#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-03-24

[03:15:45] <DJ9DJ> moin
[04:14:02] <L84Supper> R2E4: depends on where you are but I see them for <$2K in the midwest USA
[04:18:08] <L84Supper> most are junk that I've come across
[06:43:09] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[06:48:38] <andypugh> R2e4 are you buying or selling?
[07:19:25] <IchGuckLive> hi all around the world
[07:20:13] <IchGuckLive> is there a dxf downloadbase with no registration in the net
[07:20:48] <IchGuckLive> for fancy 3d animals maybe
[07:27:44] <jthornton> I've seen 2-d dxf
[07:27:54] <jthornton> and some 3-d puzzle ones
[07:28:07] <IchGuckLive> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/machine_created_art/40567-3d_puzzle_dxf_files.html
[07:28:56] <IchGuckLive> http://www.epiloglaser.com/sample_club.htm
[08:04:15] <R2E4> I am not buying that. The guy is ytrying to gt rid of a shop full of those things. Bridgport j-heads rigid heads, all kind of precision grinders etc...
[08:05:44] <R2E4> He sold his building and has to be out by the end of May. He said he will scrap it if he doesnt sell it.
[08:06:03] <R2E4> all of it. I am buying a VM40 for 5000 from him.
[08:06:21] <R2E4> Hitachi Seiko VM40
[08:06:51] <R2E4> C-YA guys, off to work.
[08:21:57] <andypugh> Looks like a much better buy. I wonder if it does this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8IL4kXDLRA
[10:55:34] <L84Supper> http://tinyurl.com/byctptc why are all these tool holders $10K ea (the first 40-50 listed) do they come with a free VMC? :)
[10:58:05] <toastyde1th> lol
[10:58:44] <sadara> Free shipping though, that has to count for something
[11:15:20] <andypugh> They want $100 to ship to me.
[11:15:43] <andypugh> Perhaps what they really want is to solicit offers that they can consider?
[11:31:42] <ProxDem> L84Supper: because they are made out of unobtanium
[11:52:18] <r00t4rd3d> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.csgeeks.TinyG
[11:54:55] <r00t4rd3d> https://www.synthetos.com/webstore/index.php/assembled-electronics/tiny-g.html
[11:59:20] <DJ9DJ> re
[12:12:50] <L84Supper> arrghh it's another AVR motion control board, I need to float a schematic around Shen Zhen so these end up at $39.95 and we can stop hearing about them
[12:14:00] <skunkworks> andypugh: you sure do a lot of impressive work with that lathe
[12:22:59] <t12> lol @ the singing vmc
[12:34:19] <andypugh> I guess I ought to be nicer about the lathe, really. But it isn't a very pleasing machine really.
[12:34:51] <andypugh> Squaring-up the ends of table legs, though, is something it can do.
[12:41:02] <skunkworks> heh
[12:42:25] <skunkworks> are those for the oak bench?
[13:11:01] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
[13:12:52] <DJ9DJ> hoi
[13:12:57] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[13:13:17] <mrsun> threads that even tho rotating the same direction all the time changes direction when it reaches the ends of it .. anyone know a name for that? :)
[13:13:34] <mrsun> or "cam" or whatever one should call it
[13:14:15] <IchGuckLive> Wrapped rotary
[13:14:41] <archivist> I know the slot type, Epson TX80 printer had it
[13:15:34] <mrsun> IchGuckLive, cant find any pictures :/
[13:16:33] <archivist> I saw a picture the last day ot two but cannot remember what site it was on
[13:16:34] <skunkworks> fishing pole spool usually have one to wind/unwind the line
[13:16:59] <IchGuckLive> in linuxcnc the rotary is wraped and changes the direction of the -code all the time it retches 360deg CAM woudt be Deskproto for that
[13:17:16] <mrsun> skunkworks, ahh yes!
[13:17:38] <archivist> mrsun, would be used on a mechanical type of auto
[13:18:13] <archivist> my sliding head has a version
[13:54:41] <gene77> Humm, "can't turn cutter comp on when on" and that is the whole of the message. WTH??
[13:54:57] <taiden> afternoon everyone
[13:58:27] <skunkworks> gene77: g41 or g42 is already in effect?
[13:59:53] <skunkworks> taiden: hi
[14:01:00] <IchGuckLive> gene77: Heeks ?
[14:01:03] <taiden> what wifi card are you Atom guys using?
[14:01:36] * skunkworks is wired
[14:01:43] <JT-Shop> I use a Cat5E
[14:02:57] <andypugh> taiden: WLAN-Made in China. That's pretty much all it says :-)
[14:03:20] <taiden> haha
[14:03:25] <taiden> will pretty much anything work?
[14:03:33] <taiden> I wish i could be wired
[14:03:57] <andypugh> No, this is the third one I tried. Mini-PCIe things.
[14:04:13] <andypugh> taiden: You might fine Homeplug a lot easier.
[14:04:55] <andypugh> I moved to Homeplug for the garage connection. You can still use Wake on Lan that way.
[14:05:31] <taiden> It's in the attic of a garage adjacent to the home
[14:05:40] <taiden> ]about 100 ft away
[14:06:18] <andypugh> About the same as me. If it is on the same electrical supply then Homeplug ought to work.
[14:07:10] <gene77> I don't think so, but let me add that G40 to the startup stanza just in case
[14:11:02] <taiden> It's not
[14:11:21] <taiden> they both have their own separate breaker boxes
[14:11:28] <taiden> that go to the street
[14:11:41] <andypugh> It _might_ still work, but it's less likely.
[14:11:49] <taiden> wifi works great with the laptop
[14:11:50] <gene77> Doesn't make any diff. First move is .5" minimum for all 3 axises, cutter comp being aplied is 0.0625/2, plenty of room to apply it
[14:12:02] <taiden> just trying to find a wifi card that will work
[14:12:03] <taiden> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=802.11g+mini+pci
[14:12:08] <taiden> am i looking for something along those lines?
[14:12:26] <andypugh> Yes.
[14:13:13] <andypugh> I got some from eBay. I don't think I paid more than a couple of quid
[14:13:53] <andypugh> You could try the one from the laptop, see if it works.
[14:14:26] <IchGuckLive> gene77: interpreter acts aon first move calc D not D/2
[14:15:29] <gene77> This is the main reason I usually write my own cutter comp. I have /yet/ to find an instance where linuxcnc would let me use it, right now it has 3 inches to apply the cutter comp in but won't.
[14:17:57] <gene77> example code follows
[14:18:31] <gene77> G0 Z2.0 X-0.5 Y-0.5
[14:18:33] <gene77> m6 t10 ( is 1/16" 2 flute flat face mill )
[14:18:34] <gene77> M3 S2500 ( spindle cw at 1500rpm )
[14:18:36] <gene77> G4 P1 ( let spindle get to speed )
[14:18:37] <gene77> G41 ( enable climb cut comp from tool table )
[14:18:39] <gene77> (M7) ( mist coolant on )
[14:18:40] <gene77> o100 while[#<_z_tmp> gt #<_z_depth>]
[14:18:42] <gene77> G01 Z#1000 F#1001
[14:18:51] <gene77> The last line is the one it bitches about
[14:19:32] <gene77> Do I need to also drive X0Y0 at the same time?
[14:22:02] <taiden> i'm going to try this
[14:22:03] <taiden> http://www.amazon.com/Intel-wireless-3945ABG-Network-Connection/dp/B000EDQOK8/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
[14:22:13] <taiden> i run a 15" mbp
[14:22:21] <taiden> so cant really pull the wifi card out of that :P
[14:23:10] <gene77> That fixed that, first move MUST be in an axis that is being modified. The docs don't say that.
[14:24:06] <gene77> Buuuut, now its complaining about a gouge waaaaaay late in the routine. I can't win.
[14:24:38] <skunkworks> is this a part make up of tons of short lines?
[14:25:35] <skunkworks> The chances of that happening increase exponentially then...
[14:26:55] <gene77> 115 lines to go around the outline of a finger hook, shaped much like a triggers visible part
[14:27:23] <IchGuckLive> gene use G20 in the first place
[14:27:55] <IchGuckLive> G17 G20 G54 G90 G80 G40 G49 G61
[14:28:07] <gene77> It has a T foot, to be drilled & tapped 0-80 and its somewhere in that T end section.
[14:28:39] <gene77> Inch mode, yes
[14:29:22] <gene77> And visibly, that tee has lots of room around it for a 1/16" mill
[14:44:45] <gene77> I have several lines of code in that area that have effectively no moves for an individual axis, does that screw it up?
[14:47:58] * JT-Shop takes 5
[14:51:16] <pcw_home> dont take my 5
[14:51:42] <JT-Shop> with your 5 and my 5 we can take 10
[14:53:08] <gene77> problem code is at <http://pastebin.ca/2339802>, error is at line 101. If someone can take a look please
[14:53:24] <pcw_home> Sounds like a plan
[14:53:42] <JT-Shop> what is the error gene77
[14:54:00] <gene77> can't cut without gouging
[14:54:46] <JT-Shop> it is most likely correct, the arc is smaller or equal to the cutter diameter
[14:54:59] <JT-Shop> or line I mean
[14:55:19] <gene77> Its approximately the upper right corner of the pattern, where it makes a 90 right turn, oh, line is 101
[14:55:58] <gene77> It makes several other similar inside corners just fine
[14:56:32] <JT-Shop> what happens if you increase your scalers #1003 and #1004?
[14:56:43] <JT-Shop> similar but different
[14:56:59] <gene77> Then the pattern will cut too large a part
[14:57:33] <gene77> Or do you mean twiddle the last .0001 of the scaler?
[14:57:38] <JT-Shop> wow a 1/16" bit
[14:57:46] <gene77> Yes
[14:57:58] <JT-Shop> on line 101 is the line longer than the diameter of the tool?
[14:58:30] <gene77> brass, can't even cut all the way through it, but its still thicker that I need.
[15:00:43] <JT-Shop> the move on line 101 is 0.0616373" which is smaller than your tool!
[15:01:09] <JT-Shop> back to the drawing board
[15:01:42] * JT-Shop goes back to putting the BlueWing back together
[15:02:07] <gene77> Looks like the scaler twiddle, by .00001 each way fixed it. Pickity. also I tried commenting each line out in sequence until i had commented the whole end of the loop, the error then movrd to line 27
[15:03:02] <gene77> Thanks John, go get yur coffee now :)
[15:05:51] <gene77> Oh shit.. lcnc was locked up on the error and ignoring my reloads, so the scaler twiddle didn't help.
[15:11:10] <IchGuckLive> gene77: in your g-code there is only G41 you bneed a D with the ofset parameter
[15:11:26] <IchGuckLive> usely the same as the Tool
[15:11:52] <IchGuckLive> but you can use whatever you want if yout tooltable holds that value 0-999
[15:12:08] <IchGuckLive> T1 with G41 D99
[15:16:06] <IchGuckLive> gene what is the part right down
[15:16:53] <IchGuckLive> The tool moves left G41 to path ant this lines are inside the part
[15:17:27] <IchGuckLive> eft means outside on this path way
[15:17:34] <IchGuckLive> left O.O
[15:17:46] <IchGuckLive> somthing is wrong
[15:18:04] <IchGuckLive> the start gives a view for me as you want inside
[15:19:35] <gene77> Its in the tool table as D0.0625 for tool 10 in pocket 10
[15:20:00] <IchGuckLive> so G41 D10
[15:20:11] <IchGuckLive> for real tool diameter
[15:20:29] <IchGuckLive> if you want to go for a bigger start use Bigger value
[15:20:46] <IchGuckLive> if you want lower partsize use smaler tool
[15:21:29] <IchGuckLive> Greater then Real Tool diameter means there is material left
[15:21:56] <gene77> I just ran my calc and move to that lines position, and seeing your message, added a D10 to the G41 line. No change.
[15:22:21] <IchGuckLive> what is your error
[15:22:23] <IchGuckLive> 101
[15:24:31] <gene77> The position is a cut at the left end of the tool access notch, about 2mm less width at that point.
[15:25:28] <gene77> I'll take that whole shaply bulge out it the code out for S&G
[15:26:39] <IchGuckLive> gene in inch or mm your mashine and tooltable
[15:27:06] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[15:27:08] <IchGuckLive> tbl is regonised in mashine units
[15:30:52] <IchGuckLive> ok im off BY
[15:49:22] <mrsun> damn having a guided diestock or whatever its called was nice =)
[15:49:32] <mrsun> even managed to straighten crooked threads on a shaft i had :P
[15:49:46] <mrsun> (i stopped as soon as i saw it was crooked so not that very mych off :P)
[15:49:53] <mrsun> bust still, nice to be able to save it =)
[16:17:44] <terrym> .linuxcncrc file info? Seems the intergrators manual has one minor mention of it. No other info to be found.
[16:23:13] <andypugh> You might find a little more by looking for emcrc too (older docs from before the name change)
[16:26:00] <terrym> Yes, I have an older instalation, will look at those docs. Thanks
[16:27:15] <terrym> Unfortunatly, emcrc, when searched on google, seems to have another meaning.
[16:27:16] <andypugh> It looks like it is only used to remember which config you started last time.
[16:27:33] <andypugh> emcrd site:www.linuxcnc.org ?
[16:27:46] <andypugh> (emcrc I mean)
[16:28:02] <andypugh> Or just search in the box on the left of the LinuxCNC homepage.
[16:28:05] <terrym> I was wanting to have it remember the axis positions across shutdown and startup.
[16:29:39] <terrym> Oh, learn something new ... site:... did not know about doing that.
[17:28:28] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[18:39:50] <skunkworks> ah - that is why my connection has been a bit wonky
[19:53:54] <t12_> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/w1qlnb5zqsaqkx5/sembj_fT74
[19:53:54] <t12_> score today
[21:04:45] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeiv-I19kZU
[21:24:10] <r00t4rd3d> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.antonsmirnov.android.arduinocommander
[21:24:29] <r00t4rd3d> neat little app
[22:09:16] <r00t4rd3d> wow wtf connection
[22:09:48] <r00t4rd3d> my internet has been sucking balls lately
[22:10:53] <r00t4rd3d> i wanna click my heels and land in Kansas
[22:11:01] <r00t4rd3d> theres no place like fiber...
[22:12:24] <r00t4rd3d> Jymmm, can I borrow you ruby red high heels?
[22:12:42] <jdh> you would have to live in kansas
[22:13:25] <r00t4rd3d> sounds good
[22:13:59] <r00t4rd3d> Ill go work at mcdonalds and rent a garage
[22:14:10] <jdh> in kansas
[22:14:14] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[22:14:28] <jdh> soundsd like hell
[22:15:26] <r00t4rd3d> worth it
[22:15:40] <jdh> just for fast net.pr0n?
[22:16:24] <r00t4rd3d> nah just for a good speakeasy speed text forum sig
[22:16:54] <r00t4rd3d> test*
[22:18:19] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/Qx9MH.png
[22:18:31] <jdh> I get 16/1, but that would be like 16,000/1,000 in kansas
[22:19:19] <bert__> can anyone in here help me with comp file issue?
[22:19:38] <jdh> I can't, but try asking and see if someone answers
[22:20:33] <bert__> seems to be something wrong in the file, I get an error when I try to comp --install
[22:20:47] <bert__> error is something mad in the parser
[22:21:53] <r00t4rd3d> most errors in linux are self explaining
[22:22:25] <r00t4rd3d> pastebin.org the error
[22:22:32] <bert__> yes, ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
[22:22:52] <r00t4rd3d> did you give it a name?
[22:23:03] <r00t4rd3d> guessing nvm
[22:23:10] <bert__> filename?
[22:23:20] <bert__> yes I did
[22:23:31] <r00t4rd3d> does comp --help give you the proper formating ?
[22:24:18] <r00t4rd3d> like tell you the valid switches or commands and order they should go in
[22:24:45] <bert__> yes, I have a very simple file that will work
[22:25:06] <bert__> when I try the one I want - it doesn't
[22:25:51] <bert__> I had this issue 2 years ago, with the same 2 files. NEVER did figure it out, but for some reason re-typing semed to do it
[22:27:00] <bert__> So I have tried the same thing but this time does not work. REALLY want to find the real issue
[22:27:49] <jdh> <Gabriel__> This issue was resolved by changing the line a, b = f.split("\n;;\n", 1) for a, b = f.split("\n;;", 1) in the comp python script
[22:28:14] <r00t4rd3d> whats the exact command you run?
[22:28:33] <jdh> (somebody else with the same problem last year)
[22:28:46] <bert__> I found that, so is it a fix or a work around?
[22:28:53] <jdh> no clue
[22:29:31] <bert__> sudo comp --install path/FCepp.comp
[22:30:01] <r00t4rd3d> sudo python comp --install path/FCepp.comp
[22:30:04] <r00t4rd3d> whats that do?
[22:30:47] <bert__> doesn't like that
[22:31:06] <r00t4rd3d> was just a guess
[22:32:01] <r00t4rd3d> but seems like you are only telling it the path to install but not what to install
[22:32:15] <r00t4rd3d> or where to
[22:32:33] <bert__> it knows where to install it, I just need to tell it what to install
[22:34:06] <bert__> so if dropping the second \n from the split line worked for <Gabriel>, does it seem like I am missing a CR somewhere?
[22:34:45] <jdh> needs a trailing cr maybe?
[22:36:59] <bert__> am I right thinking it is looking for a CR then ;; then CR?
[22:39:12] <r00t4rd3d> http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=cadb8b5c7a389374cce5962014d590b&prevstart=0
[22:39:15] <r00t4rd3d> interesting
[22:39:41] <ve7it> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290762302245 nice looking MPG
[22:40:22] <jdh> looks like the ;; delimits the code
[22:41:52] <bert__> so: a,b = f.split("\n;;\n",1)
[22:42:44] <jdh> got something weird after the ;; in teh comp?
[22:42:45] <bert__> says to split the code into 2 sections, section 1 being before the \n;;\n called a, and section 2 after(being called b)
[22:43:06] <bert__> per the instructions, the rest of the code
[22:43:32] <bert__> error is : "more than 1 value to unpack"
[22:44:00] <bert__> so maybe I have 2 ;; somewhere and am not seeing them
[22:44:30] <jdh> or whitespace after the ;; ?
[22:44:44] <t12_> todays camera swap meet find: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/dnwj13hv11cyovn/s_Ym_lgpRn
[22:44:54] <t12> if freenode is working now
[22:45:13] <jdh> cool. what is it?
[22:45:29] <t12> appears to be for measuring the focal plane of some series of canon cameras
[22:45:41] <t12> anvil is a mirror
[22:48:04] <bert__> tried all I know to play with the ;;
[22:48:42] <bert__> there only exists 1 set of them, I have backspaced over them and re-typed them
[22:48:47] <bert__> nothing yet
[22:48:54] <jdh> and then added a CR?
[22:49:34] <jdh> what comp?
[22:50:10] <bert__> yes. added CR
[22:50:35] <bert__> it is a comp Andy helped me with a few years ago.
[22:51:58] <bert__> Last time this worked I ended up re-typing it in a file that would work (simple example from docs)
[22:52:39] <bert__> that was the only way I got it to run. I really don't like work arounds, There must be something missing or added
[22:53:35] <jdh> did the previous line end up with a cr-lf?
[22:54:42] <jdh> it's looking for LF anyway, not CR
[22:55:59] <bert__> ok, here is what I have just tried - all this is in gedit
[22:56:27] <bert__> copied the lines from the working file using select all
[22:56:59] <bert__> selected all in my file that wont work - and pasted
[22:57:03] <bert__> saved
[22:57:20] <bert__> doesn't work. everything is in the same dir
[22:57:57] <bert__> As for CR-LF, yes I know there is a difference, no I don't know how to make 1 or the other in gedit
[22:58:22] <jdh> I'd assume it does LF but, that's an assumption
[23:01:07] <bert__> Thank you for your help jdh, riddle solved
[23:01:17] <jdh> what was it?
[23:01:57] <bert__> When saving, you have to make sure the "line ending" drop box is set for unix and not winblows
[23:02:34] <jdh> in gedit, in linux? it doesn't do that by default?
[23:03:59] <bert__> yes, but that is where i was messing it up. Coping a file from my windoze box (with network access) over to my linux box. I use notepad++, so wasn't thinking about the line endings
[23:04:30] <bert__> so a file opened maybe as a .txt, defaults to windows line ending
[23:07:47] <r00t4rd3d> skateboard wheel bearing pipe rollers: http://i.imgur.com/RFgkL7d.jpg