#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-03-27

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[01:22:56] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[01:44:18] <t12> hum
[01:44:28] <t12> how have i fucked up if in grinding my lathe jaws
[01:44:31] <t12> the appear slightly conical
[01:44:46] <t12> they indicate very concentric
[01:46:17] <archivist> how did you support them during grinding
[01:46:26] <t12> backed them out into an id alum ring
[01:46:32] <t12> tight enough so that the ring was distorted
[01:47:01] <t12> however i did that on the tip of the jaws
[01:47:10] <Loetmichel> that was the error
[01:47:18] <t12> so maybe they all moved inwards if theres slop in the scroll?
[01:47:20] <Loetmichel> should have done that at the base
[01:47:21] <archivist> wrong way to mimic normal tightening forces and jaw rocking due to wear
[01:48:00] <t12> should i just move the clamp as close to the scroll as possible
[01:48:04] <t12> some other way to secure it?
[01:48:34] <archivist> I make 3 little spacers so I tighten the jaws onto them leaving the inner clear
[01:49:07] <t12> lemme picture
[01:49:29] <Loetmichel> even better would be to drill 3 holes in the jws on the outermost (deepest) step and than fir a ring to that with plain bolts and CLOSING the chuck to get it tight
[01:49:38] <Loetmichel> s/fir/fit
[01:49:50] <archivist> I close the chuck with my method
[01:50:05] <t12> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0jlnt76hjpj67z1/EMEVKCQKlw
[01:50:06] <archivist> no drilling needed
[01:50:21] <Loetmichel> archivist: thats possible, too
[01:52:29] <mrsun> hmm, the force when tightening outwards isnt the preasure points of the jaws
[01:52:33] <mrsun> :P
[01:53:20] <t12> archivist: spacers that fit in the contact point between the edges of the jaws?
[01:53:27] <t12> s/point/plane
[01:53:48] <archivist> yes the side angle
[01:55:12] <t12> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/fojfu30z17o4jfz/ueHibTX7t1
[01:55:13] <t12> like that?
[01:55:29] <t12> do you have to get them matched in thickness or just use something soft that will distort enough?
[01:55:59] <archivist> I make matched
[01:56:44] <t12> ok i will try that
[01:56:46] <archivist> usually by working with 3 parts cut from the same bit of metal
[01:57:02] <t12> i think i'm only a few thou conical so i didnt mess up that bad
[01:57:03] <t12> heh
[01:58:51] <archivist> the conical amount shows wear in the jaws and chuck
[01:59:28] <t12> will that wear cause problems elsewhere
[01:59:43] <t12> like diffnt conical error at different diamaters or whatnot
[02:00:36] <archivist> it could show up as variable quality of grip and concentricity
[02:01:45] <archivist> look for signs of over tightening too
[02:02:05] <t12> what are those signs?
[02:02:12] <t12> i'm sure the chuck has been much abused over the years
[02:02:24] <t12> at some point do you just get a new chuck
[02:03:38] <archivist> 3 jaw chucks are never perfect, just learn to live with what you have
[02:05:10] <t12> is there a way to get around the additive error of chuck mount -> test bar -> tailstock alignment
[02:05:45] <archivist> just got firefox restarted, yes link that picture but maybe with larger bits like http://www.archivist.info/openoffice/t12.jpeg
[02:06:09] <t12> ok yeah
[02:06:10] <t12> that makes sense
[02:06:16] <t12> that will be straightforward to build
[02:07:36] <archivist> tailstock/headstock alignment is another can of worms
[02:10:20] <t12> yeah :(
[02:10:35] <t12> my understanding is that you align the tailstock axis with a testbar axis
[02:10:53] <t12> i guess you could cheat and align the tailstock to the spindle without chuck
[02:10:58] <t12> and eat the bed error?
[02:12:28] <archivist> t12, http://www.archivist.info/cnc/schlesinger/fig0019.jpg
[02:13:13] <archivist> I should scan some more of the methods from that book one day
[02:13:35] <t12> treat it like shaft alignment?
[02:14:34] <t12> i guess you can just hand adjust the test bar absurdly until it indicates concentric as possible where youre indicating?
[02:14:50] <archivist> there are two errors, which do you have?
[02:15:17] <t12> or turn down something arbitrary near the tailstock, dead center and indicate from there?
[02:15:34] <archivist> is the headstock axis in line with the bed as well as the tailtstock error
[02:15:45] <t12> unknown
[02:16:41] <t12> what's normally the reference axis in a lathe
[02:16:44] <t12> the bed's?
[02:16:56] <t12> spindles seems hardest to adjust?
[02:17:23] <archivist> well is the bed straight, worn or twisted, all have to be tested to get anywhere close
[02:17:46] <archivist> has the bed been levelled
[02:19:03] <t12> hum
[02:19:11] <t12> not worn (by eye)
[02:19:19] <t12> i need to check/adjust level
[02:19:55] <t12> straight, twisted would be indicate from apron to bed v's?
[02:20:56] <archivist> test bar in the morse taper and dti on the saddle should show some bed faults after you have levelled
[02:26:34] <t12> spindle taper? tailstock taper?
[02:26:47] <t12> thanks for all the help btw
[02:26:51] <t12> i clearly dont know what i'm doing :)
[02:27:19] <archivist> measuring a worn lathe can be fun
[02:27:33] <t12> its unclear how to interpert this lathe
[02:27:39] <t12> it's sat in a university so that means
[02:27:45] <t12> mostly unused, and when used likley badly
[02:27:46] <archivist> I wish I could afford the toys to do it properly
[02:28:25] <archivist> I know both my lathes in the garage are worn due to use
[02:31:43] <archivist> I can feel a ridge on the V on the southbend, probably 10 to 15 thou, has the saddle worn as much, therefore the saddle could be 20-30 thou below in the most worn part
[02:33:20] <t12> sounds like i need more tooling to really dial this in
[02:51:10] <t12> lol
[02:51:20] <t12> dont tell me this thing has a morse 4 1/2 spindle
[02:52:01] <archivist> there are other tapers,
[02:53:45] <t12> it is indeed 4 1/2
[03:07:19] <DJ9DJ> moin
[03:39:43] <tjtr33> this mechanism and kins are interesting, may resolve soem gantry probs, may not be accurate, dunno, but IS clever, http://multimechatronics.com/images/uploads/courses/h_Bot/H-Bot%20Web%20Site%20Slides%205-11-2011.pdf
[06:52:58] <R2E4> mornin all
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[09:10:13] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: you there?
[09:33:34] <Aero-Tec> hello
[09:33:50] <Aero-Tec> I seem to have a problem with setting tool table
[09:34:10] <Aero-Tec> what is the trick to getting it right?
[09:34:47] <Aero-Tec> I do touch off and select tool table, but it is not entered right
[09:35:07] <Aero-Tec> not sure why
[09:35:09] <cradek> explain
[09:35:35] <Aero-Tec> I use tool 1 as the main reference tool
[09:36:06] <Aero-Tec> so I zero tool one and then load the next tool
[09:36:14] <cradek> wait
[09:36:20] <cradek> what do you mean you zero tool one
[09:36:23] <Aero-Tec> do tool change
[09:36:26] <cradek> what exactly are you doing
[09:36:42] <Aero-Tec> I have no home switches
[09:37:17] <Aero-Tec> so I do a test cut with tool 1 and use that to set zero for the machine
[09:37:52] <Aero-Tec> well the user off sets
[09:38:01] <Aero-Tec> or part offsets
[09:38:52] <Aero-Tec> when that is set I then load the new tool and do a touch off with new tool and select tool table
[09:39:26] <Aero-Tec> seams to me there is also some other thing I have to do or set for this to work right
[09:39:40] <cradek> I do not understand exactly what you do when you "use that to set zero for the machine"
[09:39:57] <cradek> you're not being precise enough for us to understand and tell what you're doing
[09:40:02] <Aero-Tec> been awhile, not sure if memory is recalling things the right way
[09:40:16] <cradek> ok you're not sure what you did?
[09:40:37] <Aero-Tec> when I turn the machine on
[09:40:39] <cradek> maybe go back and try again and make careful notes of what buttons you push, what numbers you enter, etc. --- then someone else can try it and see what's going wrong
[09:41:52] <Aero-Tec> I load some scrap stock
[09:42:52] <Aero-Tec> I do a light cut in both x and z and enter the measurements in the touch off box
[09:43:29] <Aero-Tec> using tool 1.......z is easy, it is 0 all the time
[09:44:02] <cradek> do you home before you do this?
[09:44:14] <Aero-Tec> but x has to be measured and the number entered into the touch off box
[09:44:19] <Aero-Tec> yes
[09:44:40] <Aero-Tec> but home is some random place
[09:45:36] <Aero-Tec> when I have set user off set
[09:45:42] <cradek> what kind of machine is it? do you have encoder index?
[09:46:06] <Aero-Tec> I then use that to set the new tools up
[09:46:11] <Aero-Tec> lathe
[09:46:32] <Aero-Tec> what is encoder index?
[09:46:43] <cradek> do you have encoders? or is it steppers?
[09:46:54] <Aero-Tec> I have a spindle index
[09:47:08] <Aero-Tec> servo with emcoders
[09:47:15] <Aero-Tec> no index
[09:47:23] <cradek> your encoders don't have index channels?
[09:47:30] <Aero-Tec> no
[09:47:55] <cradek> darn. with index you could have perfect homing, even without switches
[09:47:58] <Aero-Tec> the spindle is only index
[09:48:13] <Aero-Tec> how?
[09:48:29] <Aero-Tec> I am wanting to get new incoders
[09:48:48] <cradek> index-only homing: jog to some reference marks and issue home from there, it just seeks the index
[09:48:49] <Aero-Tec> need to update for more inputs
[09:49:03] <Aero-Tec> cool
[09:49:04] <cradek> I use that on a rotary table
[09:49:23] <cradek> no easy way to put a switch, but there's an index pulse every few degrees
[09:49:23] <Aero-Tec> so you get close and it does the reat
[09:49:42] <Aero-Tec> rest
[09:49:51] <cradek> yes you just have to position it between two known index positions
[09:50:34] <cradek> even without index, I suggest you make reference marks and home to them by jogging there manually. Then you can have the protection of soft limits, and all your saved offsets will be close
[09:50:44] <Aero-Tec> if you used index and switch you would be perfect
[09:51:18] <cradek> sure, a switch makes homing easier because you don't have to manually position the machine, but you can get perfect (to one encoder pulse) homing without switches
[09:51:52] <cradek> if you can mark your screws too somehow, a sort of "manual index" you can get pretty reproducable homing, all manually
[09:52:07] <JT-Shop> Aero-Tec: have you seen this? http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/index.html
[09:52:08] <cradek> I've done this on a machine with handwheels
[09:52:34] <Aero-Tec> so if I wanted touch off to be referenced to a user offset and not home how would I do that
[09:52:42] <Aero-Tec> that could be the problem
[09:53:47] <cradek> Aero-Tec: well you can do what you want, but I suspect you are making a mistake when you do it.
[09:54:32] <cradek> you can set tool offset of tool 1 to all zero, and use that to touch off to G54, and then with G54 active touch off to tool table the rest of the tools
[09:54:34] <Aero-Tec> for right now I have little choice
[09:54:36] <R2E4> hi cradek
[09:55:10] <Aero-Tec> G54?
[09:55:24] <Aero-Tec> will have to look that up
[09:56:28] <Aero-Tec> Verify that Machine > Touch off to fixture is selected.
[09:56:32] <cradek> when you use the touch off window BE VERY CAREFUL that you are sending your offsets to the right place
[09:56:40] <Aero-Tec> I think that is the missing thing
[09:56:57] <cradek> you want tool 1's offsets to be all zero, and the rest of the tools will have offsets that represent how much different from tool 1 they are
[09:56:59] <Loetmichel> *grrr* i deleted one G00z2.0 to much -> workpiece -> trash /*grrr*
[09:58:09] <Aero-Tec> I hate when that happens
[09:58:38] <Aero-Tec> missing or misplace decimal
[09:59:08] <Aero-Tec> there are so may ways to mess up and make a mess
[10:00:07] <Aero-Tec> being dyslexic adds some fun to things as well
[10:01:52] <Aero-Tec> cradek: yes, 100% right
[10:02:12] <jdh> I misplaced a decimal straight into my vise
[10:02:55] <Aero-Tec> easy do
[10:14:35] <Aero-Tec> cradek: yes G54, feeling brain dead, time for more coffee or something
[10:15:02] <cradek> did you figure it out?
[10:15:13] <Aero-Tec> Verify that Machine > Touch off to fixture is selected.
[10:15:22] <Aero-Tec> I think that is the missing thing
[10:15:41] <Aero-Tec> will have to check and make sure it was set
[10:15:41] <cradek> I would not bet on it :-)
[10:16:25] <Aero-Tec> want to set tool offset of tool 1 to all zero, and use that to touch off to G54, and then with G54 active touch off to tool table the rest of the tools
[10:16:27] <cradek> in fact if you're not homing repeatably, I think you do NOT want to enable that
[10:17:03] <Aero-Tec> open to suggestions
[10:17:16] <cradek> I bet you have unwanted offsets on T1 and are not ending up with G54 set correctly
[10:17:51] <cradek> look at your tool table and see. maybe pastebin it to share here.
[10:17:54] <Aero-Tec> how would be the best way to one tool one to set the rest of the tools?
[10:18:21] <Aero-Tec> the tool table is good
[10:18:32] <Aero-Tec> just need to get the right numbers into it
[10:18:48] <cradek> haha
[10:18:57] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/7KESvT0.jpg
[10:19:04] <r00t4rd3d> im a photoshop master
[10:19:36] <r00t4rd3d> orig http://i.imgur.com/4Sj6eec.jpg
[10:19:40] <Aero-Tec> lol
[10:20:31] <cradek> the poor north korean people :-(
[10:20:57] <pcw_home> What a mess
[10:21:30] <r00t4rd3d> i say we nuke em all
[10:21:58] <cradek> good idea. that'll teach all those people who didn't even elect the brat
[10:21:59] <pcw_home> Send Dennis Rodman back
[10:22:15] <Aero-Tec> Machine > Touch off to workpiece
[10:22:31] <r00t4rd3d> yeah send rodman back right before we drop the nukes
[10:22:41] <Aero-Tec> would this be better if wanting all touch off to use G54?
[10:23:02] <r00t4rd3d> dude what does that have to do with north korea?
[10:23:13] <r00t4rd3d> :)
[10:23:59] <Aero-Tec> hey nuke them, but I need to find out how to get my tool table fixed
[10:24:16] <r00t4rd3d> first world problems
[10:24:17] <cradek> Aero-Tec: pastebin your tool table
[10:24:50] <pcw_home> I suspect this sword rattling is not good for tourism (The DPRK website has lots of nice tourist info)
[10:25:48] <Loetmichel> sooo, next 3 aluminium casings...
[10:26:16] <cradek> pcw_home: I suspect it's not good for anything except a little boy's ego
[10:26:29] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14148 ... http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14151 (one for the trash)
[10:28:42] <cradek> oops the middle one is not quite right...
[10:29:31] <Aero-Tec> http://pastebin.com/FbB6K8PW
[10:29:40] <Loetmichel> like i said: deleted one G00z2 to much
[10:29:45] <Loetmichel> :-)
[10:30:11] <Aero-Tec> like I said the tool table is fine, the numbers in it are not
[10:30:28] <Aero-Tec> need to get the right numbers in the right place
[10:30:47] <cradek> dude
[10:30:52] <cradek> the numbers tell us what you've done
[10:31:05] <cradek> getting the numbers right will happen after you get your process figured out
[10:31:07] <jdh> loetmichel: is that homemade or chinese?
[10:31:26] <DJ9DJ> homemade by chinese ;)
[10:31:29] <Loetmichel> chinese
[10:32:56] <Aero-Tec> all the tool setting are right except T9
[10:33:29] <Aero-Tec> I have done this before and got it right, but that time I had to mess around to get it right as well
[10:33:49] <Aero-Tec> want to know what I am doing wrong
[10:34:24] <cradek> rest assured we'd all like to know that too!
[10:46:16] <tjb1> Tom_itx: You here?
[11:28:28] <Loetmichel> sooo, first of 10 pSUs done... 9 to follow... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14154 ... tomorrow ;-)
[11:51:53] <tjb1> Anyone have a laser cutter?
[11:53:25] <archivist> more than one, ask the real questions
[11:53:58] <tjb1> I need something cut
[11:55:03] <Connor> Loetmichel: Your making your own PSUs?
[11:55:05] <Tom_itx> anyone in your locale with a laser cutter willing to cut some parts for you
[11:55:08] <tjb1> Roughly a 250mm equilateral triangle out of 3/16-1/4 acrylic
[11:55:26] <tjb1> We have one at school but the teacher cant figure out how to get it to cut and it doesnt have an exhaust yet
[11:55:38] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[11:55:39] <Tom_itx> so cut it on a table saw
[11:55:59] <tjb1> It's not just a triangle
[11:56:05] <tjb1> It has a lot of other stuff in it
[11:56:12] <Tom_itx> Roughly a 250mm equilateral triangle
[11:56:21] <cpresser> cutting that will only take about 1-2min per piece.
[11:56:21] <tjb1> Yeah, for quick estimate
[11:56:32] <Connor> Loetmichel: Was it you who was asking about Dragon Flies? Never found out why you needed it translated... :)
[11:56:35] <cpresser> (with a 60-80W laser)
[11:56:37] <tjb1> It has etching, corners cut, holes
[11:56:41] <Tom_itx> so you get the estimate then change the order?
[11:57:09] <tjb1> No, I am saying the rough size of the piece.
[11:57:23] <r00t4rd3d> put a laser on your cnc
[11:57:32] <Tom_itx> cnc it
[11:58:06] <tjb1> A laser is cnc
[11:58:07] <r00t4rd3d> send me the dxf and 100 bucks
[11:59:15] <Tom_itx> send me the dxf and 99 bucks
[11:59:26] <Connor> ROFL
[12:00:08] * cpresser will do it for 80+shipping :)
[12:00:20] <Tom_itx> which comes out to 100?
[12:00:23] <tjb1> Does this include the price of acrylic?
[12:00:30] <r00t4rd3d> mine does
[12:00:34] <r00t4rd3d> and shipping
[12:00:35] <Tom_itx> i can get acrylic
[12:01:00] <r00t4rd3d> ill even draw goatse on the box
[12:01:08] <Tom_itx> i won't
[12:01:10] <Tom_itx> :)
[12:01:49] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, you need just 1 ?
[12:01:55] <tjb1> yes
[12:02:23] <r00t4rd3d> 250mm triangle?
[12:02:38] <tjb1> About that shape…with other features
[12:03:04] <r00t4rd3d> you gonna make the dxf?
[12:03:08] <tjb1> Yes
[12:03:43] <r00t4rd3d> ill do it for nothing if you pay for everything
[12:03:53] <tjb1> Where do you live?
[12:03:54] <r00t4rd3d> shipping, plastic
[12:03:55] <r00t4rd3d> ny
[12:04:12] <r00t4rd3d> 8 hours from you
[12:04:33] <tjb1> What are you doing this on?
[12:04:38] <r00t4rd3d> cnc router
[12:05:30] <tjb1> ok
[12:05:39] <tjb1> Ill see what I can come up with
[12:05:45] <tjb1> What size cutter?
[12:05:51] <Connor> tjb1: Don't you have a CNC yet ?
[12:05:56] <r00t4rd3d> matters what you want in it
[12:05:56] <tjb1> Just plasma
[12:06:39] <r00t4rd3d> i have .0625 .125 .25 endmills
[12:06:56] <r00t4rd3d> .0625 tapered ballnose
[12:08:00] <r00t4rd3d> and other various engraving bits
[12:08:08] <r00t4rd3d> v type stuff
[12:08:16] <tjb1> no ball?
[12:08:23] <tjb1> oh nevermind
[12:08:48] <r00t4rd3d> i have a .125 ball too but i never used it
[12:08:54] <r00t4rd3d> not sure how well it works
[12:09:01] <r00t4rd3d> in plastic, probably good
[12:09:01] <cpresser> commercial service: http://www.customlasercutting.com/info/pricing
[12:09:22] <Aero-Tec> any luck with my tool table problem?
[12:09:40] <Aero-Tec> is g92 a factor?
[12:09:45] <Connor> tjb1: So, Slap a Bosh Colt on it.. and go for it.. :)
[12:10:02] <tjb1> I have a 611 dewalt
[12:10:03] <Aero-Tec> one just need to make sure it is set to zero I would think
[12:10:04] <r00t4rd3d> he is scared
[12:10:58] <tjb1> I havent found a way to mount the spoilboard…I will get it
[12:11:01] <r00t4rd3d> lowes sells acrylic sheets too i think
[12:12:18] <tjb1> I have to go pick up material to cut on plasma, cya
[12:12:19] <r00t4rd3d> i need to go cut a sign
[12:14:50] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/OG3ZPEH.jpg
[12:15:08] <Connor> r00t4rd3d: What kinds of bits are you using for signs ?
[12:15:23] <r00t4rd3d> v grooves
[12:15:33] <Connor> What size ?
[12:15:36] <r00t4rd3d> 90 degree, 1/2 cut
[12:15:54] <Connor> you doing single stoke fonts?
[12:16:44] <r00t4rd3d> rarely ever, truetype
[12:17:01] <Connor> What CAM you using ?
[12:17:04] <r00t4rd3d> aspire
[12:17:34] <Connor> I've done some minor engraving with my mill.. Thinking about making a sign and some plaques with my router...
[12:18:13] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CMT-815-127-11-90-Degree-V-Grooving-Router-Bit-1-4-Inch-Shank-1-2-Inch-Cutting-/350729506436?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item51a91b8e84
[12:18:23] <r00t4rd3d> get something like that
[12:18:37] <r00t4rd3d> then i use just a .25 endmill for the profile/cutout.
[12:19:32] <Connor> how big of a work envelope is your machine ?
[12:19:59] <r00t4rd3d> 12x25
[12:20:21] <Connor> mine is 12x18.
[12:20:26] <r00t4rd3d> newb
[12:20:41] <Connor> You making money with it ?
[12:20:49] <r00t4rd3d> yeah all the time
[12:20:57] <JT-Shop> carp, the E45 M1-M Pro doesn't support 512Mb memory chips and that's all I have...
[12:21:11] <r00t4rd3d> my table is 36 but my router bit can only move over 25 inches
[12:21:31] <Connor> http://www.ivdc.com/cnc/cnc13.JPG
[12:21:43] <r00t4rd3d> i can split a dxf in half though and slide a board forward and do longer
[12:22:37] <JT-Shop> do you make registration holes in the board?
[12:23:21] <r00t4rd3d> nah I just mark it with a pencil
[12:24:17] <r00t4rd3d> Connor, since this pic ive changed my gantry linear carriages to the extended version and redid my z axis using the carriages i took off my gantry
[12:24:18] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/Sc92POM.jpg
[12:24:35] <Connor> I built mine as a multipurpose machine.. Was going to use it for 3d printing.. pcb engraving and routing.. but.. I think I've come to the realization that it's going to be hard to convert it back and forth from printing to routing.. way too much cleanup..
[12:25:09] <Connor> okay, Yea, I've seen that one before...
[12:25:18] <Connor> where you getting your work from ?
[12:25:37] <Connor> I want to make some extra $$ but.. not make it a full time job.. as I have one already... :)
[12:25:48] <r00t4rd3d> word of mouth and craigslist
[12:26:17] <JT-Shop> r00t4rd3d: cool machine
[12:26:20] <Connor> how much Z travel you have ?
[12:26:44] <r00t4rd3d> in that pic about 12 inches
[12:26:59] <r00t4rd3d> now its like 5-6
[12:27:46] <Connor> Mine was suppose to have 6".. but I forgot to take into account the bull nut length.. not to mention.. 6" would have made it too tall to fit inside the enclosure..
[12:27:55] <r00t4rd3d> and its only that much cause i like raising it up to change my bit
[12:28:33] <r00t4rd3d> i really only need 4 inches max
[12:29:38] <Connor> Aspire handles the V-carving for the fonts okay ?
[12:29:50] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[12:30:02] <r00t4rd3d> effortless
[12:30:35] <Connor> I use CamBam.. only way it handles vcarve is single stroke fonts..
[12:30:55] <r00t4rd3d> i got a bunch of them but dont ever use them
[12:31:28] <r00t4rd3d> I have 8,455 Fonts Installed.
[12:31:32] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[12:31:44] <Connor> I used truetype-tracer when I did the Dog Tags.. that worked really well.. except.. for that small.. it made allot of uneeded movements.. because you couldn't even see the detail.
[12:45:45] <Connor> one mistake I made on my router.. I didn't make it so it was easy to adjust.. I didn't realize how accurate I need to be on the Z for some of the stuff I wanted to do.
[13:01:12] <c60> Anyone here use Enroute with linuxcnc? just trying to figure out what the best host for export is.
[13:08:52] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[13:17:45] <Aero-Tec> looks like I did the tool table right
[13:18:03] <Aero-Tec> z working fine for z for tool 9
[13:18:31] <Aero-Tec> but for some strange reason the x is not right
[13:23:05] <Aero-Tec> when running a program EMC seems to be in dia mode
[13:24:00] <Aero-Tec> but in the MDI it seems to be in radius mode
[13:24:08] <Aero-Tec> is that posable?
[13:24:31] <Aero-Tec> no G7 in the Gcode
[13:25:32] <Aero-Tec> when the Gcode does a tool change it looks like dia mode yet in the MDI the tool change is radius mode
[13:26:58] <Aero-Tec> just added G8 to the INI string in the Gcode
[13:27:07] <Aero-Tec> will see if that works
[13:52:23] <IchGuckLive> is the wiki side down
[14:07:49] <andypugh> Aero-Tec: cradek: You can get to 0.001" just by aligning scribed marks. So that can make a pretty good index. If you couldn't judge the alignment of two sribed marks to 0.001" then vernier calipers wouldn't work.
[14:10:33] <cradek> but vernier calipers don't really work to .001"... :-)
[14:10:41] <cradek> nevertheless, point taken
[14:10:55] <cradek> he should definitely home to marks, if for no other reason than to get soft limits
[14:11:04] <archivist> and you dont compare just two lines on a vernier
[14:11:20] <skunkworks> you make a 'best guess' ;)
[14:12:51] <archivist> I must take pictures of a "vernier" I have here, it is digital with pegs
[14:12:59] <andypugh> archivist: Oh, but you do. All a vernier does is give you a pair of lines to compare for every thou.
[14:13:42] <archivist> you look for the best in a bunch of lines
[14:14:22] <andypugh> Yes, so you pick the one that is exactly aligned out of the ones that aren't.
[14:14:29] <archivist> I have some verniers with magnifiers
[14:15:07] <andypugh> I had a horrible one on a microscope. It was calibrated in 50ths of a mm.
[14:15:09] <archivist> you hope you pick the right pair
[14:16:37] <andypugh> You can read a tape measure to 0.01". Just not any arbitrary length to that precision.
[14:18:29] <andypugh> I used to have a tape measure that read to 0.001". It was a pi-tape with a vernier on the end. The factor of 3-and-a-bit helped.
[14:21:06] <andypugh> Like http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NOS-USA-PI-28-200mm-Outside-Diameter-Tape-4-Lathe-/390301037981 only cheaper.
[14:31:16] <syyl> i am getting close to finish the ressurection of my tool&cutter grinder :D
[14:31:51] <syyl> i also get a not-to-bad finish, when using it as a surface grinder..
[14:31:59] <syyl> one happy guy ;)
[14:32:50] <syyl> as bought
[14:32:51] <syyl> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/Reime%20RS150/IMAG0179.jpg
[14:33:20] <syyl> close-to-done
[14:33:20] <syyl> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/Reime%20RS150/IMG_1689.JPG
[14:34:13] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: jthornton https://www.youtube.com/embed/REP4S0uqEOc
[14:59:26] <Aero-Tec> the G8 will not work, T1 is fine yet T9 is way out to lunch
[14:59:47] <Aero-Tec> there was no G7 or G8 in the code
[15:07:50] <Aero-Tec> so what would make the MDI work fine yet running Gcode be out to lunch
[15:08:00] <Aero-Tec> I must be missing something
[15:08:43] <Aero-Tec> the program ends with T9
[15:09:23] <Aero-Tec> and the X DRO reading is out to lunch
[15:10:07] <Aero-Tec> yet going into the MDI and doing a tool change to T9 changes the reading yet the program says T9 is active
[15:12:41] <cradek> do you mean you are loading the tool with T9 M6 G43?
[15:15:33] <Aero-Tec> T9 M6 in Gcode
[15:15:44] <Aero-Tec> T9 M6 G43 in MDI
[15:18:37] <Aero-Tec> do you need the G43 in a Gcode program?
[15:35:38] <Aero-Tec> G43 fixed the problem
[15:36:06] <Aero-Tec> thanks for the help
[15:36:35] <Aero-Tec> Mach Gcode converting
[15:47:54] <tjb1> Got some stainless to cut on the plasma :D
[17:16:38] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:30:40] <tjb1> JT-Shop: Do you use sheetcam on ubuntu?
[18:03:17] <r00t4rd3d> nother sign down
[18:06:46] <r00t4rd3d> designed, cut, painted and polished in 2 hours
[18:09:48] <r00t4rd3d> I need an air brush
[18:43:45] <JT-Shop> tjb1 yes
[18:47:42] <r00t4rd3d> Prostate Exam Simulator
[18:47:44] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/PDuz5YR.jpg
[18:48:16] <r00t4rd3d> Looks like it may be ran off a Arduino
[18:49:30] <r00t4rd3d> probably providing sensor input
[18:54:23] <JT-Shop> went for a ride on my bike and got it all muddy and broke the seat and discovered how much out of shape I am after a winter of eating too much
[18:54:54] <r00t4rd3d> pedal?
[18:55:21] <JT-Shop> aye a Giant trail bike
[19:00:15] <andypugh> Good job you didn't go for the Dwarf trail bke then.
[19:02:35] <JT-Shop> I would have squashed it LOL
[19:03:55] <JT-Shop> this is like mine http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/revel.1/11523/55890/
[19:04:17] <JT-Shop> an entry level bike for fat old farts
[19:04:36] <JT-Shop> I have the blue one
[19:05:27] <tjb1> JT-Shop: Did you see my earlier message?
[19:05:39] <JT-Shop> yep did you see my reply?
[19:06:21] <tjb1> no
[19:06:28] <Tom_itx> <JT-Shop> tjb1 yes
[19:06:35] <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop> tjb1 yes
[19:06:39] <JT-Shop> lol
[19:06:46] <tjb1> Does it remember settings with a license?
[19:06:52] <tjb1> Or is that a bug with the linux version
[19:06:56] <JT-Shop> I don't have a clue
[19:07:11] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: you make a pic programmer?
[19:07:14] <tjb1> Every time I start it I have to set all the settings and pick the post processor, etc
[19:07:20] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, no just avr
[19:07:29] <Tom_itx> i have a pic programmer though
[19:07:30] <tjb1> By the way Tom_itx, they aren't happy in #reprap
[19:07:30] <JT-Shop> I don't have that problem
[19:07:46] <Tom_itx> tjb1, why?
[19:07:49] <tjb1> Hopefully it's because I didnt add the license yet
[19:07:55] <tjb1> Logging
[19:07:58] <Tom_itx> i don't care
[19:08:00] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Alright, but it lacks that certain something. See if you can spot it in this one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/GasGas_EC200_2000.jpg
[19:08:09] <JT-Shop> http://cq.cx/ladder.pl
[19:08:22] <JT-Shop> hmmm a motor?
[19:08:26] <Tom_itx> tjb1, it's a public forum and the topic says it may be logged
[19:08:28] <andypugh> Aye
[19:08:51] <tjb1> Actually the topic did say no publically accessible logging
[19:08:57] <Tom_itx> or at least it did
[19:09:08] <JT-Shop> I sold my XL200 and GZ250 to make room for the blue spyder
[19:09:35] <Tom_itx> tjb1, i don't know why they're so uptight about it
[19:09:47] <tjb1> Well they were all mad about it earlier
[19:09:53] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: did you see the ladder program for avr and pic?
[19:09:59] <Tom_itx> yes
[19:10:15] <Tom_itx> tjb1, today?
[19:10:16] <JT-Shop> what did you think about that?
[19:10:24] <tjb1> yes
[19:10:25] <andypugh> I find myself thinking about changing my design so I can make it out of the material I have available. But that doesn't seem right. (it won't be as good if I use 3" dia to suit my bar, rather than 3.125"
[19:10:29] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, i probably wouldn't use it
[19:10:42] <JT-Shop> just do straight programming?
[19:10:47] <Tom_itx> i do
[19:11:35] <andypugh> I have 4 days to fill over easter. I was going to visit my parents, so haven't got any stock in. I can't visit them, because their village is totally inaccessible due to snow. They had a snow drift up to the chimney pot on saturday.
[19:11:38] <JT-Shop> my application is very simple, I need to count an input to some number like 100 then turn on an output
[19:11:41] <tjb1> Tom_itx: 10:38:26
[19:11:41] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, why... are you going to do simething with an avr?
[19:12:06] <Tom_itx> tjb1, i removed it for a while and got complaints that it was gone too
[19:12:13] <Tom_itx> so i put it back online
[19:12:16] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: yes I need a simple counter
[19:12:20] <JT-Shop> with one output
[19:12:27] <Tom_itx> how many input?
[19:12:32] <JT-Shop> one
[19:12:33] <Tom_itx> use a tiny 10
[19:12:36] <Tom_itx> 6pin chip
[19:12:40] <Tom_itx> 4 io
[19:12:44] <Tom_itx> 16bit timer
[19:13:02] <JT-Shop> your programmer does that?
[19:13:10] <Tom_itx> yes
[19:13:17] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/temp/tiny/tinyTPI1.jpg
[19:13:30] <Tom_itx> it uses the TPI protocol for those
[19:13:36] <Tom_itx> instead of ISP
[19:13:45] <JT-Shop> ah you lost me now
[19:13:54] <Tom_itx> just another programming protocol
[19:14:01] <JT-Shop> ok
[19:14:06] <Tom_itx> avr has 3 basic ones, ISP, TPI and PDI
[19:14:14] <JT-Shop> ok
[19:14:16] <Tom_itx> ISP is for most 8bit avrs
[19:14:22] <Tom_itx> PDI is for the xmegas
[19:14:34] <Tom_itx> and TPI is just for the attiny 4 5 9 and 10
[19:14:38] <Tom_itx> 6 pin chips
[19:14:51] <JT-Shop> I need to switch a opto with the output and the input is a magnet reed switch
[19:14:54] <Tom_itx> mine supports all 3
[19:15:15] <JT-Shop> sold
[19:15:20] <Tom_itx> the tiny10 has internal osc 12mhz
[19:15:37] <Tom_itx> so you really don't need much for external components except passives
[19:16:12] <JT-Shop> cool
[19:16:25] <JT-Shop> this is for a tipping bucket rain gauge
[19:16:33] <Tom_itx> i don't have any more of those boards or i'd give you one
[19:17:00] <JT-Shop> does the tiny 10 come in a pin version?
[19:17:04] <Tom_itx> no
[19:17:13] <Tom_itx> just sot23-6
[19:17:14] <Tom_itx> afik
[19:17:31] <Tom_itx> there's other tinys that do
[19:17:35] <JT-Shop> be easier to prototype if I could use a breadboard
[19:17:50] <Tom_itx> but it's just so small and would work for that
[19:18:31] <JT-Shop> will it turn an opto on and off?
[19:18:46] <Tom_itx> i don't see why not
[19:19:05] <Tom_itx> just like any other avr just small
[19:19:08] <JT-Shop> ok, I don't have much of a clue about this...
[19:19:46] <JT-Shop> I did see that you need a 330Mohm or something on the switch side of the opto
[19:19:48] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure what tiny avrs come in dip but i'm sure some do
[19:19:57] <Tom_itx> just about any of them would work for that
[19:19:59] <JT-Shop> same as a led
[19:20:04] <JT-Shop> cool
[19:20:16] <Tom_itx> just for the opto led yes
[19:20:20] <JT-Shop> what software do you use for avr's?
[19:20:32] <Tom_itx> winavr
[19:20:39] <Tom_itx> gnu c
[19:20:50] <Tom_itx> and the notepad that comes with it
[19:20:56] <Tom_itx> you can use studio if you want
[19:21:17] <Tom_itx> i use studio to upload the code just because it's easier
[19:21:30] <Tom_itx> but avrdude works just fine, it's just a cmd line program is all
[19:21:40] <L84Supper> anyone ever use the CAM tools in NX (unigraphics) to generated G-code for LinuxCNC?
[19:22:08] <JT-Shop> OK Tom, I'll chew on this a bit and buzz you tomorrow
[19:22:11] <JT-Shop> thanks
[19:22:18] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/avr/studio/
[19:22:31] <Tom_itx> you can pull studio there if you want, that way you don't need to register with them
[19:22:40] <JT-Shop> ok cool
[19:22:43] <Tom_itx> studio 4 is good enough
[19:22:49] <Tom_itx> get that and the service pack for it
[19:23:14] <Tom_itx> avrstudio4setup418.exe and avrstudio4.18sp3.exe
[19:23:36] <Tom_itx> you will still need winavr though for the c
[19:24:08] <JT-Shop> run setup I assume
[19:24:14] <Tom_itx> yup
[19:24:26] <JT-Shop> ok
[19:24:35] <Tom_itx> what ver windows?
[19:24:50] <JT-Shop> here is win 7 I think
[19:24:55] <Tom_itx> should be ok
[19:25:25] <JT-Shop> yep win 7 here and win xp pro down in the beer cave
[19:25:41] <Tom_itx> http://sourceforge.net/projects/winavr/files/
[19:26:30] <JT-Shop> ok downloading
[19:26:57] <JT-Shop> dinner bell for me
[19:27:00] <JT-Shop> thanks
[19:27:06] <Tom_itx> yup
[19:28:10] <Tom_itx> that comes with programmers notepad which is what i use to write c
[19:30:36] <Tom_itx> tjb1, that was the only mention of it at all
[19:30:47] <tjb1> Actually they were talking about it
[19:30:53] <tjb1> A few of them
[19:53:26] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/dtsX7B8.jpg
[19:53:51] <tjb1> what happened r00t4rd3d ?
[19:54:00] <tjb1> dec-ember?
[19:54:29] <r00t4rd3d> i need to sand the middle of that again, just touched it up
[19:55:16] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: how much prep work do you do on the wood even before carving?
[19:55:22] <r00t4rd3d> none
[19:55:26] <tjb1> married or kid?
[19:55:48] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: I see radius edges and corners
[19:56:13] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, this really looks like your description, count to N, then output a pulse of width W http://tutorialelectronic.com/?p=302
[19:56:15] <r00t4rd3d> i put painters or masking tape over the wood
[19:56:32] <tjtr33> it aint an attiny10 but shoudl be close
[19:56:39] <r00t4rd3d> Jymmm, i had my machine do that, i sanded it some by hand too
[19:57:59] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, and the Pickit2 is very compatible with pics :) ( also is a debugger )
[19:58:00] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: how long to dry before sanding the paint?
[19:58:12] <r00t4rd3d> hour or so
[19:58:15] <r00t4rd3d> i mask it
[19:58:21] <r00t4rd3d> so not much sanding
[19:58:39] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: there's still bleed. water based paint?
[19:58:46] <Jymmm> laytex? oil?
[19:59:00] <r00t4rd3d> acyclic in my cuts then a coat of oil
[19:59:10] <r00t4rd3d> err
[19:59:21] <r00t4rd3d> acrylic
[19:59:24] <Jymmm> oh, thts what it drys quickly.
[19:59:32] <Jymmm> why
[19:59:46] <r00t4rd3d> i got a mini heat gun I use sometimes but it was warm enoug out today
[20:00:13] <Jymmm> k
[20:04:42] <r00t4rd3d> board i used was warped too and i could only clamp the ends
[20:05:09] <r00t4rd3d> they are little deeper in the middle but i dont really give a shit for the price i charged
[20:07:10] <Jymmm> which was?
[20:07:16] <r00t4rd3d> what
[20:07:27] <Jymmm> the price i charged
[20:07:33] <r00t4rd3d> 45 each
[20:07:37] <Jymmm> k
[20:08:12] <r00t4rd3d> i got the oak for 10 bucks
[20:08:18] <r00t4rd3d> for both of them :)
[20:08:25] <r00t4rd3d> enough^
[21:03:02] <tjtr33> if i use pncconf with a 5i20 and only ask for 3 stepgens, the produced config makes only 6 pins (xyz step/dir pirs)
[21:03:10] <tjtr33> The other pins are gpio. Are there unused gates available for custom functions? ( timers counters plc-like functions)
[21:03:12] <tjtr33> Has anyone tried custom logic and connected to pins that were usually gpio?
[21:05:08] <tjb1_> What size wire do I need for a 200 amp service?
[21:06:29] <Jymmm> 4/0 ???
[21:19:30] <r00t4rd3d> ask your local code enforcement office.
[21:20:08] <skunkworks> tjtr33: yes
[21:20:40] <skunkworks> I am using 96 pins as gpio - some are run by ladder logic - some are run by hal comps...
[21:21:26] <skunkworks> (from 2 5i20's)
[21:22:49] <tjtr33> skunkworks, thanks, i meant use unused gates, the internal logic, like... did you create any vhdl code logic and connect the result to pins?
[21:23:14] <skunkworks> oh - no. It was all controled by linuxcnc.
[21:23:57] <skunkworks> so - all the logic was within linuxcnc - using the gpio pins
[21:24:05] <tjtr33> any idea if this has been done? i bet a lot of gates are unused, and something like Hal could be in custom bit file for a specific purpose
[21:24:20] <skunkworks> not that I know of.
[21:24:24] <tjtr33> like JT's counter, like my oscillator
[21:25:09] <skunkworks> why when linuxcnc can do it just fine? Otherwis you need a bit file to do what you want..
[21:25:14] <tjtr33> thanks, i can see how Hal or ladder could control a gpio pin. but this would be dang fast, no processor involved
[21:25:50] <skunkworks> sure - there are work arounds.. You can use a step gen as a frequency generator and such...
[21:28:44] <jdh> anyone use windows draftsight?
[21:29:46] <tjtr33> any idea if there are unused gates available or are they just un-wired.
[21:29:49] <tjtr33> i really dont see which files are used by the 5i20 config for 3 stepgens ( in the 5i20 zip of src files from Mesa )
[21:30:15] <tjtr33> so its difficult to see what resources are used up and which are available
[21:32:05] <tjtr33> ^^ thats in the Hostmot2 zip file sorry
[21:51:31] <PCW> Some 5I20 configs are 100% full
[21:52:05] <PCW> stepgens are big (48 bit accumulator)
[21:53:10] <PCW> sserial is fairly big (8 bit processor plus up to 8 UARTs)
[21:54:34] <PCW> ResolverMod is big (32 bit processor + lots of interface goo) and needs too much BRAM to fit in a 5I20
[21:54:47] <PCW> BRAM+MULT
[21:56:26] <tjtr33> PCW thanks, is it reasonable to try to add custom functions to a 4 axis stepgen ( no encoders no pwms no sserial no resolver)?
[21:57:31] <PCW> Its a fair amount of work to add a new module (and the driver needs to support it as well)
[21:57:44] <PCW> what function do you need?
[21:58:51] <tjtr33> 2 one shots, 9bit iirc, a clock divider to drive the oneshots, triggers for the oneshots.
[21:59:33] <PCW> what times?
[22:00:40] <tjtr33> 2^29 sorry 20nS interval i figured with 20nS 50mHz clock, the times would be programmable
[22:01:09] <tjtr33> i was just trying to save on the 32 bits, trimming to the needed range
[22:01:17] <PCW> External iinput trigger?
[22:01:41] <tjtr33> yes, trigger the 1st one shot, but it triggers the 2nd
[22:01:54] <tjtr33> (2nd not xtrnl trgr)
[22:02:17] <tjtr33> i dont mind adding another card/pport adapter
[22:03:00] <tjtr33> thus freeing the whole card for this
[22:04:01] <PCW> that should be really tiny, you could probably put 64 or so in a 5I20
[22:05:02] <PCW> if its just one it should not be a problem
[22:05:48] <tjtr33> great, so i should keep reading Cho.
[22:06:24] <tjtr33> the unused pins become gpio, what files have that magic? "make whatever is leftover into gpio" or maybe "make all gpio except these stepgens/pwms..."
[22:06:55] <PCW> except hacking it in (if you look at the PWMgen you can see the logic needed to make a bus interfaced module that crosses clock domains)
[22:07:27] <PCW> (the 5I20 PWMGEN runs at 100 MHz so your timer can as well)
[22:08:27] <tjtr33> pwmpdmgenh.vhd & pwmrefh.vhd?
[22:08:41] <PCW> but this requires crossing from the 33Mhz bus interface domain to the 100 MHz domain (though maybe there no logic needed if you dont dynamically change time values while running)
[22:09:07] <PCW> just the gen the ref is just a counter
[22:09:47] <tjtr33> thanks, i knew a bus i/f would be needed, can i just poll it at the end of each 'behavioral' completion?
[22:10:41] <tjtr33> well, i knew some method of communicating the desired values would be needed
[22:10:53] <PCW> I would take an existing module and hack it
[22:11:45] <tjtr33> suggestion? i dotn see which .vhd file would be used by the simple 3 axis stepper i mentioned
[22:11:52] <tjtr33> file(s)
[22:12:26] <PCW> a very common and compact way to make a timer is a down counter where the msb being set ends the time period
[22:13:09] <PCW> all config use all files (the PIN_XXXX files determine whats built)
[22:13:19] <tjtr33> if counter(29) yes
[22:14:33] <tjtr33> i have PIN_SVST4_8_72.vhd open now and dont see how it knows the behavior of a stepgen
[22:15:39] <PCW> I would use
[22:15:41] <PCW> if count(31) = '0' then
[22:15:43] <PCW> count <= count -1;
[22:15:45] <PCW> else ...
[22:17:18] <PCW> the PIN file thats included determines which modules are generated
[22:18:11] <PCW> in hostmot2.vhd there are a bunch of conditional generate functions
[22:18:19] <tjtr33> yep, got that idea sketched out ( watch hi bit), preload with a value so the hi bit trgrs after NnS.
[22:18:25] <tjtr33> ooh you fast!
[22:19:09] <tjtr33> hey, i'll sketch up a behaviour and maybe you could look at it some day soon? promis it wont be more than 1 page
[22:20:03] <PCW> also look at the watcgdog it works that way
[22:20:39] <tjtr33> again, thanks,will look at watchdog, it emits some signal or pin, okay
[22:21:34] <tjtr33> cool thats about as large as i care to read :)
[22:21:39] <PCW> well you set the time, its re-triggers by a host write and it uses the MSB trick (to avoid a (big) compare)
[22:23:41] <tjtr33> if i init it to sizeofregister - desirednumberoftiks, then i trgr after numberoftiks cool,, no compare
[22:25:08] <tjtr33> numberoftiks = desireduSecs *100 with a 10nS clock
[22:25:43] <tjtr33> plenty to work on thanks!
[22:26:18] <PCW> probably need an edge detector/filter on the input (though that will add a small but fixed delay)
[22:29:10] <tjtr33> ah on the trigger, ok (the clock doesnt need filter)
[22:29:33] <PCW> clock is internal 100 MHz spine
[22:30:01] <PCW> trigger input is (possibly dirty) external logic input
[22:30:30] <tjtr33> right, time delay, read read, compare, accept/reject
[22:30:37] <PCW> needs to be cleaned up an synchronized to the 100 MHz clock
[22:31:36] <PCW> look at encoder inputs. they do this
[22:31:40] <PCW> bbl
[22:31:50] <tjtr33> thx, gnite!
[22:35:32] <tjtr33> encoder = qcounter = quadrature counter if you look at the file names
[23:02:34] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d:
[23:22:52] <tjb1> here r00t4rd3d, this is what I need :P https://www.dropbox.com/s/13pedv2syg8lrxb/acrylicbedletteredcentered.dxf