#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-02-21

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[00:46:21] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[01:20:57] <mrsun_> hmm making gears with the button methode doesnt seem to produce true involute form ?
[01:32:59] <archivist> button?
[01:33:58] <mrsun_> yeah two round buttons of a given dimensions with a given spacing to cut gear cutters with
[01:34:15] <mrsun_> http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/designing-gear-cutters.html
[01:36:17] <archivist> ah that bodge
[01:37:31] <mrsun_> finding it hard to find anything good on gear cutting, people do it everywhere but its mostly like "here look i ground a tool, wont tell you how i did it but here i cut a gear with it!"
[01:37:32] <mrsun_> :P
[01:37:53] <mrsun_> i was thinking using the mill to grind a hss bit to shape for cutting gears for the lathe :P
[01:38:03] <archivist> I could tell you a few truths :)
[01:38:30] <mrsun_> like? :)
[01:38:31] <archivist> all depends on what the gear will be doing
[01:38:52] <mrsun_> rotating the leadscrew :P
[01:39:03] <mrsun_> and transfering power for the back gear on the lathe :P
[01:39:27] <archivist> you want a bit of accuracy for lead screw
[01:39:42] <archivist> and you dont want noisy
[01:40:18] <mrsun_> atm teeth are broken off etc on the bull gear on the lathe so its quuiite noisy :P
[01:40:24] <archivist> that means get closer to correct form
[01:40:47] <mrsun_> katchonk, katchonk over and over :P
[01:42:18] <archivist> I grind my tool to fit the least worn tooth profile under the microscope sometimes
[01:42:47] <mrsun_> with my grinding experience i will never be able to hand grind a tool :P
[01:44:44] <archivist> dremel and microscope can be delicate, use a finer grinding bit
[01:44:59] <Jymmm> Does anyone know what's involved in rifling a barrel?
[01:45:37] <Jymmm> (in a nut shell)
[01:45:50] <archivist> before hardening I have the microscope over the vice and use a file
[01:49:04] <mrsun_> ye true if you have drill rod i guess :P
[01:49:21] <mrsun_> but nicest would be to get them ground directly in hss :P
[01:50:12] <toastydeath> mrsun_, are you talking about manual gearcutting or cnc
[01:50:29] <mrsun_> using cnc mill to grind the tool
[01:50:32] <mrsun_> for cutting gears
[01:51:00] <toastydeath> do you have a cnc rotary table
[01:51:04] <mrsun_> no
[01:51:17] <toastydeath> ah, that would make the math a lot easier, oh well
[01:52:01] <toastydeath> and i assume the circular approximation isn't good enough?
[01:52:41] <mrsun_> i was thinking put a hss square blank in, and let the machine grind away to make a proper tooth form on the tool =)
[01:52:49] <mrsun_> toastydeath, i guess it is as its an very old lathe =)
[01:52:57] <mrsun_> and any tooth is better then no tooth i guess :P
[01:53:27] <toastydeath> I'm not sure where to find the math for an involute profile, but if you ever get your hands on a cnc rotary table, gearcutters can be easily made
[01:53:28] <archivist> mrsun_, or if I am nice I give you a program to generate the profile, but it does need a cnc rotary
[01:54:55] <Jymmm> mrsun_: in other words.... pucker up!
[01:55:15] <mrsun_> huh
[01:55:16] <mrsun_> ?
[01:55:17] <mrsun_> pucker ?
[01:55:50] <Jymmm> mrsun_: (Hint: Tell archivist his pretty and doesn't look fat in that dress is a good start)
[01:56:06] <mrsun_> haha =)
[01:56:08] <mrsun_> but he is!
[01:56:59] <Jymmm> mrsun_: See, now you phuked up... you didn't pucker up and he has no reason to be nice
[01:57:10] <mrsun_> haha =)
[01:57:12] <mrsun_> lol :P
[01:57:29] <mrsun_> and i actualy loled this time irl also! =)
[01:58:32] <toastydeath> mrsun_, if you have a rotab, you just carve the pressure angle of the gear onto each side of the wheel, and then you sync the spindle up/down speed with the perhiperal speed at the pitch diameter on the rotab
[01:58:33] <mrsun_> archivist, well if you are willing to share then sure =)
[01:58:46] <toastydeath> and essentially creep grind along
[01:59:12] <toastydeath> down at near full depth, feed in .001, up, feed, down, etc
[01:59:17] <toastydeath> redress, finish pass
[01:59:29] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:00:12] <toastydeath> since you're only doing one tooth for the cutter, it should go by pretty quickly
[02:01:19] <toastydeath> i guess if you wanted to grind a whole gear that would be fairly easy as well with a cnc mill
[02:02:06] <toastydeath> and faster, too
[02:02:19] <toastydeath> since there's no z axis movement and the rotab just spins
[02:03:33] <mrsun_> toastydeath, but i want to make cutters as i need to make missing gears for the lathe also
[02:03:35] <mrsun_> =)
[02:03:46] <archivist> the trick is it is easy to make a rack form cutter
[02:03:54] <toastydeath> the process for making a cutter is the same as making a whole gear
[02:04:39] <mrsun_> does diamond burrs work to grind hss? :)
[02:04:42] <toastydeath> i guess if you're trying to cut a whole tooth at once it's not, which is what you're probably trying to do
[02:05:03] <toastydeath> no, don't use diamond on hss
[02:08:49] <mrsun_> and to much material to grind away to use small grinders i guess also :P
[02:09:23] <mrsun_> what i was thinking was to have a grinding stone in the spindle, then put a hss blank on the horizontal plane in the mill and let it just grind out the profile on the cutter ... if you havent got that yet =)
[02:09:38] <mrsun_> then use that cutter in a mandrel to cut the gears :P
[02:12:51] <archivist> I made a cutter grinder last year to sharpen a rack form cutter http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2012/2012_11_01_Tool_grinder/IMG_1390.JPG
[02:13:12] <mrsun_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdX_oy3oQm0 something like that
[02:13:24] <archivist> http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2012/2012_11_07_Drive_gear/IMG_1400.JPG
[02:15:38] <mrsun_> problem is finding a grinding stone small enough for the kind of grinding im thinking :P
[02:16:03] <mrsun_> that is < 3mm dia
[02:17:00] <archivist> for a single point tool you dont need a small stone
[02:18:16] <mrsun_> well depends on the setup, if doing as i was thinking i would need one smaller then the smallest button, if i would make it so i turn the tool over when one side is done i could go with any size stone i guess =)
[02:19:48] <mrsun_> but i would guess the stones would wear fast and i would have to redress it a couple of times before i get the right form
[02:24:57] <archivist> remember with the button method they are turned to diameter
[02:25:18] <archivist> no form grinding needed
[02:25:29] <mrsun_> mm
[02:25:47] <mrsun_> but will they work good together with real gears from a factory ? :)
[02:26:23] <mrsun_> and i guess i would need toolsteel if i want the cutter to last any
[02:26:45] <archivist> your old gears are probably worn from true form anyway
[02:27:28] <archivist> but all this effort can be replaced by just buying a few stock gears
[02:34:03] <mrsun_> a few stock gears, bull gear for the lathe, and its not a south bend but a clone
[02:34:12] <mrsun_> dont know if its the same as for south bend or not
[02:34:18] <mrsun_> easy peasy
[02:34:24] <mrsun_> just go buy a gear in a grocery store ?
[02:45:59] <archivist> HPC
[02:46:45] <archivist> http://www.hpcgears.com/products/spur_gears.htm
[02:47:18] <archivist> and also http://www.davall.co.uk/davall-stock-gears/davall-stock-gears-overview/
[02:47:50] <archivist> and http://www.wmberg.com/products/Spur-Gears-Stock.aspx
[02:48:20] <archivist> but HPC is 30 miles from me :)
[02:54:03] <archivist> I tend to count the teeth and measure the OD and look up in an HPC catalogue to confirm my guess of module size or DP
[04:02:37] <mrsun_> archivist, hmm ye, to check the modulo size? found a thing about using two gears to do it
[04:03:01] <mrsun_> http://www.abbeyclock.com/gearing8.html i would shoot the one that has made the page for putting a clock that ticks on it tho :P
[04:04:51] <archivist> pick a gear , count teeth, measure the od tell me
[04:05:24] * archivist waits for the chimes
[04:06:19] <archivist> his clock graphic is different
[04:08:42] <mrsun_> heh gonna do that then :P
[04:09:39] <cncbasher> iv'e never known a digital clock tick !
[04:11:21] <archivist> there were mechanical digitals in the 60's70's made a flapping noise
[04:11:51] <cncbasher> yea i remember them
[04:13:48] <archivist> I am sitting here thinking if that graphic could be made mechanically...it does chime!
[04:14:10] <mrsun_> 32T, OD 51.05
[04:15:20] <archivist> 1.5 mod
[04:15:28] <mrsun_> 28T, 44.95 OD
[04:15:58] <archivist> 1.5 mod
[04:16:09] <mrsun_> is that from a table ?
[04:16:18] <mrsun_> does the OD change with the mod or the number of teeth ?
[04:16:18] <archivist> mebe
[04:16:39] <mrsun_> ahh the OD
[04:16:45] <mrsun_> changed quite a bit with the mod :P
[04:17:20] <mrsun_> now the preasure angle .. hmm
[04:17:49] <archivist> I just look in the dead tree HPC catalogue till I see a 32t gear at 51mm od
[04:18:03] <mrsun_> =)
[04:18:15] <mrsun_> plugged the things into gearotic also and got the same numbers =)
[04:18:49] <archivist> hmm 6 old HPC catalogues here on the shelf
[04:19:28] <mrsun_> archivist, any idea how to check the preasure angle ? i see the base diameter changes quite a bit with the preasure angle
[04:19:29] <archivist> always make a point of getting the latest when I go to a show
[04:20:25] <mrsun_> but the base diameter, is that even measurable? or is it the root diameter you can measure ?
[04:20:27] <archivist> exceedingly likely to be 20 degrees as its a metric module
[04:23:48] <archivist> I have an angle measuring eyepiece mounted on a travelling microscope if I want to measure relative angles
[04:24:16] <mrsun_> well atleast now the module is known =)
[04:24:29] <mrsun_> and hopefully 20 degrees then on the preasure angle :P
[04:38:47] <mrsun_> looks like the bull gear is mod 1.75 or so
[04:39:04] <mrsun_> measured on the back gear i got 24T at ~44.56 or so
[04:39:13] <mrsun_> 45.5 is mod 1.75 on 24T
[05:13:41] <archivist> clock chimes 11...coffee :)
[05:30:37] <DJ9DJ> clock chimes 12 times. lunch time! ;)
[06:36:00] <mrsun_> clock chimed and i smashed it with a sledge hammer
[06:36:11] <mrsun_> who the heck came up with the idea to make them sound :P
[06:40:40] <archivist> I am waiting to the 1 oclock chime
[06:54:33] <Tom_itx> 39 min to go
[07:02:59] <mrsun_> if it is 20 degree preasure angle i guess buying a couple of sets of involute gear cutters isnt that bad either :P
[07:03:06] <mrsun_> gears can always be good to be able to make :P
[07:08:14] <skunkworks> heh - it is interesting what the tool offset file is named http://www.cnczone.com/forums/1237106-post2.html
[07:31:40] <JesusAlos> hi
[07:31:45] <JesusAlos> hi
[07:32:45] <JesusAlos> pcw_home: My machine run, with probles for configuration, but run
[07:33:13] <JesusAlos> the las problem, resolve increase the error value
[07:34:26] <JesusAlos> I think there are a problem with my servos, because they move until I don't put order
[07:35:05] <JesusAlos> even I disconnect the analog input driver wire, they move
[07:35:18] <JesusAlos> a bit, but move
[07:36:09] <JesusAlos> so, when I increase the error value in pncconf, it resolve
[07:39:53] <JesusAlos> now, I have other problem
[07:40:19] <JesusAlos> wen Y axis go homing, appears two errors
[07:40:45] <JesusAlos> "Joint 1 on limit switch error"
[07:41:03] <JesusAlos> "Exceded negative soft limit on joint 1"
[07:59:46] <jthornton> hmm, adding a tool tip text to the glade interface designer causes a segmentation fault
[08:53:09] <JT-Shop> PCW: thanks
[08:53:40] <JT-Shop> JesusAlos: how did you set up your homing for that axis?
[08:54:22] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: we are just starting to get the frozen precip here
[09:02:46] <JT-Shop> what can be more fun than dumping the ash bucket just as a gust of wind shows up?
[09:03:43] <Jymmm> dumping the outhouse bucket
[09:04:03] <JT-Shop> outhouse don't have a bucket... they have a hole in the ground
[09:04:30] <Jymmm> ok, dumping the shitter bucket
[09:05:08] <JesusAlos> JT-Shop: By default
[09:05:11] <Jymmm> emptying a pressurized black water tank and the hose falls off
[09:05:18] <JesusAlos> the same like X
[09:05:27] <JesusAlos> this axis run ok
[09:05:52] <JesusAlos> In Pncwizard, don't see the homming configuration
[09:06:23] <JT-Shop> sounds like it is not moving off of the limit switch as part of the homing move
[09:06:31] <Tom_itx> ok probably another 8" overnight...
[09:06:37] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: You've never seen these? http://mcdn.toolking.com/catalog/product/l/u/luggableloo_341086_341087.jpg
[09:07:47] <JT-Shop> kinda sorta yea
[09:08:19] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: 5Gal bucket with a butt gasket and lid
[09:08:28] <JesusAlos> where is the homming configuration?
[09:12:55] <Tom_itx> it's about as easy to set it all up manually
[09:23:38] <Jymmm> I hate having to buy a new phone =(
[09:23:57] <JesusAlos> I have a question
[09:24:01] <Jymmm> But it's somewhat cheaper than just buying a replacement battery
[09:24:27] <JesusAlos> How I can stop spindle when push pause button of axis?
[09:24:38] <JesusAlos> and turn on whe quit pause
[09:33:05] <JT-Shop> look at the program and spindle pins of halui
[09:33:11] <JT-Shop> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man1/halui.1.html
[09:34:59] <Jymmm> alex_joni: Dont you have a Nokia N900?
[09:37:01] <JesusAlos> You say that i need programming this
[09:47:38] <mrsun_> yeah! my father had silver solder and flux in a box :P so i can try it out atleast! =)
[09:47:44] <mrsun_> old flux but seems to do the job
[09:49:20] <JT-Shop> JesusAlos: yep
[10:17:37] <pcw_home> JesusAlos: its normal for velocity mode servo drives to creep slowly if they are enabled and their inputs are not driven
[10:22:07] <pcw_home> As far as the following errors go, this is likely a tuning issue
[10:22:09] <pcw_home> Have you gone through JT-Shops velocity mode tuning tutorial?
[10:22:10] <pcw_home> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/servo.html
[10:49:31] <JesusAlos> See you
[10:50:16] <JesusAlos> Where i can found the homing configuration?
[10:51:05] <pcw_home> integrators manual
[10:55:59] <JesusAlos> ok
[10:59:05] <tjb1> pcw_home was your cat awakened last night?
[11:07:04] <JesusAlos> Why my machine go start button down if are any switch travel On?
[11:07:37] <JesusAlos> and can't put start until the switch go off
[11:09:05] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[11:09:48] <pcw_home> No cats
[11:10:08] <Jymmm> pcw_home: wombats?
[11:10:36] <Jymmm> pcw_home: honey badgers?
[11:10:44] <pcw_home> a couple 3 rabbits and a dog that sleeps very soundly
[11:12:19] <Jymmm> oh that's right, you live on a farm
[11:12:57] <pcw_home> well semi-urban farm
[11:13:25] * Loetmichel will play FPS an hour or two, then get the companys QM-handbook and a teay and study a bit... tomorrow is Iso9001 audit... i SHOULD have read the boot alt least once ;-)
[11:13:42] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Yeah =)
[11:14:32] <DJ9DJ> Loetmichel: -y, -y+ie, -t+k, -l ^^
[11:14:48] <pcw_home> JesusAlos: sounds like you need homing/limits configured
[11:14:54] <Loetmichel> DJ9DJ: grammar nazi!
[11:14:59] <DJ9DJ> indeed :D
[11:15:19] <DJ9DJ> and perhaps -y+ie was wrong ;)
[11:15:31] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Do you know of any MILITARY surplus places in NorCal by chance?
[11:16:03] <DJ9DJ> time for dinner
[11:23:53] <pcw_home> No, all the ones I used to know dried up years ago
[11:25:02] <pcw_home> well you can always bid on govliquidation stuff...
[11:25:55] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Yeah, there is one in Fremont but it's scary, overpriced, and mostly clothing
[11:26:37] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Nah, I want to walk in and smell that 40+ years of storage smell =)
[11:27:48] <Jymmm> pcw_home: There are a couple in SAC, but one isn't really old surplus stuff.
[11:33:42] <Loetmichel> hmmm, same problem here. Since my servioce time i am searching for the german navy combat suit. because its like a nechanics clothing but more convenient (blue heavy linnen, with zips instead of buttons and velcro for the leg pockets
[11:34:01] <Loetmichel> and i was in the navy around '90/91 ;-)
[11:35:05] <Jymmm> What came after Vietnam war?
[11:43:40] <pcw_home> Here's a nice truck for jymmm
[11:43:42] <pcw_home> http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=6044267&convertTo=USD
[11:44:46] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Think it'll pass smog?
[11:46:09] <pcw_home> Ha
[11:46:32] <Jymmm> =)
[11:46:52] <pcw_home> 2 hours total time we really got our tax money worth on that one...
[11:47:46] <Jymmm> Yeah, how else do you deliver 10,000 case of boose to the pre-election party?
[11:47:51] <Jymmm> cases
[11:48:16] <Jymmm> to the whitehouse
[11:49:19] <Jymmm> pcw_home: I wonder if ebay took way of surplus stores?
[11:50:17] <pcw_home> Yeah govliquidation did anyway
[11:51:09] <Jymmm> Well, I don't think I need 35,000 canteens
[11:52:03] <pcw_home> Ive bought a few things from govliquidation
[11:52:53] <Jymmm> such as?
[11:53:31] <pcw_home> some scope plug-ins
[11:53:37] <Jymmm> ah
[11:53:51] <pcw_home> some scopes
[11:54:55] <pcw_home> for some reason Ive alway been temped to buy one of those turbine APUs though it would probably annoy the neighbors
[11:56:02] <Jymmm> and your wallet fueling it
[11:56:18] <pcw_home> Needs a little work:
[11:56:20] <pcw_home> http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=6072303&cm_re=gl-homepage2-carousel-_-item-2
[11:56:26] <Jymmm> "Yeah, I need 35,000 gallons delivered please"
[11:57:37] <pcw_home> this is rather nice:
[11:57:39] <pcw_home> http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=6053907&cm_re=gl-homepage1-carousel-_-item-1
[11:58:17] <Jymmm> that plane iis out near Yosemite, I suspect Marine Trianing Camp or Forestry
[11:58:50] <Jymmm> pcw_home: HA! Delivery from Hawaii is gonna be a bitch
[11:59:47] <pcw_home> no free shipping?
[12:00:24] <Jymmm> On any order $100,000 or more, tax excluded =)
[12:03:44] <Jymmm> pcw_home: I dont need 35 sleeping bags, one good one will do =)
[12:04:36] <Jymmm> pcw_home: Nor do I need 2430 canteens http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=6072434&convertTo=USD
[12:06:52] <IchGuckLive> hi all B(
[12:12:03] <Jymmm> pcw_home: This is interesting (Scottsdale AZ) http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/
[12:14:29] <pcw_home> so govliquidation has a retail outlet
[12:14:54] <pcw_home> buy those cateens and start your own!
[12:14:56] <Jymmm> Seems so.
[12:15:15] <Jymmm> flat rate shiping too
[12:16:14] <IchGuckLive> doesent have every army around the world got ther overload stuff selling
[12:16:29] <Jymmm> pcw_home: But, not much of a deal... USED http://www.amazon.com/Ontario-SP16-Knife-Sheath-Black/dp/B001CXPKEK and then NEW http://www.amazon.com/Ontario-SP16-Knife-Sheath-Black/dp/B001CXPKEK
[12:16:45] <Jymmm> USED http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Ontario-SP16-SPAX-Survival-Axe-Hatchet-p/1912.htm
[12:19:08] <Jymmm> http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/Tennier-Industries-Modular-Sleep-System-never-iss-p/549.htm
[12:21:54] <Jymmm> pcw_home: LOL, I guess the gubermint dont use wool blankets anymore or are keeping them all =)
[12:22:44] <IchGuckLive> today there wars a big TV show presenting the new Reprap in Tokyo Gamer show
[12:23:08] <Jymmm> pcw_home: YAY BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.govliquidation.com/auction/view?auctionId=6030787&cm_re=gl-hotlots-audiovideophoto-carousel-_-item-3
[12:26:37] <pcw_home> You need that in your backyard
[12:27:28] <pcw_home> Party poopers want it demil-ed
[12:30:04] <Jymmm> silly noobies
[13:13:24] <IchGuckLive> cold very cold night here in Germany
[13:13:55] <JesusAlos> GN
[13:33:02] <rizo> hello
[13:35:15] <rizo> i am testing the hal bldc component. I would like to signal the component that the index has bee reached. I tried to connect the signal to bldc.N.index-enable pin as described in man. The problem is that the index.enable pin is defined as I/O and it does not allow some output to be connected to it.
[13:35:46] <rizo> Strange, why would index-enable pine be defined as I/O?
[13:36:43] <pcw_home> because its both an index enable and a flag that index has been detected
[13:37:38] <pcw_home> (I think it would have been better as 2 unidirectional pins but it is what it is)
[13:38:26] <rizo> so how can i connect the signal from index switch to index-enable pin?
[13:39:11] <rizo> i get an error "signal can not add to I/= pin, it alredy has OUT pin"
[13:39:27] <pcw_home> umm index enable is usually controled by motion. index may come from a switch
[13:39:28] <rizo> i get an error "signal can not add I/0 pin, it alredy has OUT pin"
[13:40:11] <rizo> but the switch is OUT
[13:40:46] <pcw_home> and index enable normally does not connect to any external signal
[13:40:56] <pcw_home> index does
[13:41:33] <pcw_home> is this for homing?
[13:44:23] <rizo> I have i switch, but i can not connect the switch sigbal to index.-enable pin
[13:44:24] <rizo> how should i signal to bldc that the index was reached?
[13:45:09] <rizo> yes
[13:46:15] <rizo> there is no index pin in bldc component
[13:46:24] <pcw_home> by connecting index enable to the bldc component
[13:47:30] <pcw_home> index is an input to the encoder component (and index enable is an I/O pin of the encoder component and motion)
[13:48:15] <pcw_home> and a input only on BLDC
[13:49:30] <rizo> i see, but i am not using the encoder
[13:49:58] <rizo> i have my own .comp that stores the position
[13:51:51] <rizo> can i somehow trick the bldc and connect some signal to end the homing sequence
[14:01:17] <pcw_home> or dont use index to align the rotor (use Hall or so other scheme)
[14:06:03] <pcw_home> how are you getting feedback? (if its not an encoder but rather something absolute you dont need BLDC homing anyway)
[14:08:07] <rizo> it is incremental optical encoder. But it is to fast for emc, so i used fpga.
[14:08:46] <rizo> I use epp to transfer data to emc.
[14:09:05] <pcw_home> normally the driver that interfaces with the FPGA supplies the index enable pin to HAL
[14:09:59] <pcw_home> bbl
[14:43:00] <rizo> pcw_home, i will try and modify the driver, thank you for the suggestions
[15:30:08] <linlin> why does #emc come here ?
[15:30:42] <archivist> the project was renamed
[15:31:01] <archivist> some evil corp grr
[15:46:12] <DaViruz> those EMC^2 guys?
[15:47:20] <Loetmichel> right
[15:51:08] <DaViruz> they sponsor some formula 1 team, i've always jiggled little when i see the EMC2 logo on a F1 car.
[16:34:17] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:57:26] <r00t4rd3d> https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710
[18:40:45] <skunkworks> logger[p
[18:40:50] <skunkworks> logger[psha]:
[18:40:50] <logger[psha]> skunkworks: Log stored at http://psha.org.ru/irc/%23linuxcnc/2013-02-22.html
[20:40:40] <Jymmm> Ok, who shops at ASDA ?
[20:46:06] <tjb1> https://www.dropbox.com/s/fxcumkrneq4rcai/Screen%20Shot%202013-02-21%20at%209.29.02%20PM.png
[20:46:12] <tjb1> Does that look like an o-ring on the end of that?
[20:47:09] <Valen> the little black thing? yeah
[20:48:10] <tjb1> Im trying to get the length of threads on the end of that
[20:48:16] <tjb1> Is that a standard?
[20:48:57] <Valen> nfi
[20:49:58] <tjb1> nfi?
[20:51:51] <tjb1> http://www.mcmaster.com/#cadinlnord/5225k503/=lkytwj
[20:52:52] <Valen> no "fine" idea
[21:35:53] <uminded> Hello, I have a working Xenomai kernel on my A13-Olinuxino board. is their any good resources on compiling linuxcnc on arm boards? (armv7t-a)
[21:44:27] <uminded> anybody alive in here?
[21:53:53] <tjb1> Yes but I can't help you
[22:35:08] <r00t4rd3d> there is some raspberry pi tuts on doing it
[22:35:11] <r00t4rd3d> probably be the same
[22:35:47] <r00t4rd3d> http://raspberrypi.org/phpBB3//viewtopic.php?f=37&t=14122
[22:37:41] <r00t4rd3d> http://code.google.com/p/miniemc2/
[22:37:51] <r00t4rd3d> thats another thing you could try
[22:38:09] <r00t4rd3d> " Project utilize Linux kernel version 2.6.35.9 with i-pipe and Xenomia support"
[22:39:35] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: router running yet?
[22:40:16] <r00t4rd3d> tomorrow i am going to cut some jobs
[22:40:45] <tjb1> What did you just get extended carriages?
[22:40:52] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[22:41:03] <tjb1> How much travel did you lose
[22:41:08] <tjb1> 4"?
[22:41:28] <r00t4rd3d> none really
[22:41:36] <tjb1> Oh yeah, Torque released an update and it now works with my phone
[22:43:13] <r00t4rd3d> send me the apk
[22:43:33] <tjb1> Where is that at on the phone?
[22:43:56] <r00t4rd3d> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1563894
[22:44:03] <r00t4rd3d> thats the easiest way
[22:44:36] <r00t4rd3d> a good way to keep a personal copy of paid apps to for backup
[22:45:03] <tjb1> google does that for me
[22:46:10] <r00t4rd3d> see they barely got ubuntu running on the n7
[22:46:33] <r00t4rd3d> you see googles new toys?
[22:46:57] <r00t4rd3d> https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_acer_c710
[22:47:06] <tjb1> the n7 is slow enough
[22:47:22] <tjb1> Glorified tablet?
[22:47:35] <r00t4rd3d> i dont think its touch screen, not that model
[22:47:44] <r00t4rd3d> https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=chromebook_pixel_wifi
[22:47:46] <r00t4rd3d> that one is
[22:47:51] <tjb1> Well it can only do what a tablet can basically
[22:48:04] <tjb1> lol $1300
[22:48:58] <r00t4rd3d> did you read the specs?
[22:49:41] <tjb1> Who cares, it cant run solidworks
[22:50:16] <r00t4rd3d> yeah thats a deal breaker
[22:50:28] <tjb1> Its just a really expensive tablet
[22:50:41] <r00t4rd3d> i just want the 199 acer
[22:50:53] <r00t4rd3d> you can run all the android apps on it
[22:52:05] <r00t4rd3d> funny it cost more then my Nexus 7 :/
[22:52:10] <r00t4rd3d> i mean less
[22:52:29] <tjb1> Well if the nexus 4 worked on CDMA I would have it...
[22:53:50] <tjb1> How is the Nexus 4 $350 and the SGS3 is $600
[22:53:55] <r00t4rd3d> i brought my machine inside for the night to warm up
[22:54:27] <r00t4rd3d> google would rather have the world own their device then make a profit
[22:55:07] <r00t4rd3d> i will never purchase another samsung device in my life
[22:55:46] <tjb1> Why?
[22:56:28] <r00t4rd3d> they only care about their new line of shit
[22:56:43] <tjb1> Thats why you run custom roms
[22:56:48] <tjb1> Im on a 4.2.1 rom
[22:57:01] <r00t4rd3d> soon as they release the galaxy iv they will forget about the s3
[22:57:12] <tjb1> I dont need them :P
[22:57:27] <tjb1> I certainly dont need Verizon either
[22:58:59] <r00t4rd3d> i had 4.2.2 installed 10 minutes after it was released
[22:59:17] <r00t4rd3d> reason 1 to get a google branded device
[22:59:44] <uw> anyone ever use littlemachineshop website?
[22:59:49] <uw> for buying stuff?
[23:26:39] <t12> https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/166717_427975530617876_1356157159_n.jpg
[23:29:49] <r00t4rd3d> repost
[23:31:56] <tjb1> http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/521399_10200311156637527_1097882799_n.jpg
[23:32:07] <tjb1> I want that but it said something about curdled milk so no
[23:50:53] <r00t4rd3d> baileys and amaretto
[23:52:27] <r00t4rd3d> schnapps for the clear
[23:53:39] <r00t4rd3d> half full with schnapps the other half baileys then slowley drizzle in some amaretto
[23:54:24] <r00t4rd3d> douche bag bar drink
[23:54:57] <tjb1> lol
[23:55:49] <r00t4rd3d> a cement mixer is curdling one.
[23:56:29] <r00t4rd3d> or just do a shot of baileys and a shot of lime juice
[23:56:30] <tjb1> And this curdled stuff taste like?
[23:56:30] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[23:58:15] <r00t4rd3d> get a girl drunk and give a cement mixed lol
[23:58:23] <r00t4rd3d> wow i fucked that up
[23:58:58] <r00t4rd3d> *get a girl drunk and give her a cement mixer
[23:59:20] <r00t4rd3d> it will be funny for you
[23:59:37] <tjb1> Why is that