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[00:29:33] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[01:51:39] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:35:50] <Jymmm> archivist: Do you do any kind of artistic brass "scrollwork" type carving/decoration?
[02:36:20] <archivist> as part of repair
[02:37:18] <Jymmm> Is it a lost art? Time consuming? Special order?
[02:37:29] <archivist> I engraved new to match the old
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=norfolk+dial
[02:37:36] <archivist> not a lost art
[02:38:09] <archivist> time consuming yes
[02:39:17] <archivist> some amount of hand skill required also need to be artistic
[02:39:47] <Jymmm> any decorative alternatives that could be "mass produced"?
[02:40:59] <archivist> stamping
[02:41:38] <Jymmm> This is thin walled tubing, I think it'll just crush it.
[02:41:57] <archivist> backing roll in the tube
[02:42:10] <Jymmm> Ah, ok.
[02:42:52] <Jymmm> I know where to get a stamp made too =)
[02:43:12] <archivist> some is done just by the rolling process before crop/folding to final item
[02:44:54] <Jymmm> I'll be getting the tubes pre-made/cut.
[02:51:00] <Jymmm> nice work btw
[02:52:06] <Jymmm> I've always wanted to do/learn scrollwork, but sadly it's far underappreciated
[03:30:48] <archivist_herron> that is called engraving, to me scrollwork is something blacksmiths do
[03:32:06] <Jymmm> and this?
http://www.gundigest.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Engraved_8.jpg
[03:32:38] <Jymmm> I think that's just fucking amazing
[03:33:33] <archivist_herron> some of that is filled with coloured wax
[03:34:03] <archivist_herron> see the numerals on the clock dial, they are filled with black hard wax
[03:34:13] <Jymmm> I have never know what it was filled with, just for contrast.
[03:34:32] <Jymmm> I thought it was some oxide/blueing process
[03:34:49] <archivist_herron> contrast/consistency
[03:35:37] <archivist_herron> engraving steel is a little harder
[03:36:04] <Jymmm> I do a lot of monochromatic stuff, so always focusing on ways to get better contrast. But never in metals
[03:36:51] <Jymmm> I tried engraving text on a piece of al plate once, it wasn't pretty at all
[03:37:25] <Jymmm> I think the al had oxided or something
[03:38:03] <Jymmm> the engraving tooling was brand new
[03:38:06] <archivist_herron> al does, it is also deliberate, anodising
[03:38:51] <Jymmm> Yeah, I just dont work with metal enough to know such a thing occures (at that time)
[03:39:20] <Jymmm> I just figured an engraving tool would cut right thru such things.
[03:41:15] <Jymmm> Heh, I STILL have NFC what/hw the "oxide" is/got there =)
[03:41:23] <Jymmm> s/hw/how/
[04:21:34] <archivist_herron> Jymmm, aluminium oxide= saphire = hard =
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium_oxide
[04:27:29] <Jymmm> "is an electrical insulator"... HAd I known, would have been a easy test for oxide
[04:28:55] <Jymmm> Is there a easy way to remove the oxide, less smelting it?
[04:29:48] <Jymmm> Melts at 2K C?! Eeeeesh
[04:30:00] <archivist_herron> it forms instantly/quickly on al, it is why it stays shiny
[04:31:09] <Jymmm> This plate was dull/powderish in appearance, I just didn't give it no never mind.
[04:33:33] <Jymmm> I *think* I want to get into (personal) gunsmithing/creation, if for nothing else to see if I can. It's legal for personal-use, just need to read the details.
[04:34:40] <Jymmm> I'm more concerned about it blowing my head off because I don't know have enough metallurgy knowledge.
[04:37:12] <archivist_herron> chose a safer occupation
[04:39:11] <p0g0> yeah, that's not for beginners.
[06:26:15] <frallzor> anyone can provide some nice "stepper testing" code
[06:26:32] <frallzor> continous circle with Z going in a sinus pattern etc etc or similar?
[06:46:41] <jthornton> there is a stepper testing example in the manual
[06:48:32] <frallzor> oh
[06:49:06] <frallzor> isnt that just Z axis going up and down
[06:49:20] <frallzor> and any axis going back and forth
[06:51:38] <frallzor> would like a 3D test
[06:51:44] <frallzor> something that uses all axis in a nice manner
[06:52:24] <frallzor> a circled sine-curve woule be awesome =)
[06:52:54] <frallzor> or a spiraled sine-curve
[06:53:36] <r00t4rd3d> its not that kinda test
[06:53:57] <frallzor> then its not the kinda test i want =P
[06:54:20] <frallzor> I know what its for, just want something to check all axis at the same time
[06:54:28] <frallzor> see if that causes issues
[06:55:46] <Valen> G0 x100y100z100 G0 x0y0z0
[06:55:49] <Valen> lather and repeat
[06:56:22] <frallzor> not really a challenging test
[06:56:25] <jthornton> so make it do what you want
[06:56:30] <Valen> hint, you can queue up the next one whilst the last one is running
[06:56:47] <Valen> it'll test the butt out of your power supplies and drivers
[06:56:48] <frallzor> jthornton cant see how I would make a sine-curved circle =)
[06:56:58] <Valen> what error are you testing for
[06:57:13] <archivist_herron> spiral.ngc
[06:57:25] <Valen> archivist_herron: you seem to have a growth
[06:57:44] <archivist_herron> at a customers site
[06:58:01] <frallzor> lost steps during 3D-machining, want to push the same known program over and over and see what happens now when ive changed values
[06:58:33] <Valen> a set of rapids is more likley to expose errors than smooth circles
[06:58:36] <jthornton> o100 repeat [1000000]
[06:58:47] <jthornton> yep
[06:58:58] <archivist_herron> real machining adds load and friction
[06:59:02] <jthornton> rapids with 180 degree direction changes
[06:59:15] <Valen> also rapids in the same direction
[06:59:16] <frallzor> didnt lose steps when doing rapids
[06:59:17] <archivist_herron> remember to allow some headway
[06:59:22] <frallzor> in the middle of final pass on a detail
[06:59:52] <frallzor> 1-2mm of wood and like 2mm stepover
[07:00:08] <frallzor> not really lots of friction and load there
[07:01:00] <frallzor> guest the best way is to simple sacrifice some material and run the same program agin
[07:01:05] <frallzor> *simply
[07:02:24] <Valen> could be our mill
[07:02:38] <Valen> with a 100kg head, rapids have way more load than cutting
[07:03:40] <frallzor> Ill just make as much difference I can and run it again when there is time, clean up, check wiring etc
[07:03:50] <frallzor> if all id good then, good for me =)
[07:03:52] <frallzor> *is
[07:21:35] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2e4_1360275078
[07:21:45] <r00t4rd3d> fuck that
[07:22:40] <r00t4rd3d> the first one is text book, after that, not so much.
[07:34:49] <r00t4rd3d> awesome:
http://i.imgur.com/z4fsUbm.jpg
[07:36:17] <jthornton> neat
[08:09:48] <tjtr33> r00t4rd3d, you know the guys behind the Death Race on Pike Peak? www.spookytoothcycles.com
[08:24:15] <jdh> anyone have a vesa mount drawing?
[08:33:35] <tjtr33> r00t4rd3d,
http://www.blacksheepbikes.com/ look for the zamer, its 36" tires make you feel like a kid again
[08:49:23] <FinboySlick> jdh:
http://www.space-pod.co.uk/VESA_monitor_standards.htm Something like that?
[08:54:33] <jdh> That will work. Thanks!
[09:40:10] <skunkworks> zultron, I ran the tools for 12 hours - peaked out at 32us. Running the latency-test right now. I have no clue what was different from the other day - smi and everthing was done the same..
[09:45:05] <Jymmm> archivist: Nah, where's the fun in that? ;)
[09:46:14] <Jymmm> archivist: If JT-Shop was ever to blow himself up, I'll know the limit line =)
[09:48:15] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Hey, in regards to ignition sources, were you looking for reusable or mainly remote/electrical?
[09:49:43] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: and at what voltage?
[09:54:56] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: for the cannon or the potato gun?
[09:55:09] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: doesn't matter
[09:55:51] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: whats the fuel in the spud gun?
[09:57:22] <JT-Shop> White Rain
[09:57:37] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: power source?
[09:57:53] <JT-Shop> piezo
[09:58:24] <Jymmm> Oh, then why did you even mention spud gun as you already have an ignition source?
[09:58:30] <JT-Shop> "do you stil have the bike for sale?" 302 area code LOL they never give up
[09:58:52] <JT-Shop> well that was the last ignition thing I was wanting to improve
[09:59:11] <Jymmm> Hit it harder =)
[10:00:00] <Jymmm> So, you found igniters for the cannon already?
[10:02:23] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Get a small stun gun and retro fit it. They usually just use a 9V battery so that would be easy to mount.
[10:02:50] <Jymmm> Nice 1-2" spark gap should work nicely
[10:03:49] <Jymmm> Could just parallel up a few 9V batteries for extended usage
[10:03:51] <JT-Shop> I looked at that
[10:06:34] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: How long of fuse do you use INSIDE the cannon?
[10:08:01] <JT-Shop> 1 12/16"
[10:08:34] <Jymmm> 1.75"
[10:08:52] <JT-Shop> or less
[10:09:21] <Jymmm> 30s safety fuse?
[10:09:30] <JT-Shop> don't remember
[10:09:41] <Jymmm> But safety fuse at least?
[10:10:12] <JT-Shop> no clue, it came in a rubber band
[10:10:19] <Jymmm> lol
[10:10:49] <Jymmm> I got a few different types (all safety fuse) to try out.
[10:11:20] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Did you find a solution for electrical ignition or no?
[10:11:27] <Jymmm> of the cannon
[10:11:42] <ormandj> is the g0704 still the go-to machine for price vs. performance tradeoff re: home/garage metal mill? looking to get a cnc mill up and running, have been reading on cnczone, but figured some direct feedback could be useful
[10:12:10] <JT-Shop> gave up for now, other things in the fire
[10:12:30] <JT-Shop> is that a Griz?
[10:13:09] <ormandj> yeah
[10:13:23] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Ah, I could make them, but I'm not sure how to ship them. Since I get my fuses via USPS Ground, it should be ok to mail them if packed properly.
[10:13:55] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: What voltage? 12/13.8VDC ?
[10:14:00] <JT-Shop> ormandj: there seems to be some talk on the forum about a G0704
[10:14:18] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: want an apple... I'm going to get me one
[10:14:41] <ormandj> JT-Shop: it was/is a very popular mill for cnc conversions, just curious if it was still the 'best' tradeoff or not
[10:14:51] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Honey Crisp Apple
[10:15:10] <JT-Shop> I can't help with that all my machines are industrial sized
[10:15:12] <ormandj> Jymmm: fuji are better :p
[10:15:27] <JT-Shop> let me see what we have in the apple bowl
[10:15:38] <Jymmm> ormandj: If you have no taste, then sure.
[10:15:39] <ormandj> JT-Shop: yeah, tons of info re: the big boys, the little garage-fitting wonders are a little more confusing :)
[10:16:01] <ormandj> Jymmm: !! fuji are the sweetest, crispist apples, and last longer than the rest
[10:16:12] <ormandj> sweeter/crisper than honeycrisps
[10:16:46] <Jymmm> Any sweeter and I might as well go for pure sugar instead.
[10:16:59] <ormandj> haha, that is true :)
[10:17:15] <Jymmm> It's not always sweetness, but they have a good flavor too.
[10:17:36] <skunkworks> ormandj, if you have the room - buy a older cnc with a dead control and convert it to linuxcnc
[10:17:57] <Jymmm> And a nice compliment to extra sharp white cheddar.
[10:19:01] <skunkworks> Then you don't have to deal with ball screws, oiling, coolant control, yahda yada yada yoda
[10:20:08] <JT-Shop> looks like the apple of the day is Jazz
[10:20:14] <Jymmm> Did you know.... You CAN perform a private party firearms sale without an FFL/paperwork as long as both parties are resident of the same state legally.
[10:20:31] <jdh> for long guns
[10:20:50] <Jymmm> ANY
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#private-record-keeping
[10:21:56] <jdh> rest is state specific.
[10:22:50] <jdh> I can sell a handgun to an individual with no ATF/FFL, but there are state requirements for the purchaser
[10:23:59] <Jymmm> jdh: Bah, phuk me... Commifornia
http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#14
[10:24:17] <jdh> heh, .ca.us and .ma.us regs are the worst.
[10:25:14] <Jymmm> jdh: Well since I can AMKE my own guns legally (ATF), now I wonder what the state regs are for that?
[10:25:17] <Jymmm> MAKE
[10:29:20] <jdh> in .ca.us, probably pretty restrictive.
[10:31:45] * JT-Shop wonders how you right click on a touch screen
[10:32:02] <Jymmm> double tap?
[10:32:15] <Jymmm> tap and hold?
[10:34:03] <FinboySlick> You use the fingers from your left hand! ;)
[10:34:54] <JT-Shop> I thought you use your little finger for right click
[10:35:52] <Jymmm> s/finger/toe/
[10:38:11] <jdh> wth Elo drivers, in windows, you can set it to long-press for right click, or have it bring up the right-click icon
[11:01:46] <ReadError> ormandj: G0704 seems like a nightmare
[11:01:52] <ReadError> talk to Connor
[11:09:29] <archivist> or a list of chinese machine users
[11:10:09] <archivist> start with an old industrial machine
[11:11:52] <DJ9DJ> re-namd
[12:07:11] <anonimas1> archivist: It repeats now
[12:07:12] <anonimas1> :)
[12:08:58] <anonimasu> after alot of scraping to make them paralell.
[12:10:19] <Connor> Someone say my name ?
[12:12:16] <jdh> my name
[12:12:47] <jdh> <ReadError> ormandj: G0704 seems like a nightmare
[12:12:52] <jdh> how so?
[12:16:03] <zultron> skunkworks, 32us isn't so great, but not 'pathological' at least. (That term is from the Xeno wiki.)
[12:17:30] <zultron> To recap what you've done: smictrl, sound & legacy USB off in BIOS, anything I'm forgetting?
[12:18:32] <JesusAlos> hi
[12:19:15] <Connor> ormandj: What specifically do you want to know with the G0704?
[12:19:57] <archivist> anonimasu, good :)
[12:34:43] <Connor> cmorley: Well.. I read/skimmed over all 83 pages of the gscreen thread last night.. wow. lots of stuff.
[12:37:23] <skunkworks> zultron, that is it...
[12:38:38] <ReadError> i have a feature request for the next release
[12:38:50] <ReadError> when you open the gcode, have the option to sort by date
[12:38:57] <ReadError> like the 'detailed' view
[12:39:37] <ReadError> Connor: im sure its worth the conversion
[12:39:41] <ReadError> just seems like a bunch of work
[12:42:48] <anonimasu> archivist: tho I'll add a setscrew to lock it once it's adjusted
[12:42:58] <anonimasu> and wipers, but atm I gotta make parts
[13:10:45] <skunkworks> zultron, i have been running linuxcnc's latency-test for about 4+ hours and latency is <30us
[13:10:56] <skunkworks> So - I don't know. I am a bit uneasy about it.
[13:11:15] <zultron> Understandable.
[13:11:48] <zultron> I'd say keep it going until you feel more confident. My guess is we forgot something before one of the tests.
[13:11:59] <skunkworks> maybe.
[13:12:05] <zultron> You didn't save a log of all your test runs, I guess.
[13:12:22] <skunkworks> I have the one from overnight if you want
[13:12:36] <zultron> I mean, a log of all your work at the command line.
[13:13:08] <skunkworks> no
[13:13:21] <zultron> It looks like I should write a script that will automatically gather information needed for a test & put into a file: dmesg, smictrl, xeno-regression-test, etc.
[13:13:46] <zultron> That'll take some of the guesswork out, hopefully.
[13:25:27] <skunkworks> zultron, if this stays stable - I will boot it up into one of the amd apu machines and do the testing. (see that can be figured out)
[13:25:38] <skunkworks> (unless that runs fine now too ;)
[13:26:06] <zultron> Ok, great!
[14:47:24] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d:
[14:47:35] <tjb1> http://mightytext.net/
[14:48:28] <cncjerry> yo valen???
[14:48:49] <cncjerry> cncjerry here
[14:49:09] <cncjerry> yesterday you guys were helping me shoot a no-boot on my machine.
[15:16:17] <cncjerry> I was able to get the shuttlex up and running by making a minor change to my hal file. everything is running.
[15:19:25] <cncjerry> question is why the keyboard lags on jog, not only on this system, but on my old system (the one that died)
[15:19:45] <cncjerry> so why is the jog not consistent on both of these systems?
[15:20:28] <cncjerry> I made a change to Axis so that ctr+arrow keys do an incremental jog, and that has nothing to do with it as I have commented those lines and it fails the same way.
[15:20:48] <cncjerry> the old version 2.3 didn't have this sticky jog problem.
[15:20:54] <cncjerry> it started with the later release.
[15:21:19] <ReadError> what is your latency like?
[15:21:32] <cncjerry> when I looked at it after upgrading several months ago, everyone on here thought it was my computer or usb keyboard. now that I changed computers, it should be a non-issue
[15:21:57] <cncjerry> the last time I looked at this problem everyone thought it was latency
[15:22:28] <ReadError> yea but what kinda numbers are you getting
[15:23:16] <cncjerry> I can go run it, but yesterday everyone thought they were fine when I posted them from the shuttle before installing it today.
[15:24:11] <cncjerry> both the old and new machines act exactly the same. jog is inconsistent. so if I tap the arrow, I will get a bunch of moves like .01" and then a .5" with the same type of key press
[15:25:03] <ReadError> what if you set it to jog .01"
[15:25:08] <ReadError> will it still do that?
[15:26:35] <cncjerry> if I use ctrl+key (as in the mod I made to axis) it will jog exactly that amount every time, it just isn't timed consistently
[15:27:06] <micges> cncjerry: try different keyb
[15:27:55] <micges> maybe some key repeating problem on which Axis continiuos jogging depends
[15:28:03] <cncjerry> so I will be holding ctrl and tapping the arrow and it will be sneaking up on an edge using a finder and then it will hang for a few milliseconds and then move. so what happens is you think it didn't register the .001 jog, hit it again, and it moves the .001 plus .001 again.
[15:28:26] <cncjerry> but it happens on two different computers.
[15:28:35] <cncjerry> wildly different computers
[15:28:46] <micges> ah
[15:28:47] <cncjerry> with different keyboards. so it is a bug in something
[15:29:00] <cncjerry> it all started when I went to the latest version.
[15:29:27] <cncjerry> at first w thuoght latency, then usb vs ps2 keyboard.
[15:29:36] <cncjerry> tried both on both computers.
[15:30:34] <cncjerry> so the upgrade was a nightmare to begin with, I did it as I was running 2.3 (which was great) and wanted some of the path control changes.
[15:30:51] <micges> same lcnc setup on both pc?
[15:30:58] <cncjerry> same machine
[15:31:24] <cncjerry> different parallel part cards, but everything post parallel port is the same.
[15:31:50] <micges> pastebin config dir
[15:32:08] <cncjerry> whats comfig dir do?
[15:32:14] <cncjerry> config
[15:38:04] <micges> check motion-controller.time at halscope while jogging, see of there are some heavy spikes
[15:41:52] <cncjerry> k
[15:42:53] <cncjerry> what I can't figure, and I am going back down to the shop to see, is why I would be the only person with this problem?
[15:43:25] <cncjerry> the machine I was running on was a 2.9ghz pretty powerful machine with 4gb memory, etc.
[15:44:44] <micges> most error are config dependant
[15:48:05] <cncjerry> the max jitter is 5000 and 15000 on the latency test on this machine.
[15:48:14] <cncjerry> where does that come into play in configuration?
[15:48:52] <cncjerry> this machine has high CPR quad encoders with a high ratio servo so it is like 40,000 CPS per inch.
[15:49:29] <cncjerry> I am using the same configuration on this computer as the other so it could be the problem.
[15:49:34] <cncjerry> what would I adjust?
[15:49:45] <micges> jitter is dependant on io amount
[15:50:25] <micges> you said it is parport setup?
[15:51:12] <cncjerry> yes parport with servo motors
[15:51:27] <cncjerry> also, this is the same config i used under 2.3 that worked.
[15:51:42] <cncjerry> so something changed from 2.3 to current release
[15:51:55] <cncjerry> also, where is halscope?
[15:52:09] <micges> menu machine->halscope
[15:53:52] <cncjerry> so with my jitter numbers being high (assumed) what would I change in the config? I can slow the machine down I guess. I think the max is set to 60ipm on this machine but I rarely use that speed, never under program control.
[15:54:20] <cncjerry> I have run it at 300 ipm but decide to just slow it down as the machine shook so bad.
[16:01:42] <cncjerry> I just tried some incremental moves using the function from Axis opposed to my axis mods. it does the same thing, where you press the key slowly it moves perfectly, if you press it fast, I get a bunch of moves that are fine then it pauses and catches up.
[16:09:51] <cncjerry> and motion control.time on halscope had spikes all over it.
[16:10:56] <micges> what values?
[16:12:44] <cncjerry> I didn't look at values but the average looked flat and the spikes where about 4 to 5 blocks higher on the scope.
[16:13:05] <cncjerry> should I just lower my max speed on this thing?
[16:13:24] <cncjerry> are there any other config parameters I should play with given the latency numbers?
[16:14:15] <jdh> you have high res quad encoders on p-port?
[16:14:34] <cncjerry> yes
[16:14:42] <jdh> how high?
[16:14:44] <cncjerry> they worked fine on version 2.3
[16:15:13] <cncjerry> they are 500cpr in quad, so they are 2000 per rev,
[16:15:25] <cncjerry> the motors are geared up about 5 to 1
[16:15:43] <cncjerry> maybe 4 to 1,
[16:16:05] <cncjerry> so that is 8k per rev with a 10 to 1 screw. or 80k
[16:16:17] <cncjerry> but that sounds high for some reason.
[16:16:26] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:16:38] <jdh> whole thing sounds high for a p-port
[16:16:40] <cncjerry> according to the wiki, the base period might be set to low in config
[16:17:00] <cncjerry> sounds high, but like I keep saying, it worked under 2.3 perfectly for like 6 yrs
[16:17:09] <jdh> same kernel?
[16:17:40] <cncjerry> no, when I upgraded to the latest I did a complete new install
[16:17:52] <cncjerry> so the new kernel is in there
[16:18:59] <cncjerry> I am trying to find out how the base_period is set by the step config wizard based on jitter.
[16:19:14] <cncjerry> this would limit my max speed I believe but that is fine.
[16:19:29] <cncjerry> I do get more rtapi errors on this release than the prior older release
[16:19:42] <jdh> isn't the goal to get none?
[16:19:49] <cncjerry> one
[16:20:02] <cncjerry> when you first start up you might get one.
[16:20:10] <skunkworks> cncjerry: that is bad..
[16:20:15] <skunkworks> You don't want any
[16:20:33] <cncjerry> after that, none and I get very few except when hitting the jog continuosly fast.
[16:20:45] <skunkworks> If you read the error - it says something to the effect - all following errors will be suppressed
[16:21:33] <cncjerry> so I am going to crank-up base_period and see what happens if anything.
[16:21:43] <jdh> what is it now?
[16:24:01] <ReadError> w00t
[16:24:10] <ReadError> got my motors/controller/psu
[16:24:31] <jdh> w00t indeed.
[16:25:03] <jdh> I got my Raspberry Pi mounted in the box, all incoming wires are socketed, works great, now I decide I need another input or two.
[16:32:12] <tjb1> Anyone use VXB bearings?
[16:33:35] <jdh> I have them on my G0704
[16:34:58] <tjb1> Good stuff?
[16:35:13] <tjb1> I need some pillow blocks…either VXB, the ones from adafruit or ebay special
[16:36:01] <cncjerry> I changed base period from 20,000 to 30,000 this gave me following errors on 60ipm rapids. so I lowered the max_velocity to 48ipm and it seems a little better.
[16:37:30] <cncjerry> so I dont know it this is the problem or not, as I said, version 2.3 ran perfectly with this config for years, at one point with the old machine, I had max_velocity up to 300ipm and it ran fine except the machine was taking a beating on vector changes.
[16:37:35] <cncjerry> so I don't get it.
[16:38:19] <cncjerry> I might reinstall the old release on another drive just to check it out.
[16:38:35] <micges> it seems that you have worse latencies on both pc
[16:39:01] <cncjerry> micges, I don't disagree, but why only on the new release?
[16:39:25] <cncjerry> It ran 5x faster on version 2.3 with no errors.
[16:39:59] <cncjerry> assuming I have a base_period problem
[16:41:17] <cncjerry> I wonder what else in terms of parameters effect the performance?
[16:56:35] <ReadError> hey tjb1
[16:56:42] <tjb1> hey ReadError
[16:56:44] <ReadError> can you repaste that mirroring configuration
[16:56:47] <ReadError> for the steppers
[16:58:12] <tjb1> http://pastebin.com/cQJRW3D7
[16:58:32] <ReadError> ty sir
[16:59:06] <tjb1> wait
[16:59:20] <tjb1> lol that one is wrong
[16:59:33] <tjb1> Thats a before edit one….
[16:59:57] <ReadError> yea i dont see where its using 2 outputs
[17:00:12] <tjb1> http://pastebin.com/Q4nsqDnQ
[17:01:32] <ReadError> ahh i see
[17:01:43] <ReadError> so basically i can just add:
[17:01:44] <ReadError> net xdir => parport.0.pin-09-out
[17:04:28] <tjb1> or if you picked the G540 it probably added all 4 axis
[17:04:43] <tjb1> You change A to X and invert it
[17:04:48] <tjb1> invert the direction
[17:08:10] <ReadError> ahhh i see
[17:08:13] <ReadError> forgot about that
[17:08:23] <ReadError> i can just change it in the menu on Pin 8 and Pin 9
[17:08:31] <ReadError> have not been through the setup in a minute..
[17:09:54] <tjb1> Can you put all fuctions on servo thread or should the non floating point be placed on the base thread?
[17:11:47] <ReadError> whats the benefit of the chargepump?
[17:11:50] <ReadError> i never used it..
[17:17:47] <JT-Shop> it keeps anything from moving until the software is in control... can be handy
[17:18:02] <tjb1> What did I miss?
[17:18:08] <tjb1> Chargepump?
[17:18:35] <ReadError> yea
[17:18:40] <ReadError> i never touched those trimpots either
[17:19:03] <tjb1> I cant get charge pump for the G540 to work on PCI cards so you need to use mobo port if you want to use that
[17:19:19] <ReadError> you got a PCI parport card?
[17:19:34] <ReadError> i need to get one
[17:20:02] <tjb1> yes
[17:20:08] <tjb1> Its a netmos card
[17:21:08] <tjb1> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SYBA-SYB-SY-PCI10002-I-O-Card-2Port-Parallel-Printer-PCI-Netmos-9865-Chip-/251058187500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a743becec
[17:21:27] <ReadError> works w/o any changes?
[17:21:27] <tjb1> wait its this one -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SYBA-SY-PCI10001-1-DB-25-Parallel-Printer-Port-PCI-Controller-Card-Netmos-9865-/271005645528?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f1931fad8
[17:21:34] <ReadError> no modprobing and stuff
[17:21:40] <tjb1> I dont even know what modprobing is
[17:23:02] <jdh> tbj1: they were just relatively inexpensive bearings. ACB's for the ball screws.
[17:23:32] <tjb1> I am going to get 8mm pillow blocks for 3d printer
[17:23:54] <tjb1> $16 for 4 from ebay, $40 for 4 from VXB
[17:24:15] <jdh> could be fine.
[17:24:36] <jdh> or, you could spend $56
[18:17:35] <tjb1> jdh: $56?
[18:21:30] <jdh> $16 for the ebay ones, find out they suck, $40 for the others
[18:22:57] <JT-Shop>
[18:25:19] <tjb1> $45 a piece at mcmaster
[18:25:32] <tjb1> could spend $220
[18:26:19] <r00t4rd3d> i have 4 8mm blocks
[18:27:35] <r00t4rd3d> they are about to come off my z axis too
[18:27:52] <tjb1> You trying to sell them?
[18:29:10] <r00t4rd3d> no I am going to use them for my 3d printer
[18:29:19] <tjb1> Where did you get yours?
[18:29:25] <r00t4rd3d> ebay
[18:30:11] <r00t4rd3d> $17.98
[18:30:11] <r00t4rd3d> + $1.81
[18:30:11] <r00t4rd3d> shipping
[18:30:45] <r00t4rd3d> what plans you using for your printer?
[18:31:30] <r00t4rd3d> and every part you make for it at school, make 2
[18:31:48] <tjb1> I havent made any at school yet
[18:31:56] <tjb1> My plans are picturse
[18:31:58] <tjb1> *pictures
[18:32:04] <r00t4rd3d> delta?
[18:32:24] <r00t4rd3d> i want a delta
[18:34:07] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SC8UU-CNC-Router-Linear-Ball-Bearing-8mm-XYZ-table-NEW-/281058631869?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41706660bd
[18:34:12] <r00t4rd3d> damn!
[18:35:00] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/SC8UU-8mm-CNC-Router-Linear-Bearing-Slide-unit-Truck-Linear-Motion-/190790837195?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6c0523cb
[18:35:04] <r00t4rd3d> usa seller
[18:35:52] <r00t4rd3d> prices have dropped on them alot
[18:35:54] <tjb1_> I bought lm8uu bearings off ebay from cali
[18:36:02] <tjb1_> they arent tooo smooth
[18:36:19] <tjb1_> Thats only $3 cheaper than vxb
[18:36:19] <r00t4rd3d> lemme see the pics of the one you are gonna do
[18:36:33] <tjb1_> 8.75 each...
[18:36:42] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/8mm-Square-Flanged-Bushing-Linear-Motion-/130572930450?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e66c0cd92
[18:37:54] <r00t4rd3d> another deal
[18:37:55] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIY-CNC-Parts-8MM-linear-bearings-supports-and-19-5-Rails-/281050501657?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item416fea5219
[18:39:10] <tjb1> http://www.flickr.com/photos/blddk/5710747262/sizes/o/in/set-72157626672561362/
[18:58:23] <cmorley> Connor: Yes there has been great interest in Gscreen. been lots of guys ideas added.
[18:58:35] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: What do you think of that
[20:11:46] <r00t4rd3d> dont like it
[20:12:10] <tjb1> Whats wrong with it
[20:12:55] <r00t4rd3d> old design
[20:13:03] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:17175
[20:13:15] <r00t4rd3d> thats a 3d printer
[20:14:04] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.flickr.com/photos/jcrocholl/tags/rostock
[20:14:19] <tjb1> So yeah, no help from you
[20:15:31] <Connor> cmorley1: Got my touch screen in. going to be playing with gscreen soon.
[20:16:31] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.eckertech.com/product_images/k/074/ecksbotFullAssembled_Black__36516_zoom.jpg
[20:16:35] <r00t4rd3d> fugly
[20:17:09] <r00t4rd3d> and a shit ton more parts then a rostock
[20:17:56] <tjb1> Who cares what it looks like
[20:18:07] <tjb1> Im not making a delta until they get a good extruder setup going
[20:18:50] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Reprap-Rostock-Delta-Robot-3D-Printer-250mm-L-bearing-arm-/221182009742?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item337f79a18e
[20:20:38] <r00t4rd3d> that one guy details his whole build
[20:20:50] <tjb1> Go for it then
[20:20:57] <r00t4rd3d> can i get 500?
[20:21:00] <tjb1> no
[20:21:05] <r00t4rd3d> well fu 2 then
[20:21:55] <r00t4rd3d> i through in the neighbors dog
[20:22:32] <tjb1> Thought you were selling these paradise boxes
[20:22:47] <r00t4rd3d> im not selling shit atm
[20:23:08] <r00t4rd3d> my machines apart and so is my cnc computer
[20:23:21] <ReadError> upgrading?
[20:23:24] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[20:23:34] <ReadError> what are you adding?
[20:24:10] <r00t4rd3d> took my small linear carriages off my x axis and put on extended ones, now gonna use the short ones for a new z axis
[20:24:34] <ReadError> so theres no wood left on it?
[20:24:47] <r00t4rd3d> then i am gonna cut a ninja star out of aluminum and through at tj's face
[20:24:51] <ReadError> i was wondering
[20:24:59] <ReadError> is it legal to buy those cncrouter plans
[20:25:01] <ReadError> and sell the parts?
[20:25:17] <ReadError> i should be able to cut some decent sized MDF boards and pre-harden them
[20:25:22] <r00t4rd3d> probably not
[20:26:06] <r00t4rd3d> just use microcarves design
[20:26:20] <tjb1> your router is so small just add an extruder to it
[20:26:36] <ReadError> opensores r00t4rd3d ?
[20:26:47] <r00t4rd3d> he posted the plans
[20:27:00] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc_router_table_machines/134221-microcarve_mv2_plans_files.html
[20:27:27] <tjb1> ugly
[20:27:30] <tjb1> UGLY r00t4rd3d
[20:27:44] <r00t4rd3d> it will match your 3d printer
[20:27:57] <tjb1> I have a 3d printer, do you?
[20:28:03] <tjb1> :)
[20:28:07] <r00t4rd3d> nope just an ink one
[20:28:18] <ReadError> i win, mine is LASER
[20:28:37] <tjb1> I have laser, ink and 3d
[20:28:39] <tjb1> boom
[20:28:45] <tjb1> snap, crackle, pop
[20:29:21] <r00t4rd3d> if i lived in my parents basement and sold crack, so would i
[20:29:33] <tjb1> http://www.eckertech.com/product_images/k/074/ecksbotFullAssembled_Black__36516_zoom.jpg
[20:29:38] <tjb1> motors or limits arent hooked up
[20:30:03] <tjb1> or thermistors
[20:30:21] <r00t4rd3d> i just posted that image
[20:30:50] <r00t4rd3d> are you hitting that stuff again?
[20:31:12] <tjb1> I was just informing you
[20:31:20] <r00t4rd3d> oh
[20:31:45] <tjb1> They are on the machine, they arent plugged into the controller
[20:31:54] <tjb1> I can make a rostock using my printer
[20:32:02] <tjb1> extrusion is dirt cheap
[20:32:06] <tjb1> I have all the motors
[20:32:12] <tjb1> I can print everything else
[20:32:15] <r00t4rd3d> thats another plus, the part plans are available
[20:32:59] <r00t4rd3d> i cant believe that one guy is the only one who can get an extruder working
[20:33:15] <r00t4rd3d> i thought you liked doing bass ackwards shit
[20:33:17] <tjb1> seemecnc has problems with theres
[20:33:22] <tjb1> theirs
[20:33:23] <tjb1> whatever
[20:33:27] <r00t4rd3d> AWWWWWWWWWWW!
[20:33:51] <r00t4rd3d> the nazi nazied
[20:34:22] <tjb1> rostocks have circular build areas
[20:34:24] <tjb1> and are huge
[20:34:49] <r00t4rd3d> you will have something to talk about with your mom
[20:35:25] <jdh> they can talk about you.
[20:35:36] <tjb1> Someone pissed in your cherios
[20:36:01] <r00t4rd3d> nah im just baked
[20:37:11] <r00t4rd3d> i just snowblowed 1' of snow out of my driveway
[20:37:23] <r00t4rd3d> still snowing like a fucker
[20:39:05] <tjb1> I use a skidsteer
[20:39:22] <tjb1> brains > brawn
[20:42:28] <ReadError> tjb1, that tracking site is pretty sweet
[20:42:31] <r00t4rd3d> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarebakery.drivedroid
[20:42:40] <tjb1> yeah
[20:42:47] <r00t4rd3d> check that out, you can host iso on your phone/tablet and run it on a pc
[20:43:26] <tjb1> http://mightytext.net/
[20:43:40] <r00t4rd3d> google voice
[20:44:15] <r00t4rd3d> i hate server/client apps like that
[20:45:57] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d, construction question
[20:46:04] <ReadError> if im cutting a long piece of wood
[20:46:12] <ReadError> in one of those saws that you pull down
[20:46:21] <ReadError> whats the best way to keep it level to the cutting surface ?
[20:46:24] <r00t4rd3d> chop saw
[20:46:25] <ReadError> some blocks or something?
[20:46:28] <ReadError> yea chop saw
[20:46:35] <r00t4rd3d> clamp, another set of hands
[20:46:55] <r00t4rd3d> sawhorse
[20:47:16] <ReadError> well i got it on the ground
[20:47:28] <r00t4rd3d> stack up pieces of 2x4
[20:47:39] <ReadError> i tried, but they are like uneven
[20:47:43] <ReadError> too tall or too short
[20:47:48] <ReadError> so im using some really thin ply
[20:47:50] <r00t4rd3d> stand them straight up
[20:47:57] <ReadError> just figured there might be a better way
[20:48:04] <r00t4rd3d> a cut table
[20:48:26] <r00t4rd3d> that has 2x6 ripped the same height as your saw
[20:48:50] <r00t4rd3d> 7' out one side
[20:49:32] <jdh> mine is 3 1/2" tall, I use a 4x4 block or a pair of 2x4s
[20:51:06] <r00t4rd3d> most saw you turn a 2x4 on end and its almost perfect
[20:51:16] <jdh> they fall over
[20:51:22] <jdh> so I use 2 flat
[20:51:23] <r00t4rd3d> screws
[20:51:40] <r00t4rd3d> http://aconcordcarpenter.com/wp-content/uploads/image-import/_0vuJZhliRZA/SueA3u-0vMI/AAAAAAAAFp8/SEQylYl3A0g/s1600-h/039.JPG
[20:51:47] <r00t4rd3d> thats another way but more work
[20:52:43] <jdh> look at all that space, taken up with wood and not metal equipment.
[20:53:08] <tjtr33> hal EDM , i gots to admit its getting better
http://videobin.org/+6cn/77x.html
[20:54:43] <ReadError> i watched django today
[20:54:47] <ReadError> it was pretty awesome
[20:55:56] <jdh> torrent?
[20:56:02] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[20:56:12] <r00t4rd3d> pirate
[20:57:10] <ReadError> ermm, theater, yea theater
[20:57:21] <Connor> okay, I've got a older install running 2.4 emc2.. need to get it up to 2.6 dev.. what's the best way ?
[20:57:38] <jdh> git?
[20:57:38] <Connor> I'll copy the configs.. I want it using the linuxcnc directory just like a fresh install.
[20:58:15] <Connor> how do I go about removing the OLD stuff ? (except for the configs)
[20:58:47] <jdh> sudo apt-get remove linuxcnc?
[20:58:57] <ReadError> i copy my linuxcnc directory to dropbox often
[20:59:06] <ReadError> so if this machine gets toasted, its still all there
[21:00:46] <jdh> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_EMC2
[21:00:58] <jdh> I'd go with 2.5 and run-in-place
[21:11:01] <Valen> there are repos floating about
[21:11:15] <Valen> if you want dev just add the dev repo and update
[21:26:57] <ReadError> yea im still running 2.5
[21:27:02] <ReadError> runs fine, scared to break it ;/
[21:27:26] <ReadError> just wish when you opened a file, it had an option for a detailed view
[21:27:40] <ReadError> since i have a bad habit of keeping all my gcode in 1 folder on my dropbox
[21:28:16] <Valen> hmm a preview image you say
[21:28:23] <Valen> that'd be interesting
[21:28:30] <ReadError> that would be cool
[21:28:34] <Valen> lol nautilus takes that damn long to do a jpg preview
[21:28:37] <ReadError> but i would settle for a way to sort by date
[21:29:19] <Valen> yeah its using its own toolkit for windows isn't it, not the platform ones so theres no nice box there for you
[21:58:45] <ReadError> still finding the mtime of a file isnt that hard
[21:58:52] <ReadError> would be a decent feature request
[22:15:08] <Connor> cmorley: You around ?
[22:39:17] <cmorley1> Connor: I am now
[22:39:43] <Connor> Cool. Got the gscreen up and working on my router with the 19" touch screen.
[22:40:03] <Connor> running the industrial custom mod.
[22:40:44] <Connor> had a question or two... how do you increment the feed override or just key in a value? having to press the + or - sign to run it up / down is taking forever.
[22:46:08] <r00t4rd3d> Connor Not Cutting
[22:46:19] <Connor_CNC> Huh ?
[22:48:41] <Valen> how much was the touch screen?
[22:49:32] <Connor_CNC> hehe. 125 + 40. But, it's in a Stainless steel bezel.. Industrial style.. and I got a 24 function keyboard with some funky tack pointer..
[22:49:38] <Connor_CNC> 40 for shipping.
[22:50:18] <Connor_CNC> http://www.ebay.com/itm/130843317449
[22:50:20] <jdh> when is it supposed to be there?
[22:50:23] <jdh> <urk>
[22:50:35] <Connor_CNC> Already have it. Showed up today.
[22:50:40] <Connor_CNC> using it right now.
[22:51:15] <jdh> <yeah, wrong channel>
[22:51:26] <Connor_CNC> Oh.
[22:51:28] <Connor_CNC> :)
[22:51:42] <jdh> http://jdh.getmyip.com:8081/
[22:51:56] <jdh> ^^ my Pi, installed and seems to be working.
[22:52:07] <Connor_CNC> Cool
[22:52:17] * r00t4rd3d exploits
[22:52:26] <jdh> https://picasaweb.google.com/112430417093824344570/Booster#slideshow/5842772731343440034
[22:52:50] <r00t4rd3d> thats gonna say my name in a minute
[22:53:01] <jdh> cool, lemme know when.
[22:53:04] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[22:55:10] <jdh> I had to make a bogus scale for one of my transducers to make it match the other two
[23:06:02] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/Di7CszA.jpg
