#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-02-06

[00:36:38] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/b2wWAxZ.jpg
[00:38:07] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[01:44:15] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cepg2DAkKQE
[02:18:02] <DJ9DJ> moin
[04:10:29] <Loetmichel> hmm... $me is desinging a PC case... anyone knows the exact distance from the edge of the atx plug aperture to the first pci(e) slot?
[04:10:58] <Loetmichel> ... cant find it anywhere in the specs
[04:22:00] <Loetmichel> hmm ... where do i get this silly distance? taking a measurement on an existing board/case is so not precise :-(
[04:24:57] <archivist> existing measurements are all I have had many times
[04:38:34] <CreativeMachines> hi
[04:39:44] <frallzor> yo
[04:40:46] <MattyMatt> hi frallzor, still running the mechmate?
[04:40:57] <frallzor> yup
[04:40:59] <CreativeMachines> so thanks for the room info MattyMatt
[04:41:16] <CreativeMachines> http://www.cnc-step.de/high-z-cnc-router-and-engraver-t-series/high-z-s-720-t - how else to get better for same money or the same, foe less money, based in the UK
[04:41:33] <MattyMatt> np. linuxemc is the only sensible choice for the cnc control software anyway
[04:41:41] <frallzor> still up and running, just updated the software and some functions in EMC so its a bit "not that outdated" =)
[04:42:57] <MattyMatt> I wish I had room for a mechmate. I got me a on old vertical mill base tho
[04:43:21] <frallzor> machine after purpose =)
[04:43:35] <MattyMatt> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/milling-machine-base-/261151455705
[04:43:55] <MattyMatt> ah most machines are flixible
[04:44:09] <MattyMatt> it's mostly a question of size
[04:44:48] <MattyMatt> I am trying to get away from woodwork tho, so a vertical mill is more my style atm
[04:45:09] <frallzor> I do 90% wood/plastic so this is my cup of tea =)
[04:45:55] <MattyMatt> show CreativeMachines some pics, of what a real flatbed router looks like :D
[04:46:20] <frallzor> wish I had more images than I do =P
[04:46:47] <MattyMatt> ah well, mechmate is easily googled
[04:46:56] <frallzor> http://imageshack.us/a/img267/6893/millcnc.jpg
[04:47:12] <frallzor> messy shop photo
[04:47:39] <MattyMatt> hmm, now I'm in this old familiar environment, I remember how much I like the Sable 2015 as a desktop mill
[04:49:38] <MattyMatt> http://www.cnc-sable.nl/sable-2015-p-21.html?language=en .nl supplier, overpriced
[04:49:54] <MattyMatt> but still half the price of that high-z
[04:50:09] <archivist> CreativeMachines, make whatever you need yourself
[04:50:39] <frallzor> build a MechMate!
[04:50:40] <frallzor> its fun
[04:50:41] <MattyMatt> he is time poor, and moderately cash rich
[04:51:14] <frallzor> pay someone to build it? =P
[04:51:29] <MattyMatt> and that sable does come with drivers and spindle, so isn't ridiculously overpriced compared with importing yourself
[04:51:46] <archivist> CreativeMachines, where in UK
[04:52:15] <CreativeMachines> Whitworth (north Manchester)
[04:52:21] <CreativeMachines> altho i work in Uxbridge, London
[04:52:37] <CreativeMachines> moderately cash rich - lol
[04:52:48] <archivist> in the middle here, Burton
[04:52:50] <CreativeMachines> brb#
[04:53:13] <MattyMatt> compared to "maybe-I-should-jack-this-in-and-go-on-the-dole" matty you are ;)
[04:53:37] <archivist> Dole is well paid
[04:53:41] <MattyMatt> like when I needed a machine, I got out the drawer slides and plywood
[04:53:59] <MattyMatt> I need to make some kids to get a decent dole
[04:54:48] <MattyMatt> I should register all my machines as children :)
[04:55:29] <MattyMatt> lotty the lathe needs new shoes
[04:58:44] <CreativeMachines> lol
[05:02:06] <MattyMatt> making a T-Slot bot does seem pretty simple tho. and T-slot is so cheap at KJN
[05:02:47] <MattyMatt> some reprap bots are getting stiff enough for light milling now
[05:05:14] <CreativeMachines> agreed
[05:06:47] <MattyMatt> if you made one out of 40x80 tslot, with supported rails and decent leadscrews, you'd end up with a sturdier one than that hi-z
[05:07:40] <MattyMatt> that hi-z uses unsipported round rails, and 22mm is nonstandard size so you're stuck with their bushings
[05:09:17] <MattyMatt> £16.45 a metre for 40x80
[05:09:54] <CreativeMachines> ye - ive built my CM1 printer out of 20x60 and its decent already
[05:10:05] <CreativeMachines> which leadscrews would you use?
[05:10:13] <CreativeMachines> my biggest issue is time
[05:10:33] <MattyMatt> ballscrews are best
[05:10:52] <frallzor> balls *giggles*
[05:11:15] <MattyMatt> probably worth it. I read once that acme is 30% efficient, ballscrews 80%
[05:12:44] <CreativeMachines> link to UK supplier? World of cnc or similar?
[05:12:59] <MattyMatt> how pressing an issue is time? can you wait for all the components to come from china?
[05:13:31] <MattyMatt> world of cnc = marchantdice? double the chinese price generally
[05:13:49] <frallzor> I dont like his quailty either
[05:13:57] <MattyMatt> but I think they do make a lot of it themselves, they don't just import
[05:14:05] <frallzor> bought a complete Z-axis there
[05:14:19] <frallzor> was a nice expensive POS =)
[05:14:32] <MattyMatt> good to know :p
[05:14:54] <CreativeMachines> well, its not a major rush but i d liek to be able to make some parts for my own design 3d printer
[05:14:56] <frallzor> but that was for my first build, after that I didt all on my own =P
[05:14:59] <CreativeMachines> but not urgent- just nice to have
[05:15:04] <CreativeMachines> ye, world of cnc not cheap
[05:15:07] <MattyMatt> the prices put me off, when it's my money, but if I didn't know better I'd spend other peoples money there :)
[05:15:15] <CreativeMachines> but i use it for referencing parts and estimated costs for some stuff
[05:16:24] <MattyMatt> you get nice bundles of slides + ballscrews on ebay
[05:16:41] <MattyMatt> pick your bundle, and size the bot around them
[05:17:50] <MattyMatt> but then when you start looking on ebay, you get widlcards like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ball-screw-linear-table-cnc-ground-anti-backlash-new-500mm-long-/221184604069
[05:18:24] <MattyMatt> for £31 (ignoring the 11 bidders) that'd be a good axis ready made
[05:22:45] <CreativeMachines> so i take it the slides are for X and Y, what about Z?
[05:22:52] <CreativeMachines> do you use similar or different appraoch?
[05:23:08] <CreativeMachines> what size nema typically? 23 or larger/
[05:23:13] <CreativeMachines> and what controller recommended?
[05:25:45] <MattyMatt> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/linear-rail-SBR-sets-ballscrew-sets-BK-BF12-coupler-/250447819886 3 axis bundle
[05:26:16] <MattyMatt> only 12mm, but it's supported
[05:26:45] <MattyMatt> yeah I'd go nema23, and geckos if you don't want to cheap out
[05:27:24] <MattyMatt> the gecko 4 axis is ~$250
[05:27:47] <archivist> my drivers and stepper were from arc euro trade
[05:28:01] <MattyMatt> you could run it off a printer port, but $100 will get you a mesa anything i/o card
[05:28:45] <MattyMatt> zapp automation seem to be the best value of the big 3 british places
[05:31:17] <MattyMatt> the thing about those tslot bots is you can buy just about all the bits you need off the shelf
[05:31:50] <MattyMatt> and assembling one is no worse than a flat pack wardrobe afaics
[05:33:09] <archivist> some struggle with flat packs!
[05:33:56] <MattyMatt> wardrobe users are different from cnc users :)
[05:34:13] <CreativeMachines> lol
[05:34:29] <archivist> you sure? seems some dumb questions :)
[05:34:35] <archivist> seen
[05:34:36] <MattyMatt> I contend that if you can use one, you can assemble one comfortably
[05:34:39] <CreativeMachines> MattyMatt: just sending you a PM
[07:11:37] * frallzor is eating red grapes
[09:31:17] <r00t4rd3d> http://kregjig.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1nn8q4b828opd
[09:31:44] <r00t4rd3d> i like that wood table
[10:26:12] <DJ9DJ> re
[10:51:02] <r00t4rd3d> tard
[10:51:25] <archivist> is
[11:19:30] * frallzor looks at jthornton
[12:59:05] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: ~~~ FOOD - Peppers Stuffed with Quinoa, Spinach and Feta Cheese http://recipes.sparkpeople.com/recipe-detail.asp?recipe=469434
[13:18:58] * anonimas1 has tailstock alignment issues
[13:19:10] <anonimas1> my tailstock goes ~ when I move it along the bed of my lathe
[13:19:15] <anonimas1> despite everything being straight.
[13:20:14] <anonimas1> if I turn a bar it's 0.000mm off out to wherever whip starts to affect it, so I know the carriage is straight.
[13:20:36] <anonimas1> I indicated the tailstock V and guideway with that as reference, it's straight
[13:20:46] <anonimas1> (no discernable twist)
[13:21:15] <anonimas1> however when I move the tailstock and clamp it down I get 0.10mm of difference when I move it along the bed
[13:21:18] <anonimas1> anyone got a clue?
[13:22:05] <archivist> have you leveled the bed properly
[13:22:56] <anonimas1> yes
[13:23:18] <anonimas1> way closer then 0.01mm/meter
[13:23:40] <anonimas1> 1.8 meters and I have about a hair movement on the level
[13:24:33] <anonimas1> I'd have taper when cutting if it werent
[13:25:40] <anonimas1> last resort is pulling the tailstock off and cleaning the ways and the underside
[13:25:55] <anonimas1> as far as I see
[13:26:49] <archivist> have you turned both ends of a bar to same crossslide setting to set the tail central
[13:27:18] <archivist> or used a parallel bar and dti
[13:27:46] <anonimas1> I bought a ground bar, center drilled it and set it up between tailstock and spindle
[13:28:02] <anonimas1> I can do that and it works,
[13:28:50] <anonimas1> but as soon as i release the tailstock it dosent go straight without tweaking the setscrews to adjust it in the x direction
[13:30:15] <archivist> also are you expecting a greater accuracy than you should (wear, age and what can be achieved)
[13:30:43] <anonimas1> I expect to be in the same city.
[13:30:44] <anonimas1> :D
[13:31:34] <archivist> .1mm is close for some lathes
[13:32:13] <anonimas1> well, I turn stuff better then +/- 0.002 without a problem
[13:32:17] <frallzor> machine big enough things so that .1mm is nothing!
[13:32:30] <archivist> dti in the spindle and run around the tailstock nose/center
[13:33:14] <anonimas1> I can turn stuff as good as the feedback that sits on the machine allows, that should give a indication of wear
[13:33:35] <archivist> turning accuracy has nothing to do with tailstock set over or axis in line with bed or inline with spindle
[13:33:53] <anonimas1> yeah, but i would see taper if the machine was worn..
[13:34:22] <archivist> depends on length turned and accuracy of measurement
[13:35:07] <anonimas1> I made some shafts and they were +/- 0.001 over a length of 400, when I got the tailstock dialed in
[13:36:12] <anonimas1> tho as soon as i move it it's a mess all over
[13:36:17] <archivist> and when you move the tailstock you need to re adjust?
[13:36:20] <anonimas1> yeah
[13:36:47] <anonimas1> im thinking crap stuck under the locking mechanism so it wont let it seat properly
[13:36:56] <archivist> look for wear and twist
[13:37:06] <anonimas1> no discernable
[13:37:24] <archivist> the locking is under and should never effect position
[13:38:22] <anonimas1> or under the carriage of the tailstock
[13:38:25] <archivist> my southbend is the same, I know it is worn
[13:38:57] <anonimas1> I am sure that is not the issue here
[13:39:30] <archivist> do you have access to an autocollimator
[13:39:33] <anonimas1> no
[13:40:24] <archivist> use a cheap laser pointer and a mirror mounted on the tailstock
[13:41:06] <anonimas1> I think tomorrow is a day for taking it all apart and cleaning and checking mating surfaces
[13:41:49] <archivist> another check, put level on tailstock and slide it up and down
[13:42:12] <anonimas1> im much more happy using the cnc even for one off stuff then the normal lathe, because I can simply barfeed.. if it's 1-2 pieces
[13:42:25] <anonimas1> and I dont have to chase 0.01mm/s..
[13:42:53] <anonimas1> I tried indicating the tailstock, it's straight
[13:43:19] <anonimas1> (against the section of the bed I know is straight ofcourse
[13:44:06] <anonimas1> bushings and stuff/bearings whatever they use has no slop at all either
[13:45:15] <archivist> nooo , spindle to nose and rotate the spindle, Schlesinger fig 19 testing alignment of axes by swing over method
[13:45:54] <anonimas1> spindle to x axis is square, and spindle to z axis too
[13:46:10] <anonimas1> no twist measurable either if I indicate from the spindle to the slide
[13:46:53] <anonimas1> (looked at machine tool restoration to see what to check)
[13:47:18] <archivist> spindle to tailstock, this tests they are inline which is your current problem
[13:51:44] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/cnc/schlesinger/fig0019.jpg
[13:52:33] <anonimas1> I did that, it works for one spot on the bed, when I release the tailstock it dosent repeat
[13:56:23] <anonimas1> note, I dont need to move it just unclamp it for this to happen
[13:56:25] <archivist> does your bed have upturned v
[13:56:35] <anonimas1> yes
[13:56:57] <anonimas1> I measured them too, they are not worn
[13:58:40] <archivist> check v of tailstock , dirt or wear
[13:59:55] <anonimas1> hopefully dirt :)
[13:59:56] <archivist> schlesinger limit is .02mm for between centres
[14:00:07] <archivist> any spacing
[14:00:50] * anonimas1 nods
[14:01:09] <archivist> I wonder if this book will ever be republished
[14:01:11] <anonimas1> I felt a bit of dirt under the slides,and it's possibly there's old oil stuck under the tailstock..
[14:01:25] <anonimas1> machine tool reconditioning if good also, for that
[14:01:49] <archivist> the 1950s book, I have that too :)
[14:02:09] <frallzor> I keep going out in the garage just to play with the auto touch-off
[14:02:12] <anonimas1> I were going to learn how to scrape..
[14:02:13] <frallzor> Im in love with it! =P
[14:02:22] <anonimas1> tho, I have to first get a very very good surface plate.
[14:02:50] <anonimas1> like a grade 0 one :D
[14:05:07] <anonimas1> if you are going to scrape gauges, why make them not accurate as a start.
[14:07:00] <archivist> I think schlesinger has been replaced by http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_tc_browse.htm?commid=48354&published=on&includesc=true
[14:08:43] <archivist> over priced
[15:13:42] <seb_kuzminsky> this looks like a good task light for a milling machine (or other work area): http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/688146/Realspace-LED-Urban-Clip-On-Task/
[15:13:52] <seb_kuzminsky> AC powered LED light on a goose neck
[15:14:01] <seb_kuzminsky> the mounting "clip" might need to be replaced, but i'm ok with that
[15:17:51] <JT-Shop> what did I miss
[15:19:01] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, gettin any rain?
[15:21:51] <JT-Shop> sunshine and warm, just came back from a hike in the woods with the dog
[15:22:37] <seb_kuzminsky> that sounds nice :-)
[15:22:57] <JT-Shop> yes it is not typical for this time of year
[15:22:57] <frallzor> JT-Shop you missed me!
[15:23:00] <frallzor> as allways
[15:41:24] <frallzor> I was bored so I filmed my touch-off sequence =P
[15:51:44] <r00t4rd3d> not sure i wanna see that
[15:52:47] <frallzor> http://youtu.be/jhVbQpM_so8 decide yourself =P
[16:17:46] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:29:16] <r00t4rd3d> did you make that ?
[16:30:36] <frallzor> me?
[16:36:16] <runvar> anyone know of stepper motor controllers for Nema 8 stepper motors?
[16:38:32] <seb_kuzminsky> any stepper drives that can provide the required voltage and current should work
[16:45:06] <gene77> Hey all, the old farts back
[16:47:31] <gene77> I have the lathe back together with that 16x5mm ball screw in the Z now. 20+ thou of backlash is now about 3.2 thou, 7x10 are made out of rubber, but now its a 7x11.3
[16:50:16] <gene77> No covering on it yet, the nut has builtin wipers. I need to go find a left angled grease gun nozzle, it points mostly down with about 2.5" to the chip pan. Fun.
[16:52:40] <runvar> seb_kuzminsky - thanks
[16:57:00] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/8k7IAEj.jpg
[16:57:18] <Tecan> hmmm
[16:57:24] <Tecan> how long it take to set ?
[16:58:01] <r00t4rd3d> i just seen the pic
[16:58:12] <r00t4rd3d> and shared
[16:58:40] <Tecan> invisions hillbillys using it for window repair
[17:00:24] <gene77> Hey, I may be a hillbilly, but I can afford window glass!
[17:00:31] <gene77> ;-)
[17:11:12] <roycroft> duct taping that shiny clear thing you found in your neighbor's ditch to that hole in the wall that you made with your shotgun doesn't count as a window
[17:12:05] * roycroft hopes he conveyed the stereotype at least reasonably accurately
[17:31:19] <JT-Shop> Woot! the hydraulic cylinder is on the way
[17:36:22] <jsr> Many years ago, I had a DRO running using the HAL language. I never understood why I typed some of the "magic" instructions in to get it to run.
[17:37:29] <jsr> Such instructions as "./scripts/emc-environment". Now I want to resurrect that DRO, and can't get at least this instruction to run.
[17:38:19] <JT-Shop> . ./scrips/rip-environment
[17:38:34] <JT-Shop> scripts
[17:40:01] <jsr> Thank, JT. What directory should I be in when I execute this?
[17:40:31] <jsr> "Thanks"
[17:40:58] <JT-Shop> the directory you have the RIP copied to
[17:41:19] <JT-Shop> if you have recent git checkout that is
[17:42:25] <jsr> Just did the git last night because I remember something about requiring EMC-dev.
[17:42:47] <JT-Shop> ok
[17:43:22] <JT-Shop> do you have a hal script or something to run your dro?
[17:43:54] <jsr> Yes, I have a HAL file and a .XML file
[17:44:47] <JT-Shop> pastebin the hal file if you don't mind
[17:45:01] <jsr> Sure
[17:48:52] <jsr> HAL file for DRO
[17:50:12] <jsr> Didn't Pastebin used to give you some sort of code for your files?
[17:50:50] <JT-Shop> gives you a link
[17:51:04] <JT-Shop> pastebin.com
[17:51:17] <JT-Shop> pastebin.ca no longer works
[17:51:23] <jsr> http://pastebin.com/MrbgZpnA
[17:51:56] <JT-Shop> have you seen my tutorials on LinuxCNC stuff
[17:52:11] <jsr> I don't think I have
[17:52:29] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/index.html
[17:52:53] <jsr> Thanks, I'll give that a look over.
[17:53:02] <JT-Shop> oh this is old stuff for sure
[17:53:58] <jsr> breaking for dinner
[17:54:03] <JT-Shop> k
[17:54:42] <JT-Shop> looks pretty basic for the most part
[17:56:25] <skunkworks> actually - pastebin.ca seems to be back up
[17:56:49] <JT-Shop> cool
[17:57:21] <skunkworks> http://pastebin.ca/2311258
[18:24:48] <JT-Shop> someone with an extra trammel email me one
[18:36:14] <r00t4rd3d> http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/topic,146315.0.html
[18:42:19] <Thetawaves> i like those diagrams
[19:12:04] <jsr> JT-Shop : so I go into terminal, navigate to jsr/emc2/configs/DRO (where the .hal and .XML files are, type . ./scripts/rip-environment, and I get no such file or directory.
[19:14:11] <jsr> even if I go to jsr/emc2-dev/scripts and type rip-environment, I get no such file or directory.
[19:16:33] <jsr> actually, it's command not found in the last instance
[19:18:16] <skunkworks> you need to be in the directory that linuxcnc was installes
[19:18:58] <skunkworks> like /home/username/linuxcnc
[19:19:29] <skunkworks> like /home/username/linuxcnc
[19:19:36] <skunkworks> heh
[19:19:57] <skunkworks> where ever you installed the rip
[19:20:30] <jsr> like jsr/emc2-dev?
[19:20:41] <skunkworks> exactly
[19:22:01] <jsr> I've never seen the structure of ". ./" before. what exactly is that doing for me?
[19:25:37] <jdh> ./ is your current path, . means to source the file listed, so . ./foo means to source the items in the file foo
[19:29:44] <jsr> so " to source" in this case means to execute each instruction in the foo file?
[19:30:31] <jdh> yes, it's just like typing them at the command line
[19:30:47] <jdh> 'help source'
[19:31:14] <jdh> they are executed in teh current shell context instead of in a subshell
[19:31:27] <jsr> OK, thanks.
[19:32:06] <jdh> certainly.
[19:32:29] <jdh> now, tell me how to get a raspberry pi to run a gui python app automatically when X starts.
[19:46:05] <WalterN> rebuild the engine in my old car or build CNC engraving machine?
[19:46:14] <jdh> cnc
[19:46:33] <WalterN> (both will eventually happen... just which order)
[19:46:33] <jdh> might try asking in #OldCars for a different perspective
[19:46:35] <ReadError> all my parts are ordered :)
[19:47:50] <WalterN> the thing is
[19:48:16] <WalterN> the CNC machine in parts (last I looked a few years ago) would cost something like $8,000
[19:56:05] <ReadError> halp
[19:56:07] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d
[19:56:16] <ReadError> where where those tslotter router things
[19:56:21] <ReadError> derp
[19:56:22] <ReadError> where are*
[19:56:50] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/bt_keyhl.html
[19:56:56] <r00t4rd3d> bottom, #6334
[19:57:36] <ReadError> 1" ??
[19:57:46] <r00t4rd3d> bottom, #6334
[19:58:18] <r00t4rd3d> the 1" has a 1/2 shank
[19:59:36] <ReadError> thats a pretty fat tslow
[19:59:39] <ReadError> tslot
[19:59:41] <ReadError> stupid fingers
[20:14:47] <r00t4rd3d> you buy one?
[20:14:53] <ReadError> yea i got both
[20:15:32] <r00t4rd3d> havent used mine yet but it seems to be nice quality
[20:16:19] <ReadError> figure ill cut it # style
[20:16:24] <ReadError> some cuts going both ways
[20:16:50] <r00t4rd3d> yeah thats a good idea
[20:17:02] <r00t4rd3d> Im gonna do my spoil board here soon
[20:17:14] <ReadError> do you just use a screw to hold stuff down now?
[20:18:05] <r00t4rd3d> quick clamps and these
[20:18:06] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:776
[20:18:54] <r00t4rd3d> they have different knobs on thingiverse too
[20:19:32] <ReadError> lol why would you make a foam guitar
[20:21:01] <r00t4rd3d> probably a test cut
[20:59:09] <Connor> anyone know about attaching a MPG to a 7i77 without using up one of the encoders? Looking at tne pncconf.. I'm not seeing it.. the 7i76 has such a input...
[21:01:27] <Connor> Well.. I thought it did...
[21:22:42] <r00t4rd3d> i doubt any of the mesa nerds are still awake
[21:23:37] <ReadError> i need to get another PCI parport card
[21:23:43] <ReadError> something that works w/o any messing around
[21:28:18] <r00t4rd3d> http://imgur.com/a/LONu4#0
[21:29:56] <r00t4rd3d> i hate gootball but that is cool
[21:30:01] <r00t4rd3d> foot
[21:39:37] <ReadError> yea thats pretty cool
[21:43:43] <r00t4rd3d> http://kregjig.ning.com/photo/photo/listForContributor?screenName=1nn8q4b828opd
[21:43:50] <r00t4rd3d> i want to make that
[21:44:32] <r00t4rd3d> i like the 2x4 table construction
[21:44:51] <pcw_home> Connor: the 7I77 also has the MPG input option (2 MPGs max)
[21:48:15] <ssi> pcw: hey is the 7I80 new?
[21:48:17] <ssi> and is it as awesome as it sounds?!
[21:49:32] * ReadError wants ALLLLL the toys
[21:49:53] <ssi> ME TOO
[21:51:26] <ReadError> i hope UPS doesnt screw me
[21:51:35] <ReadError> wednesday would be perfect for my stuff to show up
[21:52:49] <ReadError> the other week i ordered some stuff from mcmaster
[21:52:56] <ReadError> was supposed to show up friday
[21:53:14] <ReadError> due to "emergency" conditions they didnt deliver that day
[21:53:31] <ReadError> USPS came, but no presents from them ;(
[21:58:00] <ssi> :/
[21:58:11] <ssi> I was expecting servos today, but alas they didn't show
[21:58:16] <ssi> https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction.action?tLabels=9405511201080862775171
[21:58:19] <ssi> :(
[21:58:30] <ssi> prolly lost in the damn mail :(
[21:58:37] <ssi> that's the kind of day i've been having
[21:58:40] <ReadError> atleast you will get them before the weekend
[21:58:50] <ssi> city code enforcement trying to cite me for my forklift this morning
[21:58:58] <ssi> cat knocked my ipad off my desk and broke the screen
[21:59:01] <ssi> servos lost in the mail
[21:59:02] <ssi> fuck today
[21:59:09] <ReadError> damn
[21:59:15] <ReadError> yea worse than mine by far ;(
[22:15:54] <r00t4rd3d> crabs?
[22:26:37] <ssi> not yet
[22:32:20] <ReadError> the night is young
[22:32:38] <ReadError> and its friday \o/
[22:44:57] <ssi> it's not even close to friday :'(
[22:45:44] <jdh> it will be thursday here in half an hour. That's almost friday
[22:45:47] <ReadError> well for me it is
[22:45:53] <ReadError> i work sun->wed
[22:53:23] <ssi> cram you with your 3 day weekend!
[22:54:32] <ssi> any of you smart folks have experience with hexapod kinematics?
[22:54:58] <ssi> and I mean hexapod in the walking robot sense, not the stewart platform sense :)
[22:55:32] <Connor> pcw_home: Not seeing those in the pncconf... where would those be? or is my xml files out dated?
[22:56:14] <Connor> jdh: *poke*
[22:58:50] <jdh> ouch
[22:59:02] <Connor> pvt msg window...
[23:04:11] <r00t4rd3d> Hmm I just had a cop email me about engraving some gun stocks
[23:05:56] <ssi> don't let him randy weaver your ass!
[23:06:00] <ssi> :D
[23:16:43] <pcw_home> Connor probably too new for pncconf, you will have to set it up directly in hal
[23:17:05] <Connor> okay. any samples on it?
[23:17:25] <jdh> what's the difference between an MPG and an encoder for the card?
[23:17:54] <Connor> the MPG can be lower bandwidth most likly..
[23:18:05] <Connor> I think it's handled by the serial side of the card ??
[23:24:32] <pcw_home> Yes its a quadrature counter on the DIO part of the 7I77 (2 wires only, no index and defaults to 1x mode) good for maybe 20KHz
[23:25:23] <Connor> which pins does it tie to on both the 7i76 and 7i77 ?
[23:26:03] <pcw_home> I think its IN16,17,18,19
[23:26:15] <pcw_home> its in the manual
[23:27:20] <Connor> What is BLDC control ?
[23:27:43] <jdh> brushless dc
[23:28:00] <Connor> AH. Duh..
[23:56:59] <Connor> BTW Guys, the D525 Atom board... is GONE.
[23:58:17] <Valen> hrm?
[23:59:27] <Connor> Intel is no longer making Mobo's ??