#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-03-02

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[00:14:43] <r00t4rd3d> http://defensedistributed.com/
[00:15:23] <r00t4rd3d> 3d printed gun that shoots 600 rounds per minute
[00:18:48] <R2E4_> I justinstalled my 5i25 card and computer video doesn't come up. Remove it and computer boots fine.
[00:19:02] <R2E4_> two red lights flash on 5i25
[00:22:22] <r00t4rd3d> red = fault
[00:26:08] <R2E4_> yeah.. I'm sure its not good news.
[00:26:25] <R2E4_> It stops the computer also a few seconds after
[00:26:34] <r00t4rd3d> how are they powered?
[00:27:19] <r00t4rd3d> you need to talk to andy or pcw_home
[00:30:37] <R2E4_> how is what powered?
[00:34:48] <r00t4rd3d> nvm
[00:37:41] <R2E4_> I just plugged the 5i25 in pci slot and computer video doesnt come on.
[00:42:35] <r00t4rd3d> old computer?
[00:44:51] <R2E4_> not too old. I just put it in an ibm and the computer booted. suspect it is the computer.
[00:45:34] <R2E4_> problem is it ios an IBM and the SMI issue causing big latency shows upo.
[00:53:57] <r00t4rd3d> time for a new motherboard
[01:58:39] <DJ9DJ> moin
[03:30:28] <mrsun> hmm now i need to make a tool holder for the radius tuner ... hmm
[03:31:22] <mrsun> hmm roundstock maybe
[03:53:44] <Tecan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMbI1O-xc40
[04:06:43] <bedah> i got an elder stepperdriverboard, with nearly no documentation, where could i find more information about "whiteAnt Electronics", only thing i found was this: http://buildyourcnc.com/whiteant3dprinterandcncmachine.aspx
[04:12:39] <archivist> bedah, sometimes just getting the chip data sheet is all you need
[04:16:21] <bedah> oh already got that, but maybe i could find some more information
[04:19:10] <bedah> most probably i will have to rebuilt the whole code for the arduino mega, or i will have to adapt some other firmware
[04:19:15] <bedah> dunno, i will see
[05:12:51] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[08:05:10] <andypugh> Some encoder-like things that I saw on eBay turned up today. I have no idea what they really are but they were made by Librascope in 1963. They are called "shaft to digital encoder" and have lots of pins on the bottom. C, 0, /1, 2, /2, 3, /3, ...... 13, /13. I think that they might have been used as the interface between a mechanical integrator and a digital stage.
[08:06:07] <skunkworks> pictures?
[08:06:22] <andypugh> The manufacturer was Librascope, a division of General Precision. and that might be ringing bells with some of you, that was the mnufacturer of the LGP-30 immortalised in the story of "Mel the Programmer"
[08:07:38] <andypugh> skunkworks: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330859627467
[08:07:56] <andypugh> Same vintage as your machine, I guess?
[08:09:00] <andypugh> 28 pins on the bottom.
[08:10:34] <skunkworks> wow - no. the K&T had resolvers
[08:11:04] <skunkworks> the 70's vintage lathe had some sort of optical encoder for spindle sync
[08:12:42] <archivist> gray code optical?
[08:13:59] <andypugh> I have no idea.
[08:15:53] <andypugh> I get the feeling that they are so old that the internet has never heard of them.
[08:16:52] <archivist> spose you want me to lift Handbook of transducers for electronic measuring systems circa 1969 ...in box016....not seen that for a while
[08:17:00] <andypugh> Apprently the programmin manual for the LGP-30 was typewritten. As in, typed in full as required.
[08:17:35] <archivist> some of the manuals I have are typed
[08:17:50] <archivist> with real photographs
[08:19:57] <andypugh> My Thesis has real photographs. Even in 1993 digital imaging hadn't really caught on.
[08:21:16] <L84Supper> what features would be most helpful for a vision interface to EMC? edge detection, orientation, optical measurement etc etc?
[08:23:07] <archivist> all of the above
[08:23:21] <andypugh> Fiducial mark alignemt
[08:23:35] <andypugh> I think that some people have made some progress with it.
[08:23:55] <andypugh> Bit nothing has made it into the mainstream.
[08:24:19] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/cnc/cnccam.html
[08:24:44] <L84Supper> we have to work on something similar to this anyway for a project, so I'd like to see it made useful for general use
[08:24:46] <archivist> that needs to be centred properly
[08:25:06] <skunkworks> that would be cool.
[08:26:36] <L84Supper> we saw this http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Axis_Embed_Video and http://psha.org.ru/b/camview-emc.html
[08:30:11] <L84Supper> we need to have the vision system orient the part, and search for certain features and then coordinate a tool to perform work in that feature
[08:31:08] <archivist> andypugh, ok that book does not mention that maker
[08:32:29] <archivist> andypugh, some in this book are contact type so try a dvm on resistance across a pair
[08:33:35] <archivist> at that age the contact type is more likely especially with that many connections
[08:39:34] <andypugh> It sounds like mechanical contacs. I suspect it is intended for hand operation.
[08:39:51] <archivist> andypugh, or dvm to the C (common) and one of the many other contacts
[08:40:38] <andypugh> C to 0 beeps cyclically. I have not found any other contacts.
[08:40:42] <archivist> they mention a common in this book and the one of the companies id Litton, same first two characters
[08:40:57] <andypugh> Though I guess it could be multi-turn
[08:41:49] <andypugh> I think they will be going into the back of a cupboard as a warning not to drink and eBay..
[08:41:55] <archivist> hehe
[08:42:52] <archivist> I dont think I can blame drink for my odd stuff
[08:45:04] <andypugh> I can't help wondeirng if somewhere out there there is somebody needing these parts to finish his targetting computer restoration, or similar.
[08:45:36] <archivist> or aircraft restoration
[08:45:55] <andypugh> Indeed. Though I am not sure what they would do in an aircraft.
[08:46:49] <archivist> I have some odd stuff on a website and a few times a year I get rid of something when the buyers search for a rare part number
[08:47:34] <andypugh> That might be a reasonable idea. "Old stuff I have going spare"
[08:48:11] <archivist> best was a filter to a man in Inverness for his milling machine
[08:48:54] <archivist> I delivered it, because at the same time I got a cnc lathe...from him off ebay
[08:49:29] <andypugh> A curious coincidence
[08:49:54] <archivist> exceeeeeedingly
[08:50:44] <archivist> he realised my email address on the part number site was similar to my ebay handle
[08:55:01] <skunkworks> how about this. I was trying to call my girlfriend. A guy answers and said 'Hi sam' after a bit of WTF - I had dialed a distant cousin. (I didn't know his number)
[08:55:45] <Jymmm> you're dating your cousin?!
[08:55:54] <skunkworks> heh
[09:03:34] <skunkworks> JT-Shop: jthornton: http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/bridgeport-hardinge-mills-lathes/1991-bridgeport-discovery-308-rebuild-retrofit-244122/
[09:14:39] <JT-Shop> sweet, thanks Sam
[09:15:46] <skunkworks> JT-Shop: is yours a 308?
[09:15:57] <JT-Shop> yep
[09:16:06] <skunkworks> wow - that is a nice looking cnc
[09:16:13] <skunkworks> (guts wise)
[09:16:47] <Tom_itx> 8 tool changer?
[09:16:54] <JT-Shop> aye
[09:17:11] <JT-Shop> slowest tool changer in the west or east or...
[09:17:30] <Tom_itx> how old is it?
[09:19:31] <JT-Shop> 20
[09:22:46] <skunkworks> JT-Shop: did you end up fixing it? (the tool changer)
[09:23:16] <JT-Shop> yes, it was a relay stuck closed on the tool changer board
[09:23:32] <JT-Shop> I had to remove the old one, solder on the new one and it's back to working
[09:23:53] <skunkworks> nice
[09:27:35] <andypugh> What's CNC11?
[09:33:28] <Tom_itx> ajax cnc?
[09:33:30] <Jymmm> Isn't that like a sherline?
[09:35:07] <Tom_itx> http://www.ajaxcnc.com/ajax-cnc-software-downloads/
[09:35:17] <andypugh> It seems to be Centroid.
[09:35:40] <Tom_itx> that's what it says
[09:36:30] <Tom_itx> mach3/centroid
[09:46:18] <skunkworks> yeck
[09:48:28] <L84Supper> http://tinyurl.com/b3y9j88 a bit OT, but in searching for an ATM the other day I came across this, it's not a bank and had 16ft iron fence around it with no marking for what the place actually is
[09:48:55] <L84Supper> guard house and they got really nervous when i walked up and asked where the ATM was
[09:50:47] <L84Supper> there must be some website that lists discovered secret sites or shares info
[09:51:15] <andypugh> The place I work at has an ATM inside it. That is probably what is being shown.
[09:52:01] <L84Supper> whats odd was no sign, a guard shack, iron security fences, and the ground is built up around it like a bunker
[09:52:28] <andypugh> L84Supper: http://farm1.staticflickr.com/132/321262337_54fd36c8e5_z.jpg
[09:52:46] <L84Supper> lol
[09:52:48] <Jymmm> L84Supper: You expected signs that say "SUPER SECRET MILITARY RESEARCH FACILITY" ???
[09:53:13] <archivist> I did have to visit one and deliver....when it was secret
[09:53:31] <L84Supper> nah, just wondering what it was since it's 500' from residential
[09:53:35] <Loetmichel> Jymmm: some sign: "nothing to see here, walk on!" would be nice ;-)
[09:53:59] <L84Supper> the guards were really nervous when I walked up
[09:55:29] <Jymmm> Eh, unless you were looking down the barre of an M16 (been there, done that, same scenario), aint no thing =)
[09:56:32] <Jymmm> And I HAD permission, just didn't know I crossed boundary lines
[09:56:55] <Loetmichel> ... because therter were none painted on?
[09:56:58] <Loetmichel> there
[09:57:20] <Jymmm> No signs, 4ft tall weeds, the rest was abandoned
[10:01:23] <L84Supper> if you search for HSBC in the us on Google you'll get several places like this as a bank location, probably just secret Chinese spy HQ locations :)
[10:04:04] <L84Supper> http://wikimapia.org/13128791/HSBC-Volo-Data-Center hehe close
[10:17:01] <pcw_home> does look like a big data center with all the fancy cooling stuff on the north side
[10:19:38] <Jymmm> Heh, you should see the Visa DC's, those are guarded very heavily
[10:20:16] <Jymmm> and not just by armed rent a cops either.
[10:25:46] <L84Supper> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Cxmha3h6c did they have these?
[10:26:31] <Jymmm> Nah, just M16's
[12:24:13] <IchGuckLive> hi
[12:37:33] <R2E4_> yuk...... recompile..... damn
[12:37:58] <R2E4_> or get another com[puter
[12:38:12] <R2E4_> IBM SMI issues
[12:40:19] <IchGuckLive> smi is easy
[12:44:13] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.amazon.com/Richard-Kell-Solid-Dovetail-Marker/dp/B004ST239K
[12:44:19] <r00t4rd3d> someone mill me that plz :)
[12:46:03] <ReadError> you see my router vid r00t4rd3d?
[12:46:39] <ReadError> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQ3Lisz1PMc
[12:50:58] <R2E4_> IchGuckLive: easy you say?
[12:51:19] <R2E4_> Icould use existing binary.
[13:16:27] <R2E4_> I got an AMD64, will try that.
[14:02:26] <r00t4rd3d> nice
[14:02:34] <r00t4rd3d> copy me that dust show
[14:02:38] <r00t4rd3d> shoe
[14:04:25] <ReadError> where i got it?
[14:16:04] <tjtr33> L84Supper, the good small German trunnions got bought out by Hman, still great stuff http://jauchschmider.com/default.aspx
[14:16:44] <tjtr33> L84Supper, and MMK ( and Sam the US rep) is now here in Prospect Hts
[14:17:21] <tjtr33> L84Supper, you can see the JS at the mits showroom in EGV if you like
[14:37:13] <L84Supper> tjtr33: the lead times are so long that we will end up making much of the stage in house
[14:38:34] <tjtr33> the arc sec precision and the 7+ inch radius make it tough, you got a bunch of good old toolmakers?
[14:38:37] <tjtr33> ;)
[14:39:27] <L84Supper> heh, plenty for hire and they prefer to use manual mills and lathes :)
[14:39:50] <L84Supper> and hand lap everything to 1um :)
[14:40:04] <tjtr33> thats what built NASA
[14:40:27] <tjtr33> l8r, good to talk
[15:12:18] <R2E4_> how do I make a 5i22 config into a 5i25?
[15:13:56] <micges> R2E4_: explain
[15:15:29] <Jymmm> + 3 ?
[15:16:22] <R2E4_> I selected 5i22 in config selector because there is no 5i25.
[15:19:01] <cradek> are you talking about pncconf?
[15:20:29] <cradek> http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/39-pncconf/21670-5i25-firmware-xml-files-for-pncconf
[15:24:35] <R2E4_> linux config selector
[15:35:13] <pcw_home> I wouls take this sample file set: freeby.mesanet.com/7i77.zip
[15:35:15] <pcw_home> and unzip it in ~/linuxcnc/configs/hm2-servo
[15:35:18] <pcw_home> would
[15:35:59] <mhaberler> that config works fine, it should go in
[15:36:07] <pcw_home> Then you should have a 5i25-7i77 example in your selector
[15:37:13] <pcw_home> its just the hm2-servo example hal/ini with only the required changes
[15:39:59] <pcw_home> (linuxCNC selector not pncconf)
[15:40:53] <cradek> new sample configs for new hardware are always welcome in point releases
[15:41:03] <cradek> now is your chance
[15:45:14] <pcw_home> that one and the 7I76 one should definitely go in
[15:46:07] <pcw_home> not sure about all my autogenerated 5i25 xml files dont know if pncconf likes them
[16:18:02] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:22:08] <andypugh> Ooh, I wonder what I have done there? I accidentally typed "cd '/" instead of "cd ~/" and I am now in a funny command promt ( >) and nothing works...
[17:23:12] <andypugh> Ah, I think I see what it was, it was waiting for a closing '
[17:33:15] <mrsun> https://plus.google.com/photos/112857503660532884288/albums/5845629767575099665 my little creation! =)
[17:33:38] <ReadError> so my ghetto clamp came loose
[17:33:51] <ReadError> luckily i noticed it fast i thought there was something major wrong
[17:33:52] <ReadError> heh
[17:34:04] <andypugh> Ball-turning jig?
[17:34:23] <mrsun> yes
[17:34:23] <andypugh> Isn't that what CNC is for? :-)
[17:34:27] <mrsun> haha
[17:34:29] <mrsun> do not have cnc lathe
[17:34:44] <andypugh> Lathes are easy to convert.
[17:34:51] <andypugh> Well, the Z axes are.
[17:34:57] <mrsun> well do not want to convert this old lathe =)
[17:34:59] <andypugh> The X axes can be rather tricky.
[17:36:20] <andypugh> There is a lot tobe said for swapping the changewheels for a gear-tooth sensor, a stepper motor and a micro (Arduino, for example)
[17:38:54] <mrsun> only thing left to do on this one is fixerup on the tool holder, and oilgroves for the dovetails and sliding surfaces =)
[17:39:14] <mrsun> and maybe a chamfer on the bottom side of the burning thingie :P
[17:47:15] <cradek> pcw_home: have you figured out anything about sample configs or xml files? I would like to get started soon.
[17:53:10] <Tom_itx> build one
[18:33:36] <R2E4_> OK thanks pcw_home.
[18:43:04] <R2E4_> Does the 7i787 have to powered for it to start? Its bombing right after it initializes the 5i25 board.
[18:43:15] <R2E4_> 7i77 I meant to put.
[18:43:33] <pcw_home> Yes
[18:45:03] <R2E4_> 5volts?
[18:45:11] <R2E4_> whew.....
[18:45:20] <R2E4_> At least I have an excuse.......
[18:46:08] <pcw_home> If the hal file references pins on the 7I77 that require power
[18:46:10] <pcw_home> The analog I/O /enables require 5V power from the host or externally
[18:46:11] <pcw_home> the field I/O needs its 10-32V power if digital ins or outs are referenced
[18:47:16] <pcw_home> Be careful with the 5V power options, the 5I25 and 7I77 have to be jumpered appropriately for each mode
[18:47:50] <pcw_home> (external 7I77 5V power or cable power from 5I25)
[18:48:15] <R2E4_> I saw those jumpers.
[18:48:37] <R2E4_> Didnt realiuze I needed them for it to start.
[18:49:01] <R2E4_> boards are really nice, btw....
[18:49:10] <pcw_home> They _must_ be set correctly before connection the 5I25 to the 7I77
[18:49:22] <pcw_home> connecting
[18:50:13] <pcw_home> Thanks we're pretty happy with both
[18:50:56] <R2E4_> oops, I left them at default and connected them.
[18:52:29] <pcw_home> They should be set correctly for cable power but this is not guaranteed
[18:53:57] <R2E4_> cable power meaning powered by the 5i25?
[18:54:03] <pcw_home> What you especially DO NOT want to do is have the 7I77 jumpered for external power
[18:54:05] <pcw_home> the 5I25 for cable power and the apply external 5V power to the 7I77
[18:54:06] <R2E4_> oe external 5v?
[18:54:51] <pcw_home> cable power means the 7I77 gets its power from the signal cable from the 5I25/6I25/whatever
[18:55:12] <pcw_home> There are manuals for both cards...
[18:55:31] <R2E4_> I have printed them and they are right next to me....:-)
[18:55:49] <R2E4_> I shut it down and am going to set them for cable power.
[18:56:34] <R2E4_> Signal cable meaning the db25 cable that came with the two boards.
[18:56:44] <pcw_home> Yes
[18:56:46] <pcw_home> The hm2-servo7i77.hal demo file does have one line that uses a field I/O pin, but you can just comment it out if you want to try without field I/O running
[18:57:34] <pcw_home> (which requires field power)
[18:58:32] <R2E4_> ok
[18:59:32] <pcw_home> There is a yellow 5V LED on the top right edge of the 7I77 so that should be on plus a couple more yellow LEDs at the bottom middle of the 7I77 (+-15V) if you have 5V power
[18:59:52] <pcw_home> top left edge I meant
[19:00:52] <R2E4_> W1 and W2 is down so breakout power is disabled.
[19:00:58] <R2E4_> on the 5i25
[19:03:11] <R2E4_> So I have enable them to supply 5 v to the 7i77
[19:04:40] <pcw_home> Just W2
[19:05:01] <pcw_home> (you are not using the other connector)
[19:05:23] <pcw_home> only P3
[19:06:35] <R2E4_> And I move W5 on the 7i77 to the right.
[19:07:09] <pcw_home> No, to the left
[19:07:42] <pcw_home> If you are using cable power W5 must be to the left
[19:08:50] <pcw_home> that is 5V come from 5I25, and TB1 on the 7I77 is unconnected
[19:09:03] <R2E4_> right. I read it wrong.
[19:10:16] <R2E4_> ooh. now we have nice yellow leds.
[19:11:19] <pcw_home> you will have one more LED on the top right edge of the 7I77 if you apply field power
[19:12:12] <R2E4_> ok, i see it.
[19:12:14] <pcw_home> or you can put that off and edit the hal file and comment out the one reference to field I/O
[19:12:15] <pcw_home> so linuxcnc can start
[19:12:46] <R2E4_> yeah thats what i'm going to do when its finished booting.
[19:13:28] <R2E4_> Do you need a series1 BOSS 9 crt and keyboard and controller?
[19:13:36] <R2E4_> hehe
[19:13:41] <pcw_home> if you apply field power, gnd is the bottom pin
[19:14:08] <pcw_home> Looks like it came out of Star trek IICRC
[19:15:05] <R2E4_> haha, yeah, IT looks like it wants to move all the time.
[19:15:05] <pcw_home> (at least the housing)
[19:15:23] <R2E4_> I am waiting for it to lift its arms.
[19:21:02] <R2E4_> comment out the entire standard I/O block?
[19:22:16] <uminded> can I compile just the HAL component layer?
[19:25:21] <R2E4_> WEBE good..... woooohoooo!
[19:25:46] <R2E4_> RIVERDANCE!!!\
[19:27:23] <pcw_home> I think
[19:27:25] <pcw_home> net home-switch <= hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.7i77.0.0.input-00
[19:27:26] <pcw_home> is all the I/O used
[19:29:32] <Jymmm> Um, yum??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NzUm7UEEIY
[19:29:58] <pcw_home> If field power is applied (and linuxCNC re-started) , all the input and output pins should appear
[19:30:55] <andypugh> uminded: I don't think you can do that easily. You can certainly choose to only _use_ thr HAL layer.
[19:31:07] <skunkworks> pcw_home: I just got to play with the 5i25 - the firmware file for the rutex seems to work (not hooked to hardware but scoped the pins and they step on the right pins)
[19:31:16] <skunkworks> very cool - 'just worked'
[19:32:02] <pcw_home> depends on my datasheet reading ability...
[19:32:05] <uminded> Ahh, Im using a headless ARM board so was not sure if I could
[19:32:46] <andypugh> There are ideas to separate HAL out as a "machinekit" package.
[19:34:16] <skunkworks> He is going to try it tomorrow - but was virtual jogging at 60ipm which is twice as fast (and as fast as he wants to go) than he had before
[19:34:50] <andypugh> uminded: I do lots of testing in just the HAL layer, and for special-purpose machines it can be useful to just not use the G-code interpreter and GUIs. A single-purpose Python/Glade GUI, and using the limit3 HAL component as the motion controller can be a useful setup.
[19:35:57] <skunkworks> the rutex drives according to him have 100khz max frequency. So we have the step and space set to 5us
[19:36:35] <pcw_home> skunkworks: Sounds good, glad you are there to get him going
[19:36:59] <skunkworks> I think he could have handled it - but it was neat to see an actual 5i25
[19:37:10] <skunkworks> in the wild
[19:37:39] <pcw_home> pretty minimal compared to a 5I20
[19:38:24] <skunkworks> 'tight' :)
[19:53:13] <cradek> pcw_home: have you figured out anything about sample configs or xml files? I would like to get started soon.
[19:55:33] <pcw_home> I have the 2 minimal ones that are basicall hm2-stepper and hm2-servo with only the needed changes for 5i25/7i76 and 5i25/7i77
[19:57:20] <pcw_home> also I have the 5i25 bitfiles (should someone want to change configs)
[20:05:30] <andypugh> Jymmm: The Hot-dogs are just food. I am more offended by http://youtu.be/Tl5slcDq1Ic
[20:15:20] <skunkworks> I don't know exactly what motherboard he was using but latency was in the 30us. without idle=poll in the kernel params - linuxcnc would throw a realtime error.
[20:15:33] <skunkworks> it was a newer asus/amd combo like I have been playing with
[20:15:51] <skunkworks> he has other hardware though to run it on if there is issues.
[20:24:03] <L84Supper> http://tinyurl.com/cvhr3uf "Typical open loop resolution of 1.5nm" Resolution (nm) 100 , so which is it?
[20:25:22] <JesusAlos> hi
[20:27:30] <andypugh> Hi JesusAlos
[20:27:45] <andypugh> Rather late in .es?
[20:28:40] <JesusAlos> yes but I sticking with HAL pins
[20:28:41] <andypugh> L84Supper: The link goes to a page that only mentions 1.5nm (twice)
[20:28:43] <JesusAlos> :)
[20:30:37] <L84Supper> andypugh: if you click on the link for any of the 3 positioners it drops down a list of specs
[20:30:45] <andypugh> JesusAlos: "halcmd show pin" can ne very useful
[20:31:48] <andypugh> L84Supper: Hmmm, yes. Sales pitch does not match spec error.
[20:32:36] <JesusAlos> I create a push button in axis and do this action: net resume_pulsador pyvcp.resumebutton => halui.program.resume => halui.spindle.start
[20:32:54] <JesusAlos> and create a error http://imagebin.org/248751
[20:33:34] <andypugh> Ah, yes. Is the system paused at the time?
[20:33:48] <JesusAlos> yes
[20:34:10] <andypugh> I think you need to stop before resuming.
[20:34:34] <JesusAlos> I start when is stop
[20:34:52] <JesusAlos> I need do in one action
[20:34:55] <andypugh> There are things that aren't allowed in pause, as pause is a special case of run
[20:35:28] <andypugh> Though I am vague on the details.
[20:35:45] <andypugh> I know that MDI commands don't work in pause. (or run)
[20:36:29] <andypugh> Though purely in HAL I would have thought that the halui.program.resume button ought to work.
[20:37:02] <andypugh> Does it work without the spindle.start part?
[20:37:27] <JesusAlos> I create a buton pause program and spindle
[20:37:32] <JesusAlos> and un ok
[20:37:58] <JesusAlos> but a button need resume and start spindle
[20:38:06] <JesusAlos> but this action don't run
[20:39:27] <andypugh> JesusAlos: This is something where all I know is that it is complicated, but not what it is about it that is complicated.
[20:41:34] <JesusAlos> there are a logical function delay?
[20:41:56] <andypugh> There are. That might not be what is required, though.
[20:42:32] <andypugh> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/timedelay.9.html But that migjht not be the answer
[20:43:50] <JesusAlos> Maybe when I push buton resume, start spindle and when time delay resume program
[20:44:37] <ReadError> is there a more feature rich UI addon
[20:44:45] <ReadError> something that lets you tweak acceleration and other fun stuff
[20:47:43] <andypugh> ReadError: I think that once the TP has the accelllerations it never looks again
[20:54:55] <Jymmm> http://www.google.com/search?q=zerg+rush
[21:07:27] <JesusAlos> GG
[21:20:42] <JesusAlos> andypug: net ResumePush timedelay.0.in <= pyvcp.resumebutton => halui.spindle.start
[21:20:46] <JesusAlos> it run ok
[21:20:50] <JesusAlos> thank
[21:28:51] <JesusAlos> GN
[22:10:44] <R2E4_> .
[22:11:05] <abetusk> I suppose it's bad form to ask about GRBL issues in this channel?
[22:46:55] <Connor> okay, so. On this Arrow 500 we're working on.. It has a resolver on the motor.. which will be replaced with a encoder... and a proximity switch that's keyed off the spindle pulley. 2:1 ratio.
[22:47:22] <Connor> the Proximity switch has a raised section on 1/2 the pulley, and not on the other half.
[22:48:44] <Connor> I'm thinking that we can use the rising edge, or falling edge as a index.. and use the encoder on the motor and be able to do rigid taping with it. and also be able to position the spindle correct orientation for the ATC.
[22:48:49] <Connor> anyone see any issues ?
[22:57:18] <jdh> if you are putting a new encoder on it, why not just use one with a Z
[23:48:12] <AR__> anyone know a good source of cheap single point thread mills?
[23:49:54] <Connor1> jdh Encoder would be on the motor.. and due to the 2:1 ratio.. it would have issues indexing tool for the ATC