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[00:38:46] <ryan_turner> Hello! Are there any options for using linuxcnc without a parallel port or with a USB device?
[00:42:09] <GammaX> ryan_turner, ofcourse. What setup do you have
[00:42:22] <GammaX> machine type, motor type?
[00:42:31] <ryan_turner> GammaX, I dont have a machine yet. I'd like to purchase a kit or a premade small machine.
[00:42:39] <GammaX> ohhhh
[00:42:43] <ryan_turner> I'd love to make my own, but I dont have access to any machine tools except for a 3D printer.
[00:42:56] <GammaX> well then that makes it hard...
[00:42:59] <ryan_turner> Im only interested in machining wood, circuit boards, and thin aluminum.
[00:43:14] <GammaX> well how big or a peice?
[00:43:22] <ryan_turner> I need a smaller machine, as Im a college student and dont have a ton of space. Envelope of 200 x 200 x 150 would be fine.
[00:43:34] <GammaX> is that mm?
[00:43:35] <ryan_turner> yes
[00:43:38] <GammaX> where u from anyway?
[00:43:41] <ryan_turner> Memphis TN
[00:43:47] <ryan_turner> and Tuscaloosa AL
[00:43:53] <ryan_turner> USA
[00:43:59] <GammaX> and you used the metric system?
[00:44:00] <GammaX> lol
[00:44:23] <GammaX> thats a VERY small foot print
[00:44:24] <ryan_turner> Picked it up from 3D printing
[00:44:30] <GammaX> ahhh
[00:44:32] <ryan_turner> Im willing to do more, but my budget is limited
[00:44:44] <GammaX> you want to buy a machine and convert it?
[00:44:51] <ryan_turner> Sorry?
[00:45:09] <GammaX> dont be sorry many guys on here have small machines
[00:45:15] <ryan_turner> no I dont understand
[00:45:25] <ryan_turner> a machine and convert it <--- convert what? what sort of machine?
[00:45:38] <GammaX> a milling machine and convert it into cnc?
[00:46:14] <GammaX> im assuming your going for a cnc mill
[00:46:40] <ryan_turner> yes
[00:46:58] <ryan_turner> that is what I'd like to make. I'd love to build one if possible. I'd rather spend the time than money.
[00:47:01] <GammaX> I can help you a lot better if you tell me how much your wanting to spend...
[00:47:19] <GammaX> well that has its ups and downs....
[00:47:35] <GammaX> making it is gratifying but sometimes that turns into a never ending project....
[00:47:51] <ryan_turner> I understand, as I've built a 3D printer from scratch
[00:47:58] <GammaX> oh very nice
[00:48:01] <ryan_turner> and now I work for a company that designs and distributes 3D printers
[00:48:09] <ryan_turner> so I can certainly understand the "creep" lol
[00:48:12] <GammaX> it also depends on what kind of accuracy you want to get out of hte machine
[00:48:57] <ryan_turner> I'd love to just use 1.8 degree steppers, leadscrews, and linear rails.
[00:49:13] <GammaX> Once I get enough money from my business and expand I wiant to buld a Large laser cutter or plasma cutter
[00:49:21] <ryan_turner> Chances are though Ill end up with rods and bushings
[00:49:40] <GammaX> ryan_turner, how much initial investment do you want to put into it?
[00:49:52] <ryan_turner> I'd hope to get up and running for about $1.2k
[00:49:56] <ryan_turner> (if I built on my own)
[00:50:04] <ryan_turner> if a kit or something, I'd expect more like $1.5k
[00:50:39] <ryan_turner> I have low specs, so should be able to meet those reasonably easily.
[00:50:45] <GammaX> hmmm, you can buy a lot more of a machine for that price and then piece things together with soe extra cash with steppers for an extra... 300- a lot more depending on what u want.
[00:50:49] <ryan_turner> which gives me tons of options
[00:51:07] <ryan_turner> Is NEMA23 the standard for you guys?
[00:51:13] <ryan_turner> I have a ton of NEMA17 steppers
[00:51:22] <GammaX> luckily for you, you can make your own stepper mounts and such with the 3d printer and then make them in alum once the machine is up and running
[00:51:24] <ryan_turner> like... 8 spares or so
[00:51:31] <GammaX> well...
[00:51:40] <GammaX> this depends on setup...
[00:51:49] <GammaX> I have a bit larger of a hobby machine
[00:51:55] <GammaX> pm45cnc
[00:52:11] <GammaX> how many oz are those steppers?
[00:52:23] <ryan_turner> varying
[00:52:30] <GammaX> whats the range
[00:52:33] <GammaX> or avg...
[00:52:35] <ryan_turner> let me grab the info
[00:52:42] <GammaX> a guestimate is fine...
[00:53:19] <ryan_turner> 76 oz * in
[00:53:24] <GammaX> once thing youll prolly want is a ball screw over lead... lead screw will screw you over with backlash.... and thats no fun BUT you can get by for a bit and tinker with it with a leadscrew
[00:53:52] <GammaX> 76.... hmmm you can prolly get by with a 76 if you go SUPER slow and also have a gear reduction with belt drive.
[00:54:00] <ryan_turner> doh
[00:54:05] <GammaX> I have 570 ounce on x and y and a 1200 nema 34 on the z
[00:54:57] <GammaX> but since you have the 3d printer... you can always test them out on a mount that you create... if too slow or w/e then get some cheap nema 23 from china..
[00:55:29] <ryan_turner> yeah
[00:55:29] <GammaX> http://littlemachineshop.com/3960
[00:55:32] <GammaX> as an example...
[00:56:06] <ryan_turner> Ok, was just told by a machinst friend that 200oz*in is pretty much the minimum
[00:56:28] <GammaX> like I said... its all dependant on what u want....
[00:56:48] <GammaX> if you have a TINY machine... 76ounce may get you by...
[00:56:56] <GammaX> I wouldnt recomend it but its possible! lol
[00:57:54] <GammaX> You can get some quality steppers and drivers from china for cheap. Also with a stepper config and the way your talking.... the parralell port would probably work more than adequate as it would be basicly free....
[00:58:39] <ryan_turner> I dont have a parallel port
[00:58:45] <GammaX> Many people on here use MESANET FPGA anything I/O cards but usually for servos setups.... a card and breakout board is about 250
[00:58:58] <ryan_turner> and I dont have a spare computer. I really dont wanna have to get another computer setup
[00:59:20] <GammaX> http://www.amazon.com/IO-Crest-SY-PCI10004-1-Parallel-32-Bit/dp/B003AVN6AW/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1369892711&sr=8-6&keywords=parallel+port
[01:00:15] <GammaX> the price is going to be A LOT cheaper with parport...
[01:01:50] <GammaX> I know its a lot bigger than what u wanted but for the price... a lot of people buy this for hobby stuff and can even do small production. as long as the accuracy isnt needed to be like .0005
[01:02:10] <ryan_turner> Ok, that should work.
[01:02:12] <GammaX> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Drill-Mill-with-Stand/G0704
[01:02:44] <GammaX> ryan_turner, just make sure you have either a spare pci or pci-e port on your MB and then buy accordingly...
[01:02:44] <ryan_turner> damn thats huge
[01:02:51] <ryan_turner> I live in a 15' x 15' bedroom
[01:02:56] <ryan_turner> in a rented house at college
[01:02:56] <GammaX> lol
[01:02:58] <ryan_turner> I dont have space for that
[01:02:59] <ryan_turner> :P
[01:03:04] <GammaX> then u want a lot smaller like a taig or sieg.
[01:03:14] <ryan_turner> I need something table top
[01:03:20] <GammaX> or as you said... home built...
[01:03:20] <ryan_turner> that I can enclose to catch the mess.
[01:04:11] <GammaX> sieg x2
[01:05:32] <GammaX> http://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_category.php?category=1387807683
[01:06:17] <ryan_turner> Does this typically operate without any sort of endstop or zeroing?
[01:06:37] <ryan_turner> or would you manually position it at the surface and define using code the position it should be in?
[01:07:34] <GammaX> either or, you can even use a probe to send all sides of your workpiece and the machine will auto zero and home...
[01:07:40] <GammaX> linuxcnc is very powerful
[01:08:31] <GammaX> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Mini-Milling-Machine/G8689
[01:09:55] <ryan_turner> That looks like a good price and size
[01:10:07] <GammaX> or this
http://www.harborfreight.com/two-speed-variable-bench-mill-drill-machine-44991.html
[01:10:08] <ryan_turner> So I can picture how I'd print hte mounts for the X and Y
[01:10:11] <GammaX> same thing basicly.
[01:10:27] <ryan_turner> awww yeah
[01:10:30] <ryan_turner> yep, pretty much the same
[01:10:39] <ryan_turner> and Ill just make clones of the parts in case shit breaks
[01:10:48] <GammaX> lol you could
[01:10:54] <GammaX> with better quality stuff...
[01:10:57] <ryan_turner> what would Z motor mounting be like?
[01:11:09] <GammaX> a nice thing to do on these is change out the bearings and make a belt drive.
[01:11:11] <ryan_turner> Just replace the handle bullshit?
[01:11:25] <ryan_turner> belt drive for what?
[01:11:45] <ryan_turner> like a reducer for the steppers?
[01:11:48] <ryan_turner> or for the head?
[01:12:11] <GammaX> belt drive to go from the motor to the quill
[01:12:27] <GammaX> many ways you can do it...
[01:12:38] <GammaX> belt drive off to the side...
[01:12:39] <ryan_turner> to make Z carriage heavier?
[01:12:47] <ryan_turner> quill = ?
[01:12:48] <GammaX> direct drive it with a ztepper
[01:13:19] <GammaX> the part that spins lol
[01:13:21] <GammaX> http://www.hossmachine.info/
[01:13:36] <GammaX> im not a big advicate of this guy but theres a pleather of info on his sites
[01:16:21] <GammaX> so what do you think so far?
[01:17:05] <GammaX> If you buy that sieg you can probably get a hole ball screw kit, steppers and drivers for under 1.2k... and be up and running!
[01:17:19] <ryan_turner> trying to sort out what all of this means lol
[01:17:29] <GammaX> lol ask any questions
[01:17:51] <GammaX> theres usually a lot more people in here during day time too FYI
[01:18:53] <GammaX> the stock speed is about 2k rpms on that thing but with hoss' belt drive conversion you can run at 6k rpm.. a lot more ideal for any type of engraving and pcb milling.
[01:23:02] <GammaX> I think youd be waiting a long time for a harbor freight one by the way... un less somehow a store miraculously had it!
[01:23:08] <GammaX> grizzly stocks them.
[01:24:21] <ryan_turner> I think Im going to go with a smaller taig
[01:25:08] <GammaX> arnt they close to the same price?
[01:27:45] <GammaX> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Taig-gecko-cnc-mill-milling-machine-engraver-router-/151045277752?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232b000838
[01:28:42] <GammaX> it may be smaller but you wont get NEARLY the same amount of rigidity as the sieg.... hense tollerances will be affected quite abit. just go slow while stepping.
[01:30:13] <GammaX> and actually... the taig costsmore! lol
[03:33:13] <RyanS> hmmm, sieg SX2 is $1,040 in Australia and that's not even CNC
[03:45:26] <Valen> went to a woodworking place today
[03:45:29] <Valen> they had CnC machines
[03:45:36] <Valen> $6000 and they were made of plastic
[03:48:24] <Valen> (in sydney)
[03:48:38] <RyanS> yeah I've seen those crappy Routers
[03:53:42] <RyanS> If you're building a cnc mill from scratch do you need a plethora of measurement tools?
[03:53:57] <Valen> not really
[03:54:01] <Valen> well I don't think so
[03:54:20] <Valen> most of the stuff isn't done by "measuring" as such, its not precise enough ;->
[03:54:41] <Valen> ideally you want to go back to the first principles they used to *make* the measuring tools
[03:55:00] <RyanS> How would you line up in the linear slides.... For example
[03:55:26] <Valen> I want to use a laser and a camera
[03:56:36] <RyanS> right you basically analyse the image?
[03:59:01] <Valen> yeah
[03:59:54] <RyanS> is tormach a bit full of it? Their machines are still built in China
[04:00:06] <Valen> never seen one in the flesh
[04:01:24] <RyanS> And no doubt if they are $7k in the US, they will be $14k in Australia
[04:02:00] <Valen> sometimes they aren't insane
[04:06:29] <RyanS> the ATC option price is ABSURD $4k. You could just get a power drawbar and machine your own tool rack at the end of X
[05:28:58] <DJ9DJ> tag
[08:47:17] <Aero-Tec> multi start threading and making feed screws
[08:47:39] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[08:47:58] <Aero-Tec> can that be done with G76?
[08:49:33] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: the G76 has been improved on 2.5.2 are you on this version
[08:50:10] <Aero-Tec> also if one is making feed screws with variable pitch would that be a G33 move only or can one string several G76 together in one move?
[08:50:33] <Aero-Tec> I believe I am
[08:53:37] <Aero-Tec> will be if I am not yet
[08:53:45] <Aero-Tec> 2.5 for sure
[08:54:09] <Aero-Tec> just updated not long ago so should be 2.5.2
[08:56:22] <IchGuckLive> in your case i woudt go forr a chain G33
[08:57:01] <Aero-Tec> so how do you do the multi start?
[08:57:13] <Aero-Tec> move the starting point og the thread?
[08:57:55] <IchGuckLive> is the part Z free or is there a holder against
[08:58:13] <Aero-Tec> so a 2 start thread the start for the second thread would be move .5 of the pitch?
[08:59:02] <IchGuckLive> yes
[08:59:09] <Aero-Tec> have not worked that out for sure yet, but I was thinking it would be z free
[09:00:31] <IchGuckLive> http://www.gewindetechnik-molls.de/technische-erklaerungen.shtml
[09:00:54] <Aero-Tec> thing is for a feed screw with a very coarse pitch not sure if I would have the free z or not, may have to extend the chuck end to make screw and trim later
[09:03:48] <IchGuckLive> a standard one is not usable
[09:05:38] <IchGuckLive> http://maedler.de/product/1643/1620/2030/2043/trapezgewindespindeln-zweigaengig-rechts-stahl-laenge-1m
[09:05:53] <Aero-Tec> IchGuckLive what do you mean by a standard one is not usable?
[09:05:56] <IchGuckLive> TR 12x6 P3
[09:06:09] <IchGuckLive> there are ready made ones cheep
[09:06:25] <IchGuckLive> 1m for 20USD
[09:06:36] <IchGuckLive> = 3'
[09:06:46] <IchGuckLive> 3 feet long
[09:07:06] <IchGuckLive> Tr 16x8 P4
[09:07:36] <Aero-Tec> I am wanting to try and make a plastic extrusion screw
[09:07:47] <IchGuckLive> theese are all Double tread
[09:07:56] <IchGuckLive> ah
[09:08:05] <Aero-Tec> they very in pitch and depth
[09:08:44] <IchGuckLive> so go for a try
[09:08:50] <Aero-Tec> and have very large valleys and small peeks
[09:09:54] <Aero-Tec> I would guess only G33 would work, can one string several G33 together in one long synchronous move?
[09:10:33] <IchGuckLive> i never tryd this
[09:10:55] <IchGuckLive> just do it and look how the mashine acts on this
[09:11:53] <tjtr33> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plastic_extruder_screw.jpg tricky and that pic isnt multi lead
[09:12:39] <Aero-Tec> also by moving the start over a few tho would that allow one to make feed screws with very large valleys?
[09:12:52] <IchGuckLive> long foam dowels do have double tread
[09:14:02] <Aero-Tec> tjtr33, yes that is close to what I am wanting to do, or try
[09:15:14] <Aero-Tec> foam dowels?
[09:15:21] <Aero-Tec> never heard of them
[09:19:15] <L84Supper2> for pining foamboard?
[09:21:04] <IchGuckLive> google picturesearch "styropordübel"
[09:21:35] <IchGuckLive> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31wVBGvpCzL._SS400_.jpg
[09:21:43] <Aero-Tec> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACvRilmIKDQ&feature=related
[09:21:59] <Aero-Tec> this gives me hope as to being able to do it
[09:23:18] <tjtr33> multi lead on linuxcnc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqk2pf2yRwQ
[09:23:50] <tjtr33> and John tapered video, 'just' combine them hedh
[09:25:52] <tjtr33> fusee, not taper
[09:27:40] <tjtr33> ah he varies kxz thru the lookup table, very nice code
[09:28:21] <IchGuckLive> 2 times depth then side
[09:30:02] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive, maybe some money in bone implant screws :)
[09:30:25] <IchGuckLive> there are so many how do this
[09:31:10] <IchGuckLive> teeth scew fixing is a spreding servise
[09:31:29] <IchGuckLive> 20cent the part selling for 25USD
[09:35:15] <IchGuckLive> i uploaded the english gamepad linuxcnc pendand video
http://youtu.be/i0nB1kCrGEc can someone look if sound and HD quali in full screen is readable to the Hal
[09:35:56] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: seems reasonable
[09:36:27] <IchGuckLive> thanks as im from your country it is not the best english
[09:36:40] <Loetmichel> i had an exexexexboss who selled glass drilling amchines. Chinese customer asked if the o-rings on the spindle are regular ones...
[09:37:07] <Loetmichel> "OF COUSTE NOT. Hold it, i will sell you some with an invoice!"
[09:38:08] <Loetmichel> so he sended me out to the hydraulics shop, i bought a pack of 100 rings for about 2,5DM... then he got 4 rings out of the pack, put them in an envelope with an invoice in exeed of 250 DM ;-))
[09:38:22] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: question on you as you are the PRO is the filename on youtube visable to the viewers
[09:38:36] <Loetmichel> no idea
[09:39:06] <Loetmichel> iirc the standard is to use the filemane as title, but i THINK that can be changed
[09:39:39] <tjtr33> nice little AB trunnion cutting ceramic fro implants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JSzuA9mcyXE#!
[09:40:58] <IchGuckLive> 25k USD
[09:41:11] <IchGuckLive> at 0.001mm
[09:42:26] <IchGuckLive> there are so many of this around all the same stuff
[09:43:15] <IchGuckLive> on 40k you can get the scanner includet and full automated with part placing and nesting
[09:44:57] <IchGuckLive> maybe we will see a cnc milling in a real humen mouth , in our livetime
[09:45:18] <IchGuckLive> ok im off till later
[09:49:14] <DJ9DJ> re
[09:50:37] <tjtr33> IchGuckLive: nice video on the joypad, nice to see all the pieces in one place. yeah i know you left, but thx
[09:59:59] <Aero-Tec> yes it is a nice vid
[11:15:17] <tjtr33> stereolithography meets sci-fi , the Nanofax machine from William Gibson's All Tomorrow's Parties
http://tinyurl.com/lgpcucc
[11:17:31] <tjtr33> (found looking at the Cybaman Replicator a real but mis-named ABC axis
http://www.cybamantech.co.uk/res/img/custom/cybamanr_lg.jpg
[11:49:09] <ssi> ISE is such a pig
[11:50:53] <Tom_itx> just like avr studio
[11:58:58] <pcw_home> At least they dumped the binary project file, that was a major pain when it (predictably) got broken
[11:59:09] <ssi> yeah
[11:59:25] <ssi> this is like the fourth time I've had to download and install it
[11:59:25] <ssi> heh
[11:59:42] <willburrrr2003> good Morning all :)
[11:59:51] <ssi> what sucks is I run SSDs in my computers as a rule, adn the ISE download is like a tenth of my TOTAL hard drive
[12:00:07] <pcw_home> After some point I gave up on downloads and just ordered the DVD
[12:01:15] <ssi> probably wise
[12:01:24] <ssi> well one download was because I accidentally got "vivado" instead
[12:02:51] <willburrrr2003> I figured out my ngcgui issue Tuesday night, the error was because it did not like the courior font.... I switched it to helvitica and it loaded right up without issues
[12:03:10] <JT-Shop> fonts can be a pain
[12:03:25] <JT-Shop> another good reason to change one thing at a time :)
[12:03:52] * JT-Shop wanders inside for some chow
[12:04:47] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:14:15] <PetefromTn> Hello everyone..
[12:14:21] <IchGuckLive> hi
[12:14:29] <PetefromTn> hey ich..
[12:14:41] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: did your naighbour connect you
[12:14:57] <PetefromTn> huh? connect me to what?
[12:16:26] <PetefromTn> IchGuckLive Not sure what you mean man. How are you?
[12:18:02] <IchGuckLive> there has been a person in your naibourhood that woudt do a cnc with linux and woudt like to talk to you
[12:18:23] <PetefromTn> oh really who?
[12:19:47] <IchGuckLive> trying to search the logs for you
[12:20:17] <PetefromTn> as long as it is not r00t2d3d fella I am willing to meet other CNC'ers LOL.
[12:21:05] <jthornton> lol
[12:21:12] <willburrrr2003> does anyone have a source for the ngcgui lathe files, I lost the help files for mine somewhere along the upgrades I have done
[12:21:38] <jthornton> help files?
[12:21:43] <archivist> lost!, miss laid more like
[12:21:47] <PetefromTn> Connor hey man ya there?
[12:22:13] <Connor> PetefromTn: For about 20 seconds.. about to head out for lunch
[12:22:25] <willburrrr2003> maybey not the right wording, they are more like pic files that show the various elements for the routine and some had a brief description of operation
[12:22:27] <PetefromTn> howzitgoin?
[12:22:55] <willburrrr2003> they showed up on some routines next to the other window where you put the parameters in
[12:22:57] <IchGuckLive> ryan_turner: pete
[12:23:15] <jthornton> did you get the ngcgui subroutines from my web site?
[12:23:34] <IchGuckLive> !seen ryan_turner:
[12:23:34] <the_wench> Never heard of the entity you ask for
[12:23:46] <IchGuckLive> !seen ryan_turner
[12:23:46] <the_wench> Never heard of the entity you ask for
[12:23:49] <PetefromTn> hmm... What did he say, does he live near knoxvegas?
[12:24:09] <willburrrr2003> I got them a couple yearts ago from JTshop and Bigjohn
[12:24:57] <jthornton> they are still on my web site then :)
[12:25:19] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: just hit his nick in the sidelist and give him a messege
[12:25:19] <ryan_turner> Hey!
[12:25:27] <willburrrr2003> Jthornton > ok, what is your website
[12:25:27] <IchGuckLive> here it is
[12:25:28] <ryan_turner> Damn, you're in knoxville?
[12:25:29] <Connor> PetefromTn: Not to good at the moment. Allergies + Bronchitis
[12:25:29] <PetefromTn> Hey!
[12:25:38] <jthornton> gnipsel dot com
[12:25:45] <PetefromTn> Connor My wife is home sick today too sucks..
[12:26:08] <PetefromTn> ryan_turner Yeah man no I am in Maryville..
[12:26:24] <ryan_turner> ouch, opposite end
[12:26:26] <ryan_turner> Im in Memphis
[12:26:34] <archivist> jthornton, why you hide the url, more links from the logs are useful in improving search results
[12:26:36] <PetefromTn> Yeah that might as well be LA.
[12:26:42] <ryan_turner> yep
[12:27:00] <jthornton> archivist, dunno why just a habit I guess
[12:27:05] <jthornton> www.gnipsel.com
[12:27:18] <Connor> PetefromTn: Sorry to hear that.. I'm out the door.. back in a while.
[12:27:22] <jthornton> wee that works
[12:27:24] <PetefromTn> Connor Cya...
[12:27:41] <PetefromTn> ryan_turner what did you want to know about man?
[12:27:54] <ryan_turner> I dont know jack about cnc mills
[12:27:58] <ryan_turner> but I'd like to build one.
[12:28:03] <PetefromTn> LOL me neither...
[12:28:09] <PetefromTn> What kinda mill?
[12:28:11] <archivist> jthornton, I would call it legal SEO :)
[12:28:14] <ryan_turner> Talked to a few of my associates about it yesterday night and seemed that I have two good routes
[12:28:24] <ryan_turner> either get an X2 and make it CNC
[12:28:25] <willburrrr2003> jthornton, there is only one ngcgui routine there for OD radius?
[12:28:44] <ryan_turner> or buy a fireball v90 and plan to go slow but make my own in time.
[12:28:58] <ryan_turner> the fireball route would be much faster and cheaper for me to do
[12:28:58] <PetefromTn> just a hobby then?
[12:29:12] <ryan_turner> Yeah
[12:29:18] <ryan_turner> For work I play with 3D printers
[12:29:20] <jthornton> willburrrr2003, I see one OD and one taper OD
[12:29:24] <ryan_turner> but that's totally different
[12:29:37] <jdh> I thought the fireball was a router
[12:29:45] <ryan_turner> jdh, yeah, something like 4" z travel
[12:29:48] <PetefromTn> Personally I have no use for the tiny machines but if it is just for fun hey why not..
[12:29:58] <jthornton> are you on this page?
http://www.gnipsel.com/shop/hardinge/hardinge.xhtml
[12:30:00] <ryan_turner> PetefromTn, my main use is machining PCBs and aluminum plates.
[12:30:13] <jdh> two completely different tasks
[12:30:15] <ryan_turner> and playing with wood would be cool too, I want to get into wood working when I get more space.
[12:30:20] <PetefromTn> then if you want to machine aluminum plates you need a mill not a router...
[12:30:35] <ryan_turner> PetefromTn, I was told that the router would do aluminum just be much slower at it
[12:30:42] * jthornton thinks a nap is in order now
[12:30:44] <ryan_turner> and not an officially supported thing
[12:30:59] <PetefromTn> sure can and you can file a boat from a hunk of steel...
[12:31:07] <ryan_turner> lol
[12:31:25] <ryan_turner> Well, if I went the X2 route, what would you recommend?
[12:31:42] <willburrrr2003> jthornton , no I am on the one linked under your linuxcnc page
[12:31:44] <ryan_turner> I've tried to look at that, but there are too many damn variants and people saying that ones better than the other etc etc
[12:31:52] <ryan_turner> and to my eyes I dont see the differences.
[12:31:56] <PetefromTn> I would not recommend the X2 at all...
[12:32:23] <ryan_turner> PetefromTn, ok. Total machine with no tooling, $1,400 shipped. What could I do?
[12:32:38] <PetefromTn> Honestly having built an RF45 and now CNC'd my Cincinatti Arrow 500 VMC I am of the opinion that if you want a CNC, then buy a CNC.
[12:32:42] <willburrrr2003> jthornton, now I see them all :) , Thanks
[12:32:52] <ryan_turner> ah
[12:33:04] <PetefromTn> I would look for something like a used benchtop CNC mill that is ALREADY CNC.
[12:33:14] <pcw_home> Man, cnczone is really borked
[12:33:29] <ryan_turner> PetefromTn, okie dokie
[12:33:44] <PetefromTn> There are some quite fine german made CNC mills that you can pick up for cheap with older controls that you can easily retrofit
[12:34:04] <PetefromTn> Or perhaps a Taig CNC mill or similar..
[12:34:23] <PetefromTn> pcw_home Don't even get me started on CNCzone problems..
[12:36:24] <PetefromTn> ryan_turner perhaps something like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdrFHbUUUKE
[12:37:17] <PetefromTn> or this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZbK2Xx8gNY
[12:57:30] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: the terco is to slow he needs speed
[12:57:50] <IchGuckLive> what if you give him a hint for some cheep rails
[12:58:20] <IchGuckLive> a standard leadshine or gecko kit
[12:58:33] <IchGuckLive> c10 BOB
[12:58:43] <IchGuckLive> thats all hee needs
[12:58:53] <IchGuckLive> homedepo fram
[12:58:58] <IchGuckLive> e
[13:00:03] <PetefromTn> lol...
[13:00:48] <IchGuckLive> for pcb its good to go
[13:01:26] <PetefromTn> IchGuckLive Why do you say the terco is slow, seen a couple vids on them cutting plastic etc...
[13:02:57] <IchGuckLive> not more then 1500mm/min 65ipm
[13:03:09] <IchGuckLive> on standard pitch
[13:03:57] <PetefromTn> with new motors and drives I bet we could IMPROVE that LOL.
[13:06:35] <IchGuckLive> agree iv seen ballbearing treads also
[13:07:40] <PetefromTn> Honestly the point I was trying to make was that it is MUCH easier to retrofit a machine that is ALREADY CNC then one that is not. And usually the results are better.
[13:08:46] <IchGuckLive> agree also but its a small place he got and only wants to try out this so its worth to talk about minimum requirermente
[13:09:07] <IchGuckLive> sbr12 12" at 60usd
[13:10:04] <IchGuckLive> or even the heavy stuff sbr20 same prce 2 rails
[13:10:45] <IchGuckLive> from vancouver
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-20mm-SBR20-305mm-12-FULLY-SUPPORTED-LINEAR-RAIL-SHAFT-ROD-4-SBR20UU-/151051196265?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item232b5a5769
[13:11:13] <IchGuckLive> so 180USD for all the stuff
[13:11:54] <IchGuckLive> Yon X Z fix
[13:12:07] <IchGuckLive> one table and done
[13:12:15] <IchGuckLive> some plywood 1
[13:13:09] <IchGuckLive> http://stores.ebay.com/VXB-Bearings-Skateboard-and-Slotcar?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 at your driving range
[13:14:31] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: this is the most expensive shop ive ever seen
[13:15:02] <IchGuckLive> standart LM20UU 10pc 710USD in china its 36USD
[13:17:10] <PetefromTn> what is the most expensive shop youve ever seen?
[13:17:36] <PetefromTn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmpYBtwLSnk
[13:17:42] <PetefromTn> this is also a nice small machine.
[13:18:20] <IchGuckLive> vbx bearing
[13:24:26] <IchGuckLive> PetefromTn: the mashine is 9k euros
[13:24:32] <IchGuckLive> http://www.exapro.de.com/dyna-metronics-dyna-mite-2800-cnc-frasmaschine-vertikal-p20320266/
[13:24:53] <IchGuckLive> from 1993
[13:32:09] <IchGuckLive> im off By
[13:52:05] <tjtr33> PetefromTn,
http://tinyurl.com/mxmfjg2 cnc atc pallet chgr too some tooling & visit a great cnc boneyard in Cleveland
[13:53:29] <PetefromTn> tjtr33 Hey man that is interesting. I am unfortunately TOTALLY broke right now.
[13:54:00] <PetefromTn> Could definitely use some Cat40 toolholders tho.
[13:54:19] <PetefromTn> Still have not found the cash for a 3/4 inch one to hold my new electronic edge finder.
[13:59:40] <JT-Shop> what do you use the edge finder for?
[14:00:05] <PetefromTn> JT-Shop is this a serious question LOL?
[14:00:06] <cradek> HGR is awesome but half their stuff looks like it was dropped off a forklift
[14:00:19] <PetefromTn> cradek Agreed..
[14:01:04] <cradek> PetefromTn: been to CTR? different kind of place but at least as awesome
[14:01:35] <JT-Shop> PetefromTn: yep
[14:01:44] <PetefromTn> cradek What is CTR besides a religous reference...LOL?
[14:01:51] <cradek> http://ctrsurplus.com/
[14:01:56] <cradek> also in OH
[14:01:59] <PetefromTn> JT-Shop Well to find the edge of course...
[14:02:34] <JT-Shop> I never use an edge finder, I set the edge with a dowel in the spindle... much faster
[14:02:51] <PetefromTn> This one is actually able to set Z as well all with one tool.
[14:03:21] <cradek> JT-Shop: you can't zero on a corner that way can you? an edgefinder can do that (in two steps)
[14:04:04] <PetefromTn> well yeah you can, once in X and once in Y I suppose using paper between or something.
[14:04:11] <JT-Shop> no, but the Y edge of the rear jaw in the vise is already set to 0 when I home so I only need to set X0 and find Z0
[14:04:32] <PetefromTn> JT-Shop Thats true.
[14:04:56] <JT-Shop> I understand remaching you might need to use an edge finder to find a feature on a part
[14:05:20] <cradek> I'm all for only using them when necessary - they're a bit tedious
[14:05:30] <cradek> wiggler is worse but more flexible
[14:05:32] <jdh> isn't the dowel just a rigid edge finder
[14:05:45] <PetefromTn> I'd like to make this my tool number zero for setting everything.
[14:05:48] <cradek> I assume he means he pushes the work against the dowel and then tightens the vise
[14:05:53] <PetefromTn> jdh yup/
[14:05:55] <JT-Shop> so I put the 1/2 dowel in the spindle and move to a point and call it X0.25 and slide the material up to the dowel
[14:06:09] <JT-Shop> cradek: yep
[14:06:31] <cradek> it's just a kind of work stop
[14:06:38] <cradek> you could also put one on the vise
[14:06:50] <PetefromTn> I like vise stops...
[14:07:15] <JT-Shop> I do put one in the vise if I have more than one part to make and slide it up to the material
[14:07:24] <PetefromTn> honestly I need the edge finder to hopefully very accurately pickup the vise corner so I can use them.
[14:09:12] <JT-Shop> I use the edge finder once to find Y0 on the vise but have not found the X edge of the jaw to be of any use for setup
[14:09:55] <cradek> sometimes I'll put work against the X edge (using a 123 block as a flat)
[14:10:01] <cradek> but, eh
[14:10:21] <PetefromTn> thats what I do a lot...
[14:10:44] <JT-Shop> I usually center the material in my vise(s)
[14:11:54] <PetefromTn> How do you center it?
[14:12:11] <cradek> it just has to be near the center (over the screw)
[14:13:04] <JT-Shop> say my material is 4" wide, I put the 1/2" dowel in the spindle and move to X6.75 (center of right vise is 4.5) and jog down then slide the material up to the dowel
[14:15:06] <JT-Shop> in LinuxCNC I just eyeball the dowel and slide the material up to the dowel and touch off to X0.25
[14:15:21] <PetefromTn> JT-Shop Okay I see.. Like I said once the vise offsets are accurately input then you can certainly rely on these methods.
[14:16:12] <JT-Shop> you only need the Y
[14:17:40] <JT-Shop> the X0 will vary with the part
[14:19:25] <PetefromTn> agreed, I almost strictly use CadCam for my machining unless it is just drill a hole or machine a slot or surface something...
[14:23:01] <JT-Shop> I do as well, and position the part in the CAM program to suit the machine I'm using.
[14:24:17] <PetefromTn> JT-Shop Yup thats what I do. Basically draw the part with the material included and make the corner of the material the zero point..generally anyways..
[14:26:36] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, what do you set your z to?
[14:34:20] <JT-Shop> top of the material usually
[15:35:20] <GammaX-Shop> Hey guys
[15:48:57] <GammaX-Shop> Tom_itx: you on?
[15:57:38] <alpha1125> .iH
[15:57:54] <alpha1125> sdrawkcab gnipyt m I wohemos ...ftwnA
[15:58:35] <alpha1125> Hi.
[15:58:41] <alpha1125> now I'm typing normally again.
[15:58:58] <alpha1125> Anyone able to validate a simple circuit?
http://imgur.com/ApAPiHG
[15:59:39] <PCW> you probably want a diode across the solenoid coil
[15:59:57] <DJ9DJ> yeah, freewheeling diode ftw
[16:00:06] <alpha1125> freewheeling?
[16:00:06] <DJ9DJ> extends the transistors lifetime ;)
[16:00:13] <alpha1125> I was thinking a zenoid or something
[16:00:49] <alpha1125> what's the diode going to do in this circuit? I know what diodes do, but not in this case… diodes allow current flow in one direction only.
[16:00:57] <PCW> A normal diode will do if you dont need fast release times
[16:01:09] <DJ9DJ> sorry, what is a zenoid?
[16:01:26] <alpha1125> zener
[16:01:31] <alpha1125> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zener_diode (my bad)
[16:01:32] <PCW> sounds like science fiction to me
[16:01:39] <DJ9DJ> the diode should protect the transistor from high voltages induced by the solenoid
[16:01:48] <DJ9DJ> ah!
[16:01:58] <DJ9DJ> nope, no zener diode, just a normal one
[16:02:46] <alpha1125> well, I have some 1amp zener diodes in a box… probably will work just fine? (that's a question)
[16:03:34] <DJ9DJ> hmm, depends on the zener voltage of these diodes...
[16:03:43] <DJ9DJ> should be higher than your 12 volts
[16:03:49] <PCW> if its high voltage then the 12V it might work but a normal 1n4001 is better
[16:04:54] <PCW> sometimes zeners are use for higher speed operation but you need back-back zeners or zener+normal diode for that
[16:05:07] <DJ9DJ> http://www.siongboon.com/projects/2006-06-19_switch/flyback_diode.gif
[16:07:01] <alpha1125> DJ9DJ the diode is reversed?
[16:07:11] <alpha1125> is that diode reversed?or proper direction?
[16:07:33] <alpha1125> agh… now that makes sense…. cause the way I'm thinking of it.
[16:07:58] <alpha1125> it's the current bouncing back, it has a place to go… through the diode, back into the solenoid.
[16:08:21] <DJ9DJ> of course, during normal operation, the diode must block
[16:08:29] <alpha1125> yes.
[16:08:33] <DJ9DJ> yeah, thats the idea
[16:08:36] <alpha1125> I think I have a bunch of these in a drawer
[16:08:36] <alpha1125> 1N4004
[16:08:56] <DJ9DJ> if you switch the solenoid off, the current can flow through the diode and does not do any harm
[16:09:03] <alpha1125> can I have these near the NPN, or should these be as close as possible to the solenoid?
[16:09:16] <DJ9DJ> otherwise, you might get a high voltage across the transistor, which might kill your npn
[16:09:24] <andypugh> For protecting relays from motors an H-bridges can be useful (in the case of a reversible motor)
[16:09:42] <alpha1125> andypugh good call, but these are solenoids (on/off).
[16:09:50] <alpha1125> albeit cheap ones from china...
[16:10:21] <DJ9DJ> best would be to place the diode directly across the solenoid
[16:14:12] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:15:05] <DJ9DJ> good night, gents
[16:29:36] <alpha1125> Nice, in the draw I had some TIP121, and 1N4001. Now I need to find my bread board, and tinker.
[16:29:39] <alpha1125> drawer*
[16:36:58] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZDxcuumsvs
[16:45:03] <GammaX-Shop> ok i tried adding in this to my parport configged hal file and got encoder.0 not found.
http://pastebin.com/yaBhC0J1
[16:48:12] <GammaX-Shop> any help?
[16:49:44] <andypugh> what does dmesg say?
[16:50:16] <cradek> have a look at the manpage, or use halcmd show, to see what the FUNCTIONS are
[16:50:24] <cradek> you've guessed encoder.0 but that is incorrect
[16:50:44] <PetefromTn> sounds like a game show host LOL..
[16:51:09] <andypugh> 00004 fc98c164 fc9450b8 YES 0 encoder.capture-position
[16:51:10] <andypugh> 00004 fc98c000 fc9450b8 NO 0 encoder.update-counters
[16:51:40] <andypugh> All encoders share a pair of functions, one for the base thread and one for the servile thread
[16:51:58] <GammaX-Shop> lol
[16:53:26] <GammaX-Shop> cradek: that code was made by someone else.. and actually checked by someone differant than that person lol
[16:53:26] <skunkworks> GammaX-Shop: there was a discussion with tom about this last nigh
[16:53:29] <skunkworks> night
[16:53:36] <GammaX-Shop> skunkworks: yeah he made my code haha
[16:53:47] <skunkworks> right - and it had some problems ;)
[16:54:08] <andypugh> Random clustered round me I have a 7i73, RPi and BBB. Aren't RJ45 connectors huge by the standards of everything else nowadays?
[16:54:08] <GammaX-Shop> apparently so haha
[16:54:12] <GammaX-Shop> way to go! Tom_itx
[16:54:38] <skunkworks> eh - tom uses real interface hardware ;)
[16:55:07] <GammaX-Shop> I wish i had some money to buy mesa stuff :(
[16:55:20] <PetefromTn> Mesa is real nice stuff..
[16:56:04] <andypugh> Given 5 pins on a device that I know to be Hall sensors + 5V + gnd, how can I figure out which is which?
[16:56:07] <GammaX-Shop> I had a 5i20 with break out boards and my step mother through them out..... along with my supermax tht it was connected too!
[16:56:37] <PetefromTn> how does a stepmother throw out a supermax mill?
[16:56:39] <andypugh> Yikes! And Cinderalla thought hers was wicked!
[16:56:54] <PetefromTn> talk about wicked stepmother...
[16:57:00] <PetefromTn> Cruella deville.
[16:57:37] <GammaX-Shop> PetefromTn: a step mother calls a tow truck. Tow truck pulls machine out of garage and loads it on its ramp--- => Trailer.Thrown.out
[16:57:59] <PetefromTn> jeez that's a determined woman.
[16:58:37] <GammaX-Shop> yeah man.... I had it there for storage and apparently she didnt like it....
[16:58:45] <andypugh> I am guessign that this didn't happen completely without warning, or on a whim?
[16:59:24] <GammaX-Shop> andypugh: apparently an email was sent out 3 days prior I didnt get the email till 3 weeks after it was taken...
[17:00:30] <GammaX-Shop> And im actually telling the truth with this one.... I couldnt believe it...
[17:01:23] <PetefromTn> Did she at least sell the damn thing and give you some cash back for it?
[17:02:13] <GammaX-Shop> no they had it brought to a recycling facility.... where they got 300 dollars for it and that money went back into repairing the driveway with the way it was dragged out.
[17:02:51] <PetefromTn> Sounds like somebody needs a pad of their own, preferrably with a nice sized garage.
[17:03:32] <GammaX-Shop> PetefromTn: I was deployed overseas....
[17:03:41] <GammaX-Shop> no point in havnig a pad lol
[17:03:43] <PetefromTn> Oh the humanity...
[17:07:54] <GammaX-Shop> jthornton: tornados hitting ur house again? Sat Internet sucks! I had it once... Oh the horror
[17:08:20] <GammaX-Shop> cradek: any thoughts on what the function would be?
[17:09:02] <skunkworks> GammaX-Shop:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/man/man9/encoder.9.html
[17:10:55] <andypugh> GammaX-Shop: I already listed the functions.
[17:11:21] <GammaX-Shop> andypugh: just confused on where to put them...
[17:11:24] <Tom_itx> GammaX-Shop, i had no way to test the code
[17:11:35] <GammaX-Shop> Tom_itx: Haha its all good brother.
[17:11:37] <Tom_itx> but i thought i'd get you headed in a direction
[17:12:05] <andypugh> addf the "YES" one to the servo thread and the NO one to the base thread.
[17:18:02] <JT-Shop-2> just some weather atm
[17:21:17] <PetefromTn> JT-Shop Hopefully just a thunderstorm and not the T word...
[17:22:40] <JT-Shop> yea I don't see any red on radar atm
[17:24:00] <PetefromTn> Well thats good.
[17:28:55] <GammaX-Shop> andypugh: changed what you said and got, 110: setp requires 2 arguments,3 iven. (I have setp parport.1.pin-13-in => 3 encoder.0.phase-A
[17:30:08] <GammaX-Shop> there is no 3in there^^
[17:41:08] <GammaX-Shop> Tom_itx: anythoughts on that one? ^^
[17:41:11] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop we just got rain
[17:41:22] <Tom_itx> same storm you're gettin probably
[17:41:27] <JT-Shop> just a few drops here
[17:41:36] <Tom_itx> sunny now
[17:41:47] <GammaX-Shop> everyone should move to denver
[17:42:18] <Tom_itx> remove the 3
[17:42:40] <Tom_itx> setp parport.1.pin-13-in => encoder.0.phase-A
[17:42:46] <PetefromTn> Denver is a beautiful city..
[17:44:39] <PCW> also lose the =>
[17:45:04] <Tom_itx> naw add a couple more
[17:45:20] <Tom_itx> helps the signal get there better
[17:45:28] <PCW> they are ignored on net commands but bollix up setp commands
[17:48:02] <Tom_itx> not so consistent
[17:52:04] <Tom_itx> is that documented somewhere?
[17:52:52] <GammaX-Shop> Tom_itx: PCW it now just has an error saying (parameter or pin 'parport.1.pin-13-in' not found
[17:53:32] <Tom_itx> how many parports do you have?
[17:53:39] <Tom_itx> if 1 then change it to .0.
[17:53:52] <Tom_itx> which parport is it on?
[17:54:21] <GammaX-Shop> 0
[17:54:23] <GammaX-Shop> only 1
[17:54:24] <Tom_itx> is 13 allowed as input
[17:54:28] <Tom_itx> change it to 0 then
[17:55:02] <GammaX-Shop> lol i did and now its saying that pin parport.0.pin-13-in is not writable...
[17:58:29] <GammaX-Shop> according to my bob layout pin 13 is used for axis A limit switch
[18:03:32] <andypugh> You want "net" not "setP
[18:03:53] <andypugh> And you need a signal name.
[18:05:01] <Tom_itx> woops
[18:05:10] <GammaX-Shop> hrmm
[18:05:57] <Tom_itx> net spindle-encoder parport.1.pin-13-in => encoder.0.phase-A
[18:06:05] <Tom_itx> net spindle-encoder parport.0.pin-13-in => encoder.0.phase-A
[18:25:34] <GammaX-Shop> anyone know how I can link the rps to the spindle speed on main program
[18:27:33] <andypugh> What are you trying to do?
[18:28:01] <GammaX-Shop> link the encoder I just created in hal tp th spinde speed graph on front of terminal in linuxcnc
[18:29:11] <andypugh> net sp-sp emcoder.0.velocity-rpm pyvcp.spindle-speed. Or something.
[18:29:32] <andypugh> What is the spindle speed graph called in HAL?
[18:29:58] <andypugh> (Oh, and the connection needs to go in the postgui halfile)
[18:30:50] <GammaX-Shop> andypugh: im not getting any feedback from spindle-rpm.... only rps....
[18:31:02] <GammaX-Shop> this is while watching inside half config
[18:31:32] <andypugh> In the watch window?
[18:31:45] <GammaX-Shop> yup
[18:31:53] <andypugh> Looking at pins, or signals?
[18:32:21] <GammaX-Shop> signals
[18:32:30] <Tom_itx> i did mine that way
[18:32:31] <andypugh> Well stop it
[18:32:35] <Tom_itx> the hal files are on my site
[18:32:45] <Tom_itx> pyvcp
[18:33:17] <GammaX-Shop> lol
[18:33:38] <andypugh> Look at the pins. The signal names are complely arbitrary, and we can't even guess what they might be.
[18:33:50] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/screenshot.png
[18:34:17] <andypugh> I am going to hazard a guess that this is a stepconf setup, so even youhave no idea what your config is.
[18:34:23] <GammaX-Shop> andypugh: pins shows same
[18:34:27] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/
[18:34:31] <Tom_itx> there's the files
[18:34:48] <GammaX-Shop> andypugh: it is stepconfig'ed but modified.
[18:34:56] <Tom_itx> display.xml, postgui.hal
[18:35:11] <Tom_itx> and maybe sherline.hal
[18:35:17] <Tom_itx> for the signal
[18:36:45] <Tom_itx> net spindle-rpm <= scale.0.out
[18:36:51] <Tom_itx> is the signal i used to display
[18:37:12] <andypugh> Have you set the encoder scale?
[18:37:23] <Tom_itx> me?
[18:37:27] <Tom_itx> or GammaX
[18:37:38] <andypugh> Him
[18:37:57] <GammaX-Shop> I did yes
[18:37:59] <Tom_itx> i had a line in my original pastebin for that but i didn't know his resolution
[18:38:11] <andypugh> If you are _only_ using the encoder for spindle speed display then you can just lie about the scale to get rpm.
[18:38:15] <Tom_itx> so i set it to 48 which was mine
[18:38:40] <GammaX-Shop> setp encoder.0.position-scale 6
[18:38:56] <andypugh> And how many slots do you have?
[18:39:00] <GammaX-Shop> 6
[18:39:15] <andypugh> Ah, you can't really lie about scale then.
[18:39:30] <GammaX-Shop> its a photomicrosensor that is pointed at the splines on the shaft of my quill
[18:39:46] <andypugh> OK, so counter mode?
[18:39:56] <GammaX-Shop> yup
[18:39:57] <Tom_itx> i ran that thru scale then to the display
[18:40:09] <andypugh> And encoder.0.position is counting up?
[18:40:41] <andypugh> As Tom says, you need a scale function too to get rpm.
[18:40:52] <GammaX-Shop> yup
[18:40:58] <Tom_itx> and i set setp scale.0.gain 60.00
[18:43:07] <Tom_itx> then take the scale output to the pyvcp function
[18:44:12] <GammaX-Shop> I wish I was good enough to code a program that would ask you all these little questions during setup....
[18:44:46] <Tom_itx> that would take all the fun outta customizing
[18:45:26] <GammaX-Shop> but would stop people like me from asking dumb questions! lol
[18:45:37] <Tom_itx> it's a good review for all
[18:47:10] <Tom_itx> anybody still using crt for display?
[18:47:17] <GammaX-Shop> well lets continue the review haha I added in all commands and still not getting any type of rpm on the main windows.. just a green lite saying spindle at speed.
[18:47:42] <Tom_itx> did you add a .xml file?
[18:47:50] <GammaX-Shop> no
[18:48:01] <Tom_itx> did you add a postgui file?
[18:48:11] <GammaX-Shop> already had one
[18:48:21] <Tom_itx> did you tell the ini where it was?
[18:48:25] <Tom_itx> the postgui
[18:48:33] <Tom_itx> probably did
[18:48:36] <Tom_itx> since you had one
[18:48:42] <GammaX-Shop> I believe they were all setup automaticly
[18:48:51] <Tom_itx> look at my files and see how i set it up
[18:48:59] <Tom_itx> look at the postgui and display.xml
[18:49:11] <Tom_itx> did you see my screenshot?
[18:49:18] <GammaX-Shop> nope
[18:49:32] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/screenshot.png
[18:49:45] <Tom_itx> you can pick a different style widget if you want
[18:50:39] <Tom_itx> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/pyvcp.html
[18:58:32] <GammaX-Shop> Tom_itx: lol thats pretty awsome
[19:22:10] <L84Supper2> nice control panel builder, but I didn't see a Magic 8 Ball widget
[19:24:13] <L84Supper2> our enclosure parts showed up yesterday, I'm just assuming that fabricator thought that the tolerances were all +- 10mm :)
[19:24:29] <Tom_itx> heh could be like NASA
[19:27:29] <L84Supper2> the acrylic was even worse, off by over 1"
[21:37:25] <atom1> network works at least
