#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-02-05

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[01:14:31] <skullworks> once upon a time I mentioned I would need to move my webhosting, and someone piped up that they were with Dreamhost - and would like credit for a referral. My graymatter isn't good enough to remember who that was. But I need to get a new host lined up by the 15th.
[01:46:10] <Jymmm> skullworks: swpadnos
[01:52:09] <skullworks> thx
[02:15:08] <DJ9DJ> moin
[03:02:13] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[03:02:40] <frallzor> sup
[03:07:53] <Loetmichel> hmm... what means sup anyway?
[03:08:07] <frallzor> whats up =)
[03:08:32] <frallzor> but in a coooool way
[03:13:11] <Loetmichel> [110dBa] *HATSCHIEH* [/110dBa] ... *snief* i think the colleague has infected me, OR here is to much dust in the air at the company...
[03:26:35] <Mr_Wolfs> Hi
[03:32:24] <Mr_Wolfs> If I want differenciate the max-velocity between axis_0 and axis_2 in teleop I must to put in the .ini [JOINT_2] MAX_VELOCITY= ... ?
[04:41:50] <frallzor> hmmm net touch-z-button halui.mdi-command-00 <= pyvcp.buttonname
[04:42:23] <frallzor> I want the routine to be enabled by a physical button, but doesnt this create a "virtual button"?
[04:42:50] <frallzor> or can I simply change the pyvcp.buttonname to a input.mybutton ?
[05:06:43] <mrsun> i guess the buttonname he said was to be replaced with your button name yes :P
[05:19:48] <frallzor> but pyvcp = virtual buttons = button in the interface on screen?
[05:21:42] <frallzor> so the question is if one cna remove that line completely and put in a input.blablabutton
[05:22:38] <mrsun> dont know :P
[05:23:01] <mrsun> never used pyvcp =) been happy with what i got so far :P
[05:23:35] <frallzor> but I dont want to use pyvcp if its not some kind of workaround to bind a hardware button to the virtual one =P
[05:24:06] <mrsun> you want to interface an actual real input to doing touchofs ?
[05:24:35] <mrsun> then i guess you will just bind the actual input insted of an "software" button yes
[05:24:42] <mrsun> parport.0.14 or something
[05:24:54] <frallzor> well not that physical
[05:25:00] <frallzor> from a gamepad =)
[05:25:25] <frallzor> so its input.0.thumbtr or something =)
[05:25:53] <frallzor> oh well, ill just do trial, whine and eror
[05:26:24] <frallzor> (sometimes things work too, but not too often!)
[05:26:41] <mrsun> :P
[05:27:07] <mrsun> if you know what the inputs are named from the gamepad i guess that is replaceable with the "pyvcp.buttonname" so =)
[05:27:14] <frallzor> its pretty fun to tinker, when I understand more and more of this
[05:27:48] <mrsun> then when you got it all working you forget everything, harddrive crashes and your at square 0 ;P
[05:28:11] <frallzor> never, I do backups =)
[05:28:30] <mrsun> :P
[05:28:39] <mrsun> ok then you look at it in a year and thikn "wtf" :p
[05:28:44] <mrsun> "how did this work" :)
[05:34:53] <Loetmichel> mrsun: *shiver* You're
[05:35:22] <mrsun> yeye
[05:35:23] <mrsun> :P
[05:35:26] <mrsun> its not my native language
[05:35:27] <mrsun> =9
[05:35:34] <frallzor> shame on you
[05:35:52] <Loetmichel> neither mine ;-)
[05:36:34] <frallzor> that´s what she said!
[05:36:50] <Loetmichel> ... but my wife was an english teacher once ;-)
[05:37:24] <mrsun> nah eat something and then get back to making grinding jig ... soon i will outsource this freakin grinding :P
[05:38:29] * archivist pulls up Loetmichel for using choosed last night
[05:39:07] <mrsun> haha
[05:39:48] <Loetmichel> nobody is perfect... and my wife is in america this week, so no "WRONG" yelling from the other office when i tyask for some spelling/grammar ;-)
[05:39:50] <Loetmichel> -ty
[05:40:47] <Loetmichel> but the your/you're has got me SO much hits, its sunken in deep ;-)
[05:42:38] <Loetmichel> its like a reversed pavlov: reading the wron your has me waiting for the proverbial whiplash ;-)
[05:42:42] <Loetmichel> +g
[07:11:52] <frallzor> I wish it would be proper to booze up right about now
[07:12:15] <frallzor> cant think of anything else that would make coding fun for me!
[07:13:43] <Jymmm> Coding Swordfish Style!
[07:14:05] <frallzor> ohhh
[07:14:10] <frallzor> that could work
[07:14:33] <frallzor> but its a big maybe, coding still sucks
[07:14:47] <Jymmm> That's her job
[07:14:49] <frallzor> but it wouldnt be the only thing sucking atleast
[07:15:02] <archivist> frallzor, you need some fortran to clear your head
[07:15:11] <Jymmm> And if coding for you sucks, maybe you should consider something else
[07:16:00] <frallzor> not much else to consider to get things working in linuxCNC =P so I have to live through it
[07:16:17] <frallzor> freezing my balls off running back and forth testing if it works
[07:16:42] <frallzor> I refuse to wear pants when I work at home =P
[07:16:55] <Jymmm> http://www.mrheater.com/product.aspx?catid=41&id=24
[07:17:06] * jthornton hands frallzor a sim for his inside computer
[07:17:21] <frallzor> wont do much good out in the cold Jymmm =)
[07:17:52] <Jymmm> frallzor: A heater won't do much good in the cold??? WTH
[07:18:01] <frallzor> >out<
[07:18:22] <frallzor> its cold outside, which I have to pass to get to my machine =)
[07:19:09] <Jymmm> quit your whining Either wear pants or freeze your balls off.
[07:19:18] <frallzor> never
[07:19:33] <Jymmm> frallzor The Unic
[07:30:53] <archivist> I keep 5 layers on to keep the tackle warm, indoors or out
[07:39:38] <DJ9DJ> re
[07:48:38] <Jymmm> archivist: Rosie and her five sisters?
[07:53:41] <jdh> I haven't done any fortran since last week.
[08:01:10] <archivist> jdh, I am messing with some 1970s CAM
[08:03:01] <jdh> I'm messing with current production code :)
[08:04:08] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/apt/aptos/apt360/orig_source/g77/err.txt source is in the same directory
[08:04:29] <archivist> eeeeevil some of it is
[10:48:14] <frallzor> eyy mr JT-Shop =P
[10:48:22] <JT-Shop> lol
[10:48:31] <frallzor> 1 thing left to fix
[10:48:36] <frallzor> i get -32.55
[10:48:40] <frallzor> when the routine is done
[10:48:43] <frallzor> not 32.55
[10:48:51] <JT-Shop> where?
[10:48:54] <frallzor> Z
[10:49:08] <frallzor> I run the routine, it does all this http://pastebin.com/0uBM8wzj
[10:49:12] <frallzor> then its -32.55
[10:49:18] <frallzor> not 32.55 which is above stock
[10:50:58] <JT-Shop> when you jog down to the top of the material what does the z dro read?
[10:51:39] <frallzor> didnt check, but as it works now it will show -65.1 id assume
[10:51:49] <frallzor> negative as it goes down
[10:52:21] <frallzor> I want my 0 at the stock top
[10:54:00] <JT-Shop> I think I led you astray, use G10 L20 P0 Z32.55
[10:54:19] <frallzor> I guess youre a 0 bottom kind of guy? =P
[10:55:03] <JT-Shop> no, Z0 is typically the top for me... sometimes it makes sense to set Z0 a the top of the parallels it just depends on the material and job
[10:55:19] <frallzor> what does that change do now then?
[10:55:24] <frallzor> teach me =D
[10:55:53] <JT-Shop> from the manual "G10 L20 is similar to G10 L2 except that instead of setting the offset/entry to the given value, it is set to a calculated value that makes the current coordinates become the given value."
[10:56:25] <frallzor> ah
[10:56:45] <JT-Shop> time to run to town be back after while
[10:57:25] <frallzor> and time for me to test this =)
[12:15:30] <JT-Shop> testing...
[12:16:18] <Connor> JT-Shop: Testing what?
[12:16:34] <JT-Shop> the frallzor is
[12:16:55] <frallzor> works fine =)
[12:17:13] <frallzor> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode.html is it just me or isnt there Run command there?
[12:18:23] <Connor> frallzor: Huh? What do you mean ?
[12:18:42] <frallzor> Program Start
[12:18:54] <frallzor> I just see ways to stop or pause
[12:19:14] <Connor> Wouldn't make sense for G-code to have a run command.
[12:19:27] <cradek> it makes no sense to have a gcode that starts the gcode executing, but it does make sense to have gcodes that stop or pause execution
[12:19:45] <ReadError> woot
[12:19:48] <ReadError> ordered my superpid
[12:19:50] <frallzor> oh I thought the MX was to run the code
[12:19:51] <cradek> maybe you've got a different question that led you to search for this - what are you trying to do?
[12:19:56] <ReadError> didnt realize it was coming from .au though ;(
[12:20:07] <cradek> I don't know what MX means
[12:20:12] <frallzor> M1 M2 etc
[12:20:25] <cradek> no, those are commands you can put in the program
[12:20:52] <frallzor> that explain alot then, just looking for a way to add "run code" to a button
[12:20:54] <frallzor> *S
[12:21:06] <frallzor> was looking for the "command" to start running the code
[12:21:19] <Connor> That would be a HAL command
[12:21:49] <Connor> You trying to add a external button or something like a cycle start ?
[12:21:58] <frallzor> indeed
[12:22:23] <frallzor> Im not 100% familiar with all the terms so I get fuzzy alot
[12:22:26] <Connor> Via hardware switch or keyboard emulator or what ?
[12:22:31] <frallzor> via gamepad
[12:23:20] <frallzor> was looking for a list of commands one can use to start cycles, pause etc etc
[12:23:39] <JT-Shop> halui.run or something like that
[12:23:50] <JT-Shop> maybe halui.program.run
[12:24:10] <Connor> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/halui_examples.html
[12:24:15] <JT-Shop> I thought you were going to use the halui mdi???
[12:24:32] <frallzor> JT-Shop this is a new thought not related to that =)
[12:24:39] <frallzor> spare buttons I wanna play with
[12:24:50] <JT-Shop> ok halui.program.run
[12:25:45] <JT-Shop> frallzor: http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/47-hal-examples/13201-runstep-holdresume-buttons
[12:25:46] <Connor> That explains how to set it up.
[12:26:12] <frallzor> Im starting to like the examples alot, most are well documented =)
[12:26:36] <frallzor> ah nice JT-Shop
[12:27:46] <frallzor> well those links gave me alot of meat on the bone I have to say
[12:30:29] <anonimasu> anyone used a micrometer made by MIB germany ?
[12:41:45] <cpresser> anonimasu: we hat a few of those at the university. but i cant tell you much about them
[12:50:33] <anonimasu> are they decent?
[12:52:41] <frallzor> hmmm anyone know if there is an easy way to see if ones VFD has inputs for external control?
[12:54:03] <archivist> read its manual :)
[12:56:14] <frallzor> or I know there is a way, but manual doesnt really tell one to know if it has the expansioncard needed
[12:56:34] <frallzor> *how to know
[12:57:13] <frallzor> was thinking if there are inputs I could look for that indicates it can input external connections =)
[13:00:33] <andypugh> I have never seen a VFD without inputs for external control
[13:01:41] <JT-Shop> I think so back in the 80's
[13:02:04] <JT-Shop> some Toshiba drives IIRC
[13:02:50] <JT-Shop> http://imagebin.org/245564
[13:04:13] <frallzor> this is an older danfoss
[13:04:26] <frallzor> should support modbus with the card, dont know if it installed though
[13:07:08] <JT-Shop> yea my hydraulic cylinder order status changed from backordered to pending
[13:09:19] <andypugh> I think mine is a Danfoss, it is certainly old. :-)
[13:09:20] <mrsun> frallzor, hmm doesnt all have that? :P
[13:09:34] <mrsun> have a danfoss laying around i dont know what to do with :P
[13:10:19] <andypugh> JT-Shop: The wheels seem oddly positioned?
[13:13:41] <JT-Shop> andypugh: it is a log splitter not a trailer so yes much too far to the rear for a trailer
[13:14:06] <andypugh> Does is strike anyone as a crazy idea to use these in a preloaded back-to-back arrangment? http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/p150727/3809B2RSRTVH+Rubber+Sealed+Double+Row+Angular+Contact+Ball+Bearing+45x58x10mm/product_info.html
[13:15:05] <JT-Shop> andypugh: this might be what it looks like when I'm finished http://imagebin.org/245565
[13:15:59] <JT-Shop> angular contact should work back to back
[13:16:28] <JT-Shop> dunno if I would preload them or not...
[13:16:41] * JT-Shop heads to the woods for a bike ride
[13:18:12] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Not terrifying enough, how about one of these? http://youtu.be/2bVAAx3mMKY
[13:18:41] <andypugh> The point is that those bearings are already double-row, but (AFAIK) without internal preload.
[13:21:44] <JesusAlos> hi
[13:26:35] <anonimasu> I just bought a micrometer from them and im trying to figure what kind of quality it's got.
[13:26:40] <anonimasu> (waiting for it to arrive)
[13:27:11] <mrsun> hmm non rubber sealed bearings in wood working how does that fair ?
[13:27:22] <mrsun> will they get clogged? :/
[13:27:48] <JesusAlos> I'm looking for a economycal servos and drives
[13:27:59] <andypugh> mrsun: I would expect so. In fact I would probably want conventional seals as well as the built-in ones.
[13:28:04] <JesusAlos> about 100w or less
[13:28:11] <mrsun> andypugh, conventional ?
[13:28:23] <andypugh> mrsun: Separate oil seals.
[13:28:30] <mrsun> im building a design like the mechmate and the bearings i got are just steel plate sealed
[13:28:32] <andypugh> JesusAlos: Keling?
[13:28:44] <frallzor> mrsun mine work fine
[13:28:54] <mrsun> frallzor, ahh you do not have rubber seals either? :)
[13:28:57] <frallzor> pretty sure they arent rubbersealed
[13:29:07] <mrsun> as long as they work a year or two i guess its no problem
[13:29:11] <frallzor> i just wipe them off from time to time and blow compressed air
[13:29:16] <mrsun> expensive to have to buy them by the week :P
[13:29:36] <mrsun> frallzor, #elektronik
[13:29:38] <mrsun> :P
[13:29:44] <JesusAlos> 200 W AC Brushless Servo Motor and Driver: $649.95 Special Price: $609.95 Specification
[13:29:47] <mrsun> if you havent checked
[13:29:50] <JesusAlos> economic?
[13:30:07] <frallzor> 18 you say
[13:30:10] <frallzor> missed that
[13:31:06] <frallzor> got a better link? =P
[13:32:39] <frallzor> or never mind
[13:32:46] <frallzor> found my printed manual =)
[13:35:10] <mrsun> frallzor, the links from google sucks
[13:35:22] <mrsun> as far as i can find you cant get a direct link to stuff like pdfs etc
[13:35:23] <mrsun> :/
[13:35:53] <frallzor> I like paper manuals! fun to browse through
[13:40:07] <JesusAlos> GN people
[13:40:33] <andypugh> JesusAlos: I think the only really economical source for servos is second-hand on eBay
[13:52:54] <anonimasu> I like paper catalogs because you can acutally find stuff in them.
[13:59:45] <Tecan> "What has no wings, but flies all over? A spider!"
[14:10:38] <frallzor> trying to apply http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/47-hal-examples/13201-runstep-holdresume-buttons in this http://pastebin.com/8Rx29nby
[14:10:41] <frallzor> but no go
[14:10:49] <frallzor> anyone can see any major flaws? =)
[14:13:12] <andypugh> 155. net pause-resume-btn and2.1.in0 and2.1.in0 <= input.0.btn-back
[14:13:12] <andypugh>
[14:13:12] <andypugh>
[14:13:12] <andypugh>
[14:13:41] <andypugh> (Sorry, unfamiliar client)
[14:14:01] <frallzor> i found some issues under #for start/stop/resume
[14:14:13] <frallzor> not connecting to the newly added ors etc etc
[14:14:30] <frallzor> trying to connect to the ones I hade before adding new things
[14:14:50] <andypugh> Line 155 has the same pin twice.
[14:15:33] <frallzor> ah fixed
[14:16:35] <frallzor> hmm this seems ok to me atleast now
[14:17:32] <andypugh> What manner of "No Joy" do you have?
[14:18:01] <frallzor> say what? =P
[14:21:44] <andypugh> Sorry, I meant "No Go". ie, how is the failure to function manifested?
[14:22:20] <frallzor> I didnt really notice the issue, but I like you saw error now + DOS line endings
[14:22:28] <frallzor> so didnt care much due to that
[14:22:34] <andypugh> Ah, so it now works?
[14:22:35] <frallzor> but most should be fixed now
[14:22:43] <frallzor> I will check in a few =)
[14:35:36] <mrsun> hmm any tips to reduce "glazing" on angle grinder discs? :/
[14:35:41] <frallzor> now I can start a cycle
[14:35:48] <frallzor> but paus, resume and step wont go
[14:36:26] <ssi> mrsun: grinding aluminum?
[14:36:30] <frallzor> and I forgot the file of course
[14:36:30] <mrsun> nah
[14:36:31] <mrsun> steel
[14:36:38] <ssi> go slower
[14:36:40] <ssi> less heat
[14:36:42] <ssi> water cooling maybe
[14:37:41] <andypugh> mrsun: Are you using the right sort of discs? Not ones meant for stone, for example?
[14:37:46] <mrsun> water cooling is not realy an alternative as the table is mdf :P
[14:37:57] <mrsun> andypugh, as far as i know they are ment for steel
[14:38:13] <andypugh> Possibly press harder. Or less hard.
[14:38:15] <mrsun> they cut fine for a short while then they glaze up and sparks fly but almost nothing hapends :/
[14:38:32] <mrsun> cant press harder as im grinding V thingies for the machine
[14:38:56] <frallzor> also know as v-rails =)
[14:39:02] <frallzor> *n
[14:39:11] <andypugh> Are you sure they are glazed, and you aren't just finished? (This is in a jig, I assume?)
[14:39:32] <mrsun> andypugh, yes im not finnished as it lifts the whole angle iron up a bit where im grinding
[14:40:35] <andypugh> Not a problem I have ever had, but I suspect that you need softer wheels.
[14:41:17] <andypugh> Anyway, time to snooze (Finland time)
[14:41:21] <mrsun> gonna buy a disc of more expensive brand tomorrow after work, the one im using now is a cheapy
[15:24:23] <frallzor> woho I got it all to work
[15:24:32] <frallzor> happy happy joy joy
[15:25:38] <skunkworks> we like to call that the happy dance
[15:26:06] <frallzor> I'm starting to like hal
[15:26:12] <frallzor> its pretty nifty
[15:26:27] <skunkworks> It is very powerful
[15:27:01] <frallzor> accompanied with some nice examples its pretty easy I´d say
[15:27:13] <frallzor> even though Im just starting to understand the basics =)
[15:29:01] <frallzor> although I had some momens where I wanted hal to be a person so I could kill it!
[15:29:04] <frallzor> *moments
[15:31:17] <Connor> frallzor: I think we all have.
[15:32:18] <Connor> Would be cool if someone could come up with a GUI that would let you connect all the PINS and busses and hal components together and then geneate a file..
[15:32:39] <frallzor> have you used rhino3d?
[15:32:48] <Connor> Me? No
[15:32:52] <skunkworks> peole have tried..... but I think it just gets too complicated fast...
[15:33:03] <frallzor> there is a nice plugin called grasshopper for it
[15:33:21] <frallzor> something like that for linuxCNC would be awesome
[15:34:16] <Connor> I still get confused on nets and stuff sometimes with hal..
[15:34:30] <frallzor> http://api.ning.com/files/Wfofzfta0RRXmS5z*d76mqCDWhOfzJQXg7IVNLoEE4X0*pRohzY02dowIVGh6G8bttKeiCXVvI54IGJosSFjBFZjSDjsS7Al/PARAFRAMEGHdef.jpg
[15:34:38] <frallzor> making hal in this manner would be cool
[15:35:02] <frallzor> its awesome how much one can do this way rhino =)
[15:35:25] <gene77> Grrrr-- g2-3 is eating my lunch. I want to dig a trench to clear this new screw in the nut holder. So g19. is in effect..Whats the normal math to be able to tell G3 to go to the other side of the trench, digging a groove that is Y deep, a semi circle IOW
[15:36:11] <gene77> Hi Michael
[15:37:43] <skunkworks> don't you nean Z deep?
[15:37:52] <skunkworks> *mean
[15:38:18] <Nick001-Shop> Where is the actual MDI file on linuxcnc?
[15:38:24] <Jymmm> lim_(x->c)(f(x)-f(c))/(x-c) hat(ab) bar(xy) ul(A) vec(v) root(3)(x^2)
[15:47:59] <tjtr33> skunkworks, i love the simple method used to show the high acc on the rotopod, it simply is faster than gravity
[15:54:37] <Connor> Trying to decide if 800x600 on a 10" monitor is big enough for linuxcnc (touchscreen)
[15:58:23] <cradek> pretty sure 800x600 works fine for touchy. if you want to see what it'll be like, why not set your resolution to that and try it out
[15:58:43] <Connor> cradek: Becuse, I'm running on a 22" right now. :)
[15:59:12] <Connor> and, I'm not sure I'll be using Touchy.. probably Axis with some extra touch stuff via glade on the side panel.
[15:59:38] <cradek> then it'll work badly
[16:00:12] <frallzor> is touchy still needing physical buttons to start cycles etc?
[16:00:23] <frallzor> remember trying it when it was new just to see how it looked
[16:00:31] <cradek> yes, you need at least two buttons, one switch, and a wheel
[16:00:51] <frallzor> if I use my gamepad then?
[16:01:05] <frallzor> I can jog and start/pause etc
[16:01:06] <Connor> cradek: Why do you say that? not enough room for the extra glade panel ?
[16:01:43] <cradek> Connor: AXIS has never worked well on touchscreen. it wasn't designed for it. and I'm pretty sure AXIS no longer fits on 800x600
[16:01:56] <cradek> so you're doing approximately everything wrong if you try that :-)
[16:02:05] <frallzor> I use axis on touch
[16:02:21] <frallzor> I have to say it works pretty ok,
[16:02:57] <Connor> Okay, so, bigger monitor then.. :)
[16:03:19] <Connor> Touch is okay, just wish it displayed the model..
[16:03:41] <cradek> I think some people have used gremlin to do that. I haven't messed with that much.
[16:04:56] <Connor> I have a little USB touch screen monitor that would be cool to use.. but, I've never gotten it work work on linux.
[16:14:02] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:17:24] <Connor> Not finding much about Gremlin in Touchy..
[16:18:51] <frallzor> Gremlin... dont get it wet? =P
[16:26:18] <Tecan> ( CPU ) ( Frequency ) MHz
[16:26:25] <Tecan> hmmm
[16:45:20] <Tecan> holy cow 40 grand for a rackmount pc http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DELL-POWEREDGE-C6145-4-X-AMD-OPTERON-16C-6282-SE-2-60GHz-64GB-RAM-24-X-480GB-SSD-/370749610882?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&hash=item5652661b82
[16:46:22] <frallzor> 4 X AMD OPTERON 16 CORE PROCESSORS 6282 SE 2.60GHz 16MB CACHE 115W 6.40GT/s SBS =)
[16:47:02] <Connor> 480 GB SSD's in it though..
[16:47:09] <Tecan> lol a bit overkill
[16:47:23] <Tecan> i need it for running word
[16:58:26] <ReadError> facebook machine
[17:13:52] <ReadError> Valen
[17:13:56] <ReadError> i see you are from .au
[17:14:07] <ReadError> do you know how long shipping takes going to the USA by chance?
[17:15:15] <frallzor> yo JT-Shop
[17:19:46] <JT-Shop> yes
[17:20:04] <frallzor> http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7026/pendant.jpg this describes my machine now =P
[17:21:50] <frallzor> probably will add so that one of the touch-off buttons also is needed for starting
[17:22:42] <JT-Shop> what are you using for the safety button?
[17:22:55] <jdh> safety whats?
[17:23:05] <frallzor> +1 =P
[17:23:42] <JT-Shop> nice
[17:23:56] <frallzor> safety is sooo 90s
[17:25:22] <frallzor> one step at a time, now its all working atleast =
[17:25:23] <frallzor> =P
[17:25:32] <frallzor> a future project is making it safe =)
[17:25:51] <JT-Shop> tell it to stumpy
[17:25:56] <jdh> you have more fingers than you need anyway
[17:26:44] <frallzor> ill dream about the future fix now! so NN =)
[17:32:56] <JT-Shop> so your GTG?
[17:36:18] <jdh> he's G
[17:54:32] <gene77> well, I re-wrote the thing, but with a ballnose, I'm having a heck of a time keeping from pushing the bit up in the collet.
[17:54:55] <jdh> JB Weld the bit into the collet.
[17:55:20] <gene77> So I cut the step size from .1" to ,025", and now linuxcnc seems to be running out of memory
[17:56:24] <gene77> But its only 34 LOC!
[17:58:12] <gene77> So I'm going to close this down for the duration
[17:58:38] <tjb1> Hi fellas
[17:58:48] <ReadError> soup
[18:27:14] <r00t4rd3d> poop
[19:07:02] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d8a_1360047793
[19:07:06] <r00t4rd3d> ADIOS!
[19:08:06] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d, ordered my collets today
[19:08:21] <ReadError> not sure if i should have spent the extra 30-40 on the "ultra precise"
[19:08:28] <ReadError> so i got the regulars for now
[19:10:41] <JT-Shop> 4500 posts!
[19:11:31] <Tom_itx> all good ones?
[19:11:47] <JT-Shop> I try
[19:12:05] <r00t4rd3d> spammer
[19:12:51] <r00t4rd3d> ReadError, did you order mine too?
[19:13:17] <r00t4rd3d> Ill take the UP set
[19:13:30] <ReadError> sure thing boss man im on it
[19:13:42] <ReadError> duno why you have not got one yet
[19:15:39] <r00t4rd3d> I will get one, I only need the 1/4 set though
[19:15:57] <ReadError> ya but the set you get the wrenches and stuff
[19:16:23] <r00t4rd3d> you get them with the others too
[19:16:38] <r00t4rd3d> Dewalt 611 Collet Kit (contains 1/4in. PG collet, collet nut, Talon© spanner wrench, calibration blank and 118 ml of ColletCare)
[19:16:45] <r00t4rd3d> 60
[19:18:22] <ReadError> ah
[19:18:25] <ReadError> i got the hitachi
[19:18:28] <r00t4rd3d> just having that style wrench does it for me
[19:18:46] <ReadError> well its called a talon wrench
[19:18:49] <ReadError> just sounds bad ass
[19:19:38] <r00t4rd3d> not a fan of hitachi
[19:20:15] <r00t4rd3d> did you get the m12vc?
[19:20:55] <ReadError> yea
[19:21:00] <ReadError> looked nice
[19:21:02] <ReadError> heard its good
[19:21:09] <ReadError> quiet and runs strong
[19:21:19] <ReadError> got a superpid enroute
[19:21:26] <ReadError> so i can control it down to 5k rpm
[19:21:55] <r00t4rd3d> no lights and no variable speed
[19:23:05] <r00t4rd3d> how much did you pay for it?
[19:23:10] <ReadError> 119
[19:23:14] <ReadError> prime style
[19:23:17] <ReadError> overnight..
[19:23:48] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEWALT-1-25-HP-Variable-Speed-Compact-Router-DWP611-/200888957996?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item2ec5ea3c2c
[19:23:51] <r00t4rd3d> 125
[19:23:58] <r00t4rd3d> for a dwp611
[19:24:17] <ReadError> ya but the hitachi is like 2x the power
[19:24:35] <ReadError> and i got a mount for it
[19:24:44] <r00t4rd3d> in no way shape or form is hitachi a better brand then dewalt.
[19:25:11] <r00t4rd3d> dont even compare
[19:25:52] <r00t4rd3d> i use power tools for fun and for work, daily
[19:25:59] <ReadError> i got a hitachi drill
[19:26:02] <ReadError> its pretty sweet
[19:26:22] <r00t4rd3d> im sure its lithium too
[19:27:13] <r00t4rd3d> most of the newer cordless lithium powered drills are decent nowadays
[19:28:53] <ReadError> yea its like 18v
[19:28:58] <ReadError> light and powerful
[19:30:11] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Makita-1-1-4-HP-Compact-Router-RT0700C-NEW-/390523724881?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item5aed072451
[19:30:20] <r00t4rd3d> thats even nicer then the dewalt.
[19:30:54] <Valen> ReadError: depends on what method you pick
[19:31:01] <Valen> generally I'd say 2 weeks or so
[19:31:17] <Valen> for standard
[19:31:42] <ReadError> shucks
[19:31:49] <ReadError> yea its registered airmail i think
[19:32:21] <Valen> if its registered its probably trackable
[19:32:30] <ReadError> yea should be trackable
[19:32:38] <ReadError> this sucker was expensive for what it is
[19:33:21] <ReadError> you got a router as well Valen ? or mostly mill
[19:33:56] <Valen> building a router got a mill at the moment
[19:34:04] <ReadError> well when you get it up
[19:34:12] <ReadError> i know some guys in the AU looking for some stuff cut
[19:34:20] <ReadError> if you want to recover some cost
[19:34:28] <Valen> what are they doing?
[19:34:36] <Valen> we do a lot of wood on the mill ;->
[19:34:36] <ReadError> multirotor parts
[19:34:48] <ReadError> probably in G10
[19:35:04] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porter-Cable-6902-1-3-4-HP-Router-Motor-/110946714700?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item19d4f0844c
[19:35:07] <r00t4rd3d> macdaddy
[19:35:33] <Valen> ReadError: don't know what any of that means lol
[19:35:40] <Valen> oh you mean quadrotor stuff out of PCB?
[19:35:49] <ReadError> yea very similar
[19:41:55] <ReadError> whats cool is the superpid will keep the motor running at the right rpm
[19:42:01] <ReadError> when its under a load
[19:46:06] <Valen> ReadError: we can probably do that stuff now
[19:46:13] <Valen> we have a 24Krpm spindle ;-.
[19:46:16] <Valen> how big?
[19:48:12] <ReadError> each part
[19:48:17] <ReadError> maybe 6x6"
[19:48:21] <ReadError> not huge stuff
[19:48:28] <Icekiller> r00t4rd3d how much dB does it make? xd
[19:49:04] <Valen> yesh we can fit that
[19:49:17] <Valen> not too much bigger on the Y axis
[19:51:08] <ReadError> Valen, he may hit you up here in a sec
[19:51:23] <Valen> I'll go put on my sexy undies
[19:51:47] <ReadError> lol
[20:29:37] <r00t4rd3d> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaN-Emvizq8
[20:45:16] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, have you looked at the software that came with the obd adapter?
[20:45:38] <r00t4rd3d> they included pirated software lol
[22:06:12] <tjb1> it came with software?
[22:22:52] <r00t4rd3d> a mini cd
[22:23:07] <tjb1> i cant use that in my mac
[22:24:17] <r00t4rd3d> best cad drawing ever
[22:24:18] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/yqVFQxM.jpg
[22:26:22] <r00t4rd3d> http://engineers-drinks.blogspot.com.au/2010/04/color-version-online.html
[22:26:30] <r00t4rd3d> a better, printable version
[22:38:33] <tjb1> Id love if I ever got my damn LinuxCNC pendant
[22:38:40] <tjb1> January delivery has come and gone...
[22:39:41] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:31994
[23:24:04] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-Handwheel-USB-MPG-Pendant-for-CNC-Mac-Mach-3-4-axis-Engraving-Router-/360568826781?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item53f393ab9d
[23:29:42] <r00t4rd3d> i need a nexus 7 tripod mount
[23:41:58] <r00t4rd3d> got my extended carriages on my gantry and that back on tonight
[23:42:50] <r00t4rd3d> now im gonna make a z axis that uses my old, smaller carriages
[23:43:34] <r00t4rd3d> atleast thats what i think am gonna do