#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-02-13

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[00:17:04] <tjb1> So you finally did it Jymmm
[00:17:35] <Jymmm> Yeah, about 100 miles ago. andI did NOT drop the tank
[00:17:51] <tjb1> You put an ebay fuel pump in...
[00:17:53] <tjb1> What is wrong with you
[00:18:03] <Jymmm> I like to save my money.
[00:19:03] <tjb1> by putting in a fuel pump you may be replacing in a month
[00:22:08] <r00t4rd3d> you +q someone for off topic bullshit then go on about it yourself?
[00:22:14] <r00t4rd3d> thats pretty fucked up
[00:22:47] <tjb1> What the hell is +q
[00:22:52] <r00t4rd3d> mute
[00:23:02] <Jymmm> r00t4rd3d: No, that was for him being a dick.
[00:23:16] <Jymmm> or acting like one that is.
[00:23:43] <tjb1> 4.2.2 update?
[00:23:52] <tjb1> Im on CM10.1
[00:34:09] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[01:51:59] <diginet> question: how are, in general, alloys developed? is it just more or less guesswork?
[01:56:51] <bedah> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallurgy
[01:57:36] <Jymmm> Centuries of "Well, that didn't work" =)
[01:58:52] <diginet> that's what I thought :(
[01:59:22] <diginet> what is the most corrosion resistant alloy that we know of?
[01:59:24] <Jymmm> diginet: I joke
[01:59:47] <Jymmm> titanium
[02:00:29] <diginet> there's thing called HD-Rosetta, it's basically like microfiche, but it's intended to last for millenia, anyway, it uses a pure nickel plate, and I was thinking about why nickel was chosen
[02:01:51] <Jymmm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel
[02:02:12] <Jymmm> Nickel can even be found in outter space
[02:02:52] <Jymmm> Titanium is $$$$$$$$$$
[02:04:03] <Jymmm> Then there's Platinum
[02:06:03] <diginet> isn't iridium better than platinum in terms of inertness?
[02:06:36] <Jymmm> No idea, most are out of my price range to find out =)
[02:07:02] <diginet> heh
[02:07:05] <Jymmm> hi DJ9DJ_
[02:07:14] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:07:17] <DJ9DJ> hi Jymmm :D
[02:41:26] <samkan> hi
[04:55:41] <Tecan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCrixbXz4rc
[05:27:50] <bigvalen> Mutter. I have an Adobe Illustrator file of a logo I want to mill. Alas, though Inkscape can load it, when I use Inkscape's GCodeTools to try make GCode from it, Inkscape crashes.
[05:28:11] <bigvalen> What other tools might be able to generate GCode from a .AI or .SVG file ?
[06:50:27] <Mr_Wolfs> what is the version of Gcodetools?
[06:55:04] <bigvalen> No idea.
[06:55:46] <bigvalen> It's really hard to tell. But the 'check for updates' says there is a more recent version...though it gives a URL to the same version I just downloaded.
[06:55:49] <Mr_Wolfs> Do you have a section help?
[06:56:19] <Mr_Wolfs> I use the Gcodetools 1.4 it's better
[06:57:28] <bigvalen> Seems I'm using 1.7
[06:58:01] <Mr_Wolfs> I prefer the 1.4 Can you try it
[06:58:51] <bigvalen> Any idea where you can get that ?
[06:59:03] <Mr_Wolfs> google is your friend
[06:59:34] <bigvalen> Ah, same page as 1.7, same filename, different download location
[06:59:40] * bigvalen shakes fist at the gods
[07:02:06] <bigvalen> Nah, that segfaulted inkscape too.
[07:02:56] <Mr_Wolfs> wait I'm trying to search the file
[07:11:10] <Mr_Wolfs> you put this file in the extension in usr/share/inkscape/
[07:12:24] <Loetmichel> bigvalen^: not a giid idea, most deitys are resentful
[07:12:36] <Loetmichel> good
[08:15:05] <Mr_Wolfs> How can I put the velocity for Z axis in the kinematics?
[08:17:03] <Mr_Wolfs> cause when I start a .ngc I can see on the halscope that the velocity of my Z axis is better than the MAX_VELOCITY in the .ini file
[08:20:38] <jthornton> max velocity for the Z axis or in general?
[08:20:51] <Mr_Wolfs> no just Z axis
[08:21:54] <jthornton> do you have backlash compensation?
[08:22:03] <Mr_Wolfs> no
[08:22:19] <jthornton> odd indeed
[08:22:43] <jdh> one of your axes is violating the max velocity constraint?
[08:22:49] <Mr_Wolfs> really
[08:23:19] <cradek> I think in kins mode, the TRAJ settings take over and you only have one max velocity and accel setting for every direction
[08:23:33] <Mr_Wolfs> the other axe is faster
[08:23:48] <Mr_Wolfs> yes then Can I change that
[08:24:01] <cradek> not at the kins level
[08:24:15] <cradek> well do you mean can you change the max? yes
[08:24:16] <Mr_Wolfs> I don't want the TRAJ take over
[08:24:36] <cradek> what kind of machine is it? what are you using kins to do?
[08:25:19] <Mr_Wolfs> no cause if I change the max the X Y axes will move slowly
[08:25:26] <Mr_Wolfs> I use a XYZBC
[08:25:35] <Mr_Wolfs> I have a 5axiskins.c
[08:26:27] <cradek> I see
[08:26:41] <cradek> I don't have any good advice for you then, sorry
[08:26:57] <Mr_Wolfs> oh
[08:27:10] <Mr_Wolfs> and if I change in the command.c
[08:29:36] <Mr_Wolfs> in EMCMOT_SET_TELEOP_VECTOR
[08:30:00] <cradek> are you talking about world mode jogging?
[08:30:05] <cradek> or running gcode?
[08:30:13] <Mr_Wolfs> the both
[08:30:39] <cradek> if you're interested in working on it, try the joints_axes3 branch
[08:31:05] <cradek> it has some improvements to this (including the removal of TELEOP_VECTOR style jogging) but is probably pretty stale by now and needs to be brought up to date
[08:32:58] <Mr_Wolfs> cause when I'm running a gcode , I'm in worl mode?
[08:33:19] <micges> joints_axes3 is quite stable, got it on few production machines
[08:33:48] <Mr_Wolfs> then axe A
[08:34:00] <cradek> micges: excellent, I did not know
[08:34:34] <Mr_Wolfs> axe A instead of axe B
[08:37:04] <micges> cradek: few days ago I've installed XB machine with gentrivkins on it, works perfectly
[08:39:27] <Mr_Wolfs> I can change the Z axe in B
[08:39:47] <Mr_Wolfs> euh A
[08:42:33] <Mr_Wolfs> I'm lost cause I can't understand that we can put the velocity independently
[11:24:28] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[11:25:29] <Tecan> hts 2000 looks like amazing shit
[12:25:03] <andypugh> I <3 eBay: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rUjDMMHTxhHQ5CKnp9kvmNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[12:25:29] <andypugh> I think that's me sorted for tooling :-)
[12:26:28] <archivist> grrrr
[12:26:42] <andypugh> I outbid you?
[12:27:06] <jdh> nice score
[12:27:09] <archivist> no, not at all, I am keeping of it at the moment
[12:27:22] <andypugh> £77 :-)
[12:27:50] <archivist> cheap enough!
[12:28:08] <andypugh> (Which was half my max bid, and I would have felt I had a bargain at that price, to be honest)
[12:28:30] <andypugh> All SK30 not BT30, but that's no problem.
[12:28:59] <andypugh> (Actually, two are BT30)
[12:29:12] <andypugh> Just means that any toolchanger I make has to handle both.
[12:31:37] <andypugh> Whenever I search eBay for SK30 tooling, it offers me this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360295157811 I can't say I mind...
[12:31:59] <andypugh> Better than "30 INT" which returns trousers for gay men...
[12:32:00] <P_2800> hallo zusammen, ist hier jemand der mit auf deutsch weiterhelfen kann bei der Einrichtung der Werkzeuglängenmessung
[12:33:38] <jthornton> what is a Werkzeuglšngenmessung
[12:33:49] <andypugh> P_2800: You just missed one
[12:34:02] <andypugh> jthornton: Tool length
[12:34:29] <jthornton> ah I never would have guessed that one
[12:34:38] <archivist> wake Loetmichel to help
[12:34:44] <DJ9DJ> hrhr
[12:34:56] <andypugh> work-stuff-length-measure :-)
[12:35:02] <archivist> or DJ9DJ
[12:35:16] <P_2800> sorry, but my english is not good. i surching a german user to help me
[12:35:22] <DJ9DJ> i have no idea of tool length measurement stuff :/
[12:35:36] <andypugh> You could translate?
[12:36:16] <archivist> and we all can use google translate
[12:37:32] <jthornton> and like magic there Loetmichel is
[12:37:46] <P_2800> ok, I try to use google translate
[12:38:11] <archivist> your english looks ok anyway
[12:39:00] <tjb1> lol jthornton, you need to try again
[12:39:10] <Loetmichel> who calls?
[12:39:11] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[12:39:50] <DJ9DJ> ^^
[12:39:58] <P_2800> how can I set in the tool length measurement linuxcnc 2.5.1 switches with the most?
[12:40:04] <Loetmichel> also: i never used a tool lenght sensor in linuxCNC, sorry
[12:41:21] <andypugh> Are you wanting to use automatic tool-length measurement (Sind Sie wollen, um die automatische Werkzeug-Längenmessung verwenden)
[12:42:51] <Loetmichel> HRHR, i love google translate ;-)
[12:43:36] <Loetmichel> andypugh: "wollen Sie (Willst Du) die automatische werkzeuglängenmessung verwenden?"
[12:44:04] <P_2800> I want to change the tool manually measure the tool length and then automatically
[12:44:45] <jthornton> google translate starts to break down after "where is the wash room?" and "how much is it?"
[12:45:51] <jthornton> tjb1, some guy on the forum is thinking about using an Ardunio for a THC... want to give him some tips?
[12:46:05] <andypugh> P_2800: Feel free to write in German. It is probably easier for us to figure out your question with Google than for you to ask the question in English.
[12:46:22] <ReadError> i wish mr UPS would show up with my new toy ;(
[12:47:06] <andypugh> My replacement ball nut arrived today, as did some 8" pewter discs for metal spinning :-)
[12:47:19] <frallzor> http://imageshack.us/a/img708/5440/img4798xt.jpg for valentines! no wonder my gf loves me! =P
[12:47:25] <ReadError> got my router coming today
[12:47:37] <jthornton> nice, they replaced it without you having to resort to violence?
[12:47:49] <P_2800> ok, dann versuch ich es mal ohne google :-)
[12:48:42] <andypugh> frallzor: some form of lantern pinion gear?
[12:48:44] * jthornton wanders off for a nap
[12:49:05] <frallzor> some form of nice thingie only
[12:49:07] <jthornton> frallzor, nice
[12:49:21] <P_2800> mein problem ist die automatische Werkzeuglängenmessung nach einem manuellen Werkzeugwechsel
[12:49:33] <frallzor> one of vectrics nice projekts with some custom text =)
[12:51:25] <andypugh> P_2800: One solution is to separate the the program into sections, one for each tool. You can then call a tool-probe routine at the start of each section.
[12:51:51] <andypugh> However, I think some folk have made it all automatic, let me see if I can find the example.
[12:52:19] <jdh> every time I give out that tool-change-probe thing, people say it is a bad idea
[12:52:35] <skunkworks> I thought there was a example in the gcode examples
[12:52:44] <skunkworks> example example
[12:53:15] <jdh> s/probe/jog/
[12:53:30] <skunkworks> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=nc_files/tool-length-probe.ngc;h=8b41233d2afe19ef6b9f17706108d0eb356f066b;hb=HEAD
[12:53:55] <Jymmm> s/jog/run/forest/run/
[12:53:59] <andypugh> Yes, I just found that there is an example in the sim/remap section
[12:54:15] <tjb1> jthornton: Buy the THC A-D
[12:54:32] <tjb1> Unless he/she knows what they are doing with an arduino
[12:55:34] <diginet> >knows what they are doing
[12:55:38] <diginet> >uses an arduino
[12:55:43] <diginet> don't make me laugh
[12:55:54] <andypugh> P_2800: You might want to install the latest development version (from the buildbot: http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org ) and then look at the sim/remap tool-length-probe example. This uses a new feature that allows G-codes to be re-mapped to G-code routines: http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/remap/structure.html
[12:56:22] <tjb1> diginet: You the one doing it?
[12:56:22] <P_2800> das programm "tool-length-probe.ngc" habe ich schon ich brauche noch ein PyVCP Fenster
[12:56:38] <diginet> tjb1: no, I was just kidding around :P
[12:56:55] <diginet> not a big fan of the overpriced subpar AVR board, I mean arduino
[12:57:34] <andypugh> P_2800: It is just an example, there is a complete working demo config in the development version of LinuxCNC
[12:57:59] <tjb1> diginet: Its easy to program if you are stupid like me :)
[12:58:04] <andypugh> P_2800: And, luckily, the chap who wrote that example speaks German. :-)
[12:58:52] <diginet> tjb1: oh, you aren't stupid! Ha, the problem, in my opinion, is that it gives you a false sense of security and impedes learning what is actually going on
[12:59:22] <diginet> and I think it is way overpriced
[12:59:54] <andypugh> diginet: It doesn't have to, you can still read the AVR manuals and set registers by hand. And even if it is overpriced, it is still cheap :-)
[13:00:43] <Jymmm> andypugh: s/it/he/
[13:00:56] <diginet> I'm just not a fan of its community and the "omg we're hackers we're changing the world zomg gaiz" crowd (not referring to you guys though)
[13:01:25] <jdh> I like them.
[13:01:53] <diginet> that, and the overengineering, I see arduinos used when a simple 555 or something like that would suffice
[13:01:59] <diginet> or a few shift registers
[13:01:59] <diginet> it's absurd
[13:02:22] <P_2800> geht das tool-length-probe auch mit einem PyVCP Window?
[13:03:20] <andypugh> P_2800: http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=tree;f=configs/sim/remap/manual-toolchange-with-tool-length-switch;h=2d643d6390d562766d456d84da8ebe0498b174c0;hb=HEAD
[13:04:02] <tjb1> diginet: arduino is easier for people like me instead of using 555 and all the other stuff
[13:04:38] <tjb1> I like to build things, not play with eletricity or programming…but would rather stumble through programming than try to piece together something electrical
[13:04:40] <andypugh> diginet: If you only want the 555-equivalent for a few hours then an Arduino is just easier.
[13:05:02] <Jymmm> diginet: That's like judging meat because PETA exists.
[13:05:16] <diginet> but that's not really learning is it?
[13:05:38] <diginet> you have to learn the fundamentals to really understand what you're doing
[13:05:43] <Jymmm> diginet: What if it's not about learning, and just getting the job done.
[13:06:02] <diginet> Jymmm: whichever, you can do a better job if you understand the theory
[13:06:18] <andypugh> I recently used an Arduino to alter a PWM duty-cycle on a car. I could have developed a 555 circuit (probably) but it only took minutes with an Arduino, and the test was over in an hour.
[13:06:27] <tjb1> diginet: some of us dont have time to learn the theory ;)
[13:06:36] <diginet> it's like trying to learn about relativity without understanding classical mechanics, you can't start from the top and expect to have a solid grasp
[13:06:51] <Jymmm> diginet: Doesn't make it better, just different. And if you had to change the timing, it's much faster reflshing, than resoldering.
[13:07:01] <P_2800> danke andypugh das werde ich mal versuchen, wenn es nicht klappt, dann komme ich wieder :-)
[13:07:01] <andypugh> Yes, but, my brain is full. I can't learn anything new :-)
[13:07:19] * Jymmm hands andypugh a shovel.
[13:07:45] <jdh> you use a 555? why not just make your own timer? really, buying one for that is just absurd
[13:08:18] <andypugh> P_2800: I am fairly sure that that example will _only_ work with the development (2.6 / Master) version of LinuxCNC
[13:08:31] <andypugh> jdh: Out of clockwork :-)
[13:08:43] <diginet> jdh: that's kind of fallacious, using a 555 instead of a microcontroller is more efficient if all you require is a simple timer
[13:09:37] <jdh> of course it was fallacious
[13:09:54] <andypugh> I need to wait a day for the 555 timer to turn up, too.
[13:10:11] <jdh> I have some in a box somewhere
[13:10:16] <andypugh> (actually, I am pretty sure I have a few of them, but there are other things I don't have)
[13:10:24] <jdh> I probably have one on a breadboard somewhere
[13:11:12] <andypugh> I think the problem here is that we are in partial agreement with diginet, so having to argue unusually hard to disguise the fact :-)
[13:11:26] <Jymmm> It's pretty pathetic if you can't make/use a simple timer from legos http://www.wimp.com/legoantikythera/
[13:12:24] <jdh> I don't really know anything about the 'community', but I do know about silly arguments.
[13:12:41] <andypugh> Arghh! The collective noun for "Lego(tm)" is "Lego". It's like building a chair out of "woods"
[13:13:03] <jdh> and everyone has different goals and motivations. Assuming everyone else has the same is pointless.
[13:13:07] <Jymmm> andypugh: goony goo goo
[13:13:42] <andypugh> jdh: I disagree! I have neither goals nor motivations :-)
[13:14:24] <archivist> AM9513 is a far better timer :)
[13:15:10] <Jymmm> archivist: You need to make that timer (in the video)
[13:15:41] <archivist> I make time clocks
[13:15:57] <Jymmm> archivist: It's a "computer"
[13:17:22] <Jymmm> But I guess it's not much diffrent than the old mechanical adding machines.
[13:19:51] <Jymmm> I got your 555's right here buddy... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVOliDG4AAc
[14:00:36] <L84Supper> why is it ok to make a chair in the woods but not out of woods?
[14:01:56] <Jymmm> If that's a joke, Why? If it's not a joke, why not?
[14:58:06] <mrsun> cast iron against cast iron == good right? :)
[14:58:11] <mrsun> bearing surface
[15:02:56] <andypugh> I think it can be OK, but it isn't used all that often.
[15:03:28] <andypugh> There are a few places on our 1916 fire engine that use the combination, and that's lasted OK.
[15:04:04] <Jymmm> andypugh: for bearings?
[15:04:15] <andypugh> Slow-speed ones, yes.
[15:04:26] <Jymmm> define slow speed?
[15:04:33] <mrsun> andypugh, yeah but im meaning like ways on machines etc
[15:04:39] <mrsun> in this case a radius turning tool
[15:04:43] <mrsun> the swivel plate
[15:04:47] <mrsun> wont move alot at all :P
[15:04:51] <andypugh> Machine ways are almost always iron on iron.
[15:05:03] <mrsun> and ofc in true retard spirit i will scrape it all! :P
[15:05:10] <mrsun> and add oil groves :P
[15:05:40] <Jymmm> mrsun: GANGNAM STYLE!
[15:06:08] <mrsun> maybe have tapered joint surfaces, then i can get real good and stiff contact :P
[15:09:55] <andypugh> Bah! Macmaster decided I was a 'bot and locked me out for an hour. (Not that I can order from them anyway)
[15:10:13] <tjb1> Someone tell me why the cut isnt following the pink line? https://www.dropbox.com/s/dc7hl37nvtlacyi/messedupcut.jpg
[15:10:35] <jdh> searching too fast?
[15:10:50] <mrsun> i wonder what angle it is on the "dovetail" that olds the compound in place on the south bend lathes
[15:10:53] <mrsun> anyone know? :)
[15:12:25] <Loetmichel> *BAH* Silberdust-filled silicone rubber is REALLY bad to mill... and expensive like hell the material is... ;-) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14049
[15:12:46] * Loetmichel shoud make a punch for that soon...
[15:13:11] <mrsun> http://www.cams-club.org/meeting-history/2008-03-25/Tex_R's_Compound_with_Screw&Dial2.jpg looks like that
[15:13:34] <tjb1> No one uses solidworks? :(
[15:13:54] <jdh> I can't afford it.
[15:14:15] <cradek> tjb1: for commercial software you oughta call their support
[15:14:28] <tjb1> I'm in school
[15:14:45] <andypugh> jdh: Turning on Private Browsing foiled their evil cookie :-)
[15:14:54] <jdh> heh, that's lame.
[15:15:11] <jdh> nothign like client side security
[15:15:53] <andypugh> mrsun: Looks like 60 degrees.
[15:18:10] <tjb1> My lofted cut is not following the entire centerline....
[15:18:13] <mrsun> hmm ok =)
[15:38:17] <Jymmm> Anyone know anything about patents?
[15:40:19] <andypugh> Not a lot.
[15:40:56] <andypugh> I just found that the reason that I couldn't spot a difference beyween the 5V and the 12V DC-DC converters I got from China was that they were both 5V.
[15:41:34] <Jymmm> andypugh: If I show my idea to a patent attorney without a signed agreement in place, is it still considered to be privileged?
[15:41:36] <JT-Shop> yuck
[15:42:26] <andypugh> Jymmm: I am not sure, but I would rather expect a pro to "do the right thing"
[15:42:55] <JT-Shop> you would have to ask a lawer in your state Jymmm
[15:44:12] <Jymmm> andypugh: Well, that's ethics =)
[15:44:12] <andypugh> It was £1.58 including postage from China. I think I might spend the £6.80 for a UK-sourced one.
[15:44:12] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: This is across state lines Calif and Texas (as example)
[15:45:41] <JT-Shop> then you would need to seek counsul in both states
[15:45:41] <JT-Shop> or just don't show the PL the real thing LOL
[15:46:44] <Jymmm> The firm is in multiple states, the local office does technology and biomed IP, their out-of-state offices do the other IP related items.
[15:46:49] <Jymmm> The showing is for him to run a preliminary search at no charge.
[15:52:14] <JesusAlos> hi
[15:52:23] <Connor> were if, the AC is cut, it pops off and you have to press it again.
[15:53:02] <Jymmm> Now THAT you could use a safety relay for =)
[15:53:20] <Connor> Yea, a latching style one..
[15:53:52] <Jymmm> Connor: Uh, I don't think you understand "safety relays" too well.
[15:54:06] <Connor> probably not.
[15:54:07] <Connor> :)
[15:54:14] <Jymmm> safety relay != latching relay
[15:54:16] <andypugh> Connor: If you want inexpensive, then there are lots of arcade buttons on eBay. Not entirely industrial, but designed to be pretty tough. http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAPP-BUTTONS-BUTTON-MAME-HAPP-JAMMA-NINTENDO-ARCADE-MARVEL-BALLY-WILLIAMS-/261136768421?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cccf6dda5 for example, operate standard microwitches.
[15:54:23] <JesusAlos> http://imagebin.org/246623
[15:55:08] <JesusAlos> continued looking for a software like this
[15:55:08] <andypugh> JesusAlos: You found the right software then?
[15:55:17] <JesusAlos> no
[15:55:27] <JesusAlos> is the software of other manufacturer
[15:55:41] <andypugh> Ah
[15:55:50] <JesusAlos> I'm going crazy
[15:56:00] <Jymmm> short drive
[15:56:06] <JesusAlos> I have tried many
[15:56:19] <andypugh> JesusAlos: You could ask SheetCAM to add the function.
[15:57:04] <JesusAlos> no. I don't ask, but see a tutorials and don't seems he do
[15:57:14] <JesusAlos> I must ask...
[15:58:05] <andypugh> There is "chaining" http://forum.sheetcam.com/viewtopic.php?t=5190&sid=0657b3396d5fa73b2367b2981312b040
[15:58:19] <JesusAlos> the problem is that all softwares say run in 2 axis mode. but really run like 2-1/2 axis
[16:00:09] <andypugh> It sounds like setting Max Chain Length to longer than the work table ought to have something like the right effect.
[16:00:56] <frallzor> JesusAlos looking for software?
[16:01:05] <frallzor> as in CAM?
[16:01:25] <JesusAlos> yes CAM
[16:01:34] <frallzor> 2-3 axis?
[16:01:35] <archivist> almost looks like truetype tracer could be used
[16:01:46] <JesusAlos> 2 axis
[16:01:59] <frallzor> for what? I missed that
[16:02:11] <frallzor> the machine that is
[16:02:26] <JesusAlos> is for hot wire foam cutting machine
[16:02:40] <frallzor> oh then im shit of luck for giving advice =(
[16:02:49] <JesusAlos> no only cut text
[16:02:51] <Connor> andypugh: I'm looking for the more industrial ones.. like you see on operator panels etc.. I know they're a few online salvage companies that have things like that..
[16:03:01] <JesusAlos> can cut other geometry
[16:08:01] <JesusAlos> andypugh: not think my case
[16:10:10] <andypugh> You _could_ just use DXF to G-code and put the links in by hand. That doesn't sound like fun, though.
[16:13:08] <archivist> trutype tracer with a bit of C added to get the inter character paths right this may be usable http://www.archivist.info/erd/con2d.c.txt
[16:14:46] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:15:46] <andypugh> archivist: I suspect that getting an optimal path between all the part and not _through_ any parts is the tricky part. The software certainly needs to know inside and outside..
[16:16:33] <andypugh> It seems that it is possible to configure this DCDC convertor as an adjusatble thing. I guess I might as well, only £1.58 to lose.
[16:16:36] <archivist> well one has to cut through for o q R etc
[16:16:53] <andypugh> archivist: Aye, that too.
[16:18:03] <archivist> makes sense to just return out via an inward cut
[16:18:32] <archivist> then avoid anything till next chr
[16:23:36] <JesusAlos> do you think that with truetype and this C code do somthing like this?
[16:23:51] <JesusAlos> http://imagebin.org/246623
[16:25:16] <archivist> it will requires some coding to merge and make it all work
[17:08:22] <JesusAlos> please
[17:08:48] <JesusAlos> can seetcam select the end points?
[17:09:09] <JesusAlos> I see the start points selection
[17:09:14] <JesusAlos> but not the end
[17:11:12] <andypugh> JesusAlos: I am not sure, I haven't used it enough.
[17:56:55] <tjb1> http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/860539_10200259923716736_528498580_o.jpg
[18:39:11] <Valen> !seen andypugh
[18:39:11] <the_wench> last seen in 2013-02-13 23:29:16GMT 00:56:59 ago, saying Quit: andypugh
[18:39:17] <Valen> ahh man
[20:04:03] <AR_> http://i.imgur.com/m6zaW00.jpg
[20:04:05] <AR_> almost
[20:05:10] <ReadError> nice
[20:05:17] <ReadError> the taig spindle probably made things much easier
[20:05:55] <AR_> yes
[20:05:57] <AR_> definitely
[20:05:58] <AR_> lo
[20:05:59] <AR_> l
[20:08:10] <ReadError> how you going to attach the motors to the axis?
[20:08:13] <ReadError> tjb1, ;(
[20:08:20] <tjb1> ?
[20:08:30] <ReadError> got my parts
[20:08:33] <ReadError> but didnt know
[20:08:35] <AR_> i have some steel L-brackets that fit my motors
[20:08:39] <ReadError> extrusions are coming from the vendor ;/
[20:08:44] <tjb1> heh
[20:08:46] <AR_> X and Y is easy
[20:08:47] <ReadError> so im building up what i can
[20:08:51] <ReadError> so im kinda butthurt
[20:08:52] <AR_> not sure how i'm doing my Z motor yet
[20:09:20] <ReadError> you can make a thick aluminum motor mount
[20:09:24] <ReadError> and use some big standoffs
[20:10:00] <AR_> i would really like to put another pulley on the Z to belt drive it
[20:10:06] <AR_> because the Z screw is like 1 TPI
[20:10:11] <AR_> which kindof sucks
[20:10:24] <AR_> but not sure yet. It is really smooth
[20:10:28] <AR_> it might be ok
[20:13:13] <tjb1> JT-Shop: You here?
[20:17:19] <tjb1> jthornton: ?
[21:49:22] <tjtr33> if your M1xx files are python scripts... this can manipulate i/o 'subprocess.call("halcmd sets yoursignal yourvalue", shell=True)'
[21:49:23] <tjtr33> http://pastebin.com/k6vF39th
[21:49:27] <tjb1> Anyone know where I can buy a case for a 1" dial indicator?
[21:57:50] <jdh> for storage?
[21:58:47] <jdh> I leave mine on the bases and stick them on the back of my toolbox
[22:07:23] <AR_> that's fine
[22:07:51] <AR_> you'll get a case and never bother putting it away anyway
[22:08:23] <ReadError> i actually throw my cases out
[22:08:27] <ReadError> since i know i wont use em
[22:08:35] <ReadError> ;)
[22:08:36] <AR_> lol
[23:41:09] <tjtr33> will hostmot2 allow reading from 7i87 to a 5i20? (I seem to read it can give 8 channels of 12bit ADC at 10 kHz?)