#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-07-15

[02:10:22] <DJ9DJ> moin
[05:14:13] <mhaberler> Aero-Tec3: not that I know of, but if you use master you can write your own cycle G-codes: http://tinyurl.com/oau7rwe
[09:15:26] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: dont' know nothing about the Kawa but the GL1500 looks clean
[09:15:57] <JT-Shop> opps GL1200
[09:20:56] <cradek> http://lincoln.craigslist.org/mcy/3831162426.html
[09:32:03] <JT-Shop> yours?
[09:33:50] <cradek> yeah, so far
[09:33:56] <cradek> a few people interested, but all flakes
[09:34:13] <JT-Shop> looking to give it a new zip code?
[09:34:21] <JT-Shop> a bunch of flakes out there
[09:34:56] <JT-Shop> my neighbor would say I just gave xyz a new zip code meaning he sold it
[09:34:56] <cradek> I don't care where it ends up :-)
[09:34:56] <cradek> someone showing up with cash can have it
[09:35:09] <JT-Shop> don't for get your marking pen
[09:35:39] <cradek> ?
[09:35:52] <JT-Shop> to check for fake bills
[09:36:11] <mozmck> check for fake fiat money :)
[09:36:17] <cradek> arg
[09:36:17] <cradek> would've never thought of that
[09:57:51] <Getty> that technical stuff really makes fun, just had again an awesome discussion with my dad, learned again a tons about physics ;) LOL and now we move the table, not the drill ;)
[10:03:09] * frallzor cuddles with JT-Shop
[10:47:56] <fbx90> ahoy
[10:49:22] <fbx90> cradek: i was just in lincoln over the weekend
[10:51:57] <cradek> aha, lucky you
[10:52:58] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: and the price?
[10:55:02] <JT-Shop> well cash talks and BS walks so I'd start with a stack of 20 Bengies
[10:55:02] <JT-Shop> and if I really wanted it I'd bring more
[10:55:12] <JT-Shop> I still see GL1200's on the road around here often
[10:55:49] <Jymmm> so $2k is reasonable?
[10:56:42] <JT-Shop> clean and low miles I'd say ...
[10:56:56] <JT-Shop> up to you
[10:57:25] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: I have no context is why I asked.
[10:57:54] <JT-Shop> I've not priced any GL1200's so I don't know either
[10:58:06] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: I'm not even sure what to look at on a bike other than if the tires are good and it hasn't been dumped hard.
[10:58:20] <JT-Shop> I paid $10k for a 98 GL1500
[10:58:51] <JT-Shop> start it up and see how many things work like lights and radio and any other accessories
[10:58:53] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: in 1998 or 2008?
[10:59:21] <JT-Shop> in 2007or8 can't remember
[11:00:10] <JT-Shop> check flea bay for asking prices for similar bikes
[11:00:50] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Well, I just dont' want to low-ball someone if htey are asking a reasonable price to begin with is all.
[11:01:36] <cradek> for some reason it's much harder to price a motorcycle than a car
[11:01:55] <jdh> I'm a fan of lowball offers.
[11:02:07] <Jymmm> jdh: whys that?
[11:02:14] <jdh> especially for things that people don't really need (boats, bikes, etc)
[11:03:06] <jdh> because they often take them.
[11:03:20] <Jymmm> ah
[11:03:24] <JT-Shop> and he said it was not for him, but he may not want to let it go for much less than he paid because he has only had it a short while
[11:03:35] <Jymmm> you meant GIVING a low ball ofer.
[11:03:41] <jdh> sure
[11:03:47] <jdh> I don't mind receiving them either.
[11:03:54] <Jymmm> gotcha
[11:03:58] <JT-Shop> if they have been sitting for a long time they will take any offer
[11:43:10] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: you ride a bike now or in the past?
[11:44:29] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: In the past, before a friend borrowed my bike and forget which was the brake and which was the clutch as he was heading towards a brick wall. The wall won.
[11:46:33] <JT-Shop> is your new motto never let friends borrow your bike
[11:47:36] <JT-Shop> http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=41302
[11:47:40] <JT-Shop> something like this?
[11:55:56] <CaptHindsight> did you see the 3 people on the bike in the lower left?
[11:59:23] <JT-Shop> I've seen them carry almost anything on those scooters
[12:00:37] <gabewillen> so i am 1 hour into a kernel compilation and i forgot to set the CONCURRENCY_LEVEL ... should i abort set it and restart continue or wait it out?
[12:01:55] <gabewillen> Won't it resume where it left off?
[12:04:30] <cpresser> gabewillen: depends :) when you are using make, it will resume
[12:04:39] <cpresser> dpkg-buildpackage however will restart
[12:05:28] <gabewillen> i stopped it, restarted its cruising now
[12:05:42] <gabewillen> good thing i have to go to work in an 30mins
[12:06:19] <gabewillen> i wonder how long it took to compile a major program in the 80's and early 90's
[12:06:31] <gabewillen> days?
[12:07:01] <pcw_home> minutes probably
[12:07:23] <archivist> programs were not full of OOP crap in the 1980's :)
[12:07:31] <pcw_home> software bloat has outrun even the best hardware
[12:08:07] <gabewillen> who is to blame?
[12:08:26] <jdh> Obama
[12:08:31] <gabewillen> lol
[12:08:32] <archivist> my cycle time for an eprom for a printer was 45 minutes early 80s
[12:09:19] <archivist> edit. on a cpm, compile, move to pet program eprom
[12:12:15] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:12:35] <IchGuckLive> nice and sunny hot temperatures here in germany
[12:12:51] <gabewillen> alright, i'll be back just patched RTAI on kernel 3.4.53, time to test it out
[12:12:54] <IchGuckLive> clear sky going at telescop time tonight
[12:13:33] <IchGuckLive> gabewillen: why not staying on 10.04 and 2.5.2
[12:13:43] <IchGuckLive> all cad CAM s run on it
[12:13:58] <IchGuckLive> i got sheetcam running gimp incscape ...
[12:14:14] <IchGuckLive> full service mashine
[12:14:30] <gabewillen> Because of massive improvements in the 3.x kernels
[12:14:45] <IchGuckLive> no need on steppers
[12:15:04] <gabewillen> Its not a latency issue
[12:15:55] <gabewillen> for instance in the 3.x kernel's usb driver's don't spinlock on read and write.
[12:16:24] <IchGuckLive> agree on that
[12:16:38] <IchGuckLive> but dont plug usb on mashining at all
[12:17:10] <gabewillen> Also it should be a goal to keep up as much as possible with the kernel devel
[12:17:31] <gabewillen> It only gets harder the longer we wait, and the more thats changed
[12:19:43] <IchGuckLive> agree
[12:19:44] <gabewillen> Not saying it needs to be used until deemed stable
[12:19:44] <gabewillen> the 2.6.32 kernel is rock solid
[12:19:44] <IchGuckLive> you are the test objekt
[12:19:53] <gabewillen> of course... if it aint broke, break it and make it better. Thats my motto
[12:20:52] <IchGuckLive> i think the 14.04 lts will be the goal to meet as he 10.04 is supported till 04.2015
[12:21:27] <IchGuckLive> but its a miss on the cam systems
[12:21:43] <IchGuckLive> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[12:22:26] <IchGuckLive> always as i go to retirerment next year it coudt be all over for me soon
[12:22:42] <IchGuckLive> so 2.5.2 is to stay with for me
[12:22:48] <andypugh> IchGuckLive: The colours are unclear, but Desktop 10.04 is already out of support.
[12:23:19] <IchGuckLive> andypugh: thanks
[12:24:48] <IchGuckLive> andypugh: as colors show 10.04 dektop out at Feb 2013
[12:27:45] <IchGuckLive> today i got 4 youtube abos
[12:28:56] <IchGuckLive> i hope as i always point to the channel here people qwill meat us
[12:30:33] <pcw_home> I hope that they would meet us and not "meat" us
[12:30:52] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[12:31:31] <IchGuckLive> maybe its the englisg spelling if been firerd not the linuxcnc Ubuntu education lessens
[12:31:36] <jthornton> soylent green
[12:33:34] <jthornton> mmmm Sioux City Orange Cream
[12:34:25] <IchGuckLive> soda ?
[12:34:36] <IchGuckLive> or color
[12:34:40] <jthornton> soda
[12:35:15] <IchGuckLive> ice cold Jam
[13:27:54] <frallzor> I told myself when I built my machine I could live with all manual settings and such, but when one adds 2 small functions that does things for you, you are in heaven!
[13:29:04] <IchGuckLive> it does all you can imagan if you can pay for it
[13:29:09] <IchGuckLive> By
[14:22:42] <frallzor> ahh machining my last coaster!
[14:24:43] <fbx90> out of how many?
[14:25:13] <frallzor> 6 =P
[14:25:17] <frallzor> but its boring!
[14:25:34] <frallzor> the fun part is now, but that might F it all up
[14:25:50] <frallzor> adding clear epoxy resin in the cavities
[14:28:35] <fbx90> pics?
[14:33:00] <frallzor> Think you have seen it, wasnt your friend a liverpool buff?
[14:36:52] <fbx90> nope
[14:36:55] <fbx90> not me :)
[14:43:10] <frallzor> mixing epoxy right now
[15:01:18] <PetefromTn> Epoxy is your friend..
[15:48:32] <fbx90> epoxy is awesome when it works
[15:53:17] <archivist> and a pain when it does not
[15:57:36] * JT-Shop finally got the rotary table full of oil
[15:58:15] * FinboySlick offers a classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac7G7xOG2Ag
[15:58:17] <Tecan> (Ac7G7xOG2Ag) ""Turbo Encabulator" the Original" by "Dave Rondot" is "Comedy" - Length: 0:01:49
[15:58:36] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, are you 'cncing' it?
[15:58:42] <JT-Shop> yea
[15:59:06] <Tom_itx> i wish i had a rotary like that only smaller
[15:59:21] <JT-Shop> smaller than what?
[15:59:36] <Tom_itx> the one you got
[15:59:41] <JT-Shop> ah
[15:59:45] <archivist> they come in various sizes
[15:59:48] <Tom_itx> it wouldn't fit on my mill :)
[15:59:52] <JT-Shop> they make a 6" and 4"
[15:59:57] <Tom_itx> i'm sure
[16:00:05] <JT-Shop> you need a 2"?
[16:00:10] <Tom_itx> i don't think so
[16:00:18] <Tom_itx> 4" might fit
[16:00:31] <Tom_itx> 2" you couldn't do much with
[16:00:33] <archivist> the tiny 2 and a bit inch I saw was rubbish
[16:00:58] <JT-Shop> the 4 jaw chuck is taller than the rotary :(
[16:02:26] <Tom_itx> did a specific job encourage you to get it?
[16:02:46] <JT-Shop> yes
[16:03:19] <Tom_itx> i think the one we had on the fadal had a 3jaw hydraulic chuck iirc
[16:03:38] <Tom_itx> i might be wrong on that, it's been quite a while
[16:04:19] <Tom_itx> it was an indexer though
[16:13:08] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:22:05] <frallzor> ahhh all done with le epoxy
[17:00:50] <fbx90> hmm
[17:00:56] <fbx90> gat damn scaling issues
[17:13:21] <frallzor> interesting how hot the epoxy became while curing
[17:17:49] <DaViruz> they do. 5min epoxy can get burning hot
[17:18:56] <frallzor> this is 24h epoxy though
[17:19:00] <frallzor> so not that bad
[17:19:20] <frallzor> or well 12-24h demoulding time
[17:19:42] <DaViruz> oh.
[17:20:20] <DaViruz> my 12h aeropoxy epoxy doesn't get warm at all.
[17:20:43] <frallzor> this isnt an adhesive though
[17:21:01] <frallzor> more like fake glass
[17:21:14] <DaViruz> 12h lamination epoxy usually gets a little warm when in a cup
[17:22:25] <frallzor> time for refill, sunk in enough now to not sink in more =)
[17:26:09] <fbx90> who posted a link to that german touch probe the other day?
[17:34:16] <Tom_itx> http://www.mmsonline.com/columns/gage-contacts-get-the-point
[17:48:42] <frallzor> me
[17:50:04] <frallzor> http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5510/5x5h.jpg now its just drying, slowly...
[17:53:12] <JT-Shop> do you sand it flat after it dries?
[17:53:29] <JT-Shop> nice work
[17:54:01] <frallzor> JT-Shop yup
[17:54:10] <JT-Shop> nice
[17:54:14] <frallzor> otherwise it wont look puuuurty
[18:17:15] * JT-Shop waits for the epoxy to dry
[18:21:18] <frallzor> 12-14hrs
[18:21:19] <frallzor> =P
[18:37:07] * JT-Shop doens't respond well to http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/26768-tool-setting#36686
[18:39:36] <JT-Shop> I sent him to Mack
[18:39:48] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Where in the manusl does it state the LOCATION of the ini file?
[18:40:06] <JT-Shop> in file locations
[18:40:41] <Jymmm> link?
[18:40:52] <Jymmm> and you knew I was gonna ask that
[18:41:00] <Tom_itx> sounds like a kid
[18:41:18] <JT-Shop> yea and I'm kinda busy and only have 30 minutes to complete 45 minutes worth of work
[18:41:37] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: whenever, no biggy
[18:42:18] * Tom_itx looks at the 8 ball JT-Shop's behind
[18:42:22] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: maybe, be he has a valid point. WHAT is it, and WHERE is it.
[18:42:35] <Tom_itx> i managed
[18:42:39] <Tom_itx> i was a noob when i started
[18:42:43] <JT-Shop> I see an error
[18:42:53] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: But you're "special"
[18:42:55] <JT-Shop> I was less than a noob when I started
[18:43:03] <Tom_itx> Jymmm, i know :)
[18:43:16] * JT-Shop sees another branding error in the docs
[18:44:02] <Tom_itx> but i used irc quite a bit to get going too
[18:44:08] <Jymmm> It's like looking at a project's website. they say/have EVERYTHING else, except a one-liner of WTF "it" is.
[18:44:12] <Tom_itx> maybe the docs should point here
[18:44:22] <JT-Shop> they do
[18:44:33] <Tom_itx> that proves he didn't read the docs
[18:45:27] <frallzor> no time for ze bed and wake up with semi-done coasters!
[18:46:52] <Tom_itx> i wonder if he installed one of the 'template' files when he loaded lcnc
[18:47:02] <Tom_itx> it asks you where to put it
[18:50:17] <JT-Shop> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/Getting_EMC.html#_getting_help
[19:03:51] <fbx90> so i was checking out the list of hardware that works well with emc2
[19:04:02] <fbx90> and i couldn't find any of it that is still available :)
[19:04:20] <fbx90> my current box has shitty latency and i want to replace it with a motherboard with known low latency
[19:04:48] <fbx90> any suggestions?
[19:06:46] <JT-Shop> did you look on the forum, there are some recent posts on motherboards
[19:07:06] <fbx90> i poked around
[19:07:10] <fbx90> i'll look again
[19:07:13] <JT-Shop> I just put one in my plasma cutter a few weeks ago
[19:07:41] <fbx90> what kind of latency are you getting?
[19:07:45] <JT-Shop> should find it in the PC Computers section
[19:07:49] <fbx90> k
[19:08:50] <JT-Shop> 15,000ns
[19:08:59] <JT-Shop> are you using software step generation?
[19:09:40] <fbx90> yeah
[19:10:38] <fbx90> most of the posts in the forums are pretty old
[19:10:54] <fbx90> some of them are already unavailable too
[19:11:11] <JT-Shop> let me find the box
[19:12:18] <JT-Shop> search for asus e45 m1-m pro on the forum
[19:12:48] <fbx90> hmm, no results
[19:15:05] <JT-Shop> try just e45
[19:15:27] <JT-Shop> here is one http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/18-computer/26340-need-recommendations-tiny-pc-wpci-slot#31906
[19:15:41] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[19:16:15] <Jymmm> G'Night Groucho
[19:16:57] <JT-Shop> night night
[19:18:29] <fbx90> thanks
[19:18:42] <fbx90> need a new case for that
[19:20:11] <fbx90> and new psu
[19:20:15] <fbx90> and new hard drive
[19:20:59] <fbx90> cool
[19:21:03] <fbx90> i'll figure it out tomorrow i guess
[19:21:10] <fbx90> gotta get some chicken wangs
[19:21:15] <fbx90> see ya :)
[19:59:11] <AR__> man fly-cutting is nice when you get it right
[20:47:33] <syyl__> i like the tormach aproach ;)
[20:47:56] <syyl__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Xa0PMHM1U
[20:47:58] <Tecan> (Y2Xa0PMHM1U) "Tormach Superfly Fly Cutter / Face Mill Test Cuts in Aluminum!" by "John NYCCNC" is "Tech" - Length: 0:06:55
[20:48:49] <syyl__> they go pretty agressive with a flycutter...