white printer paper soaked in IPA, any black on paper afterwards is oxidation
[12:05:02] <Loetmichel> JesusAlos: i would think so, too
[12:05:20] <Loetmichel> especially when the developer of the board suggests it
[12:05:44] <archivist_> tjtr33, method I use too
[12:06:19] <tjtr33> used to use US dollar bills, the rag content was slightly abrasive, great on 'german silver' relay contacts
[12:06:34] <tjtr33> new bills no good, plastic money
[12:06:39] <archivist_> also plugin board and remove a few times, with modern thin plating once or twice only
[12:06:52] <Loetmichel> tjtr33: really?
[12:07:06] <tjtr33> yep, saved a lot of old AGies that way
[12:07:25] <Loetmichel> <- "WIIIFE, pleas give me some of the dollar bills you have from your last trip to usa..."
[12:07:37] <tjtr33> OLD bills only
[12:07:39] <JesusAlos> Loetmichel: developer are you?
[12:09:28] <pcw_home> Our cards have 30 uInch gold but the sockets may only be gold flash
[12:09:29] <pcw_home> any grime/ dark markings on contact fingers suggest contamination/oxidation
[12:10:33] <MacGalempsy> archivist_: who cares if it is opened, when they are shipping the product 1800miles away? as long as the specs are good and the machine is true,
[12:12:43] <pcw_home> Also check the PCs 3.3V. Low 3.3V can also cause this problem (5I25 is held reset if 3.3V is too low)
[12:13:03] <pcw_home> must be > 3V
[12:13:59] <Loetmichel> JesusAlos: no, why?
[12:14:22] <Loetmichel> pcw_home is (one of) the developers of the Mesa cards
[12:14:30] <JesusAlos> I supply 7i77 with 5i25
[12:14:33] <JesusAlos> so 5V
[12:14:40] <JesusAlos> yes?
[12:14:43] <Loetmichel> so he's ought to know what they like and what not
[12:15:30] <Loetmichel> tjtr33: just "feeled" the bills: oldest one was 2003 series
[12:15:39] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:15:41] <Loetmichel> newest 2009
[12:15:43] <JesusAlos> Loetmichel: unknown this information
[12:15:46] <JesusAlos> he
[12:15:47] <JesusAlos> hi
[12:16:20] <IchGuckLive> JesusAlos: you dident wrote back so i guess everything is runing well
[12:16:25] <Loetmichel> seems to be all the same but wife says she had some really old bills in her fingers that were noticeable more like cotton than the newer ones
[12:16:33] <Loetmichel> so you might bne right ;-)
[12:16:53] <Loetmichel> JesusAlos: as far as i know he is
[12:17:25] <tjtr33> Loetmichel, 'like cotton' is old bill with ground up US flags ( rag content) ... those are good
[12:18:39] <Loetmichel> tjtr33: as i am german i hav these dreaded "euro money" in my pocket
[12:18:58] <Loetmichel> ... they just chenged the 5 eur bill to a new desing
[12:19:17] <Loetmichel> ... lokks and feels even more like monopoly money than the old one...
[12:19:18] <tjtr33> already copied ?
[12:19:30] <Loetmichel> to much, yeah
[12:19:31] <archivist_> we still have paper pounds but plastic £5 were in the news a few days ago
[12:20:32] <tjtr33> maybe e-money is the way, counterfeiters are clever and definitely are driven
[12:24:05] <JesusAlos> IchGuckLive: yes all well by the moment with 5 axis
[12:24:41] <JesusAlos> Start the bloblems again when check in phisical machine :)
[12:24:53] <JesusAlos> bloblems=problems
[12:24:57] <JesusAlos> sorry
[12:25:52] <JesusAlos> I don't have a lott time lately for connect
[12:26:05] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[12:26:43] <JesusAlos> now I'm going to run up the mountain
[12:26:55] <JesusAlos> I hope it does not rain
[12:30:00] <JesusAlos> see you
[13:04:21] <Jymmm> Stained and etched concrete -
http://strattonexteriors.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/etched-concrete.jpg
[13:08:30] <kwallace2> That's purdy.
[13:09:03] <Jymmm> I thought so too, found their PORTFOLIO
http://s162.photobucket.com/user/jennrachidi/library/Artisticrete?sort=3&page=1
[13:09:18] <Jymmm> err his
[13:11:23] <CaptHindsight> looks like somebody used a Phaser to cut those outlines in the concrete
[13:13:49] <CaptHindsight> Jymmm: do they use a grinder?
[13:14:00] <kwallace2> I was thinking a stencil of plasma sheet metal with sand blasting might work.
[13:14:15] <Jymmm> CaptHindsight: you know as much as I do
[13:14:16] <kwallace2> plasma cut
[13:14:23] <Tom_itx> damn i bet that's slick when it's wet
[13:14:33] <archivist_> methinks getting some tiles fitted would be cheaper
[13:14:38] <CaptHindsight> looks slippery doesn't it
[13:16:00] <kwallace2> Maybe put a little sand in the sealer? It gets one to thinking. ... Now, I want to try it.
[13:16:16] <Tom_itx> i saw someone's basement done similar
[13:17:28] <Tom_itx> might make a cool pool bottom
[13:18:02] <kwallace2> LinuxCNC could be used to make a concrete slab printer.
[13:19:15] <CaptHindsight> angle grinder with a guide/template
[13:21:47] <CaptHindsight> need a higher res photo to see how it was formed
[13:22:04] <Jymmm> O_o
[13:23:20] <tjtr33> hammered & swore at plaster
http://imagebin.org/271821 not pretty
http://imagebin.org/271822
[13:23:20] <IchGuckLive> simple wood shape and a FLEX
[13:24:05] <IchGuckLive> tjtr33: YES
[13:24:37] <IchGuckLive> i did this last week only wanted to replace 4 tiles but if i grindet 1 out the hole wall fell of 3 left in place O.O
[13:25:36] <tjtr33> yep, thats plaster & lath, cant touch it a little, gotta remove it all
[13:26:46] <skunkworks> tjtr33, that looks farmiliar... but ours hous must have been at the transision between lath/plaster and sheet rock. It has 16" wide horizontal strips of sheetrock like stuff - and then the normal layer of plaster and corner wire.
[13:27:54] <tjtr33> well i got expanded metal in corner radius (everything was rounded)
[13:29:00] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/271823 take a look at these two spots
[13:30:18] <tat> has anyone had experience with this router ?
http://www.cnc-modellbau.net/shop/product_info.php?pName=probasic-h-0605-v45mms-bausatz&cName=cncmaschinen-probasic-0605
[13:30:25] <tjtr33> theres a book from a guy in taiwan who does concrete countertops, lotsa hints, he embeds brass bits and nautilus shells and grinds thru 'em
[13:30:37] <tat> i mean runnning it with emc2
[13:31:37] <archivist_> I get a wsod on that site
[13:32:25] <CaptHindsight> tjtr33: did end up ripping it all out?
[13:32:36] <tjtr33> tat i get blank page on ffox
[13:32:50] <tjtr33> CaptHindsight, all out, that foto is 20 min old
[13:32:54] <archivist_> that is a php error on the site
[13:34:16] <kengu> empty
[13:34:37] <tat> http://www.cnc-modellbau.net/shop/index.php?cName=cncmaschinen-probasic-0605
[13:34:42] <tjtr33> this i could drill down to
http://www.cnc-modellbau.net/html/cnc-maschinen.html
[13:35:22] <tat> sorry, but it is not my page
[13:35:29] <kengu> hum. i need one of those. i am pretty sure
[13:35:30] <archivist_> we realise
[13:35:47] <tjtr33> tata i got the last url you posted to work, but i dont know the machine
[13:36:10] <tat> they say it runs with WinPC-NC light
[13:38:18] <tjtr33> we dont know about that control software
[13:38:22] <tjtr33> (I)
[14:11:57] <joebog> morning all
[14:12:19] <joebog> I have some god news :) my engraver works wheeee
[14:12:52] <joebog> BUT one little problem :( the linuxcnc logo prints upside down :(
[14:13:10] <joebog> its flipped in the Y axis
[14:13:12] <andypugh> Invert the Y axis
[14:13:26] <Jymmm> joebog: Turn your machine upsde down, then it will engrave correctly =)
[14:13:46] <andypugh> (simplest way is to invert the Y stepper direction pin in stepconf)
[14:14:26] <jdh> add a - to the scale
[14:14:36] <joebog> OK :) where is that acheived ?
[14:16:40] <joebog> now I have to add the 4th axis
[14:21:09] <MacGalempsy> joebog: what mill do you use?
[14:22:23] <joebog> its actually an engraving machine
[14:23:19] <joebog> and for the life of me I cant remember the name
[14:23:58] <joebog> made in england 30 years ago
[14:24:18] <joebog> was fitted with a Cipher ( australian made ) windowz setup
[14:28:48] <joebog> two names something or other Hall
[14:31:41] <MacGalempsy> does it use ballscrews?
[14:33:16] <joebog> yes
[14:33:22] <joebog> on all three axis
[14:34:16] <joebog> the 4th axix will be an indexing head
[14:34:28] <joebog> it has a planetary drive system
[14:34:51] <joebog> Im working on that today, plus I will have another 30 or 40 photos to post
[14:35:33] <joebog> the machine is going to be used to make small gun parts and engrave scrollwork etc on guns
[14:39:01] <jdh> make me a BCG
[14:39:10] <jdh> it's small, relatively.
[14:39:43] <joebog> BCG ???
[14:40:10] <kengu> boston consulting group.. might be something else here
[14:40:52] <jdh> http://www.harristacticalonline.com/images/1232734557238692834767.jpg
[14:41:04] <jdh> you said small gun parts.
[14:41:47] <joebog> :) he already makes them its a silencer isnt it ?
[14:41:55] <joebog> HIGHLY illegle in aus
[14:42:05] <joebog> as are all guns
[14:42:25] <joebog> evn a starting pistol requires a licence
[14:42:33] <joebog> or a air rifle
[14:43:36] <Jymmm> joebog: liek airsoft? or pellet?
[14:43:44] <joebog> yup
[14:43:48] <joebog> illegle
[14:43:53] <Jymmm> Eeees
[14:43:57] <Jymmm> h
[14:44:04] <Jymmm> what about slingshot?
[14:44:14] <Jymmm> corssbow?
[14:44:19] <Jymmm> bow and arrow?
[14:44:25] <Jymmm> rocks?
[14:44:25] <joebog> ya have to get cop and asio clearance, ya have to be inna gun club, ya guns are stored in a safe NOT at your place
[14:44:26] <kengu> boomerang
[14:44:27] <Jymmm> sticks?
[14:44:53] <joebog> ya must attend 6 recognised shoots at the range or ya lose the licence
[14:45:02] <joebog> crossbow illegle
[14:45:09] <kengu> sounds reasonable
[14:45:13] <jdh> we should move chicago to australia
[14:45:20] <joebog> long bow ya must be member of club and yer liceneced
[14:45:24] <Jymmm> joebog: JEEBUS, Prison rules still apply ;)
[14:45:34] <joebog> slingshot illegle
[14:46:14] <Jymmm> joebog: dirty looks?
[14:46:15] <joebog> we DONT have massive VERY STUPID killings that yanks consider daily life !! or is it daily death ?
[14:46:53] <joebog> we are always horrified when that stuff comes on TV
[14:46:58] <cradek> The NRA has a plan to put an armed volunteer at every military base.
[14:47:04] <jdh> heh
[14:47:11] <joebog> yanks just sorta walk on the other side of the street it seems
[14:47:18] <Jymmm> cradek: purpose?
[14:47:32] <Tom_itx> to not miss?
[14:48:04] <jdh> chance of a non-thug getting shot in the .us is really pretty low.
[14:48:28] <ReadError> http://www.dailygusta.com/Phone/i-M7rHtSS/0/X2/CA_09241314564610-X2.jpg
[14:48:34] <ReadError> latest thing off the mill ;)
[14:48:35] <joebog> non thug ??? so alla the lil school kids are thugs too ?
[14:48:39] <ReadError> i love how CF looks
[14:49:31] <jdh> I didn't say non-existent, just lower that one would expect from news/etc.
[14:49:33] <Jymmm> joebog: Us "Yanks" just don't want to be shoved off onto prison island where the top ten deadliest creatures in the world call home =)
[14:49:52] <Tom_itx> ReadError, you makin one of those 'head choppers'?
[14:50:19] <cradek> Jymmm: don't worry: the deadliest creature in the world is everywhere you go
[14:50:41] <ReadError> Tom_itx, lol
[14:50:44] <ReadError> nah
[14:50:50] <ReadError> these only have 4 blades of death
[14:50:59] <ReadError> well 8, but yea
[14:52:17] <Jymmm> cradek:
http://www.hotelclub.com/blog/the-10-most-dangerous-animals-in-australia/
[14:54:33] <joebog> heh heh I live in the bush and we call it Taipan central :)
[14:54:40] <joebog> but I never been bit
[14:54:41] <cradek> they're sure doing something right if old white men in suits isn't #1 on their list
[15:11:59] <alex_joni> heh
[15:30:41] <joebog> I seen alla the snakes in that link Jymmm but not the stuff in the sea er except crocs
[15:31:45] <joebog> and the spiders , in fact the funnel web if found mostly in sydney in the northern suberbs
[15:31:57] <joebog> is found not if
[15:35:42] <JesusAlos> hi people
[15:35:51] <joebog> hello :)
[15:36:57] <JesusAlos> I add this repository deb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ hardy master-rt
[15:37:15] <JesusAlos> to update 2.6
[15:37:29] <JesusAlos> but system need dependences
[15:37:59] <joebog> did you do an " apt-get install linuxcnc " ?
[15:39:02] <joebog> or if you just need update you do " sudo apt-get update "
[15:39:20] <joebog> the dependencies should automatically load
[15:39:52] <JesusAlos> I need update from 2.5.3
[15:43:12] <JesusAlos> and when type sudo apt-get install linuxcnc say need dependences too
[15:43:26] <joebog> If you're upgrading from one major version to another, for example from 2.4 to 2.5, you may need to do config changes! Read about it on the Wiki.
[15:44:08] <joebog> that is what the page says that you posted
[15:48:00] <joebog> hhmm but I think if added a new repository and you do an " sudo apt-get update " it should find the dependencies
[15:50:19] <JesusAlos> not do
[15:51:20] <joebog> fix broken packages ??
[15:51:34] <JesusAlos> yes
[15:52:01] <JesusAlos> libmodbus5 and hostmot2-firmware
[15:52:25] <joebog> did you install the manually ?
[15:53:15] <JesusAlos> you refer libmodbus5 and hostmot2-firmware ?
[15:53:30] <JesusAlos> no
[15:53:41] <cradek> you also need the "base" component
[15:54:24] <joebog> the other way to do it, is to delete your current install and reinstall the new version
[15:54:40] <joebog> BUT any files you have made will need to be saved first
[15:54:52] <cradek> http://linuxcnc.org/dists/hardy/base/binary-i386/
[15:55:34] <JesusAlos> what is the difference betweendeb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ lucid master-rt
[15:56:03] <JesusAlos> and deb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ hardy master-rt
[15:56:09] <JesusAlos> ?
[15:56:19] <cradek> one is for lucid, one is for hardy
[15:56:22] <joebog> lucid is a much newer version than Hardy
[15:56:34] <joebog> Lucid lynx
[15:56:47] <cradek> hardy is the 2008 release. lucid is the 2010 release.
[15:57:01] <joebog> a couple of years newer I beleive but I cant remember the actual dates
[15:57:06] <JesusAlos> ok
[15:57:13] <joebog> thanks cradek
[16:08:37] <JesusAlos> ok. is update
[16:08:40] <JesusAlos> thank
[16:08:53] <joebog> no problem
[17:32:23] <JesusAlos> gn
[18:40:11] <JT-Shop> I should be doing something
[18:41:32] <skunkworks> heh
[18:41:39] * somenewguy looks at pile of cut wires on his bench
[18:41:43] <somenewguy> you and me both
[18:41:53] <somenewguy> I'll just re-wire the panel I say
[18:41:57] <somenewguy> It'll be quick and easy I say...
[18:42:21] <JT-Shop> nothing is ever both quick and easy
[18:43:02] <JT-Shop> anyone want to play with my mill G code generator?
[18:43:18] <somenewguy> waht does it do?
[18:43:42] <JT-Shop> so far it is starting to generate the code needed for holes and tapping
[18:44:26] <JT-Shop> it's a Python Gtk app
[18:44:50] <JT-Shop> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/20-g-code/27032-mill-g-code-generator#39161
[18:46:14] <JT-Shop> I think I'll go work on it for a bit... I've been out in the shop all day
[18:46:56] <somenewguy> ok. I need to get my mill re-assembled, but it sounds like it will generate peck drill code?
[18:47:15] <somenewguy> I need to do some of that so I would be happy to take it for a spin, even tho I hand code that stuff usually
[18:48:37] <jthornton> I find it a tad faster to use the app than hand coding
[18:48:52] <jthornton> and you just made me add deep hole drilling too
[18:50:33] <somenewguy> haha
[18:50:49] <somenewguy> I am drilling .8 and 2.2 mm holes in acrylic, PECK OR DIE!
[18:50:49] <jthornton> one thing it does well is calculate the actual depth from the tip to get the depth of the full hole
[18:50:58] <somenewguy> THAT is a nice plus
[18:51:06] <somenewguy> are you two the same person?
[18:51:16] <jthornton> yea, we have a split personality
[18:51:25] <jthornton> I'm in the beer cave now
[18:51:52] <jthornton> it does spot drilling, drilling, reaming, chamfer and tap
[18:54:09] <kwallace2> How can you calculate the tip length?
[18:54:53] <jthornton> by the angle and diameter
[18:55:43] <kwallace2> There are different tip types, normal and split point, I gave up on trying to make the calc.
[18:56:07] <jthornton> yea, that is cutting hairs there
[18:56:30] <jthornton> I just use 118 or 135
[18:57:28] <kwallace2> My generator only uses the tip for reference.
[18:57:53] <somenewguy> that is a nice plus tho
[18:58:19] <somenewguy> since when I am drilling those small holes I don't want to cut any more into my udnerlying support than I need to, as sucking wood chips thru the acrylic is not good fora hole that small!
[18:58:24] <jthornton> comes in handy when your reaming blind holes and you want some depth
[18:58:25] <somenewguy> I need my dang parallels to show up
[18:59:46] <ries> Hey Guys, good evening. I wanted to implement auto-zero for my indexer, but then I realised that indexer's don't have limits. How do you configure homing for a indexer but in sutch a way that he will not wind back to zero but to the first latch position?
[19:00:18] <jthornton> do you have an input at each latch position?
[19:10:26] <ries> jthornton: I put one switch that that get0s activated on each 360 rotation
[19:11:35] <jthornton> perhaps a probe move to the switch then in G code set your offset
[19:13:08] <jthornton> using the probe result
[19:13:44] <jthornton> kwallace2, I have a spreadsheet that shows the calc if you want to look at it
[19:15:51] <kwallace2> I'm still undecided on what to do with the tip length. BTW this is what I have so far:
http://www.wallacecompany.com/tmp/Screenshot-13.png
[19:17:25] <kwallace2> A dwell calculation might be good too.
[19:17:58] <somenewguy> I would call Zend the end of the full size hole
[19:18:02] <jp_mill_> oooh looks nice!
[19:18:04] <somenewguy> since you are trying to make a hole
[19:18:11] <somenewguy> but that is the nicest looking tool I ahve seen
[19:18:29] <somenewguy> I am a mach3 user, waiting to get my parallel PCI card in the mail before going over to linuxcnc
[19:18:41] <somenewguy> no point setting up this machine, it is dying
[19:19:18] <somenewguy> but IMHO, I would prefere to tell it where the full diam hole should end, and have it give me a heads up in a box of waht the final tip depth would be
[19:19:31] <somenewguy> no clue how hard that is, just figured I'd give you the input
[19:20:12] <jthornton> sometimes I need full hole diameter depth and a way to calculate it with one mouse click or less
[19:20:45] <kwallace2> I had the hole called out properly to the radial corner, but then could not figure out how to calc the tip length without adding more boxes and buttons.
[19:21:24] <jthornton> yea, you gotta have all the facts
[19:21:25] <somenewguy> I would say just assume a 118 angle and have a greyed out box with the effective tip length?
[19:21:30] <jp_mill_> I wonder what that thread mill screen will look like?
[19:21:47] <somenewguy> OR a chart with final Z for std tip angles
[19:21:55] <somenewguy> coudl be in small print to the right of Z END
[19:22:15] <jthornton> I hate charts, if all you have is 118's then set that in a preference page
[19:22:21] <somenewguy> shrug, it might be more work than its worth, I have never acutally needed to konw before
[19:22:21] <jthornton> http://imagebin.org/271851
[19:22:34] <somenewguy> this current job just happens to care, first time ever lol
[19:23:00] <jthornton> I'm still adding a bit of things to that page
[19:23:34] <kwallace2> Nice work JT. I like it.
[19:23:49] <somenewguy> ^this, that is a really well done screen
[19:24:06] <jthornton> thanks, I've been working on it
[19:24:11] <somenewguy> although after looking at mach3 wizards long enough, dog poo has a beautiful UI
[19:24:20] <jthornton> lol
[19:24:36] <jthornton> they make my eyes hurt
[19:27:27] <kwallace2> Glade should allow many people to make their own UI. Once it gets more popular, I can imagine a library of UIs.
[19:28:23] <jthornton> I'm using glade for the basic screen layout
[19:35:43] <jthornton> all right deep hole drilling has been added
[19:35:54] <jthornton> on to reaming or dinner what ever comes first
[20:42:48] <ries> jthornton: I was thinking about that aswell, I could properly even attach it to my z-probe, also sorry for the delay, wife called
[21:12:54] <spack> CaptHindsight: what do you think about this?
[21:13:00] <spack> CaptHindsight:
https://swmi.craigslist.org/tls/4084649879.html
[21:14:21] <jdh> I could fit that in my garage, with some cleaning.
[21:14:30] <spack> "fit that in my garage"
[21:14:34] <spack> my thoughts exactly.
[21:15:39] <spack> probably have to unbolt something off the head to get a little clearance
[21:33:15] <CaptHindsight> spack: looks nice, there was a Matsuura 710 on fleabay for $1500 last week
[21:33:32] <spack> yeah, the one on the east coast?
[21:33:42] <spack> i thought the shipping might be pretty high
[21:34:11] <CaptHindsight> yeah, not sure if have a friend with a big trailer
[21:34:43] <CaptHindsight> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matsuura-710-/281170891274?pt=US_Heavy_Equipment&hash=item417717520a
[21:34:47] <CaptHindsight> still there
[21:38:00] <spack> i wonder how tall it is
[21:39:00] <spack> not finding that through google
[21:39:43] <CaptHindsight> that Bridgeport must be 6-7', but thats no help :)
[21:40:32] <spack> bridgeport should be 86"
[21:40:41] <spack> or that's what the interwebs say
[21:41:08] <CaptHindsight> how much clearance in your garage?
[21:41:47] <spack> it's about 84"
[21:41:48] <CaptHindsight> btw, I found a new hackerspace on the southside
[21:42:09] <spack> i'm counting on having to unbolt the spindle motor on just about anything
[21:42:11] <spack> orly?
[21:42:12] <spack> where at?
[21:42:48] <CaptHindsight> http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/South_Side_Hackerspace
[21:43:00] <CaptHindsight> 2233 S Throop St
[21:43:10] <CaptHindsight> near Chinatown
[21:43:20] <spack> cool, if i move from here, it will be to bridgeport
[21:43:33] <CaptHindsight> Bridgeport/Pilsen
[21:43:40] <CaptHindsight> http://sshchicago.org/
[21:44:12] <spack> i know that area pretty well
[21:44:12] <CaptHindsight> I was searching for some channel on IRC and it came up in the results
[21:44:17] <spack> heh
[21:44:19] <spack> nice
[21:45:07] <spack> i still like this one, but the dude won't come down on price:
[21:45:08] <spack> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hurco-KM3P-CNC-Milling-Machine-3-Axis-with-Books-Check-Video-/130944091144
[21:45:12] <spack> also, no tool changer
[21:46:11] <CaptHindsight> I've been too busy to look around
[21:46:19] <spack> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-Milling-Machine-99-Mighty-15-x-42-Bed-Mill-Model-MV40-NEEDS-REBOOT-DISC-/231052047370?pt=US_Heavy_Equipment&hash=item35cbc6740a
[21:46:24] <spack> i don't know anything about mighty
[21:46:46] <CaptHindsight> 1999
[21:46:55] <toastydeath> looks haas-level
[21:47:13] <toastydeath> i..e more rigid than a bridgeport, but less than the standard names you'd expect in VMCs
[21:47:18] <spack> dude said he wanted twice that if he finds the "boot disk"
[21:47:28] <spack> :P
[21:47:28] <CaptHindsight> hey I might even bid on that one :)
[21:47:42] <CaptHindsight> looks like a deal
[21:47:58] <toastydeath> i dig the pendant on that
[21:48:33] <spack> heh, that giant thing with the bmw wheel?
[21:48:34] <CaptHindsight> it's like those TV remotes for seniors
[21:49:09] <spack> looks pretty clean
[21:49:29] <spack> what's this "reboot disk" he's talking about?
[21:49:30] <CaptHindsight> it looks to big and clumsy to hold in one hand while turning the wheel with the other
[21:49:37] <spack> yeah, i bet it's been dropped a lot
[21:50:26] <CaptHindsight> needs reboot disc for control. PC Acramatic Control
[21:50:49] <spack> does he mean it needs to be reinstalled?
[21:50:56] <spack> what's a reboot disk?
[21:51:08] <spack> does it have the machine parameters on it or something?
[21:52:14] <CaptHindsight> it looks like it uses a PC for the controller
[21:52:25] <spack> i think that's just a drop feeder
[21:52:54] <spack> drip
[21:53:04] <CaptHindsight> has BIOS settings
[21:54:03] <spack> i'd have to unbolt a bunch of stuff off the top to clear the garage door
[21:54:33] <spack> looks like the spindle motor and those cable housings would take off 1.5' or so
[21:54:53] <spack> assuming that's do-able
[21:55:01] <spack> i only need 1'
[21:55:40] <CaptHindsight> some of the comments about Acramatic controls is that some used Win NT
[21:56:50] <spack> not bad
[21:57:01] <spack> at the time
[21:57:13] <CaptHindsight> would you convert to linuxcnc anyway?
[21:57:14] <spack> best windows os available back then anyway :P
[21:57:24] <spack> yeah
[21:57:25] <spack> for sure
[21:57:54] <spack> i'm leaning towards getting a machine that already works though to put it through some motions before diving into the conversion
[21:57:59] <CaptHindsight> thats the kind of machine I come across about once a month
[21:58:03] <spack> but if the deal is non-funcional, then so be it
[21:58:08] <spack> +t
[21:58:12] <CaptHindsight> nice machine, bad controller
[21:58:24] <spack> yeah, seems like that's the best rout
[21:58:24] <spack> e
[21:58:28] <spack> price-wise
[21:58:28] <CaptHindsight> owner needs floor space
[21:59:16] <spack> looks like it doesn't have a tool changer?
[21:59:51] <CaptHindsight> I don't see an ATC
[22:00:38] <CaptHindsight> when i was a kid an we wanted an ATC we had to .....
[22:01:24] <CaptHindsight> 15 HP, do you have enough juice in your garage?
[22:03:09] <CaptHindsight> http://myerstc.com/cncm/2447.htm
[22:08:37] <CaptHindsight> Myers Technology Co. buys and sells used and surplus machinery,
[22:14:24] <CaptHindsight> spack:
http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/bfs/4088484398.html
[22:17:57] <CaptHindsight> http://rockford.craigslist.org/tls/4078148373.html
[22:18:05] <CaptHindsight> no price nevermind
[22:18:14] <toastydeath> Fadal is like haas
[22:18:21] <toastydeath> weird fuckin' machines
[22:18:34] <CaptHindsight> toastydeath: how so?
[22:18:47] <toastydeath> how they move is... weird
[22:18:52] <toastydeath> plus it's like using MS-DOS for cnc
[22:18:58] <CaptHindsight> heh
[22:19:05] <uw> i bet they want a lot for that pos
[22:19:06] <toastydeath> in a way that fanuc isn't
[22:19:38] <toastydeath> also those spindles rarely draw 15 hp
[22:19:55] <toastydeath> even when i tried i had a hard time loading up a mill spindle
[22:19:59] <toastydeath> something else always failed first
[22:20:13] <toastydeath> lathes are a different story, but on mills it's pretty easy to run a 15 hp machine way under
[22:20:25] <toastydeath> keep the accel down though
[22:21:12] <CaptHindsight> have you ever accidentally mover the z down too quickly with a giant face mill?
[22:21:23] <CaptHindsight> mover/moved
[22:21:52] <CaptHindsight> seems to trip the breakers
[22:22:30] <toastydeath> ?
[22:22:42] <toastydeath> like, crashed a facemill
[22:22:46] <toastydeath> or just moved Z quickly
[22:22:55] <CaptHindsight> crash :)
[22:23:05] <spack> i think it's 60A 220
[22:23:15] <toastydeath> def
[22:23:22] <toastydeath> on most machines it doesn't trip the breakers
[22:23:24] <toastydeath> it kicks off a following error
[22:23:28] <toastydeath> on the spindle index
[22:23:34] <toastydeath> and often on the table feeds
[22:24:53] <spack> i wonder how tall that bmc-20 is
[22:24:58] <spack> i looked at it a while ago
[22:25:01] <spack> thought it was probably too big
[22:25:26] <spack> looks pretty well used too
[22:25:38] <spack> is being semi- used for storage
[22:25:56] <CaptHindsight> yeah, looks pretty tall based on the door in the back wall
[22:27:10] <CaptHindsight> $3K is a bit high, but they usually don't take offers for less than what it's worth as scrap
[22:27:14] <spack> "BMC20 was about 7ft 2ins to the top of the Z motor if I remember correctly."
[22:27:20] <spack> that's not too bad
[22:27:22] <spack> if it's true
[22:27:44] <CaptHindsight> has an ATC
[22:27:52] <spack> what's the price of scrap steel nowadays?
[22:28:13] <CaptHindsight> well if you're not under some timeline to get one, I'd wait
[22:28:51] <spack> i've been kicking myself ever since i let that matsuura in milwaukee go
[22:28:56] <spack> but i had nowhere to put it at the time
[22:29:08] <CaptHindsight> needs spindle bearings
[22:29:11] <spack> http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php?topic=24466.0
[22:29:37] <spack> 3500... dude had everything working except the ATC
[22:29:45] <spack> not far away
[22:32:28] <CaptHindsight> yes, it's poorly wired and needs spindle bearings
[22:33:29] <spack> did you talk to him?
[22:33:53] <CaptHindsight> it's dangerous as it is currently setup, if the PC dies when the hydraulic pump is on the spindle starts up even with the e-stop
[22:34:49] <CaptHindsight> it's sitting behind me :)
[22:34:53] <spack> lol
[22:36:05] <CaptHindsight> it gets USB errors when running, half way into a circular pocket Mach crashed with the spindle going all out
[22:36:35] <CaptHindsight> first chance I get it's coming apart and getting rewired
[22:37:38] <CaptHindsight> he was in really over his head
[22:39:07] <spack> damn
[22:39:59] <CaptHindsight> oh and it thinks it's moving when it's not
[22:40:10] <spack> hehe
[22:40:19] <spack> that's annoying
[22:40:23] <CaptHindsight> it just makes up steps
[22:41:23] <CaptHindsight> or takes the MPG pulses as position vs only reading position from the encoders
[22:41:40] <CaptHindsight> so it's quite a mess currently
[22:42:45] <CaptHindsight> I think the problem with the spindle speed control is also just wiring
[22:43:59] <spack> i'm probably going to pick up a small taig manual lathe soon
[22:44:05] <spack> just because why not
[22:44:20] <toastydeath> imho a manual lathe and mill are more useful to have than a cnc lathe or mill
[22:44:27] <spack> yeah
[22:44:42] <toastydeath> I'd like to have a bridgeport and a turret lathe
[22:45:00] <CaptHindsight> I'm going to look for some bigger and faster mills
[22:45:14] <spack> a friend of mine is probably picking up a good sized south bend in the near future to put in the same garage
[22:45:18] <toastydeath> CaptHindsight, Kitamura, Matsuura, Mori Seiki
[22:45:19] <toastydeath> DMC
[22:45:27] <CaptHindsight> spack: would you want a project like this?
[22:45:28] <spack> and eventually i'm going to through a bridgeport in there
[22:45:48] <toastydeath> it might just be me but whenever I use a lathe i inevitably need to make like 6 of something
[22:45:48] <spack> but to run batches of parts, it obviously makes sense to have a CNC
[22:45:57] <spack> CaptHindsight: the matsuura?
[22:46:08] <CaptHindsight> spack: yes
[22:46:42] <spack> not sure, how much are spindle bearings?
[22:46:50] <toastydeath> I have found myself going to turret lathes way more often than engine lathes
[22:46:58] <toastydeath> the only advantage engine lathes have is threading
[22:48:00] <CaptHindsight> spack: not sure from Matsuura, but from what I can tell ~$200 for something that size and spec
[22:49:40] <CaptHindsight> I'm finding amazon to be a great place to find precision angular contact bearings in stock at low prices
[22:50:00] <CaptHindsight> even crossed roller types
[22:50:29] <toastydeath> you do not want to be replacing spindle bearings
[22:50:39] <toastydeath> they are much, much harder to replace than people think they are
[22:51:04] <CaptHindsight> yeah, I'm building some units now
[23:01:04] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/271861 Linuxcnc for Dummies
[23:01:52] <MacGalempsy> evening everyone
[23:04:13] <CaptHindsight> hello
