#linuxcnc | Logs for 2013-01-17

[01:58:49] <DJ9DJ> moin
[03:46:46] <IchGuckLive> hi all from the German Frieser
[03:46:53] <IchGuckLive> brrr cold outside
[03:49:48] <mrsun> cold ? what do you have? -1C? :P
[03:50:24] <mrsun> ofc, germany doesnt have the gulf stream or whatever its called on engrish ...
[03:50:32] <mrsun> what is normal winter temperatures there ?
[03:51:50] <IchGuckLive> -7°C
[03:52:18] <IchGuckLive> it is cold enoph if you got a open shop doar and parts with length > 4m
[03:52:27] <IchGuckLive> trying to cut on hotwire
[03:53:19] <mrsun> hehe =)
[03:53:37] <mrsun> finaly climbed up a bit here, had -25C on the nights a couple of days in a row =)
[03:53:38] <IchGuckLive> B) live is hard !
[03:54:23] <IchGuckLive> i uploaded a pyvcp tutorial for germans as knowone reads the integreater maual !
[03:54:36] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[04:05:23] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[04:06:07] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: moin im waiting of you
[04:06:36] <IchGuckLive> i need a relay that handles only 500mA to the optocopler direct
[04:06:46] <IchGuckLive> so optocopler drives relay
[04:07:00] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: on reichelt what is your guess
[04:07:04] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: s/ of/for
[04:07:34] <Loetmichel> any 12V card relay should be under the 500mA rating
[04:07:48] <Loetmichel> but why not use a transostir to be sure?
[04:08:10] <Loetmichel> (dont forget the reverse diode on the relay coil because oft induced voltage, tough!"
[04:10:20] <IchGuckLive> yes 1N4148 is good
[04:11:07] <IchGuckLive> optos usely take 50mA
[07:24:44] <Tom_itx> you can drive a Hamlin HE101 direct from logic
[07:25:19] <Tom_itx> and it has a builtin diode
[07:26:46] <r00t4rd3d> gear desk http://imgur.com/a/OSwE9
[09:20:16] <IchGuckLive> §§78
[09:20:31] <IchGuckLive> B)
[10:37:37] <mrsun> hmm timging belt vs rack and pinion or other forms of drive for wood lathes, anyone has any inputs on that? :)
[10:37:46] <mrsun> thinking of flex in timing belts for example
[10:37:51] <mrsun> rack and pinion backlash
[10:47:11] <thrile> I'm trying to understand the math behind the trapezoidal profile.
[10:47:32] <IchGuckLive> in lath or the tread it self
[10:47:43] <IchGuckLive> or speed profiling Ramps
[10:47:58] <thrile> the speed profiling ramp
[10:48:09] <thrile> not acme machining :)
[10:48:34] <thrile> what I don't understand is how to express this mathematically.
[10:48:52] <thrile> i've come up with a "reverse" example, starting from what I want to obtain, to figure out my formulas, with no success.
[10:49:51] <thrile> for example, I graphed that if I apply 4mm/s^2 of acceleration for 25 seconds, 50 of the "speed" of 100mm/s and -4mm/s^2 for 25 seconds, I'll reach exactly 7500mm in 100 seconds.
[10:50:23] <Jymmm> LOL you HAVE to watch "Iron Sky" (on netflix)
[10:50:52] <thrile> Esentially, I'm trying to come up with a set of equations where I put 7500 mm in and 100s (XY and F) and a range (or just the correct) values should come out - 4mm/s^2 for 25 s
[10:51:42] <thrile> Jymmm: you should watch primer
[10:51:52] <thrile> not of any relevance to iron sky, just because it's awesome
[10:53:50] <Jymmm> thrile: added to queue =)
[10:53:53] <thrile> anyway, what I don't understand is what are my limits/boundry conditions? for example, I need to get to 7500 in 100s, that would imply a linear speed of 75mm/s. But how would I know to pick 100mm/s, given the fact the critical distance has lower displacement then the maximum velocity one (obviously)
[10:54:46] <thrile> and of course, how would I know to accelerate by 4mm/s^2? Would there be any cases where I'd use less? Or what about overriding the maximum velocity by 0.9-1.1 to keep up?
[11:26:08] <tjb1> Got all the pieces for my computer except the case so far and all my stuff from enco :)
[11:30:48] <Jymmm> andy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR9cowBm0k8
[11:31:18] <ReadError> tjb1
[11:31:24] <Jymmm> I need to find a video for mine now!
[11:31:25] <ReadError> you see my locline setup i did last night?
[11:32:10] <ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/Tw5bb.jpg
[11:32:13] <ReadError> my bench is a mess
[11:32:16] <ReadError> but it works
[11:34:49] <tjb1> Yeah that is huge
[11:34:53] <tjb1> I have class, brb 3 hours
[11:42:32] <kwallace> Looks like a scene from Dune.
[12:14:08] <Connor> Hey Guys, what's a good PPR for encoder on spindle? (Using Par-port, no mesa)
[12:14:45] <pcw_home> depends on your base thread period
[12:15:03] <Connor> 25 or 30k I think..
[12:15:06] <Connor> Atom based PC
[12:16:08] <Connor> 48,96,100,125,192,200,250,256,384,400,500,512,800,1000,1024,2048 are my options
[12:16:19] <pcw_home> so max 33KHz edge rate but you probably want about 2x safety margin
[12:16:35] <pcw_home> what is the maximum spindle speed?
[12:21:43] <archivist> I have 48 on my lathe
[12:23:14] <Connor> 7000RPM.
[12:23:21] <Connor> oh. and don't forget index.
[12:23:38] <archivist> not many rpm on spindle I start to lose counts and get a bad thread
[12:24:15] <pcw_home> 48 would be 192 counts/rev or 22400 Hz count rate at 7000 RPM so probably just OK at 30 usec
[12:24:40] <pcw_home> but not much margin
[12:24:43] <ReadError> http://i.ebayimg.com/t/New-CNC-Mill-Milling-Machine-Complete-with-Cooling-System-Grizzly-G0704-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$T2eC16VHJHEE9ny2rTo9BQtORuvri!~~60_57.JPG
[12:24:53] <ReadError> seems like the x axis would run in to that metal tray
[12:25:04] <Connor> That was my thought..
[12:25:11] <Connor> Not to mention.. it's priced WAY to high.
[12:25:18] <ReadError> yea
[12:25:19] <ReadError> 5.1k
[12:25:32] <Connor> My X stepper is on the other side.
[12:25:54] <ReadError> did you buy the conversion kit?
[12:25:58] <Connor> No.
[12:26:04] <ReadError> seems pretty expensive
[12:26:31] <Connor> Made all mine on the mill manually.. First time I ever worked with a mill.. had some lathe experience as a Kid.. but, that was YEARS ago.
[12:29:55] <archivist> pcw_home, does your math include the dead time when the part port is not being looked at (software polling), I dont seem to be able to go anywhere near that speed
[12:31:39] <pcw_home> No I am assuming perfect sampling (but would allow about 2x margin for quadrature error and sampling uncertainty
[12:33:36] <pcw_home> so for safety i would not want to try and track more that 1/2 the edge rate (so 22400 is probably too high for reliable operation at 48 PPR/7000 RPM/33KHz sample rate)
[12:34:07] <Connor> okay, base thread is 35000, servo is 1000000
[12:34:51] <pcw_home> yeah so even 48 PPR is iffy (unless you dont really need to use the encoder at high speeds)
[12:34:57] <Connor> how do you get 192 out of 48 PPR ?
[12:35:00] <archivist> I must measure my max rpm where I lose it
[12:35:37] <pcw_home> a 48 ppr encoder has 4 edges per cycle 48x4 =192
[12:36:06] <archivist> only if it has A and B in quadrature
[12:36:13] <pcw_home> Yes
[12:36:32] <archivist> I only have A and index
[12:37:55] <pcw_home> so you should be able to do twice as well speed wise
[12:38:40] <pcw_home> if its a home built encoder the sensors may be too slow (photo darlintons are)
[12:39:09] <Connor> Probably will be limiting it to around 6500.. any faster and the motor is out of range on continuous duty on voltage.
[12:40:10] <pcw_home> So marginal for quadrature probably OK for A only (unidirectional)
[12:40:19] <pcw_home> (at 48 PPR)
[12:42:17] <ve7it> I found high spindle rpms were not very useful when cutting threads.... the Z axis had problems keeping up.... but I was trying to cut 0.5" pitch thread!
[12:42:52] <pcw_home> Yeah so you may not need the encoder above a few K RPM anyway
[12:43:40] <pcw_home> wow .5" pitch would tax the Z axis
[12:51:57] <Connor> Going to use is for Tapping and RPM..
[12:52:37] <Connor> What's a good RPM for tapping? This is a 1 to 1 setup.. so, Not sure how torque will be a lower RPM..
[12:52:50] <mrsun> hmm is mild steel good enough for gibs ?
[12:53:01] <mrsun> or what material are they usaly made out of ?
[12:54:08] <pcw_home> I suspect the RPM limitation for tapping is chiefly how fast the spindle can reverse
[12:56:18] <Connor> Why would that mater? Does the Z not follow the speed of the spindle.. as it slows down, does the Z not slow too?
[12:57:28] <pcw_home> the plunge depth may exceed the tap length if the starting RPM is to high
[12:58:02] <pcw_home> which will cause emission of bad words
[12:58:31] <Connor> Probably would only do through hole tapping.. and might get one of the compression tap heads for Tormach.
[13:01:06] <pcw_home> you would probably want to air tap at various starting RPMs to
[13:01:08] <pcw_home> see what distance is needed for the spindleto come to a stop
[13:01:49] <Connor> Well that not change when tapping? More friction? Also, Have Dynamic resistor on my SCR controller..
[13:02:10] <Connor> but, Not sure it'll come into play... seeing as it go straight to reverse.
[13:05:03] <pcw_home> I guess the question is how many turns it takes to stop the
[13:05:05] <pcw_home> spindle via a reverse at various RPMs
[13:26:40] <archivist> its about 160 rpm where I lose it, the opto is good to max speed , the period is not 50:50 though like the ideal
[13:37:56] <pcw_home> 160RPM thats 3.9 ms high and 3.9 ms low so something else must be going on...
[13:45:47] <archivist> Im about 6 ms high and 2 low and base period is 40 not 25 bit of a rubbish pc
[13:47:21] <archivist> its the original encoder disk in the machine
[13:49:42] <Index-Werke> my original build which I just updated from 5i20.7i33 to the 5i25.7i77 setup :) http://huntingtonscrew.com/cnc.mp4 (volume sry)
[13:50:26] <Index-Werke> VERY pleased with it.
[13:55:50] <pcw_home> but 2 ms should be sampled 50 times at 25 KHz so I still dont understand
[14:00:09] <pcw_home> Sure its not a photo Darlington OPTO? those are often dreadfully slow
[14:02:01] <archivist> no I go direct from the encoder optos to the pc, base period is 40000 , so Im running slower
[14:03:25] <pcw_home> 40 usec base thread is 25 KHz so should be fine for 3000 RPM or more
[14:05:07] <pcw_home> I still suspect your OPTOs not sure what else could be the limit (wrong thread for fast part of encoder comp?)
[14:13:10] <Index-Werke> put encoder on a pulley 50% :)
[14:30:49] <JT-Shop> dgarr: ping
[14:41:42] <archivist> pcw_home, had a visitor, just been scoping and looking at mine, I run out of Z velocity at 400 rpm on the thread I was cutting the other day so running at about half that to allow acceleration time and a clean cut
[15:00:12] <tjb1> Tom_itx: You here?
[15:03:30] <dgarr> /msg JT-Shop hey
[15:03:49] <JT-Shop> did you get my email from this morning?
[15:04:45] <dgarr> looking
[15:41:39] <Tom_itx> tjb1,?
[15:41:47] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop did you get my reply?
[15:42:07] <Tom_itx> i tried to find a pic of mine but wasn't able to
[15:42:23] <tjb1> I had a question on the d525mw but I got it
[15:42:33] <Tom_itx> oh ok
[15:42:41] <tjb1> its all together now
[15:42:51] <Tom_itx> i like mine
[15:43:16] <tjb1> there is blood in mine lol
[15:51:57] <tjb1> alright mine is all done except adding the second parallel port
[15:57:08] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: yes, I saw it this morning
[16:24:29] <lwizardl> hello
[16:26:02] <lwizardl> I'm looking for a good application on linux that can be used to create the patterns to be later cut out on a cnc machine. I watched a video from someone using windows based application and seems he was using adobe illistrator for his.
[16:34:33] <lwizardl> example skip to about 12:47 on this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6RSAJd9sWY
[16:36:28] <lwizardl> I am trying to keep windows out of my life for good
[16:36:36] <JT-Shop> good plan
[16:36:51] <tjb1> Its very dark without windows in your life
[16:37:44] <lwizardl> tjb1, lol funny
[16:38:26] <tjb1> Are you looking for software to do this on linux?
[16:38:33] <lwizardl> yes
[16:39:16] <lwizardl> I have downloaded just about everything that comes up in the ubuntu software list and nothing seems to be as I wanted. most seems to be more like scripting then render in 3d
[16:39:18] <Vq> tjb1: They invented the oil lamp around 9000BC, works great.
[16:39:32] <tjb1> I'm particular to light bulbs
[16:39:48] <Vq> tjb1: There you go. :)
[16:40:15] <tjb1> Not sure lwizardl, the school just got a laser cutter today and I know he said something about photoshop can only rasterize and you have to use illustrator for vectors
[16:40:34] <tjb1> And then something about the color determines laser power
[16:40:39] <lwizardl> tjb1, inkscape also does vectors
[16:41:02] <tjb1> I think he was just talking about CS at the time
[16:41:28] <lwizardl> which is what I have been using so far for all my art needs (which are very basic stuff)
[16:41:46] <lwizardl> k
[16:42:35] <lwizardl> I plan to build my cnc machine when taxes come in. so I have time still but trying to get used to the program i will be using so I can have some stuff ready to use for testing the build
[16:48:38] <JT-Shop> you paid way too much in taxes if you can build a cnc machine with your refund
[16:49:02] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:51:47] <abetusk_w> could someone (or more than one) give a brief description of their toolchain? What do you use to create models and what do you use to export to gcode? Are you using BRL-CAD, Blender, OpenSCAD, something else? How do you export to gcode? Do you export to STL or DXF and then use another tool to convert to gcode? If so, which tool (MeshLab, something else)?
[16:52:02] <lwizardl> I don't plan to build a huge machine.
[16:52:53] <lwizardl> and yes I do think taxes are too high
[16:56:27] <JT-Shop> abetusk_w: I use gedit to generate my G code when I'm not using ngcgui
[16:58:32] <abetusk_w> meaning you don't bother with higher level 3d modelling at all and just write straight g-code?
[17:04:19] <Valen> rhinocad + rhinocam
[17:04:46] <abetusk_w> any open source toolchains?
[17:07:29] <JT-Shop> not sure how to take that comment
[17:09:44] <sumpfralle> abetusk_w: OpenSCAD (3D) / Inkscape (2D) -> PyCAM
[17:13:46] <tjb1> JT-Shop: http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/736551_4936545647434_1045480369_o.jpg
[17:19:06] <skunkworks> acad12 -> ace converter :)
[17:27:21] <JT-Shop> tjb1: I have the exact same test indicator
[17:27:41] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop did you get my reply to the logsplitter?
[17:28:04] <JT-Shop> yes
[17:28:15] <JT-Shop> do you still have it?
[17:28:24] <Tom_itx> wasn't sure if gracie called you or not by then :D
[17:28:27] <Tom_itx> no
[17:28:43] <Tom_itx> funny, i've got that last word indicator also
[17:28:55] <JT-Shop> gracie called me and I read it this morning
[17:29:13] <Tom_itx> i'm pretty sure it was 3"
[17:29:19] <Tom_itx> you'll get more power from 4
[17:29:34] <Tom_itx> and i used the smaller of those 2 pumps
[17:29:38] <Tom_itx> 11gpm iirc
[17:30:34] <Tom_itx> that was probably 20+ yrs back
[17:31:30] <AR_> i'm having post partem depression as i am building my machine
[17:31:33] <AR_> as i part with money
[17:31:39] <JT-Shop> http://www.arboristsite.com/firewood-heating-wood-burning-equipment/206143-7.htm
[17:32:30] <Tom_itx> that's not a bad idea
[17:35:46] <Tom_itx> the lift should be on a lever though instead of pumping it
[17:38:04] <JT-Shop> he has a winch, the pump is just to position the boom up or down
[17:39:10] <Tom_itx> i doubt you need the legs either
[17:41:02] <JT-Shop> some of the other photos show it lifting some huge chunks of wood
[17:42:04] <Tom_itx> i had a trunk about that size i ended up halving with the saw first
[17:47:18] <JT-Shop> oh they call that noodling
[17:47:56] <Tom_itx> i thought that was a term for bare hand fishing
[17:49:42] <Tom_itx> i had one once i cut all the way around and still had about a foot in the middle hanging on
[17:50:05] <Tom_itx> 24" bar
[17:52:20] <JunkieHobbo> Howdy all!
[17:52:44] <JunkieHobbo> Looking for some help if anyone is around?
[17:53:05] <Tom_itx> nobody here
[17:53:51] <Tom_itx> you gotta ask to get an answer
[17:54:18] <JunkieHobbo> I have a PueLogic PLC4c-G2 BoB I am testing out, The trouble is with the Parallel Port Pin Setup...I cannot get the Steppers to move!
[17:54:31] <JunkieHobbo> Sry, Long question, Slow typer...
[17:58:09] <AR_> how does one match VFDs to motors?
[17:58:30] <JT-Shop> hp
[17:58:31] <JunkieHobbo> Manual show for Pin 2-5 as STEP1,STEP2,STEP3,STEP4 Pin 6-9 DIR1,DIR2,DIR3,DIR4 Pins 10-13 IN1,IN2,IN3,IN4 , With that I am wondering how the Parallel Port mapping should look in the Setup on LinuxCNC???
[17:59:06] <JT-Shop> the pins should be the same
[17:59:33] <JT-Shop> you might need to invert the pins to get them to work
[18:01:37] <JunkieHobbo> So for PIN 2-4 I have them Set as X Step,Y Step, Z Step, A Step, PIN 6-9 I Have them set as X Dir, Y Dir, Z Dir, A Dir what should PIN 10-13 be set as?
[18:02:21] <JunkieHobbo> I am guessing they will be the Limit Switches...
[18:03:35] <tjb1> 10-13 are inputs
[18:03:50] <tjb1> 1 and 17 are outputs
[18:04:23] <JT-Shop> if you have limit switches
[18:04:37] <JT-Shop> does your bob need an enable pin
[18:05:06] <ReadError> is it possible to fireoff an air compressor at preset intervals?
[18:05:12] <ReadError> if i hooked it to a solenoid
[18:05:24] <ReadError> and had some lockline going out of it
[18:05:28] <ReadError> locline*
[18:05:31] <JunkieHobbo> I have the Enable set to Pin 1
[18:08:04] <Tom_itx> tjb1, something about hyperthread
[18:08:25] <Tom_itx> what's that option in the bios you're supposed to disable for dual core and linuxcnc?
[18:08:37] <Tom_itx> anybody?
[18:09:25] <JT-Shop> dual core is isolcpus
[18:10:02] <JunkieHobbo> I ran the config with invert option on pins and still the same result...
[18:10:18] <Tom_itx> EPP set in the bios?
[18:10:35] <tjb1> JT-Shop: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?The_Isolcpus_Boot_Parameter_And_GRUB2
[18:10:56] <Tom_itx> tjb1, mine seemed to run fine either way
[18:12:13] <Valen> Tom_itx: you should disable hyperthreading
[18:12:25] <Valen> isocpus is kernel stuff
[18:12:32] <Valen> HT screws latency hard
[18:12:34] <Tom_itx> tjb1 got a new board and i forgot what it was called
[18:12:41] <tjb1> d525mw
[18:12:49] <Tom_itx> do you recall where it is in the bios?
[18:13:36] <Valen> HT, dunno
[18:13:42] <Tom_itx> what is S.M.A.R.T. ?
[18:13:44] <Valen> advanced usually
[18:13:52] <Valen> hdd monitoring thing, its good turn it on
[18:14:51] <Tom_itx> it was a 'set it and forget it' thing for me :D
[18:20:23] <Loetmichel> Tom_itx: "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology" selftest an self-health-check oft HDDs
[18:20:42] <Loetmichel> ... so the disk can tell you BEFORE it goes south
[18:20:44] <Valen> i really should have listened to it
[18:20:54] <Valen> lost 1TB of TV due to hdd blowing up
[18:20:59] <Valen> smart tried to warn me
[18:21:14] <Loetmichel> Valen: you ignored it?
[18:21:16] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[18:21:20] <Valen> yeah
[18:21:29] <Valen> eh, was only TV
[18:21:34] <Loetmichel> <- not sorry for you ;-)
[18:21:52] <Valen> still a little crappy, missed a bunch of voyager, with 7 of 9 in it
[18:22:01] <Loetmichel> hmmm
[18:22:02] <Valen> :-<
[18:22:46] <Loetmichel> i am more fan of b'elanna ;-)
[18:23:04] <Valen> I'd watch both of them
[18:23:06] <Valen> together
[18:23:08] <Loetmichel> i like my women with a bit of temper ;-)
[18:23:24] <Valen> b'elanna has to have the klingon face though
[18:23:32] <Valen> she looked so weird in that ep without it
[18:24:55] <Loetmichel> hrhr
[18:25:32] <Loetmichel> btw: anyone knows if its possibe to trick a sky+ receiver into decrypting its harddisk?
[18:25:56] <Loetmichel> would like to see the HD recordings on the Computer in my workspace ;-)
[18:26:49] <Loetmichel> (hdd filled up to 90%, would pity it if i had to delete some series)
[18:28:01] <Valen> nfi
[18:28:04] <Valen> I use mythtv
[18:28:21] <Valen> (i had 4x 1tb drives in it, lost 1 of them)
[18:29:41] <Loetmichel> Valen: sky+ is encryted with a GOOD key
[18:30:03] <Loetmichel> no software possible, not in HD
[18:30:19] <Valen> sucky
[18:30:27] <Valen> I only watch free to air stuff
[18:30:31] <Valen> its pretty good here
[18:30:52] <Loetmichel> we HAVE the keycard. wife is paying the eur30/month...
[18:31:12] <Loetmichel> but the reciver is the only thing that can playback any recordings.
[18:31:22] <Loetmichel> and the harddist kis fully encrypted
[18:32:02] <Valen> I have heard of things that you can plug the card into to decrypt them if you use the computer as the RX
[18:32:16] <ReadError> this vacuum is the best thing i have ever done
[18:32:17] <Loetmichel> and matched to the receiver, so not eveben possible to decrypt on another recieiver
[18:32:30] <Valen> basically its a RX for the PC, you put the paid for card into it and bobs your auntie
[18:32:34] <ReadError> no more standing around with a brush in one hand and a vacuum in the other
[18:32:39] <Valen> why bother having cards
[18:33:19] <Loetmichel> Valen: because its the legal way to look american series in germany ;-)
[18:33:49] <Valen> i meant why bother making a rx and a card that are so bonded to each other
[18:33:57] <Valen> just make the rx with the card built in
[18:34:37] <Loetmichel> because sky has more than one rx (with HDD, without, for SD, for HD, more functions, and so on
[18:34:47] <Loetmichel> and the card operates them all.
[18:35:02] <Valen> what I'm saying is why bother having a seperate card
[18:35:08] <Loetmichel> the encryption on the HDD is a RX thing, not a card thing
[18:35:12] <Valen> just build all that stuff onto the PCB
[18:35:30] <Loetmichel> the RX writes an encrypted format, to wich it has the key somewhere in its flas
[18:35:32] <Loetmichel> h
[18:35:59] <Valen> wow they really are wankers aren't they
[18:36:04] <Valen> beh just torrent it
[18:36:05] <Loetmichel> Valen: so you cvan change the rx witout changing the card
[18:36:11] <Valen> its easier than trying to be legal
[18:36:25] <Loetmichel> that may be so
[18:37:01] <Loetmichel> but: i have the notorious habot to get caught walking a red light. not to mentoin mir servere mishaps...
[18:37:06] <Loetmichel> habit
[18:37:14] <ReadError> get a seedbox
[18:37:17] <Loetmichel> so i better stay legal. ;-)
[18:37:22] <ReadError> you can DL at like 150mbit
[18:37:26] <ReadError> then rsync stuff over
[18:38:11] <Valen> heh nice
[18:38:22] <ReadError> yea i use whatbox.ca
[18:38:35] <ReadError> for linux isos, and other legal stuff of course
[18:38:47] <Loetmichel> ... right
[18:38:47] <Valen> of course
[18:38:49] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[18:39:42] <Loetmichel> as i only have a 16Mbit dsl line here i doubt the DL @ 150Mbt, but ok ;-)
[18:39:53] <ReadError> well, i have 50 here
[18:40:00] <Valen> i think he is saying the 150mbit is to the box?
[18:40:04] <ReadError> but my upload is only 5mbit
[18:40:12] <Valen> hah
[18:40:15] <Valen> <1 here
[18:40:17] <Valen> upload
[18:40:27] <Valen> on dsl I had 6 down
[18:40:51] <Loetmichel> <- 1Mbit up
[18:41:12] <ReadError> i got a fly cutter
[18:41:15] <ReadError> kinda scared to use it though
[18:41:22] <Loetmichel> coward
[18:41:26] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[18:41:47] <Valen> lol
[18:42:04] * Loetmichel used this @ 24krpm-> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5468
[18:42:13] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5471
[18:42:19] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=5474
[18:43:10] <Loetmichel> selfmade disc cutter out of a screw and an old 80mm Sawblade
[18:43:33] <Loetmichel> ... with a 6mm shaft
[18:43:56] <Loetmichel> ... *boy* was i nervous at first run ;-)
[18:44:26] <ReadError> im worried about it flingin the bit out
[18:45:07] <Loetmichel> so tighten it right... and put a 4mm PC window in front (just to be safe) ;-)
[18:46:15] <Loetmichel> a flycutter shouldnt run fast or you have your machien wandering around, so not much energy in the bit IF it goes flying ;-)
[18:46:29] <Valen> lol thats scary Loetmichel
[18:46:50] <Valen> we do stuff like that for robot wars ;->
[18:46:53] <Valen> as weapons
[18:49:35] <Loetmichel> it was great for seperating glued-on workpieces BLOW the work done ;-)
[18:49:39] <Loetmichel> BELOW
[19:11:03] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[19:36:12] <jdh> no.
[19:49:05] <Connor> Frack. Replacing the Diode DIDN't fix my speed controller! :(
[19:49:24] <Valen> blown diode won't often kill a speed controller
[19:49:31] <Valen> assuming its in the output side
[19:49:38] <Valen> usually something else will blow
[19:49:43] <Connor> It's on the control side.. not the driver side.
[19:49:47] <Valen> (fets are often coupled with diodes)
[20:12:23] <ReadError> hey Loetmichel
[20:51:19] <Jymmm> Bah, andy is just a 9 to 5'er... bastard!
[23:31:40] <AR_> i forget if i asked this before
[23:31:55] <AR_> does anyone here have a spindle setup with a VFD?