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[02:43:32] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:43:52] <Jymmm> !!! Merry Christmas !!!
[02:44:16] <DJ9DJ> merry xmas!
[02:44:18] <DJ9DJ> hi Jymmm
[02:45:19] <Jymmm> howdy howdy howdy
[02:52:22] <tjb1> Howdy?
[02:52:34] <DJ9DJ> :)
[02:52:59] <tjb1> I went to bed at 9…woke up thinking it was 6-7…it was 12
[02:53:49] <DJ9DJ> sleepyhead :D
[02:54:34] <tjb1> 9pm - 12am
[02:54:36] <tjb1> 3 hours :P
[02:54:48] <DJ9DJ> oh :/
[02:55:34] <Jymmm> Santa Loves me... http://www.fenixlight.com/viewproduct.asp?id=144
[02:55:57] <Jymmm> mines in all black instead of orange
[02:56:40] <tjb1> I got a laptop…thats the only thing im sure of so far
[02:57:22] <Jymmm> tjb1: We returned it and got you a speak and spell instead
[02:57:34] <tjb1> Oh goody
[02:57:46] <tjb1> I had to stand in line for 3 hours to get said laptop...
[02:57:53] <Jymmm> Uses ONE AA battery and is waterproof IPX8 rated
[02:58:08] <Jymmm> tjb1: Only took 7 minutes to return it
[02:58:46] <Jymmm> tjb1: You waited in line 3h ?
[02:58:59] <tjb1> Its a black friday laptop
[02:59:13] <tjb1> Thats how I know I got it…I'm the one who stood in line
[03:03:12] <Jymmm> tjb1: what is is?
[03:03:25] <Jymmm> tjb1: and how much?
[03:03:39] <tjb1> http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-g6-1d80nr-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B0085RUZ7S
[03:03:42] <tjb1> $299
[03:08:15] <Jymmm> Eh, I really dont know AMD too well, though I did look t up, not bad.
[03:08:56] <tjb1> Should be able to handle sheetcam and whatever is needed for a 3d printer
[03:09:54] <Jymmm> tjb1: Just be aware that laptops are BAD for real time machining
[03:10:02] <tjb1> I know
[03:10:05] <Jymmm> k
[03:10:14] <tjb1> Building a Intel D525MW for that
[03:10:27] <Jymmm> k
[03:10:31] <tjb1> :)
[03:10:43] <tjb1> Got the laptop so I dont have to take my good one into the garage
[03:11:07] <Jymmm> you WILL be able to run VM's on the laptop though, if we dind't return it that is.
[03:11:56] <tjb1> Its getting fresh windows as soon as I open it
[03:12:05] <tjb1> I started it to find out what ram it needed…tons of bloatware
[03:12:21] <Jymmm> tjb1: And you waited three hours in line to buy from Amazon??? SUCKER!!!
[03:13:33] <tjb1> kmart
[03:13:57] <Jymmm> We watched the traditional Christmas Eve movie... Body Snatchers!
[03:15:06] <Jymmm> Heh, I maxed out the ram in my gf's iMac for Christmas =)
[03:15:32] <Jymmm> She watched videos on how to do it long ago.
[03:16:43] <tjb1> How to do what
[03:16:44] <tjb1> ?
[03:16:59] <Jymmm> install the ram in an imac
[03:17:21] <tjb1> suction cups
[03:17:23] <tjb1> and fun
[03:17:47] <Jymmm> No, that's to remove the hdd. and I bought a sucktion cup for that long ago
[03:18:12] <tjb1> You can replace ram without taking the screen off?
[03:18:18] <Jymmm> yep
[03:18:43] <tjb1> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3090951/Screen%20Shot%202012-12-25%20at%204.05.56%20AM.png
[03:19:13] <Jymmm> 16gb
[03:19:35] <tjb1> mine is maxed
[03:20:01] <Jymmm> you have a mac and bought a laptop?
[03:20:13] <tjb1> i have a macbook pro
[03:20:25] <Jymmm> why buy the laptop?
[03:20:41] <tjb1> tjb1: Got the laptop so I dont have to take my good one into the garage
[03:20:41] <tjb1> [03:58am]
[03:20:44] <tjb1> :P
[03:20:57] <Jymmm> ok
[03:21:17] <tjb1> This damn thing cost too much money
[03:21:46] <tjb1> HA, review on amazon was like it include norton security
[03:21:48] <tjb1> Idiot.
[03:22:00] <Jymmm> i7 and max 8gb, seems a waste.
[03:22:24] <tjb1> 2.5 years old now
[03:23:22] <tjb1> its like a 6.5 in windows rating
[03:24:05] <Jymmm> huh?
[03:24:45] <tjb1> the windows rating
[03:24:53] <Jymmm> what is that?
[03:25:28] <tjb1> go to my computer than system roperties
[03:25:41] <Jymmm> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[03:25:58] <tjb1> properties
[03:26:05] <tjb1> then...
[03:26:13] <tjb1> its late
[03:26:28] <Jymmm> Yeah, I get what you're saying.... still funny.
[03:27:07] <Jymmm> It's kinda asking the devil what he wants for his birthday.
[03:27:15] <tjb1> im lost
[03:27:43] <Jymmm> tjb1: "Windows Rating" much less "Windows" itself is a joke these days.
[03:27:54] <tjb1> ill never move to 8
[03:28:15] <Jymmm> XP VM or XPLive
[03:28:38] <tjb1> I like 7
[03:28:43] <Jymmm> anythign beyond that is kinda pointless
[03:29:08] <Jymmm> I've had W7 in a drawer for years, never touched it.
[03:30:13] <tjb1> i need to find out how to dual boot ubuntu onto this new laptop
[03:30:27] <tjb1> it screwed up my windows partition on mac when I tried to triple boot
[03:30:40] <Jymmm> boot camp?
[03:30:59] <tjb1> well I had mountain lion and windows 7 then added ubuntu and it killed windows 7
[03:31:38] <Jymmm> It makes no sense to do all that when you have an i7 and can just run VM's
[03:31:47] <tjb1> I hate parallels
[03:32:06] <tjb1> Its all screwy when using solidworks in it
[03:32:06] <Jymmm> there's also vmware and irtualbox
[03:32:20] <tjb1> I tried virtual bo
[03:32:22] <tjb1> box
[03:32:40] <tjb1> almost used that "switch from parallels to vmware" promotion but decided not to
[03:34:09] <Jymmm> Well, to run M$ on bare metal is just stupid these days. There are so many benefits to running VM
[03:34:51] <Jymmm> If you have issues with VM, you should see what others are doing.
[03:35:05] <tjb1> I might try again after school is done
[03:35:22] <tjb1> I got my SSD when they were pretty new so I only have 120gb in my macbook
[03:35:49] <Jymmm> so? delete the pr0n
[03:36:40] <tjb1> no pr0n on it
[03:37:38] <tjb1> bout time for bed, tv is starting to suck
[03:38:24] <Jymmm> lol, it started to suck 30 years ago. G'Night =)
[03:38:51] * Jymmm hugs his 8TB NAS box =)
[03:39:37] <tjb1> after 3am its nothing but infomercials
[03:39:51] <Jymmm> Netflix or pbs
[03:40:08] <tjb1> we dont have highspeed at home except when im home with my phone
[03:40:18] <Jymmm> ah
[03:41:49] <tjb1> Yeah, Verizon blows.
[03:42:17] <tjb1> Ok, I'm out. Long day ahead… Merry Christmas Jymmm
[03:42:29] <Jymmm> tjb1: Merry Christmas
[08:28:43] <IchGuckLive> hi all around the world and merry X-mas
[08:44:09] <Jymmm> Merry Christmas!
[08:44:20] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: Are you always in Finland?
[08:45:08] <awallin-mobile> mostly yes...
[08:45:21] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: Ah, I just didn't realize it =)
[08:46:33] <tjb1> Jymmm: I never made it back to sleep…going to be a long day
[08:46:42] <awallin-mobile> trying irc on my phone... might be connected differently than normally..
[08:47:25] <Jymmm> tjb1: Eat lots of Christmas dinner all day long, that'll help keep you awake =)
[08:47:41] <tjb1> Yeah turkey = instant tired
[08:48:34] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: new toy?
[08:48:42] <tjb1> I could be napping right now but im trying to update this laptop
[08:48:56] <Jymmm> lol
[08:49:04] <tjb1> Gotta babysit windows update
[08:49:21] <Jymmm> tjb1: You are keeping Win8 ?
[08:49:35] <tjb1> No I installed a clean version of win 7
[08:49:43] <tjb1> It had win 7 but it had a bunch of junk on it
[08:49:51] <awallin-mobile> nah 1yr old phone... n9, runs linux
[08:50:15] <awallin-mobile> just drink more coffee ;)
[08:50:32] <tjb1> Im on cup 3 lol
[08:51:22] <tjb1> I tried some "french vanilla" coffee…yeah french vanilla my ass
[08:51:31] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: nice, too bad tjb1 doesn't get the NO WINDOWS hint ;)
[08:51:47] <Jymmm> VM, never bare metal =)
[08:51:49] <tjb1> Its getting ubuntu too!
[08:52:01] <Jymmm> tjb1: No, not too. VM
[08:52:08] <tjb1> Im not that good with linux
[08:52:40] <Jymmm> tjb1: What do you need that you don't have now?
[08:53:00] <tjb1> The computer to download the damn display driver update
[08:53:03] <tjb1> lol
[08:53:21] <Jymmm> tjb1: Nt needed for linux =)
[08:53:53] <tjb1> I think the linux version of sheetcam is lacking :P
[08:54:07] <Jymmm> tjb1: Besides, you have a backup computer already, not like it's your only computer.
[08:54:20] <Jymmm> tjb1: I said VM, just not bare metal
[08:54:21] <tjb1> I have like 4 computers, 2 laptops and 2 desktops now
[08:54:46] <tjb1> Ill install that on linux and once I get used to it I will kill the windows partition
[08:55:40] <tjb1> What VM software do you use on linux?
[08:55:55] <Jymmm> VB is most common
[08:56:03] <tjb1> virtual box?
[08:56:03] <Jymmm> VirtualBox
[08:56:23] <tjb1> See if I can download linuxcnc today
[08:56:30] <awallin-mobile> itunes and garmin-usb connectivity are the ones i use win for...
[08:56:30] <tjb1> I think Verizon has me throttled
[08:56:34] <Jymmm> just check the forums/google to see if there are any quirks
[08:57:40] <tjb1> 25.3GB on my data so far
[08:57:59] <Jymmm> ?
[08:58:12] <tjb1> My phone data plan
[08:58:26] <tjb1> I tether to phone
[08:58:26] <Jymmm> lol
[08:59:00] <tjb1> Had to pay full price for my phone but boy was it worth it
[08:59:13] <Jymmm> how so?
[08:59:48] <tjb1> Had to buy it full price to keep unlimited data
[09:00:13] <Jymmm> to get a replacement phone?
[09:00:21] <archivist> people feel better when they pay more :)
[09:00:21] <tjb1> ?
[09:00:33] <tjb1> My iphone was dying so I had to buy new phone
[09:00:43] <tjb1> If I use upgrade, Verizon kicks me off unlimited data
[09:01:03] <Jymmm> tjb1: how much for the phone and what is it now?
[09:01:19] <tjb1> $600 - Samsung Galaxy S3
[09:01:37] <tjb1> Yes, finally got the display driver
[09:01:54] <Jymmm> 24GB driver???
[09:02:19] <tjb1> What are you talking about?
[09:02:40] <Jymmm> tjb1: 2012-12-25 06:45:12 tjb1: 25.3GB on my data so far
[09:02:58] <tjb1> Yes, I have used 25.3 gb of phone data this month
[09:03:25] <Jymmm> tjb1: You didn't say THIS MONTH, just that you were doing windows update and downloading display driver.
[09:03:59] <IchGuckLive> USA waking up to a paper war at Xmas
[09:04:14] <tjb1> Oh, well thats a huge display driver then
[09:04:41] <IchGuckLive> 65inch display at xmas is fun
[09:04:42] <Jymmm> tjb1: and that's why I asked if it was 24GB???
[09:04:51] <tjb1> No but HP is a prick
[09:05:01] <tjb1> It didnt get the wireless driver with windows update >:(
[09:05:38] <Jymmm> tjb1: Well, just be glad you didn't stand in line 3 hours to buy the computer.
[09:06:08] <tjb1> :)
[09:06:25] <tjb1> Saved $170
[09:06:33] <tjb1> Thats $57 an hour
[09:07:32] <IchGuckLive> an average master value per hourr
[09:07:46] <IchGuckLive> so you are forman mastercheef
[09:08:17] <tjb1> Eh?
[09:08:47] <tjb1> How much do you pay your translator? :P
[09:09:47] <IchGuckLive> oh thay firerd me of my good english
[09:10:06] <tjb1> Post that message in your native language
[09:10:19] <DJ9DJ> hrhr
[09:10:43] <IchGuckLive> Da hast du soviel verdient wie ein Handwerksmeister
[09:10:43] <Tom_itx> gn8 is awake
[09:22:23] <tjb1> IchGuckLive: Since you have so much earned as a master craftsman?
[09:23:47] <IchGuckLive> you can get more then that
[09:27:57] <tjb1> I can get more what?
[09:30:21] <IchGuckLive> money
[09:35:55] <tjb1> I spent 3 hours in line to save $170, thats $57 an hour :P
[09:36:06] <tjb1> and I hope I can make more than that, I have huge student loans to pay off
[09:36:42] <IchGuckLive> what is the pc type
[09:37:09] <tjb1> http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-g6-1d80nr-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B0085RUZ7S
[09:41:29] <IchGuckLive> nice pice
[09:42:41] <tjb1> Hey Jymmm-y, downloaded all updates :)
[09:42:55] <tjb1> Thanks IchGuckLive
[09:43:16] <Jymmm> tjb1: Are you ready to do the 20 reboots now?
[09:43:38] <tjb1> In the middle of that now
[09:43:52] <tjb1> The screen is shat compared to my macbook though
[09:44:16] <tjb1> Its "Assembling Service Pack"
[09:44:27] <Jymmm> lol
[09:44:55] <tjb1> "Do not tap glass, workers scare easily"
[09:45:07] <tjb1> "May result in broken computer"
[09:45:21] <Jymmm> it actually says that?
[09:45:25] <tjb1> Yes
[09:45:30] <Jymmm> *sigh*
[09:45:32] <tjb1> They are assembling the service pack
[09:45:38] <tjb1> :P
[09:46:10] <Jymmm> M$ has sunk to a new low, now it's a kiddie os, and the sadest part of all.... YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY INSTALLING IT!
[09:46:32] <tjb1> Ill come to the dark side soon enough!
[09:46:38] * Jymmm hides his head from the shame this is tjb1
[09:46:49] <tjb1> *that is
[09:47:00] <IchGuckLive> are there still bluescreens on windows
[09:47:04] <tjb1> Yes
[09:47:10] <IchGuckLive> or did they change the color
[09:47:11] <Jymmm> tjb1: You ARE in the darkside, just so blinded that you dont know it!
[09:47:14] <tjb1> Man these workers are slow, still assembling
[09:48:38] <IchGuckLive> youtube today is overwarmed by vid posters
[09:48:52] <Jymmm> tjb1: Better make more coffee
[09:49:00] <IchGuckLive> it takes so long to get the video desembled
[09:51:30] <tjb1> Still going...
[09:51:38] <IchGuckLive> as here 2
[09:52:00] <IchGuckLive> as you say im leaving line and getting prozessed
[09:52:24] <tjb1> Oh its configuring it now
[09:52:48] <IchGuckLive> i got now so many questions on linuxcnc as im not a pro im getting overquestioned
[09:58:52] <tjb1> I think its on restart 4 just for this service pack
[10:04:19] <IchGuckLive> have a nice day im off By
[10:47:22] <JT-Shop> the reduction in smoke and dust is amazing
[11:03:48] <r00t4rd3d> random much?
[11:52:04] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/videos/plasma-10.mp4
[11:58:14] <awallin_> nice.
[11:58:23] <awallin_> with belt-drive, what accuracy do you get?
[11:58:46] <awallin_> is there feedback from the torch every time you plunge down? and during the feed? (to set an accurate z-height?)
[11:58:52] <JT-Shop> as good as a plasma can do
[11:58:58] <JT-Shop> yes
[12:00:15] <awallin_> what gas are you using?
[12:00:35] <JT-Shop> the torch floats and the microswitch is connected to probe input
[12:00:39] <JT-Shop> air
[12:01:33] <awallin_> so you just need the plasma-head, its psu, and a compressor for air?
[12:02:06] <JT-Shop> it's is a Hypertherm 1250
[12:05:42] <JT-Shop> yes a compressor and dryer and a fine filter
[13:06:19] <JT-Shop> quote of the day "All of us are smarter than any one
[13:06:19] <JT-Shop> of us."
[13:06:20] <JT-Shop> Rick Sparber
[13:07:41] <archivist> design by committee :)
[13:45:49] <Tom_itx> not hardly the same
[14:32:27] <mozmck> JT-Shop: here's one to balance your quote: http://despair.com/meetings.html
[14:36:03] <mozmck> :)
[14:40:33] <JT-Shop> lol
[14:42:11] <p0st4L> you guys recommend any online shops to buy router bits from?
[14:57:01] <JT-Shop> any place in the world?
[16:18:28] <kwallace> Hello. Before I get started, has anyone remapped an M code for a collet closer? I don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to.
[16:32:25] <JT-Shop> kwallace: are you using gremlin with master?
[16:32:30] <JT-Shop> and yes
[16:33:04] <kwallace> I'm using 2.6.0~pre
[16:35:36] <JT-Shop> http://pastebin.com/1aKvy5sF and http://pastebin.com/QzzpqrP1
[16:36:55] <kwallace> But linuxcnc it has been fiddled with for back tooling or rather +x to the back side of the spindle. I diffed the different gremlins and the back tool bits seem to not affect gremlin but what gets fed to gremlin.
[16:40:06] <kwallace> What M code did you use? You don't use an O routine?
[16:41:41] <JT-Shop> one is M101 and one is M102
[16:41:52] <JT-Shop> are you using gremlin in master?
[16:44:45] <kwallace> Okay. I did the M100 thing already, but I though I would remap say M44 to make it something like M44 P1 for close and M44 P0 for open.
[16:45:13] <JT-Shop> ok, did you get your view sorted out?
[16:48:31] <kwallace> No the +X was modified to travel North in Gremlin but the soft limit border has +X going South. I think I need to go back the the author of the mod to see if the limit border can be fixed too.
[16:49:35] <cradek> kwallace: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CustomMcodesToHal
[16:50:05] <cradek> kwallace: ideally you'd have an input for "yes it is really closed now like you asked" and this shows you how to wait for it
[16:50:26] <cradek> kwallace: otherwise, it's trivial to do the halcmd sets/setp and just hope for the best and continue...
[16:55:04] <JT-Shop> I thought you used y2 for a back tool lathe in gremlin
[16:55:32] <kwallace> It seems to take a while for the mag flux to drain before the current clutch releases. I have a delay before I engage the new clutch. I haven't thought of a good way to confirm the release yet.
[16:56:43] <kwallace> Y2? If so I haven't seen it so far.
[16:57:20] <JT-Shop> depends on who wrote the python part I guess, but y2 view is for a back tool lathe
[16:58:23] <JT-Shop> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commit;h=09fc8df621bd41ede6cc9a22f6d0a7fde1c4dd4e
[16:59:04] <JT-Shop> so if your using an up to date master it is there
[16:59:20] <t12> bc
[17:00:18] <kwallace> Well, looks like I'll be off the streets for a while longer, looking over the Y2 stuff.
[17:02:15] <kwallace> I've been vacuuming water out of the shop for the last few days, but I had to sleep some time and it got flooded anyway.
[17:02:42] <tjb1> Ho ho ho
[17:04:02] <kwallace> I'm thinking of going to an active system with sumps and pumps below the slab.
[17:07:36] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:14:33] <pcw_home> Merry Christmas and Happy Newtons day Joyful Natalis Solis Invicti
[17:14:49] <tjb1> Thats a mouthful
[17:16:08] <pcw_home> dont want to leave anyone out
[17:18:52] <JT-Shop> lol
[17:19:09] <JT-Shop> kwallace: are you programming the gui?
[17:22:44] <kwallace> No I'm trying to test conversational scripts on real hardware. Some times I get side tracked when things don't go as I expect, which is often when dealing with projects still in development.
[17:23:01] <JT-Shop> you working with Rogge?
[17:23:07] <kwallace> Yes.
[17:23:19] <JT-Shop> just tell him to add the y2 view for you
[17:23:28] <Jymmm> Anyone work on Fords?
[17:23:33] <JT-Shop> he can do that with one line of code
[17:23:56] <tjb1> Whats wrong with your Ford Jymmm
[17:24:09] <Jymmm> tjb1: Cranks, but won't start.
[17:24:11] <JT-Shop> send him that link if he has not noticed it
[17:24:18] <tjb1> That can be a lot of things
[17:24:22] <tjb1> What year
[17:24:23] <JT-Shop> tjb1: see the vid?
[17:24:30] <tjb1> What vid?
[17:25:05] <JT-Shop> the one I posted a while ago
[17:25:26] <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/videos/plasma-10.mp4
[17:25:29] <kwallace> Okay. I'm not sure how that will go because I tend to insist on homing and soft limits and the powers that be may think otherwise.
[17:26:06] <JT-Shop> aye, me too
[17:28:00] <JT-Shop> with a back tool lathe is X reversed so a negitive move is toward you?
[17:29:31] <kwallace> Yes, but as a diameter.
[17:30:37] <tjb1> JT-Shop: Thats nice
[17:30:46] <tjb1> Have you ever done an edge start?
[17:32:25] <JT-Shop> every start in the video is an edge start
[17:32:55] <tjb1> I thought it looked close
[17:33:04] <JT-Shop> kwallace: or radius depending on your settings
[17:33:29] <tjb1> What do you do if you need to cut a hole in something that requires an edge start? drill a hole and edge start that?
[17:33:51] <JT-Shop> tjb1: I was impressed with the reduction in dust and smoke... only a bit of steam now
[17:34:05] <JT-Shop> just do a lead in move
[17:34:30] <tjb1> I thought you had been running a water table for a while
[17:34:44] <JT-Shop> I usually only cut 1/2" or less
[17:34:52] <JT-Shop> yes but it was below the slats
[17:35:03] <JT-Shop> a second thought after design
[17:35:17] <tjb1> If I get enough work for my table I would like to go to a powermax 105
[17:35:31] <JT-Shop> how many amps is that?
[17:35:35] <tjb1> 105
[17:35:51] <JT-Shop> nice, mine is 80
[17:36:36] <tjb1> I'll probably go with the powermax 85 though…the 105 requires 3 phase
[17:36:54] <tjb1> It's available but I don't know how much it will cost to get it to the garage
[17:37:04] <JT-Shop> do you have a plasma now?
[17:37:11] <tjb1> Yeah, the 45
[17:37:27] <JT-Shop> ah yes I remember now
[17:37:37] <JT-Shop> it will cut 1/4"?
[17:37:52] <tjb1> I believe it can do 3/4
[17:37:57] <tjb1> Very slow but it can do it
[17:38:22] <tjb1> Well the book says 1" at 4ipm
[17:38:45] <tjb1> 1/2" and above has edge start
[17:39:32] <tjb1> I got my new laptop today, fresh windows 7 and 8gb of ram
[17:39:43] <tjb1> So far I have sheetcam and draftsight on it
[17:41:42] <JT-Shop> do they call that a sever cut for 1"
[17:42:24] <JT-Shop> sever is a french word for fu***ng UGLY
[17:42:26] <tjb1> The website does, manual doesn't
[17:42:54] <tjb1> 3/4" at 10ipm is decent
[17:43:21] <JT-Shop> have you cut 3/4"?
[17:44:23] <tjb1> Not on the table
[17:44:36] <JT-Shop> by hand?
[17:44:41] <tjb1> I think I have done 5/8
[17:44:45] <tjb1> It was decent
[17:44:52] <JT-Shop> did it come with a drag tip?
[17:44:55] <tjb1> Yep
[17:45:04] <tjb1> I have a drag, gouge and machine tip now
[17:45:45] * JT-Shop ponders drilling the 10 1/2" holes to finish making the unstuckers
[17:46:17] <tjb1> One of the senior projects, the kid drilled, tapped and countersunk 184 holes
[17:46:35] <tjb1> Did like 40 with some stupid hand drill jig than the rest with a magnetic drill
[17:47:13] <tjb1> I get tired of tapping around 10 holes
[17:47:34] <JT-Shop> a good tap makes a world of difference
[17:48:10] <JT-Shop> was he testing the life of the tools or something?
[17:49:03] <tjb1> Frame jig table
[17:49:38] <JT-Shop> ah
[17:53:15] <JT-Shop> http://imagebin.org/240616
[17:53:30] <tjb1> What are those?
[17:53:44] <tjb1> At first I thought they were used on the frame for axle clearance
[17:53:44] <JT-Shop> it's a tool
[17:54:23] <JT-Shop> the arms under the bases pivot on the hole that is not in the base yet when you hit it with a hammer
[17:54:41] <JT-Shop> it unjams a nail gun on pallet making equipment
[17:55:33] <tjb1> How do you get all these cool jobs?
[17:56:13] <JT-Shop> here is one assembled http://imagebin.org/240617
[17:57:28] <JT-Shop> dunno, this guy knows me and knows everyone in the pallet business...
[18:01:49] <tjb1> How much work did you do for those engines?
[18:02:31] <JT-Shop> for Briggs?
[18:03:00] <JT-Shop> or I don't understand the question
[18:03:53] <tjb1> Ive seen the thing for attaching the shroud or something and then the brake tester
[18:04:37] <tjb1> Anyone here happen to be experienced in bowling?
[18:04:48] <JT-Shop> yes, that is for Briggs and Stratton and I do most of my work for them
[18:05:04] <tjb1> That sounds like an awesome job
[18:05:08] <JT-Shop> used to be a long long long time ago
[18:05:12] <JT-Shop> yea it is
[18:05:59] <JT-Shop> my first game was ok, the second was stellar and the last was terrible... funny how beer works
[18:07:22] <r00t4rd3d> normally works the opposite for me.
[18:07:58] <r00t4rd3d> I cant play darts sober worth a shit but half loaded I can
[18:08:03] <tjb1> What do you look for when buying a ball?
[18:08:15] <r00t4rd3d> its got another attached
[18:08:30] <tjb1> >:(
[18:08:33] <r00t4rd3d> or that it weights
[18:08:39] <r00t4rd3d> -t
[18:08:41] <jdh> r00t: I would start out bad, get better after a few beers, then back downhill again after a dozen or so.
[18:09:35] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, no really just make sure its good stuff and not cut with a pile of baby laxative.
[18:09:53] <tjb1> not cut with baby laxative?
[18:10:30] <r00t4rd3d> didnt figure you would get it
[18:10:48] <r00t4rd3d> i doubt many in here would
[18:11:02] <jdh> in theory only, of course.
[18:14:58] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrbv40ENU_o
[18:21:04] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZR3lJobjw
[18:27:44] <pcw_home> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGptO6j3G-U
[18:27:46] <pcw_home> Always liked this one
[18:30:57] <tjb1> You guys wouldn't like what I listen to
[18:34:52] <jthornton> yea, that is one of my favorites from Tom
[18:36:58] <tjb1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBMT3OMEPwk
[19:20:01] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlbcObiXyzE
[19:24:29] <tjb1> Very nice skunkworks
[21:49:24] <skunkworks2> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/linuxcnc_formerly_emc2/170252-call_file_variable_within_file.html