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[02:02:54] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:17:22] <r00t4rd3d> only for you
[02:43:58] <erasmo> hi all
[02:44:15] <erasmo> Is it possible using linuxcnc to do point following in machine with rotary table??
[02:52:23] <archivist> what do you mean by point following
[02:55:58] <erasmo> I have machine that have horizontal rotating table, so when I put workpeace on the table and home the machine set my coordinating system to zero according to workpeace
[02:56:51] <erasmo> then when I rotate the table I wish that the x,y,z will follow the set point of coordinating system
[02:58:00] <archivist> yes there is a vid on youtube showing the centre being eccentric on a rotary
[02:58:46] <erasmo> do you remember what name of that vid was?
[03:01:17] <archivist> this one I just found shows a 5 axis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjPCEpZybXs
[03:01:34] <archivist> with the kins you need
[03:02:38] <erasmo> yes thats it! thank you very much archivist :))
[06:17:06] <jthornton> anyone else notice that weather.gov has disappeared?
[06:44:02] <cncbasher> works fine here JT
[06:44:38] <DJ9DJ> jup, works here, too
[06:44:41] <skunkworks> ditto
[06:45:39] <cncbasher> JT lives in a black hole
[06:53:21] <jthornton> I must be in a black hole or one protected by a satellite
[06:55:28] <jthornton> Firefox can't find the server at weather.gov.
[06:59:16] <DJ9DJ> try
http://204.227.127.201/
[06:59:53] <jthornton> same result
[07:00:01] <DJ9DJ> hmm, strange
[07:00:11] <DJ9DJ> you got hacked! ;)
[07:00:17] <jthornton> that's what I said
[07:00:29] <jthornton> all 6 computers?
[07:01:03] <R2E4_awy> Theres got to be a router broke in the path.
[07:01:22] <DJ9DJ> or censorship ;)
[07:01:36] <DJ9DJ> do you route via china? ;)
[07:01:43] <jthornton> a local router?
[07:01:47] <R2E4_awy> hehe, What did you do to the government?\
[07:01:57] <R2E4_awy> Did you pay your taxes?
[07:02:04] <jthornton> it's a satellite connection
[07:02:10] <jthornton> no, it's not time
[07:02:32] <DJ9DJ> hehe
[07:02:52] <R2E4_awy> probably not a local router but a router down the line in your path
[07:03:17] <DJ9DJ> hmm, traceroute...
[07:03:26] <R2E4_awy> yeah traceroute
[07:05:16] <ProxDem> jthornton: are you running on a linux os or windows?
[07:05:28] <jthornton> both
[07:05:47] <ProxDem> jthornton: under linux in a terminal emulator type host weather.gov
[07:05:54] <ProxDem> under winbloze type nslookup weather.gov
[07:06:13] <ProxDem> first lets see if your Domain Name Servers resolve it correctly
[07:06:41] <DJ9DJ> thats why I wrote a working (for me) IP above
[07:06:51] <ProxDem> yes but the IP method will not always work
[07:06:59] <ProxDem> if the server is using VirtualDomains
[07:07:02] <DJ9DJ> hm k
[07:07:10] <ProxDem> and if it is and you went via the Name and then the IP
[07:07:13] * DJ9DJ is not network specialist
[07:07:23] <ProxDem> the server recognizes you and defaults to your last Domain Name based request
[07:07:38] <jthornton> can't find server name for address 192.168.0.1
[07:07:46] <jthornton> default servers are not available
[07:07:50] <jthornton> \server: unkown
[07:07:55] <ProxDem> jthornton: then your box that is acting as your DNS is br0ken
[07:08:05] <DJ9DJ> seems that you have no dns :D
[07:08:10] <jthornton> need to reboot them?
[07:08:17] <ProxDem> I would reboot 192.168.0.1 yes
[07:08:18] <ProxDem> or
[07:08:28] <ProxDem> you can specify opendns or your ISPs dns directly in your configs
[07:09:08] <ProxDem> in linux it's in /etc/resolv.conf
[07:09:13] <ProxDem> nameserver IPofyourDNS
[07:09:33] <ProxDem> or just reboot the router and hope it's DNS functionality just for some reason b0rked
[07:09:40] <ProxDem> jthornton: only one down side to rebooting your router
[07:09:48] <jthornton> easier to just reboot everything, I have 5 linux computers and 2 windoze computers
[07:09:52] <ProxDem> if your DNS is b0rked and rebooting doesn't work
[07:09:58] <ProxDem> you will not be able to come back here
[07:10:13] <R2E4_awy> restart the dns
[07:10:29] <R2E4_awy> bind or whatever he is runing
[07:10:31] <ProxDem> if his routers DNS capabilities are f00bared
[07:10:41] <ProxDem> and all his machines use that as a DNS server
[07:10:46] <ProxDem> he will not be able to come back here for more help
[07:10:51] <jthornton> would that be a hardware issue?
[07:11:00] <ProxDem> I would make sure you have at least one machine that has either your ISPs DNS or OPENDNS
[07:11:01] <DJ9DJ> adams.freenode.net is 94.125.182.252
[07:11:03] <DJ9DJ> ;)
[07:11:11] <DJ9DJ> just 4 the case
[07:11:17] <ProxDem> or as DJ9DJ mentions the IP of one irc server
[07:11:26] <ProxDem> and hope to god it doesn't try to redirect you
[07:11:37] <ProxDem> via domain name redirection
[07:11:55] <ProxDem> jthornton: some routers can crap out overtime on their DNS services
[07:12:03] <ProxDem> rebooting usualy fixes that
[07:12:09] <ProxDem> or switching to dd-wrt =P
[07:12:18] <ProxDem> I for one
[07:12:22] <ProxDem> never use router based DNS
[07:12:33] <ProxDem> I prefer to have them set in the invididual machines
[07:12:44] <jthornton> I'm not following all the DNS stuff :(
[07:12:47] <ProxDem> some routers will let you set that up in the DHCP config
[07:13:00] <ProxDem> jthornton: for one...write down the IP of at least a few freenode servers
[07:13:10] <ProxDem> so that you can come back on here even if rebooting doesn't fix your DNS issues
[07:13:38] <ProxDem> 2...I would setup a linux box to have at the very least your ISPs DNS in it's /etc/resolv.conf
[07:13:57] <ProxDem> thus bypassing your router for DNS queries
[07:14:14] <DJ9DJ> i think 8.8.8.8 is a free google dns
[07:14:36] <DJ9DJ> (but who wants to trust google?) ;)
[07:14:38] <ProxDem> https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/
[07:14:45] <jthornton> on this computer resolv.conf has # Generated by NetworkManager
[07:14:45] <jthornton> nameserver 192.168.0.1
[07:14:47] <ProxDem> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[07:14:58] <R2E4_awy> dig 8.8.8.8
[07:15:01] <R2E4_awy> opps
[07:15:05] <ProxDem> jthornton: yes that's your routers/whatever shares your net
[07:15:20] <ProxDem> jthornton: that resolv.conf was autogenerated because of the DHCP request your computer did
[07:15:50] <ProxDem> for example on that box
[07:16:04] <ProxDem> if you changed 192.168.0.1 to 8.8.8.8 (you'd be using googles opendns)
[07:16:39] <ProxDem> but be aware that on every reboot or DHCP renewal there is a very HIGH probability that the /etc/resolv.conf be overwritten
[07:16:45] <ProxDem> unless you specify otherwise
[07:17:03] <ProxDem> or unless the Distro you are using is defaulting to not overwrite it
[07:17:55] <jthornton> all my linux boxes are Ubuntu 10.04
[07:18:20] <ProxDem> afaik that's default overwrite on dhcp request
[07:18:33] <jthornton> would I have to reboot this computer for the changes in resolv.conf to take effect?
[07:18:34] <ProxDem> well as soon as there is a response to the dhcpd request
[07:18:42] <ProxDem> jthornton: no need to reboot
[07:18:53] <ProxDem> simply
[07:18:56] <ProxDem> host weather.gov
[07:18:56] <R2E4_awy> nohook resolv.conf in dhcpd config
[07:19:56] <jthornton> john@zotac:~$ host weather.gov
[07:19:56] <jthornton> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[07:20:29] <jthornton> I might need to reboot my satellite router thing
[07:20:39] <ProxDem> I think your router is crashed out
[07:20:42] <ProxDem> reboot it
[07:20:55] <jthornton> ok
[07:21:06] <ProxDem> make sure you noted the IP of a freenode server
[07:21:06] <DJ9DJ> hope you will be back
[07:27:04] <ProxDem> well he's still alive
[07:27:06] <ProxDem> responding to pings
[07:27:07] * Tom_itx thinks jthornton tripped over a cord
[07:27:31] <ProxDem> Tom_itx: I sure hope not =)
[07:32:10] * jthornton gets his safety glasses on to attack this grapefruit first
[08:28:32] <r00t4rd3d> they should call that buttfruit cause them things taste like ass.
[08:28:55] <jdh> is that your area of expertise?
[08:29:57] <FinboySlick> I'm a bit curious what fruit that would be now.
[08:30:06] <r00t4rd3d> grape
[08:30:29] <FinboySlick> r00t4rd3d: So you've mostly tasted sweet and slightly bitter asses before?
[08:30:44] <FinboySlick> (sorry, couldn't help myslef)
[08:31:29] <jdh> r00t4rd3d, ass-taster of excellence.
[08:31:47] <r00t4rd3d> Some chicks get off on tongue punching their dirt star.
[08:32:03] <r00t4rd3d> anyway....
[08:32:49] <L84Supper> isn't that an Assommelier?
[08:45:34] <r00t4rd3d> sweet, just got email from a hunting club president - "I would like to have something made for the guys in our hunting club."
[08:47:10] <DJ9DJ> sounds like a nice woodworker job :)
[08:49:39] <L84Supper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZwAPmWHDAo print objects that look and smell like wood!!
[08:49:40] <Tecan> (RZwAPmWHDAo) "LAYWOO-D3 3D Printing Wood Filament" by "Rien Arnold" is "People" - Length: 0:02:41
[09:02:48] <JT-Shop> well it is not anything to do with my equipment, I plugged into the satillite router direct and same problem
[09:03:41] <ProxDem> so your ISP dns are down?
[09:03:59] <ProxDem> when you plugged in directly what were the IPs of your nameserver?
[09:04:25] <jdh> use google NS
[09:06:04] <JT-Shop> how would you check that?
[09:06:44] <L84Supper> Configure your network settings to use the Google IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers or Open DNS 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[09:07:33] <L84Supper> the config in your network manager
[09:08:35] <L84Supper> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager
[09:08:56] <JT-Shop> I'm on a windoze computer here
[09:10:40] <L84Supper> it's in the network settings for IPv4 in the Network ad Sharing Center
[09:11:16] <ProxDem> I'v previously mentioned both googles and opendns
[09:11:26] <ProxDem> =)
[09:12:07] <L84Supper> ** for Prox, gold ones
[09:12:15] <ProxDem> just 2?
[09:12:52] <L84Supper> **^32
[09:13:21] <JT-Shop> ok how do I flush the DNS resolver cache?
[09:13:23] <ProxDem> hwell dayum!
[09:13:35] <ProxDem> JT-Shop: in windows ipconfig /flushdns?
[09:13:40] <ProxDem> is that what you are refering 2
[09:13:48] <JT-Shop> yes
[09:13:57] <ProxDem> then yes =)
[09:14:25] <ProxDem> then nslookup weather.gov (seeing as that is your original issue)
[09:14:51] <JT-Shop> I was following the instructions here to use open dns
http://use.opendns.com/#win7
[09:15:15] <L84Supper> looks good
[09:15:26] <ProxDem> looks good
[09:15:36] <JT-Shop> request to resolver1.opendns.com timed-out
[09:15:53] <ProxDem> JT-Shop: do all your computers suffer from this at the moment?
[09:15:58] <JT-Shop> yes
[09:16:21] <ProxDem> I'm curious as 2 your ping to resolver1.opendns.com
[09:20:52] <L84Supper> DJ9DJ: if he routed through China the connection would only break 90% of the time, then you can say it might be his router and it's not *blocked*
[09:21:02] <JT-Shop> on phone with wildblue
[09:26:41] <L84Supper> wildblue 10 GB/month $49.99, 25 GB/month $129.99, I'd be throttled to dialup speeds in 2-3 days max
[09:28:50] <L84Supper> I'd like to have it in the car though for trips
[09:40:00] <pcw_home> you need 10 GB per month in your car?
[09:42:02] <jdh> is that enough?
[09:43:25] <L84Supper> as long as nobody downloads a game or a DVD ISO
[09:46:03] <pcw_home> http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3210/3151930474_56dbafe9bb_z.jpg
[09:50:10] <R2E4_awy> a three phase transformer would have three primary wires correct?
[09:50:57] <pcw_home> Yes
[09:51:41] <R2E4_awy> bizare, I am trying to convert my R2E4 to 220 single phase and the manuals say one of the trannies is three phase and it downt look like it is.
[09:54:41] <L84Supper> R2E4: post pics or pages from the pdf's if you can
[09:54:54] <R2E4_awy> http://irmtl.com/LinuxCNC/R2E4/DSC_0143.JPG
[09:56:00] <R2E4_awy> hard to see but the top is the primary and you can see two wires for primary and a jumper that is for the voltage.
[10:01:24] <r00t4rd3d> anyone here have guns?
[10:01:29] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/N6imOO1.jpg
[10:01:36] <jdh> I lost all mine in a canoe accident
[10:01:38] <r00t4rd3d> What would be good universal measurements for A's rise and B's length?
[10:03:03] <pcw_home> sure looks like a single phase xfrmr
[10:05:16] <R2E4_awy> I think the manuals are not right, the schematics show 2 primary leads also.
[10:06:19] <jdh> min barrel length is 16", max is usually 26-28" ish then 4-8" for the action
[10:07:32] <R2E4_awy> I will have to check if any thing else uses the three phase other than the spindle but I dont think so./
[10:10:31] <jdh> so, somewhere between 8-20 inches for A
[10:10:50] <FinboySlick> pcw_home: Have you converted all your FPGAs to bitcoin mining yet? ;)
[10:12:35] <pcw_home> They have ASICS for that now
[10:13:10] <R2E4_awy> One of the logic boards in the BP is called..... EMC3
[10:14:00] <FinboySlick> pcw_home: Getting them is nearly impossible, let's design one!
[10:14:27] <FinboySlick> (actually, that probably means: design one and I'll buy it)
[10:16:06] <FinboySlick> They apparently took some major shortcuts getting the asics done actually, I don't Avalon has done it right yet.
[10:17:00] <L84Supper> pcw_home: you don't want to know how overpriced these are
http://www.aaapress.com/inspection-strobe-light.html http://www.unilux.com/display_industry.php?iid=1
[10:18:34] <L84Supper> http://www.monarchinstrument.com/pdfs/Price%20Lists/Instrument_Price_List_Jan_13.pdf
[10:20:38] <pcw_home> If you are using linuxCNC and have a hardware stepgen available you could just phase lock it to the encoder
[10:21:15] <pcw_home> total hardware cost about $20 (for 60W LED and driver)
[10:22:48] <pcw_home> should just scale with bigger LED modules (and duty cycles would be so low that no heatsinking is needed)
[10:22:49] <L84Supper> even adding a metal enclosure and mounting hardware will keep it well under $100
[10:23:32] <AR_> i need cable for stepper motors and switches and shit
[10:23:36] <AR_> what's a good cheap source?
[10:23:47] <pcw_home> theft?
[10:24:12] <AR_> lol
[10:25:22] <archivist> the key to using random cheap wire is how it is flexed
[10:25:49] <AR_> the only moving motor is have is my X axis
[10:26:19] <archivist> no Z?
[10:27:47] <L84Supper> http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Wiring_Solutions/Electrical_Hook-Up_-z-_Building_Wire/Insulation_Type_-_MTW/MTW16GN?utm_source=google&utm_medium=product-search&gclid=CLbt5-_krrYCFc9AMgodxl4AgA
[10:27:49] <AR_> my X motor is stationary
[10:28:07] <archivist> there must be no tight bends, radius of bending where it flexes must be as large as possible, there are rules of thumb around but they are minimums
[10:28:13] <AR_> well
[10:28:18] <AR_> spindle and switches move
[10:28:21] <AR_> on Z i mean
[10:28:46] <archivist> but Z is carried on something moving?
[10:28:58] <AR_> no
[10:29:06] <AR_> Z is on stationary column
[10:29:12] <archivist> ok
[10:29:14] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_nkw=mtw+wire&_sop=15
[10:30:43] <L84Supper> Google results for "used cheap mtw wire" didn't return much
[10:31:45] <archivist> I use standard wire but keep it in a tube to constrain the bend radius
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/works/P1010199.JPG
[10:32:22] <archivist> standard stranded wire, never solid wire
[10:32:37] <L84Supper> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/cnc-parts/4-conductor-18ga-shielded-motor-wires
[10:34:12] <L84Supper> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/cnc-parts/cnc-router-rotational-axis-the-5th-axis
[10:34:15] <L84Supper> this is new
[10:35:29] <archivist> seriously too few specs at that price
[10:35:55] <L84Supper> looks like only one axis has a motor
[10:38:20] <L84Supper> better than 0.1" accuracy for sure
[10:38:35] <archivist> where does it say that
[10:38:42] <L84Supper> kidding
[10:39:50] <FinboySlick> It's kinda pretty though.
[10:40:03] <L84Supper> I wonder if the table rotates. It looks like there might be a bearing there
[10:40:42] <R2E4_awy> The 7i77 takes 4 wire encoders? or quads which is 8 wires?
[10:41:07] <L84Supper> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/photo-1.jpg
[10:48:50] <pcw_home> The 7I77 will take single ended (5 wire) or differential (8 wire) encoders
[10:49:31] <JT-Shop> ProxDem: the weather.gov was a problem with wildblue/excede on their backend
[11:04:03] <ProxDem> JT-Shop: lol nice
[11:06:07] <JT-Shop> yea, spent an hour on the phone with tech support... then a supervisor walks by and says oh yea we are having problems with that site
[11:28:40] <L84Supper> I spent 3 hours on the phone with Clear only to find somebody had canceled my 3G access a year earlier but Sprint kept letting me on the network
[11:29:43] <ProxDem> lol
[11:33:23] <L84Supper> actual timely tech support from an ISP hasn't happened to me since the early 90's
[11:57:19] <IchGuckLive> hi all B9
[12:12:38] <Connor> anyone proficient with glade online ATM ?
[12:24:31] <archivist> should we alss answer yes/no/maybe...in IRC ask the real question
[12:26:20] <IchGuckLive> someone has a prog that fits arts onto a sheet (25 different pices)
[12:26:29] <IchGuckLive> parts O.IO
[12:26:44] <fomox> would it be possible for me to get a laser engraver / cutter that can cut 5mm mdf with a working area of 400 x 400 mm for under 1500 usd?
[12:27:12] <IchGuckLive> 5mm mdf is hard on laser
[12:27:37] <IchGuckLive> fo where are you from
[12:27:42] <IchGuckLive> USA europ
[12:27:47] <fomox> Europe
[12:27:54] <IchGuckLive> im in germany
[12:29:21] <Connor> working on a gladevcp handler script... having some issues..
[12:29:38] <Connor> First, in the script.. how do you toggle a pin value ?
[12:29:51] <Connor> I figured out how to create a pin..
[12:30:17] <Connor> Secondy.. how do you change the text on a label dynamically ?
[12:50:11] <kwallace> def on_face_tool_dia_dro_activate(self, widget, data=None):
[12:50:11] <kwallace> (is_number, number) = self.is_number(widget.get_text())
[12:50:11] <kwallace> widget.set_text('%s' % self.axis_dro_fmt % number)
[12:50:11] <kwallace> self.face_dro_list['face_row_dro'].grab_focus()
[12:50:11] <kwallace> return
[12:52:31] <Connor> kwallace: what's that ?
[12:54:27] <kwallace> set_text gets the value of number, formats it to xx.xxxx, then sends it to the widget. This may be the way to set your label on the fly.
[12:55:02] <Connor> setting values to the hal pin is the most critical at this point.
[12:55:11] <Connor> I think I figured out the dynamic label.
[14:25:26] <PCW> andypugh: looks like sserial does not stop when it get excessive errors
[14:25:26] <PCW> error messages say the port is stopped but state is still run and doits are still occurring
[14:29:12] <PCW> also sserial mode text is printing funny in dmesg, looks like the text LC folding is not right (underline folded but should not be)
[14:33:07] <Connor> PCW on Pete's setup, would changing the servo base thread from 1,000,000 to 500,000 make a difference with using the MPG on a Encoder input ?
[14:33:30] <PCW> no
[14:33:57] <Connor> ok. It's about 10' from 7i77 non-differential.
[14:34:47] <PCW> the problem with using hm2 encoder inputs for MPGs is that there is no 1X mode
[14:35:51] <Connor> When I'm back over to his house Saturday.. I'll run up hal config and see what the raw count coming from the MPG is..
[14:36:13] <Connor> What lines of code do I need to make it work with the MPG encoder input ?
[14:36:30] <PCW> The 7I77 supports a 1X mode on some of its digital inputs but 10ft is a long way for TTL signals
[14:37:36] <PCW> basically get the count from the 7I77 instead of the 5I25 (and you need to set the 7i77 mode so it has the MPG inputs)
[14:38:09] <Connor> yea. That's the part I know nothing about.
[14:38:56] <Connor> *IF* we continue to have issues.. I can do like Andy said and use the parport which is just a foot away.
[14:39:21] <PCW> I think on pncconf generated hal files the mode is set on the loadrt hm2_pci line
[14:39:46] <PCW> you can also use 4x mode but its not ideal if you want only one increment step per detent
[14:41:15] <Connor> loadrt hm2_pci config=" num_encoders=6 num_pwmgens=0 num_3pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=0 sserial_port_0=000xxxxx "
[14:46:01] <Connor> not seeing anything about mode..
[14:48:17] <PCW> sserial_port_0=000xxxxx sb sserial_port_0=20xxxxxx
[14:49:19] <Connor> so.. loadrt hm2_pci config=" num_encoders=6 num_pwmgens=0 num_3pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=0 sserial_port_0=000xxxxx sb sserial_port_0=20xxxxxx"
[14:50:10] <PCW> sorry sserial_port_0=30xxxxxx
[14:50:21] <Connor> okay, where do you find that at ?
[14:50:32] <Connor> I mean.. what documentation...
[14:50:54] <PCW> sb means should be
[14:50:56] <PCW> loadrt hm2_pci config=" num_encoders=6 serial_port_0=30xxxxxx"
[14:51:12] <PCW> man hostmot2
[14:51:14] <PCW> man sserial
[14:51:42] <PCW> 7i77 manual software process data modes
[14:53:52] <Connor> okay, and what's the mpg pin out for those ? Looking at sserial right now... ?
[14:58:54] <PCW> 7I77 manual page 21
[14:59:46] <Connor> yea. ping 16,17,18,19. but.. does it make them look like hm2_5i25.0.mpg.01 or something ?
[15:00:02] <Connor> ping = pins
[15:00:44] <PCW> no its a 7i77 remote so it will be like the I/O pins
[15:01:36] <Connor> okay, so how is it any different that just using the pins straight out without having to go into mode 3 ? I'm just a bit confused. Would be nice if they're was a example for this somewhere..
[15:01:53] <PCW> hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.enc0 or similar
[15:02:34] <PCW> because its not bits but a count
[15:04:37] <PCW> also its slightly magic and uses a different input threshold (2.5V vs 1/2 VField)
[15:05:06] <Connor> ok. Trying to find the exact pin name for mpg 0 and mpg 1
[15:05:29] <PCW> halcmd show pin
[15:06:03] <Connor> I'm running in simulator right now with now mesa cards. so.. don't think that'll work.
[15:09:19] <PCW> hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.enc0 is right
[15:09:31] <Connor> okay. great.
[15:10:09] <Connor> and, if that doesn't work... I'll use the parport pins... :)
[15:11:03] <PCW> really only the enc0 is not known
[15:11:05] <PCW> hm2 - hostmot2
[15:11:06] <PCW> 5i25.0 first 5I25 card
[15:11:08] <PCW> 7i77.0.0 its attached to the 7I77 I/O
[15:11:22] <Tom_itx> Connor is this the MPG you've had for a while or a different one?
[15:11:44] <Connor> Tom_itx: This is for Pete and his Arrow500 Conversion.
[15:12:17] <Tom_itx> did you just get the wheel or a whole encoder thing?
[15:12:41] <Tom_itx> MPG thing*
[15:12:51] <PCW> If you have a lot of front panel I/O a distance from the 7I77, a 7I73 might make more sense
[15:12:59] <Connor> He just has a MPG. It's mounted on his main panel. Writing a GladeVCP to handle the axis selection and stuff right now.
[15:13:23] <Tom_itx> pmdx seems to always be out of them is why i wondered
[15:13:25] <Connor> 7i73 will be forth coming for a remote pendant. I think it's over kill for this use.. He only has the MPG and 3 buttons
[15:13:41] <Connor> Tom_itx: Ah.
[15:13:53] <Tom_itx> i just wondered where he got it
[15:14:17] <Connor> His came with the original control panel of the machine before conversion.. he's just recycling it. :)
[15:18:07] <Tom_itx> pete as in PCW?
[15:18:33] <Connor> No. as in PetefromTn
[15:20:25] <andypugh> PCW: Oh. That seems wrong.
[15:20:52] <skunkworks> I am using a mpg hooked into the normal mesa encoder counters.. (and X4) I just have it scaled out so each click is movement/4 so .001 is actaully .00025 (Don't remember the specifics...)
[15:22:23] <Connor> How does it work in velocity mode ? MPG's ? I've not set that up for him yet in that mode.. or is that even a common mode to use ?
[15:26:37] <skunkworks> I don't know if I have ever run it in velocity mode...
[15:29:56] <PCW> the 1xmode in the 7I77 should work though you may have to swap A/B to get the count to occur between detents
[15:30:31] <PCW> or worse change the 7I77 count mode
[15:32:21] <andypugh> PCW: I think I found the problem. Now how to test it?
[15:33:08] <PCW> unplug a sserial remote and replug. If green light still blinks there's a problem
[15:35:15] <PCW> Ultimately it would be better to have per channel error counts and disable the failed channel by masking its start bit in the DoIt command
[15:47:12] <R2E4_> connected at the new office at (sit down)..... 400bps.
[15:47:23] <R2E4_> Bell says at the end of the copper lines......
[15:47:33] <R2E4_> CO is 8 miles away.....
[15:47:34] <Tom_itx> lies
[15:48:17] <R2E4_> thats bits per second. not Mega bits per second...:-)
[15:48:22] <R2E4_> Sloow mo!!
[15:48:29] <ProxDem> damn
[15:48:35] <ProxDem> someone fried up some dslams? =P
[15:52:02] <Connor> R2E4_ This on DSL? They note have a remote DSLAM or something ?
[15:53:09] <ProxDem> Connor: bell has a tendancy to not maintain their equipment
[15:53:29] <ProxDem> and give you the dumbest excuses as to what's going on
[15:53:59] <Connor> ProxDem: Yea. I know. I was a Systems Administrator for a ISP for over 12 1/2 years.. we delt with Bell and ADSL wholesale deal.. Know all too much about it..
[15:56:09] <R2E4_> They have a what they call turbo station. they claim 6mbits down.
[15:56:21] <R2E4_> ITs portable uses 3 or 4g something.
[15:56:32] <Connor> Oh geez.
[15:56:54] <Connor> What City/State you in?
[15:56:56] <R2E4_> The techs today said within a year you will have fiber here.
[15:57:09] <R2E4_> Just outside Montreal Canada
[15:57:20] <Connor> any cable providers?
[15:57:51] <R2E4_> Yes but they are not in this industrial area either. It is not neighborhood. I rent a garage in an industrial park.
[15:58:56] <R2E4_> videotron cable said they are suppose to be here anytime.
[15:59:05] <ProxDem> videotron says alot of weird things
[15:59:20] <R2E4_> They have been saying that for a year now.
[15:59:29] <ProxDem> once told me I could signup one of the companies I worked for to cable and internet as they didn't reach where I was
[15:59:52] <ProxDem> 3days later a videotron truck pulls up in the parking to install cable and internet to a guy in the street behind us
[16:00:14] <Connor> Figures.
[16:00:16] <ProxDem> so I talked to the guy...he said call back ask them to send an engineer and give them the name of the street behind you
[16:00:28] <R2E4_> haha..... Corp BS Screw the consumer and lie to them the best they can.
[16:00:33] <ProxDem> and eventually videotron admitted they were morons and cable was available to us
[16:00:54] <ProxDem> the guy in the truck laughed and he said...typical morons
[16:00:57] <R2E4_> well at least you got them to admit it.
[16:02:05] <R2E4_> I'm in an industrial park and they are all still on copper back to the CO 8-12miles away....
[16:02:28] <ProxDem> north korea is gonna try and nuke the states?!?!?!
[16:02:30] <R2E4_> In one of the biggest regions in Canada
[16:02:55] <R2E4_> did you the jpg of North Korea winning the coin toss?
[16:03:47] <L84Supper> we have ATT and Comcast fiber to the building, copper inside, but 100MB down/ 6up is $500/mo, 10mb down and 10 mb up is $1200/ mo
[16:07:18] <Connor> I remember the good'o days of 1200 and 2400 baud.. dialing up BBS's..
[16:07:22] <R2E4_> http://teapartyorg.ning.com/photo/north-korea-has-won-the-coin-toss?context=latest
[16:08:09] <R2E4_> http://iowadawg.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians-january-2013/north-korea-won-the-coin-toss/
[16:08:50] <R2E4_> I used to have a BBS in my basement, a router with 24 async lines on it....hehe
[16:09:20] <Connor> I use to run one too.
[16:09:29] <R2E4_> oh yeah, back in the serial comms days.
[16:09:31] <Connor> Loved the USRobotics Courirer modems.
[16:09:39] <ProxDem> usr ftw!
[16:09:43] <R2E4_> hahaha
[16:10:21] <R2E4_> right after that I got into linux. Took me 6 months to get on the net.
[16:10:43] <Connor> They're was no public internet when I was playing with it...
[16:10:46] <R2E4_> and another 6 months to figure out how x worked and get a desktop.
[16:12:33] <ProxDem> haven't used a 2400baud modem in forever
[16:12:41] <ProxDem> R2E4_: nice what distro?
[16:14:01] <ProxDem> 17years ago I started with slackware =)
[16:14:20] <jdh> I had SLS
[16:14:25] <jdh> then snackware
[16:15:00] <Connor> Slackware --> Redhat & SuSE ---> 1 Fedora --> CentOS for Servers ---> Ubuntu for Desktop
[16:15:14] <Connor> That's my progression..
[16:15:34] <jdh> I did Caldera while it briefly existed
[16:15:49] <ProxDem> that sounds like a regression =P
[16:16:02] <jdh> I still have a FC1 box
[16:16:20] <Connor> I have a application specific distro for a NAS box.. OpenFiler I think runs on a IDE DOM
[16:16:49] <ProxDem> going from slackware to repo based distros that's sad =)
[16:17:14] <Connor> ProxDem: No choice. Half the stuff I was using it for required a specific distro.
[16:17:25] <ProxDem> if it's not by choice I understand that
[16:17:42] <Connor> plus, I wasn't in it to tinker, I was in it to get things up and running. in a production environment.
[16:17:44] <ProxDem> I had to use centos for a few servers as well
[16:17:59] <andypugh> I have been on the web since about the first week.
[16:18:02] <Connor> I'm still running CentOS for servers..
[16:18:19] <ProxDem> Connor: Same...In production environment...still ran a few slackware servers
[16:18:32] <ProxDem> some centos (no choice)
[16:18:58] <Connor> I played with FreeBSD and NetBSD some.. but.. never really used them.
[16:19:01] <Connor> stuck with linux.
[16:19:50] <ProxDem> bsd has it's advantages...pf has some tricks over iptables for example
[16:19:59] <ProxDem> but yeah stuck with linux
[16:20:06] <ProxDem> I prefer slackware been using it for 17years
[16:20:17] <jdh> you don't get out much, do you.
[16:20:17] <ProxDem> I do use ...eugh...ubuntu...and centos
[16:20:41] <ProxDem> jdh: is that a reference to my slackware usage?
[16:20:46] <jdh> yes :)
[16:20:49] <ProxDem> hum
[16:21:07] <ProxDem> a joke pertaining to the NON repo nature of slackware?
[16:21:35] <ProxDem> not sure how to interpret your joke
[16:21:39] <jdh> no, pertaining to the fact that it was just a pain for a few years.
[16:21:49] <ProxDem> it was never a pain for me
[16:21:55] <jdh> you should interpret it as being witty and topical, regardless of its actual humor value.
[16:22:06] <ProxDem> so I'm not sure I understand your joke
[16:22:19] <jdh> that's ok.
[16:22:21] <ProxDem> is it because you like REPO based distros?
[16:22:33] <ProxDem> and simply want to yum install world?
[16:22:38] <ProxDem> or apt-get install world
[16:22:56] <jdh> never joke with idealists, they don't understand.
[16:23:26] <ProxDem> mk...so now we're making assumptions I'm an idealist?
[16:23:31] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:23:39] <ProxDem> all that because I'm trying to understand what your joke is based on?
[16:23:50] <jdh> indeed.
[16:23:53] <ProxDem> seems a tad far fetched if you ask me
[16:23:59] <jdh> that's ok.
[16:24:41] <ProxDem> actualy I find that kinda lame
[16:24:43] <ProxDem> not "ok"
[16:24:54] <ProxDem> I haven't assumed anything about you...yet
[16:25:02] <jdh> that's ok too.
[16:25:23] <andypugh> Guys, why not just let this drop?
[16:25:27] <jdh> ok
[16:26:02] <jdh> I didn't like slackware in 1996ish and moved on.
[16:26:11] <andypugh> Instead, tell me how the heck to actually get a file from my Mac share to my Ubuntu machine. SO I can machine it.
[16:26:18] <jdh> bluetooth?
[16:26:29] <ProxDem> andypugh: scp
[16:26:36] <R2E4_> I started with Slakware
[16:26:37] <Tom_itx> andypugh if all else fails pastebin it :D
[16:27:09] <andypugh> I have been gnown to gmail stuff to myself.
[16:27:15] <Tom_itx> me too
[16:27:22] <Tom_itx> sometimes it's faster
[16:27:29] <Connor> I email stuff yo myself all the fracking time..
[16:27:39] <Connor> and ftp it to a remote host and back down.
[16:27:43] <jdh> I know people happily using samba shares on macos
[16:28:15] <andypugh> Yeah, I have samba/cifs shares setup and zerconf/bonjour/avahi.
[16:29:10] <jdh> I have a disk on my router/wap/thing that I mount on my winboxes and my cnc boxes.
[16:29:15] <andypugh> And I can push files from the Mac to the Ubu machines. And I can navigate the folders and _see_ the files in the shares from the Ubu machines, but whenever I try to open or copy a file I get a "Not supported" error.
[16:30:44] <andypugh> I just pushed the file with AFP. But I don't like doing that as it puts nasty invisible Mac files everywhere.
[16:30:47] <ProxDem> you could use scp to copy the files from the mac to ubuntu
[16:31:07] <t12> anything in the samba logs?
[16:31:19] <t12> or the osx logs for that matter
[16:31:27] <Connor> Why can't I re-home in my simulator.. I always get Cannot home while share home switch is closed..
[16:32:23] <jdh> scp + ssh-agent would be clean?
[16:32:31] <andypugh> The problem is that I typically want to "pull" when logged into the Ubuntu box. Otherwise it is a case of going out to the garage, unlockiong it, booting the CNC machine, locking the garage, walkking back round the house, pushing the file, walking back round the house, unlocking the garage...
[16:32:47] <andypugh> Connor: I had that today too.
[16:32:51] <jdh> I don't turn mine off
[16:33:13] <Connor> just use a thumb drive to move files back and forth and be done with it? :)
[16:33:19] <t12> dropbox?
[16:33:34] <jdh> google drive
[16:33:45] <t12> nfs
[16:33:57] <jdh> DECnet
[16:34:00] <ProxDem> sshfs
[16:34:15] <jdh> gmailfs
[16:34:55] <Connor> is they're a way to use the simulator so I can configure stuff up for 5i25 and 7i77 ?
[16:35:01] <Connor> without having them in the machine ?
[16:35:06] <t12> x.400
[16:35:13] <andypugh> Connor: Jog to a Z position less than 2 "units"
[16:35:35] <andypugh> Looks like a problem with the simulated home switches
[16:37:07] <andypugh> And yes, I believe you can run pncconf without the hardware connected.
[16:37:16] <Connor> I've done that.
[16:37:31] <Connor> I just want to start tweaking it and making sure it loads.. but.. it won't.
[16:37:51] <Connor> so, I'm guessing the answer is no. not without the hardware.
[16:38:05] <andypugh> Ah, no, the config won't load.
[16:38:15] <Connor> Pncconf only gets you so far.
[16:38:23] <andypugh> All the pions will be missing.
[16:38:38] <andypugh> And the muons. (I meant pins, actually)
[16:38:54] <Connor> I read decent typo. :)
[16:39:12] <Connor> I type it better. :)
[16:41:11] <Connor> So, is their even a base thread when using MESA...?? I noticed a few real time errors on Pete's machine the other day when we would first load linuxcnc up etc..
[16:42:48] <Connor> and, if I add a parport.. I'll have to use base thread.. right ?
[16:54:37] <Tom_itx> i think so
[16:54:54] <andypugh> No
[16:55:18] <Tom_itx> i thought you used the servo thread on mesa cards only
[16:55:44] <andypugh> You can scan the parport in the servo-thread if you think 250 counts/sec is enough
[16:56:45] <Tom_itx> andypugh, i also use a thumb drive to copy files in a pinch
[16:57:21] <andypugh> The computer in question is unaware of USB drives
[16:57:28] <Tom_itx> ok
[16:57:47] <Tom_itx> well i don't have any macs... can't help much
[16:59:29] <andypugh> I don't think it is a Mac problem, it seems to be a Ubu SMB problem
[17:00:39] <ProxDem> andypugh: skim through the smb logs?
[17:00:52] <andypugh> Where do they live?
[17:02:01] <ProxDem> should be in /var/log/samba/
[17:02:31] <andypugh> empty folder..
[17:02:53] <ProxDem> andypugh: are you mounting the samba shares or are you using konqueror or something similar?
[17:03:21] <andypugh> I really don't know.
[17:03:47] <andypugh> I am not even entirely sure I am using samba. I might be using afp..
[17:04:04] <andypugh> I am locating the share by gui-means
[17:05:14] <ProxDem> andypugh: can you elaborate on that a little bit?
[17:05:46] <andypugh> Places->Network->IMAC->CNC_drop
[17:06:09] <andypugh> The share appears in .gvfs.
[17:06:13] <andypugh> (after wards)
[17:09:34] <ProxDem> andypugh: are you near the mac box right now?
[17:17:05] <gene77> Got nother silly Q? How to stop linuxcnc doing its initial, probably forever code scan when I used the wrong -+ sign in a conditional loop?
[17:19:41] <micges> escape
[17:21:35] <micges> gene77: if you mean stop Axis from forever loading gcode then press Escape
[17:21:50] <gene77> Took a couple seconds, but worked, thank you very much
[17:22:20] <gene77> Now back to your usually scheculed programming. :)
[17:22:48] <micges> hah, ok:)
[17:23:52] <Tom_itx> andypugh,
http://www.technibble.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-25154.html
[17:23:58] <Tom_itx> dunno if that will help
[17:45:36] <andypugh> OK, so I just need to gksudo nautilus? Worth a try...
[17:47:33] <gene77> That was tmp, I commented out the machine moves and the interior loop, changed the sign in the var=var line, and its well and truly crashed, I can't even kill it as root.
[17:47:38] <andypugh> I have tried that. "Nautilus can not access "network" locations...
[17:47:49] <gene77> So here comes a reset
[17:48:52] <Tom_itx> andypugh, you have networking set up on ubuntu right?
[17:49:30] <andypugh> Yeah, how else could I have a "Network" icon to click in the Nautilus wondow?
[17:49:53] <Tom_itx> dunno about nautilus
[17:49:58] <andypugh> I can browse the folders, I just can't read any files.
[17:50:27] <Tom_itx> does mac have a shared folder?
[17:50:40] <Tom_itx> and do you have an account for ubunut there?
[17:50:50] <Tom_itx> ubuntu*
[17:51:06] <andypugh> Yes. As `i said, I can browse the shared folders. I can even browse the network in Nautilus (_except_ if I gksudo it)
[17:51:09] <Tom_itx> i had problems getting files from windows too
[17:51:36] <andypugh> I am VNC-ing to the Linux box at the moment, watching it machine parts.
[17:52:40] <Tom_itx> i know nothing about mac
[17:53:05] <andypugh> I don't think it is a Mac problem, but it could be, I suppose.
[17:53:07] <Tom_itx> but it's a sharing or file attribute issue of some sort
[17:53:37] <andypugh> I don't even know what file sharing protocol is being used.
[17:54:07] <Tom_itx> can you copy files the other direction?
[17:54:32] <andypugh> Yes, no trouble at all. (other than the amount of walking involved)
[17:54:49] <Tom_itx> what happens if you rename one of those copied files and copy it back?
[17:54:59] <andypugh> Hmm?
[17:55:25] <andypugh> Rename it on which machine, and copy it back to which machine?
[17:55:35] <Tom_itx> copy a file to the mac, rename it and try to copy it back to ubuntu
[17:55:56] <Tom_itx> just to see
[17:56:24] <andypugh> Not getting what you mean.
[17:56:47] <Tom_itx> you're trying to copy mac files to the ubuntu box right?
[17:56:52] <andypugh> Yes
[17:56:57] <Tom_itx> and they can't be accessed
[17:57:02] <andypugh> Yes
[17:57:21] <Tom_itx> so try to copy a file TO the mac machine. rename that file. try to copy it back to the ubuntu machine
[17:57:29] <andypugh> So, you are saying copy a file from the Ubu machine using the Mac?
[17:57:36] <Tom_itx> that will tell you it's a file attribute or file locking error or some type
[17:57:44] <Tom_itx> yes
[17:57:48] <Tom_itx> then copy it back
[17:58:02] <andypugh> Using which machine?
[17:58:08] <Tom_itx> the files created on the mac are the problem files
[17:58:18] <Tom_itx> copy it back using the ubuntu machine
[17:58:55] <Tom_itx> that will tell you it's not a networking problem rather a file share or attribute problem i think
[17:59:45] <Tom_itx> i can't remember what i did to get my windows sharing working but i had similar problems
[18:00:02] <andypugh> "Function not Implemented"
[18:00:23] <Tom_itx> on the ubuntu box?
[18:00:43] <andypugh> Yes
[18:00:57] <Tom_itx> lemme see if i took any notes
[18:02:11] <andypugh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/858247
[18:04:45] <Tom_itx> i've been using filezilla on my network machine
[18:04:55] <Tom_itx> dunno if that would work
[18:06:28] <Tom_itx> can you connect it as a network drive?
[18:07:14] <andypugh> did you see the bug report?
[18:07:18] <Tom_itx> yes
[18:08:45] <Tom_itx> i barely get by using linux and know even less about mac
[18:09:25] <andypugh> PCW: If I unplug the device, the LED goes red. I don't know if it is still being sent do-its (I expect it is). Perhaps the remote needs to be on external power?
[18:13:52] <Tom_itx> there's a samba4-clients package in the package manager
[18:16:52] <Tom_itx> my samba is 2:3.4.7 but it looks like there's a samba4 there as well
[18:18:09] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop?
[18:27:43] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx:
[18:27:55] <JT-Shop> yea the DDR3 memory arrived
[18:28:23] <Tom_itx> did you get the programmer?
[18:28:33] <JT-Shop> nope
[18:28:34] <Tom_itx> apparently it showed up monday
[18:28:39] <Tom_itx> says it was delivered
[18:28:52] <Tom_itx> #0 manilla envelope
[18:29:19] <JT-Shop> postal must have put it in the wrong box...
[18:29:25] <Tom_itx> :/
[18:31:03] <Tom_itx> does that happen alot out there?
[18:31:26] <JT-Shop> from time to time
[18:31:44] <JT-Shop> I just got a magazine from someone a couple of roads over
[18:32:06] <Tom_itx> so they're usually good enough to get it to you?
[18:32:27] <JT-Shop> usually
[18:32:35] <Tom_itx> that kinda sucks
[18:32:43] <JT-Shop> yea
[18:32:53] <andypugh> Tom_itx: Looks like the answer is probably to make an fstab entry with those flags in it.
[18:33:03] <JT-Shop> I was looking for it yesterday
[18:33:16] <Tom_itx> when i sent it, they said to expect it tuesday
[18:33:24] <Tom_itx> i checked online and it said delivered monday
[18:33:58] <Tom_itx> i just pm'd the info
[18:34:53] <Tom_itx> if it doesn't turn up, i'll send you another one
[18:36:21] <JT-Shop> ok, give it a day or three for them to sort it out
[18:36:39] <Tom_itx> i'd call your local office and ask the guy that delivered it
[18:36:43] <Connor> andypugh: Where do you get 250 per sec on the parport ?
[18:37:02] <andypugh> 1kHz and 4 edges per coiunt.
[18:37:12] <Connor> 1hz the servo thread ?
[18:37:22] <andypugh> Yes (kHz)
[18:37:24] <Connor> cause, we cut it in half.
[18:37:33] <Connor> running 500,000
[18:38:12] <Connor> any idea about getting realtime errors when we first launch linuxcnc ?
[18:41:06] <JT-Shop> one long beep and two short beeps is?
[18:41:09] <Connor> okay, so, gladevcp, how can I bind a key stroke to a widget...
[18:41:50] <Connor> I've got a combo,, and want a key to cycle through the options..
[18:46:50] <JT-Shop> memory not seated well
[18:49:30] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop,
http://www.bioscentral.com/beepcodes/ibmbeep.htm
[18:57:04] <Tom_itx> video error
[18:57:21] <JT-Shop> seems like the Asus E45M1-Pro don't like two 1 gig sticks of memory
[18:57:41] <Tom_itx> get into the video memory map?
[18:57:54] <JT-Shop> dunno
[18:58:05] <JT-Shop> it is suposed to be the supported memory
[18:59:15] <Tom_itx> i called the usps on the package
[18:59:37] <JT-Shop> what did they say
[18:59:54] <Tom_itx> they'll call me in a couple days
[19:00:02] <Tom_itx> but at least they will look into it
[19:00:04] <JT-Shop> sounds about right
[19:00:11] <Tom_itx> i sent you the case number
[19:00:20] <JT-Shop> ok thanks
[19:00:30] <Tom_itx> figured i'd get the ball rolling at least
[19:01:13] <JT-Shop> yea, make them find it LOL
[19:01:39] <Tom_itx> i had that happen to a guy in Au
[19:01:45] <Tom_itx> the local post was just crappy
[19:01:58] <Tom_itx> he finally had it sent to a friend and got it right away
[19:06:55] <Tom_itx> UPS delivered a wrong package to me today too :)
[19:07:05] <Tom_itx> new driver
[19:08:00] <JT-Shop> it's like oh you have to actually read the address before delivering it?
[19:08:11] <Tom_itx> he caught it
[19:08:17] <Tom_itx> once he was back on the truck
[19:08:17] <jdh> my newish next door neighbors have the same last name as me.
[19:08:29] <Tom_itx> gave me a really puzzled look and came back to the door
[19:09:01] <Tom_itx> so we traded boxes and all was good again
[19:09:47] <Tom_itx> jdh, i hope you get along with em
[19:09:52] <JT-Shop> my normal UPS guy is on the ball, when they sub someone else look out
[19:10:07] <Tom_itx> we have 2
[19:10:13] <Tom_itx> commercial and residential
[19:10:26] <jdh> they have 4 small annoying boys, and a yapping dog
[19:10:38] <Tom_itx> i generally get to know them since i get quite a few packages
[19:10:58] <JT-Shop> me too
[19:11:17] <jdh> my front door gets lots of packages, I'm almost always at work.
[19:18:47] <PCW> andypugh: yes external powered device (say 7I66 or 7I70,71,72,84) pull cat5 red light plug in cat 5 red plus green blink
[19:22:21] * JT-Shop wanders inside to be sociable
[19:28:43] <andypugh> PCW: Got it, and fixed it
[19:30:33] <PCW> Great. I dont think there were any practical side effects but it better overall if a channe has trouble to shut down so the remote watchdog can bite
[19:31:50] <PCW> did you fix the lower case folding? (if that's the problem)
[19:32:47] <andypugh> I didn't understand the issue...
[19:33:50] <PCW> in dmesg the sserial modes are printed but the underline char (0x5F) is broken
[19:36:48] <PCW> range of applied lower case folding few chars too far?
[19:39:50] <PCW> should be if chars >64 and < 91 then char <= char | 32
[19:39:55] <andypugh> I don't do anything with the string data at all.
[19:42:08] <andypugh> http://pastebin.com/1qdVPBdX
[19:43:22] <PCW> That's strange since what we see from dmesg is folded into lower case (the original strings are mixed case)
[19:50:30] <PCW> does hm2_sserial_get_bytes do it automatically for strings? (-1 option)
[19:58:01] <PCW> yeah hm2_sserial_get_bytes folds to LC for strings but does not check if its within range before Oring the 0x20
[19:58:03] <PCW> Probably folding should be an option (-2 for no fold?)
[20:00:20] <andypugh> Ah, probably. I am not even sure why it lower-cases stuff at all.
[20:00:46] <andypugh> I will look at it tomorrow or at the weekend.
[20:05:11] <PCW> the pin names are folded but maybe thats done some other way
[20:07:51] <PCW> I guess thats how the pin names are folded but the folding is not quite right (needs to be qualified by >64 and <91)
[20:08:11] <PCW> (A-Z only)
[20:08:56] <PCW> and foldiing is probably not appropriate for mode names
[20:09:26] <andypugh> No. I think I re-used a function without sufficient thought.
[20:11:10] <PCW> it turns out the pin names dont have any characters that are broke by just or-ing with 0x20
[20:11:29] <PCW> broken
[20:11:38] <PCW> but mode names do
[20:11:39] <andypugh> Time to sleep.
[20:11:45] <PCW> 'nite
[20:11:49] <Tom_itx> later andy
[20:15:55] <micges> PCW: improving sserial?
[20:41:28] <PCW> yes found a few bugs
[20:41:40] <PCW> nothing major
[21:23:50] <tjb1> Well, very good chance I will be working at Hardinge
[21:25:01] <jdh> cool
[21:32:45] <tjb1> The Elmira plant is huge
[21:54:40] <r00t4rd3d> button pusher
[22:09:41] <R2E4_> .
[22:36:02] <tjb1> No r00t4rd3d, that job is reserved for you
[22:37:46] <ReadError> tjb1: makin sexy prints?
[22:37:55] <tjb1> havent touched printer in a week
[22:38:05] <ReadError> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25091878/Photo%20Apr%2001%2C%2011%2044%2037%20AM.jpg
[22:38:09] <ReadError> did that the other day
[22:38:46] <tjb1> what slicer?
[22:38:58] <ReadError> 9.9
[22:39:14] <tjb1> ?
[22:40:37] <ReadError> slic3r 0.9.9
[22:40:43] <ReadError> or w/e the newest is
[22:41:03] <tjb1> it that much better than 9.8?
[22:41:25] <ReadError> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25091878/Photo%20Apr%2003%2C%2011%2026%2040%20PM.jpg
[22:42:08] <jdh> how long for that?
[22:42:25] <ReadError> 5hr
[22:42:25] <tjb1> yeah i'm gonna have to try 9.9
[22:42:31] <tjb1> lol
[22:42:34] <tjb1> 9. 9
[22:43:29] <tjb1> kisslicer isnt up to par
[22:43:35] <tjb1> glad I didnt have to pay for license
[23:00:05] <r00t4rd3d> i been designing and making wood mallets the past 2 days :/
[23:01:51] <r00t4rd3d> using thousands in machines to make simple hand tools...
[23:04:45] <r00t4rd3d> clock on reddit
http://i.imgur.com/yNEoZLb.jpg
[23:17:22] <tjb1> thats on imgur
[23:17:24] <tjb1> not reddit
[23:40:17] <r00t4rd3d> its was posted to imgur so it could be put on reddit
