#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-01-18

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[00:23:08] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[02:15:25] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:30:26] <Mr_Wolfsl> Hi
[02:37:05] <DJ9DJ> hi there
[02:37:08] <Mr_Wolfsl> Can I install ubuntu-10.04-linuxcnc3-i386.iso on a arch amd64?
[02:37:15] <Mr_Wolfsl> Hi
[02:38:08] <Valen> yes
[02:38:18] <Mr_Wolfsl> ok thanks
[02:38:45] <Mr_Wolfsl> cause I have some problem with my pc
[02:58:32] <Loetmichel> <- is cleaning the workshop here in between two projects... i want an apprentice again to do the do the sweeping :-) (its unbelieveable how much trash is generatet from only 5 Cpu boxes and monitors... paper box: full. Packing foam box: full... scrap steel box: full...)
[02:58:45] <Loetmichel> -t+d
[05:37:39] <Mr_Wolfsl> Anyone know why in joint mode I don't have the touch ?
[05:45:38] <Mr_Wolfsl> touch off
[06:18:23] <jthornton> I'm sure there is a good reason why they programmed Axis that way but it is too early to think
[07:05:48] <archivist> jthornton, do you use threading (g76) much
[07:13:28] <jthornton> yes
[07:21:30] <archivist> do you notice errors in pitch due to acceleration and deceleration ramps
[07:22:17] <archivist> or are you thinking near enough :)
[07:24:26] <archivist> I think the docs or g76 itself needs a fix to either error if impossible at that speed or user needs to add space for the ramps
[07:27:19] <jthornton> I've not seen any pitch errors
[07:28:12] <archivist> if your servos accelerate fast enough you wont see, I do due to slow stepper acceleration
[07:29:08] <jthornton> seems odd that it doens't throw an error if the axis can't keep up
[07:29:28] <Tom_itx> no feedback could cause that
[07:29:30] <jthornton> what RPM are you threading at?
[07:29:58] <archivist> you can turn up the spindle so the z is on the limit linuxcnc still does not error
[07:30:36] <archivist> I think errors are deliberately ignored due to the wait for index and then accelerate part
[07:31:27] <archivist> it cannot be "in gear" in that phase
[07:33:17] <archivist> 400 rpm was the max rpm for that thread (Z at limit), I used 160 rpm to get a good enough thread
[08:11:59] <Jymmm> 3 phase converter http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/3553199163.html
[09:01:29] <Mr_Wolfsl> When I'm in world mode the max velocity take the TRAJ then my axis Z is too fast
[10:00:44] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[10:25:42] <mrsun> hmm what i miss in some cad/cam programs is the stock definition ...
[10:25:53] <mrsun> atleast say heekscad does not take this into account to remove material ...
[10:51:57] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[10:52:36] <IchGuckLive> question can a userdefind M-code call a Sub or a ngc?
[10:52:52] <IchGuckLive> or a sub in a seperate ngc
[10:53:41] <tjb1> IchGuckLive: 12-14 close when the arc starts, closing 3-4 stacks the arc
[10:53:51] <tjb1> *starts
[10:53:57] <IchGuckLive> hi folks
[10:54:16] <IchGuckLive> yes i gnow this
[10:54:40] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: did you got the mashine tourch or the sstandard
[10:55:23] <IchGuckLive> at powermax 45
[10:55:44] <tjb1> standard
[10:55:50] <IchGuckLive> with the standard you need to shorten 2pins at the tourch plug right
[10:56:03] <IchGuckLive> the safty pins
[10:56:04] <tjb1> I did it inside the machine and connected it to a toggle switch
[10:56:21] <IchGuckLive> can you make a photo of it
[10:56:50] <tjb1> I wont be home for a while but you can find the wires with the service manual
[10:57:13] <IchGuckLive> ok i wait
[10:57:35] <IchGuckLive> next question did you got a plug for the rear connection
[10:57:40] <tjb1> Yes
[10:57:43] <IchGuckLive> or also plugt inside
[10:57:54] <tjb1> Ask Jim on cnczone, he will send you exact part numbers for that rear plug
[10:57:55] <IchGuckLive> do you got a partnumber
[10:58:52] <tjb1> You know JimColt?
[10:59:13] <IchGuckLive> no
[10:59:40] <tjb1> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/members/jimcolt.html
[10:59:41] <IchGuckLive> i asked hypertherem germany as it is 40km to go but no plug only pins
[11:00:05] <tjb1> He gave me digikey part numbers but i deleted the message
[11:00:16] <tjb1> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3090951/Powermax45_Service_Manual.pdf
[11:00:23] <tjb1> Last 2 pages in that PDF are the wiring diagrams
[11:01:06] <tjb1> Wait I found them - CPC Pins - A99521-ND - Digikey
[11:01:07] <tjb1> CPC Wire Clamp - A32516-ND - Digikey
[11:01:08] <tjb1> CPC Plug - A1358-ND - Digikey
[11:02:37] <tjb1> Class, bye all
[12:07:02] <tjb1> h
[12:07:09] <IchGuckLive> Back
[12:07:21] <tjb1> You get the part numbers?
[12:07:26] <IchGuckLive> tjb1 nice its a standart 17-14 CPC
[12:07:38] <IchGuckLive> so i can get it from local dealer
[12:07:48] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: are you in europ
[12:07:52] <tjb1> Did you see wiring diagrams?
[12:07:53] <tjb1> Im in US
[12:08:06] <IchGuckLive> jes iv seen this i got it also in german
[12:09:24] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: the connecting of the safty hack woudt be interesting
[12:09:25] <tjb1> See plug J10 on the last page
[12:11:08] <tjb1> All you have to do is add that MECH jumper
[12:12:01] <IchGuckLive> yes but your solution give me back the hand version
[12:12:15] <IchGuckLive> at a switch
[12:12:18] <tjb1> My solution doesnt disable the hand version
[12:12:34] <tjb1> Due to me being lazy and not having a DP switch
[12:13:00] <tjb1> All my switch does is add-remove the jumper
[12:13:08] <tjb1> It should add jumper and disconnect the violet wire
[12:13:41] <IchGuckLive> so the hand torch start is disabled also
[12:13:52] <tjb1> Yes but I didnt do that
[12:13:55] <IchGuckLive> on the violet wire
[12:14:21] <IchGuckLive> but where did you interact at the torchplug itself or at the control card
[12:14:31] <tjb1> the wires from the plug on the panel
[12:14:37] <tjb1> between there and where they connect to the board
[12:15:12] <tjb1> Dont say that to Jim, he isnt a fan of using a hand torch
[12:16:14] <tjb1> The only ways to do it in the torch lead itself are more the violent pin to the MECH position and put a zip-tie on the trigger
[12:16:29] <tjb1> or buy another pin for the lead
[12:16:54] <tjb1> *move the violet pin...
[12:16:55] <IchGuckLive> but it is comen as you then can easy cut the supports otherwise hasadez parts will fall off and get your touch in bad shape
[12:17:57] <tjb1> my torch will almost always be on the table so I am not worried about someone else starting it
[12:19:06] <IchGuckLive> agree
[12:19:18] <IchGuckLive> but not at myne
[12:23:41] <tjb1> If I had a DP switch I would cut the violet wire too
[12:24:48] <IchGuckLive> B)
[12:24:55] <IchGuckLive> dont cut the wrong
[12:25:04] <IchGuckLive> you got a solder !
[12:35:06] <tjb1> solder?
[12:38:24] <IchGuckLive> to fix it B)
[12:38:57] <archivist> americans miss spell solder
[12:39:15] <tjb1> No sorry im just not use to reading it
[12:39:19] <tjb1> Yes I soldered them
[12:42:19] <alosindustrials> hi
[12:55:39] <tjb1> Hello.
[13:29:29] <tjb1> Oh boy, I found the gba emulator for android
[13:31:55] <IchGuckLive> nice
[13:32:16] <IchGuckLive> TheLarch: welcome to our channel
[14:01:25] <tjb1> ro
[14:09:56] <alpha1125> anyone played with the raspberry pi for CNC or other stuff?
[14:11:23] <JT-Shop> there is some chatter on the forum about raspberries and blueberries
[14:13:08] <alpha1125> I miss playing with the lathe and mill…
[14:13:15] <alpha1125> I stopped after I got a full time job...
[14:13:36] <alpha1125> and now that I have some extra cash, I never had time… (work, kid, life)… it was such a fun hobby
[14:14:39] <JT-Shop> most folks go through that phase but it only lasts 20 or so years
[14:14:44] <TheLarch> alpha1125, it can run LinuxCNC headless, some other arm boards hav been ported as well
[14:27:16] <pcw_home> Looks like the cubie board is available now
[14:27:18] <pcw_home> looks pretty nice for $49.00
[14:33:00] <TheLarch> I have to get my hands on a cubie to test the IRQ's
[14:33:29] <pcw_home> I'm interested in how fast you can toggle the GPIO
[14:34:08] <pcw_home> (to make a simple 8 or 16 bit bus for FPGA interface)
[14:34:51] <TheLarch> I have had the only released partial data sheet for the a10 but it doesn't have much for the GPIO's
[14:35:00] <TheLarch> we will just have to see
[14:35:16] <pcw_home> I could use the SPI (which doesnt have much data either)
[14:35:30] <TheLarch> there is a fast NAND interface that aslo could be used
[14:36:01] <TheLarch> the reports have been that SPI works well on the A10
[14:36:10] <pcw_home> Is that brought out on the cubie?
[14:36:19] <pcw_home> (nand)
[14:36:30] <TheLarch> Olimex has an a10 board in the works with 2GB DDR3
[14:36:53] <JT-Shop> anyone use a Buffalo soldering machine and can tell me how to use it
[14:37:10] <TheLarch> pretty sure the NAND is there since they router all the GPIO and it's shared
[14:37:28] <pcw_home> Why would you solder a buffalo?
[14:37:31] <TheLarch> some pins have 4 different posibilities
[14:37:39] <JT-Shop> to keep them from wandering off
[14:37:47] <pcw_home> lol
[14:37:56] <JT-Shop> http://buydentalequipment.com/dental-lab-equipment-soldering-machine-c-92_300/buffalo-dental-soldering-machine-p-2894
[14:37:59] <JT-Shop> like that one
[14:38:35] <pcw_home> Ahh a resistance soldering station
[14:38:49] <pcw_home> My wife has one for jewelry
[14:38:52] <JT-Shop> Ricky want's to solder some silver with it
[14:39:07] <TheLarch> 2000 deg F
[14:39:51] <TheLarch> spot welder
[14:40:00] <JT-Shop> do you position the part on the carbon with the ground clip then press the foot petal to heat?
[14:40:08] <JT-Shop> we have one but no instructions
[14:40:31] <pcw_home> Yes something like that
[14:41:05] <JT-Shop> ok, we will attempt to self teach with some copper sheet parts
[14:41:20] <pcw_home> you ground the work and use the carbon as the heat source
[14:42:12] <JT-Shop> ok, that makes sense
[14:42:16] <pcw_home> the high resistance point of contact of the carbon to the work provide the localized heat
[14:42:48] <JT-Shop> Ricky is nodding his head now
[14:42:54] <JT-Shop> thanks Peter
[14:43:47] <pcw_home> It _is_ a little like a spot welder (very low voltage but high current)
[14:51:22] <pcw_home> OK I see nand pins are on port C
[14:55:12] <pcw_home> might be better to use LCD pins as GPIO , not sure I want so share the nand interface with the on card chip
[14:57:18] <pcw_home> (in case its in the middle of a Xfer during a Real time interrupt)
[15:08:41] <gene__> Silly Q guys. Trying to use my gage as both home and G38 uses. Is it required that I put in logic to disable the motion.probe-input when an axis is homing?
[15:11:59] <JT-Shop> yes, any time the probe trips when not in a probe move is a fault
[15:14:50] <gene__> Grrrr, screws with homing.
[15:15:24] <pcw_home> need another input
[15:16:48] <gene__> Ahh, then why does it trip when moving away from contact? I had to take the g38.4 stuff out of the calibration routine because g38.4 tripped, but g1 the same distance didn't
[15:17:22] <gene__> I am going to see if I can disable the probe signal while its homing instaed
[15:17:32] <gene__> Thanks John
[15:18:53] <gene__> Hummm, we need a one piece nand module
[15:19:59] <pcw_home> or just use LUT comp its, omnilogical
[15:25:57] <gene__> humm, lemme look that one up, thanks Peter
[15:29:31] <gene__> lut5, looks like I couild swap my final and in the probe networks out for that, but might need some help with the truth tables.
[15:38:26] <gene__> Peter: Define "function" in setp lut5.N.function 0xN please
[15:39:29] <gene__> can it be and, nand, nor, xor? Man page miss-fires
[15:41:08] <gene__> Ah, man page is better than wiki docs
[15:41:22] <gene__> Mqaybe I can figure it out now
[15:41:33] <gene__> Maybe I can figure it out now
[15:57:33] <Tom_itx> sounds like tig without the gas
[16:16:53] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:19:40] <gene__> Ok, one last, search_vels are ignored, goes wide open
[16:21:08] <gene__> ini syntax wrong?
[17:21:56] <gene__> Help, I can't get final position to match. Is position.txt fighting with me?
[17:24:53] <JT-Shop> gene__: you can make lut do anything
[17:25:00] <ReadError> so i got something in my eye
[17:25:01] <gene__> My gage is 4.09999 long, so that is what I have home_offset set to in the ini file
[17:25:16] <ReadError> i always wear my safety glasses too ;(
[17:25:27] <JT-Shop> gene__: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/rtcomps.html#sec:lut5
[17:25:33] <ReadError> so i scratched the white part of my eye up now its infected
[17:25:39] <ReadError> and inflammed
[17:25:56] <gene__> then home = 4.5, but its running to 9.49999= about 5" off true
[17:26:17] <gene__> Ouch
[17:28:00] <gene__> John, yes, I think I have it working although not fully 'net'ed yet. Logic out looks good
[17:31:31] <gene__> In fact, when I run it back to equal the left end of the gage, the dro says its at that HOME_OFFSET = 4.09999 WTF?
[17:32:24] <gene__> deleted the line for position.txt, no diff.
[17:33:00] <gene__> That is the point that I want the DRO to say 0.000000
[17:34:20] <JT-Shop> do you have a G54 offset in effect?
[17:36:40] <gene__> Yes John
[17:37:37] <gene__> I thought that is/was the default?
[17:37:50] <gene__> MDI says its on
[17:40:51] <gene__> I took the G54 out on the .INI but its still there after a restart
[17:43:21] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/User_Concepts.html#_when_you_8217_re_lost
[17:43:59] <gene__> I have G7, G18, G20, G90, G97 left in the ini, but it still shows G54 on a restart
[17:44:24] <JT-Shop> the G54 coordinate system is the default
[17:44:50] <JT-Shop> do a G55 and if your DRO changes you have offsets set in G54
[17:45:12] <JT-Shop> G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 (clear offsets for X,Y & Z axes in coordinate system 1)
[17:45:23] <JT-Shop> from http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/gcode.html#_g10_l2_set_coordinate_system_a_id_sec_g10_l2_a
[17:45:29] <JT-Shop> brb
[17:47:17] <Jymmm> http://reason.com/blog/2013/01/16/fillmmaker-gets-four-years-in-prison-for
[17:47:20] <Jymmm> and as someone said, he can now make "50 Guys, 1 Shower"
[17:51:03] <gene__> Ok, did that, dro's now zeroed, machine itself in far right field :)
[17:52:54] <gene__> I just put the length of the gage back in the HOME_OFFSET as -4.0999, which, IIUI, should be zero at the left end end of the gage its contacting the right end of for a home position. Right?
[17:54:57] <gene__> Wrong apparently
[18:03:04] <gene__> Got it, definite maybe. Set the gage nominally 1" from the workpiece, homed it, dro says -1.0xxx at face of workpiece.
[18:04:37] <gene__> Turns out the OFFSET is what you want it to think it is when final contact is made, and final pos can be anyplace that doesn't crash the gage. I'm gettin there
[18:06:35] <gene__> Now, I need that rockhopper thing working, but its worthless when it won't use the browsers scroll bars, but tries to shrink it to fit. Can't read 2 pixel high fonts
[18:10:47] <gene__> thanks john, that ought to be put in an .ngc file to be run at startup, then home it.
[18:11:00] <gene__> so I likely will
[19:24:58] <abetusk> So am I really the only one that is trying for an open source only toolchain/workflow?
[19:25:52] <alex4nder> no, there are plenty of people that wish
[19:29:21] <abetusk> has anyone succeeded?
[19:29:33] <alex4nder> nope
[19:29:39] <alex4nder> well, it depends on what you're trying to do
[19:30:09] <abetusk> some type of 3d modelling to gcode...
[19:30:29] <abetusk> either blender, brlcad, openscad, etc. to stl or dxf to gcode for a CNC
[19:30:39] <abetusk> or just convert directly if that's possible
[19:33:37] <tjb1> ReadError: are you here?
[19:34:39] <MattyMatt> abetusk there are gcode exporters for blender
[19:34:44] <ReadError> sup tjb1
[19:34:58] <tjb1> The d525mw isnt seeing the usb as a boot device
[19:35:03] <MattyMatt> search mgcodegenerator on wiki
[19:35:06] <tjb1> I have USB Boot enabled
[19:35:11] <ReadError> hit f12
[19:35:18] <tjb1> Its showing up in boot drive order
[19:35:19] <ReadError> see if it gives you the option in the list
[19:36:00] <tjb1> No boot device detected
[19:36:05] <Tom_itx> mmm
[19:36:26] <Tom_itx> you don't have a cd?
[19:36:26] <ReadError> f12 should give you a list
[19:36:34] <ReadError> like power on
[19:36:36] <ReadError> then hammer f12
[19:36:39] <tjb1> F12 is network boot
[19:36:41] <ReadError> until the menu comes up
[19:36:46] <ReadError> f9 ?
[19:36:53] <ReadError> it varies by bios
[19:37:00] <ReadError> but 1 key should give you a list of boot options
[19:37:14] <tjb1> I picked the USB and it says some failure...
[19:37:15] <Tom_itx> F10 is boot menu
[19:37:36] <ReadError> ah yea could be f10
[19:37:41] <Tom_itx> i just checked
[19:37:42] <Tom_itx> it is
[19:37:53] <ReadError> i know on most of our server chassis its f12
[19:37:56] <tjb1> Is there a way to pause these error screens?
[19:38:04] <ReadError> break
[19:38:11] <ReadError> or pause key
[19:38:19] <tjb1> Nope
[19:38:46] <tjb1> pxe-e61 media test failure
[19:38:53] <Tom_itx> did you make the boot from the cd?
[19:39:05] <Tom_itx> i could try it on mine
[19:39:19] <ReadError> i think he used unetbootin
[19:39:25] <tjb1> I grabbed the iso and used unetbootin
[19:39:26] <Tom_itx> he did
[19:39:36] <Tom_itx> i just forgot the steps
[19:39:38] <Tom_itx> i did it once
[19:39:41] <tjb1> That error is related to network booting
[19:39:53] <ReadError> tjb1, is there another USB in the bios?
[19:39:58] <ReadError> like USB Harddisk
[19:40:02] <ReadError> or USB Mass storage
[19:40:11] <tjb1> Let me take care of this error first
[19:40:51] <tjb1> Ok no more error now
[19:40:53] <ReadError> its probably trying to PXE boot
[19:41:00] <abetusk> MattyMatt, thanks
[19:41:01] <tjb1> That was it
[19:41:04] <tjb1> Trying usb now
[19:41:30] <tjb1> Boot menu shows the SST9500xxxxxx HDD and SanDisk Cruzer Micro
[19:41:36] <ReadError> ya sandisk
[19:41:46] <tjb1> Hitting the sandisk and it blinks a few times, no boot device detected
[19:42:00] <Tom_itx> do i need the cd to make the boot?
[19:42:30] <tjb1> All the usb ports should be the same right?
[19:43:00] <ReadError> is legacy usb on?
[19:43:04] <ReadError> not sure if that matters or not
[19:43:24] <tjb1> Let me see
[19:43:43] <tjb1> Its not on the latest bios
[19:45:00] <Tom_itx> now.. where the heck did i put the cd
[19:45:35] <tjb1> Legacy is on and all ports are enabled
[19:46:50] <tjb1> Ill try bios update
[19:52:49] <Tom_itx> what's your bios ver?
[19:52:51] <tjb1> Wont even boot that USB for bios update
[19:53:17] <tjb1> 0083
[19:53:39] <Tom_itx> where do you see that?
[19:53:40] <ReadError> try turning off legacy
[19:53:52] <tjb1> Right beside bios version Tom_itx
[19:53:54] <ReadError> are you using the usb port in the front or back ?
[19:54:01] <Tom_itx> i'm making a bootable thumb drive to test
[19:54:07] <tjb1> MWPNT10N.86A.0083.2011.0524.1600
[19:54:13] <Tom_itx> yeah that
[19:54:30] <Tom_itx> mine's .0069
[19:54:36] <tjb1> Im making a new usb drive to try
[19:54:45] <Tom_itx> how do you do a bios update?
[19:54:49] <Tom_itx> is that risky?
[19:55:15] <tjb1> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3253&DwnldID=22377&ProductFamily=Desktop+Boards&ProductLine=Intel%C2%AE+NM10+Chipset+Family+Boards&ProductProduct=Intel%C2%AE+Desktop+Board+D525MW&lang=eng#help
[19:55:30] <tjb1> I wouldnt do it if you dont need it
[19:56:33] <Tom_itx> so you copied the iso to the thumbdrive then did the boot thing to it?
[19:57:03] <tjb1> no
[19:57:19] <tjb1> unetbootin takes the iso and makes it
[19:57:44] <Tom_itx> so i don't need the iso on the thumbdrive?
[19:57:52] <Tom_itx> rather the pc
[19:57:57] <tjb1> Yes
[19:57:59] <Tom_itx> k
[19:58:24] <tjb1> ReadError: My usb keyboard not working right after turning the legacy support off
[19:58:26] <Tom_itx> i'm gonna try it
[19:58:46] <ReadError> but does the usb drive boot?
[20:02:11] <tjb1> Its working now
[20:02:14] <tjb1> Must of been that flash drive
[20:02:43] <tjb1> Put it on a kingston and it worked after I turned legacy back on
[20:05:53] <Tom_itx> i'll still see if mine will boot
[20:06:06] <Tom_itx> once the iso is done
[20:06:41] <tjb1> installing from live "cd" now
[20:07:09] <tjb1> I guess I can rip the cd drive out of the old computer and put it in here for ease of use in the future
[20:07:23] <Tom_itx> mine has one
[20:07:27] <Tom_itx> i seldom use it
[20:13:30] <Tom_itx> ok that worked fine
[20:14:21] <tjb1> What brand flash drive?
[20:15:16] <ReadError> anything big in 2.6 ?
[20:15:16] <tjb1> Well its booting ubuntu now :)
[20:15:46] <tjb1> Is it safe to use the updater in ubuntu ?
[20:15:49] <Tom_itx> sandisk
[20:16:05] <Tom_itx> updater?
[20:16:20] <tjb1> The old computer kept asking me to update things
[20:16:24] <Tom_itx> i get updates but not the 12.xx install
[20:16:29] <tjb1> Maybe because I had cad programs and stuff on it
[20:16:48] <tjb1> Max jitter on servo thread is 6734 and base thread is 4436
[20:16:52] <tjb1> Good?
[20:18:00] <skunkworks> I have done very good
[20:18:05] <skunkworks> run glxgears
[20:18:35] <skunkworks> surf the web - play youtube videos... transfer files around
[20:18:53] <Tom_itx> tjb1, yeah it's good
[20:18:53] <tjb1> Where is glxgears
[20:18:56] <ReadError> tjb1, you can do the isocpus thing too
[20:19:07] <skunkworks> open a terminal - type glxgears.
[20:19:44] <tjb1> servo 6807, base 9136
[20:20:41] <tjb1> This ReadError ? http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?The_Isolcpus_Boot_Parameter_And_GRUB2
[20:20:49] <ReadError> yea
[20:22:11] <tjb1> From what I read, I need to download the 07_rtai file and run those 3 commands?
[20:23:40] <ReadError> yea if you follow those directions you should be good
[20:25:19] <tjb1> I disabled hyperthreading in the bios, is this going to do anything different
[20:32:29] <jdh> be marginally better. maybe.
[20:33:52] <Tom_itx> my stepper system with mesa cards ran fine with or without it
[20:35:18] <tjb1> Well its still running but
[20:35:37] <tjb1> Before, servo was 10806 and base was 12969, right now servo is 5218 and base is 5750
[20:36:13] <diginet> Hi, I'm new to CNC/Machining in general, but one thing I'm trying to figure out: can laser only cut, like in two dimensions, or can "mill" (I guess melt/vaporize would be more accurate) in 3 dimensions?
[20:36:43] <tjb1> You can engrave
[20:36:53] <tjb1> Change the depth by varying laser power
[20:37:01] <tjb1> I dont know how accurate you can be with it
[20:37:37] <diginet> yeah, that's what I thought
[20:38:12] <tjb1> Would depend a lot on material consistency along with tons of other factors
[20:38:30] <diginet> yeah
[20:39:12] <tjb1> servo 5864 and base 7029 now
[20:43:59] <tjb1> Been there for 5 minutes now
[20:45:46] <Tom_itx> run a bunch of apps and test it
[20:45:50] <tjb1> Whoa, base thread went up to 45,568...
[20:49:06] <tjb1> I thought I had read somewhere about a large jump in latency
[20:49:28] <skunkworks> what is the hardware?
[20:49:34] <tjb1> d525mw
[20:49:38] <skunkworks> oh
[20:51:05] <skunkworks> I thought that hardware was good...
[20:51:52] <skunkworks> disable hyperthreading in the bios?
[20:51:59] <tjb1> Yes
[20:52:12] <tjb1> That was with the latency test and glxgears running for probably 15 minutes
[20:52:28] <skunkworks> did it start to go into powersaving?
[20:52:29] <tjb1> That also happened a little bit after computer shut screen off
[20:52:36] <skunkworks> ah - turn that off.
[20:52:53] <Tom_itx> oh definitely turn that off
[20:52:55] <tjb1> power management?
[20:53:14] <Tom_itx> i'd let it all run
[20:53:30] <tjb1> Where is this setting
[20:53:38] <tjb1> Its already set to never put the computer to sleep
[20:54:07] <skunkworks> I don't have 10.04 here to look... screen saver?
[20:54:17] <Tom_itx> i'm checking.. had to boot it
[20:54:59] <Tom_itx> system -> preferences -> screensaver
[20:55:32] <Tom_itx> power management is there as well
[20:55:53] <tjb1> I turned everything off
[20:56:52] <tjb1> Anything else to take care of?
[20:57:10] <Tom_itx> i don't think so
[20:57:33] <Tom_itx> check parport mode in bios
[20:57:48] <tjb1> set to epp
[20:57:56] <tjb1> im gonna use the pci expansion for driver control though
[21:05:55] <tjb1> Anything else in terminal that is more stress?
[21:24:58] <tjb1> Been probably 20 minutes now…max jitter servo - 6260 and base - 7491
[21:30:00] <skunkworks> great!
[21:31:30] <tjb1> Hmm it just jumped to 115069 and 11209, still good
[21:58:29] <tjb1> Can you check CPU temp from within ubuntu?
[22:05:08] <s1dev> tjb1 in /dev/msr there's stuff and there's probably something in the repo
[22:05:41] <Tom_itx> ok. i'm out for tonight
[22:16:53] <tjb1> :( I dont have a sata hdd
[22:41:22] <diginet> sorry if this is a dumb question: could a multiaxis machine do the work of a lathe? theoretically even?
[22:53:30] <tjb1> Yes but not as efficient
[22:55:31] <diginet> ah okay
[22:57:25] <tjb1> Let me find a post
[22:58:56] <tjb1> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/solidcam/164348-turning_vmc.html
[22:59:13] <tjb1> enjoy
[22:59:47] <diginet> cool! thanks!
[22:59:52] <tjb1> I wish when they made these PSUs for the mini itx cases they got rid of half the damn wiring
[23:00:05] <tjb1> Im gonna have to tear it apart and take half the wiring out :(
[23:02:36] <AR_> anyone have one of those chinese spindles and VFDs?