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[02:01:37] <DJ9DJ> moin
[03:19:53] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[08:55:33] <IchGuckLive> hi all from rain filled Germany
[08:55:47] <IchGuckLive> Chemeleon: ?
[08:57:27] <IchGuckLive> the infopage is up for the Stepper Ballscrew animation on 20/25
http://foengarage.de/gears2.html
[08:58:51] <IchGuckLive> i also added a youtube info video
[09:00:08] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH5q5UBOChw
[09:00:12] <Tecan> (UH5q5UBOChw) "Steppermotor Ballscrew Gear Timingbelt SYSTEM" by "magic33de" is "Education" - Length: 0:01:48
[09:00:56] <IchGuckLive> by till this evening !
[09:26:28] <archivist> does not animate here
[09:45:35] <Vq> Is there a hal module for polynomials? I don't find any in the docs.
[11:59:20] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:01:57] <IchGuckLive> archivist still here
[12:02:53] <IchGuckLive> spack: ? Deutsch
[12:04:41] <IchGuckLive> Cylly: servus wetter ist bescheiden hier
[12:05:59] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: könntest du bitte mal checken ob sich die zahnräder bei dir drehen
http://foengarage.de/gears2.html
[12:06:39] <IchGuckLive> Danke
[12:46:29] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, nice animation, thx. for zoll screw pitch 0.200" gives 0.0005" per step.
[12:46:39] <tjtr33> zoll = inch
[12:47:01] <IchGuckLive> Thanks
[12:49:28] <jasen_> hi all any with experience for the mesa 7I80 and xenomai here
[12:50:49] <skunkworks> jasen_: I have tested it - but it doesn't work 100% for me yet.
[12:51:03] <skunkworks> jasen_: what issues are you having?
[12:51:35] <jasen_> attached , but looks the pc lan goes to 1gb instead of 100 mb
[12:51:58] <jasen_> and i cant get connection
[12:52:41] <skunkworks> huh. is the nic one that is supported for rtnet?
[12:53:27] <jasen_> e1000
[12:54:05] <IchGuckLive> jasen_: force the lan speed down
[12:54:11] <jasen_> haw
[12:54:31] <skunkworks> I think this is above my pay grade... pcw_home from mesa may be able to shed some light. (7i80 is in its infancy as far as support goes)
[12:54:52] <skunkworks> My testing was don with the intel pro/100
[12:54:53] <IchGuckLive> jasen_: sudo iwconfig eth0 rate 100M
[12:56:00] <jasen_> thanks
[12:58:03] <jasen_> skunkworks , why you said 7I80 is not 100 ok for you?
[13:00:23] <jasen_> looks iwconfig is not for the rtnet
[13:00:37] <IchGuckLive> jasen_: did you check the card by ethtool
[13:00:42] <jasen_> yes
[13:00:56] <IchGuckLive> Supported link modes:
[13:02:17] <IchGuckLive> sudo ethtool -f eth0 speed 100 duplex full autoneg on
[13:03:15] <IchGuckLive> and then check again
[13:07:20] <IchGuckLive> jasen_: you might sraer with -s (SET) insted of -f (force) first B)
[13:07:37] <IchGuckLive> Start O.O
[13:08:01] <jasen_> got it , works now. thanks
[13:08:07] <IchGuckLive> NP
[13:09:10] <IchGuckLive> jasen_: if it is posible for you you can set up a small tutorial for people that goes for the 7i80
[13:09:40] <jasen_> shure , let me get it works first
[13:09:48] <IchGuckLive> :D
[13:11:34] <jasen_> but my 7I80 is little different
[13:11:39] <jasen_> http://imagebin.org/270913
[13:14:57] * archivist wipes eyes to recheck focus
[13:15:10] <skunkworks> jasen_: cool. I have used/edited these directions.. For me the config doesn't seem to get sent to the 7i80.
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Mesa7i80_Driver_For_Linuxcnc_On_Xenomai
[13:15:41] <skunkworks> it is something they are working on.
[13:16:15] <IchGuckLive> jasen_: why not going direct to the new 7i76E
[13:17:07] <IchGuckLive> this card will be the new fonter to be run under linuxcnc
[13:17:27] <IchGuckLive> for the notebook freeks
[13:17:40] <IchGuckLive> no more 5i25
[13:18:00] <jasen_> cant do that with 7i76
[13:18:04] <jasen_> http://imagebin.org/270914
[13:19:25] <IchGuckLive> lots of polugs
[13:19:38] <IchGuckLive> all for stepper and endcoder
[13:20:14] <jasen_> 8seerial + 8 encoders +6 sserial for add boards +1 parport for g540
[13:20:29] <jasen_> made for 8I20
[13:20:35] <IchGuckLive> some are dying to find always the eges of the tecnologie
[13:20:48] <skunkworks> wow - what is the project?
[13:21:00] <jasen_> is a hexapod machine that i want to make
[13:21:06] <skunkworks> neat
[13:21:17] * skunkworks wants to build a hexapod
[13:21:22] <skunkworks> someday
[13:21:50] <IchGuckLive> il stay with the big hardware
[13:22:34] <IchGuckLive> jasen_: nice coil of solder
[13:22:43] <jasen_> we will see tonight we will test it
[13:25:24] <IchGuckLive> have fun im off BY
[13:34:07] <eric_unterhausen> my delta repstrap is coming together
[13:34:38] <eric_unterhausen> close enough to a hexapod to make me happy
[13:36:50] <skunkworks> heh - neat
[14:11:34] <jasen_> any to have 7i80 .ini sample file?
[14:11:52] <jasen_> look in mine something is missing
[15:38:50] <false8> pcw_home: you in?
[15:51:48] <pcw_home> Yeah
[15:57:43] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[15:57:51] <false8> goodnight!
[16:05:14] <false8> pcw_home: I opted for 2 Granite Devices VSD-E drives, I'm keeping the old ones for when I have some extra time to find out what the problem was :P. I will now connect the 2 vsd's in DualDC config, they will need step/dir input when configured like this. So we currently have: 1x5i20 1x7i47 (step/dir) 1x7i44 (7i64 connected) 1x7i33(for spindle +-10V and mpg's). Am I correct to assume I would
[16:05:15] <false8> need a custom bitfile for this?
[16:06:23] <pcw_home> Probably (though its hard to keep track of whats around)
[16:13:03] <false8> yeah I tried looking for something that might suite me, but couldn't find anything. Will the following fit on the 5i20? 9x encoder (5x axis, 4x mpg) + 1x pwmgen (spindle) + what's needed for the 7i44 to function (GPIO)
[16:13:17] <false8> forgot the 5x step/dir
[16:15:07] <pcw_home> That will all fit except 8 sserial channels (a 7I44 can have 8), probably have to limit the number of sserial channels to 4 or so
[16:15:54] <false8> OK that's still massive amounts of GPIO left there. Would it be possible for you to create such a bitfile or can I do this myself?
[16:18:33] <pcw_home> You can do it but its a fair project if you've not used the Xilinx tools before
[16:20:10] <Tom_itx> massive xilinx download
[16:20:19] <Tom_itx> for one bit file but it's a good learning experience
[16:20:36] <false8> I've not used them before but I am kind of a geek so might be able to pull it off :P
[16:21:15] <false8> I have fiber at home so the download is no problem, assuming xilinx has enought bandwith to keep up :P (100/100m)
[16:30:01] <false8> pcw_home: I will try myself, always good to learn something, if I you could create it for me?
[16:32:01] <false8> if I fail that should say
[17:06:40] <pcw_home> Yeah I can do it on Monday
[17:07:18] <pcw_home> Note that for the 5I20 and its Spartan2 chip you need an old Webpack (9.2)
[17:36:01] <false8> Thanks!
[17:48:08] <Tom_itx> pcw_home, the new webpack doesn't support Spartan2?
[17:50:52] <pcw_home> No, nothing past version 9 supports Spartan2
[17:52:24] <Tom_itx> and 9 doesn't support the newer boards..
[18:01:36] <pcw_home> Yep
[18:02:38] <pcw_home> 9 supports Spartan3 but is quite buggy with Spartan3
[18:03:34] <Tom_itx> i think i've got em both installed anyway
[18:04:20] <pcw_home> I use 9 for Spartan2 support and 13 for newer stuff (unfortunately they broke the editor somewhere in 10..12)
[18:04:20] <Tom_itx> didn't i use 9 on a 7i43?
[18:04:22] <pcw_home> and it remains broken in 14
[18:04:53] <Tom_itx> but when i was compiling the sserial stuff for it you had me get 14...
[18:05:27] <Tom_itx> so you need 14 for sserial?
[18:05:37] <pcw_home> possibly I dod a lot of SP3 work on 9 bit it tends to fall down on big complicated designs however
[18:06:11] <pcw_home> sserial doesnt care (5I20/4I65 sserial needs 9)
[18:07:33] <pcw_home> 9 is currently a pain with sserial because it does not have the "ignore unused timing constraints"
[18:07:34] <pcw_home> option the later versions of ISE have
[18:08:15] <Tom_itx> i recall you found a bug in 14 with it as well
[18:08:27] <Tom_itx> compile for speed vs size or some such thing
[18:08:45] <pcw_home> So it means I need a different .ucf file for designs using sserial and not
[18:09:23] <pcw_home> Yes the latest find is never use the move logic to unused blockRAMs option
[18:10:06] <pcw_home> (Ive done that when I was full up and needed every trick to cram the design in)
[18:12:20] <pcw_home> I think the xilinx tools dont really understand how their own block RAMS work
[18:12:21] <pcw_home> we've notices this for a long time in the fact that BlockRAMs inferred in SPartan2
[18:12:23] <pcw_home> designs don't behave the same as Spartan3 BlockRAMs
[19:39:15] <eric_unterhausen> strangely, my desktop is happily running xenomai kernel
[19:39:37] <eric_unterhausen> I dont remember installing a real time kernel on this comp
[21:36:26] <uw> i have a small mill and running a 3/16" end mill. i would like to mill mild steel (A36 type). what would be a good speed for this?
[21:38:27] <Tom_itx> http://zero-divide.net/index.php?page=fswizard&shell_id=199&load_tool_id=27011
[21:40:30] <Chemeleon> handy :)
[21:41:06] <Tom_itx> http://www.onsrud.com/plusdocs/Doc/index.html?model.code=FeedSpeeds
[21:41:10] <Tom_itx> another handy