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[00:04:37] <r00t4rd3d> your envy
[00:10:24] <tjb1> lulz
[00:10:40] <tjb1> are those real speakers or is that just one of those amplifier boxes?
[00:10:56] <r00t4rd3d> hollow box
[00:11:06] <r00t4rd3d> like your head
[00:11:08] <r00t4rd3d> :)
[00:11:59] <tjb1> cheap shots huh
[00:12:10] <r00t4rd3d> I was expecting you to be eating twinkies in your video
[00:12:33] <r00t4rd3d> "THC is working..."
[00:12:48] <tjb1> twinkies huh?
[00:15:12] <tjb1> I would get into the details but you might get confused :P
[00:15:43] <roh> meh.. i guess i'm gonna hunt for d525mw on ebay then *sigh*
[00:16:53] <tjb1> roh:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200542103383?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
[00:17:16] <r00t4rd3d> i got mine from him too
[00:17:20] <roh> tjb1: thats 40$ shipping. i'm in europe
[00:17:33] <tjb1> Well thats unfortunate
[00:17:48] <r00t4rd3d> newegg has them too, do they have international warehouse?
[00:17:54] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: how do you turn your router on?
[00:18:04] <r00t4rd3d> my thumb normally.
[00:18:24] <tjb1> Wow, couldnt integrate that? :P
[00:18:38] <r00t4rd3d> no need to overly complicate things
[00:18:48] <r00t4rd3d> the switch works just fine
[00:19:04] <tjb1> 3 months until chinese new year…get all your orders in
[00:19:35] <r00t4rd3d> i could probably do it with a arduino and a powertail switch
[00:20:16] <tjb1> powertail eh
[00:20:36] <tjb1> $26!
[00:20:38] <r00t4rd3d> makes it easier and sealed
[00:21:03] <tjb1> Do you need to switch all 3 wires?
[00:21:17] <r00t4rd3d> nah just 1
[00:22:13] <r00t4rd3d> just like hooking it upto a common light switch
[00:22:26] <tjb1> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290739764281?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[00:22:28] <tjb1> Done.
[00:22:40] <r00t4rd3d> make a hal on/off button that sends a high/low to the arduino.. is that possible?
[00:22:47] <tjb1> I imagine
[00:22:55] <roh> fsck. that doesnt work out.
[00:23:03] <roh> i need dvi video anyhow.
[00:23:11] <tjb1> Through the parallel port r00t4rd3d ?
[00:23:29] <r00t4rd3d> could be
[00:23:54] <tjb1> I have to use 5v relays with my cnc4pc BOB
[00:24:12] <tjb1> Good thing I have 2 outputs on the g540
[00:24:42] <r00t4rd3d> you see i comment in your thread lol
[00:24:44] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: just buy that relay
[00:25:42] <tjb1> $8 vs $26
[00:26:21] <r00t4rd3d> can you switch that with just the parallel port?
[00:27:04] <r00t4rd3d> id rather do that for the vacuum
[00:27:05] <tjb1> no
[00:27:34] <tjb1> what BOB are you using?
[00:27:43] <r00t4rd3d> wtf is bob
[00:27:46] <r00t4rd3d> bobs not here
[00:32:20] <tjb1> break.out.board
[00:32:41] <r00t4rd3d> tb6560
[00:33:10] <r00t4rd3d> i have a spindle control on that lol
[00:33:17] <tjb1> big fan of ebay parts arent you
[00:33:28] <r00t4rd3d> i forgot, its only like 36v or something
[00:34:23] <tjb1> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300410191798
[00:36:38] <tjb1> thats a nice wiring diagram
[00:39:15] <abetusk> what is a spoilboard?
[00:39:34] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: "The PCB even has a Relay interface so you can control a 120V - 220V spindle with Mach3 or EMC."
[00:39:43] <tjb1> the surface of cnc routers
[00:39:48] <tjb1> oftten cut into
[00:40:37] <tjb1> Usually a sheet of mdf that is placed and then the router faces the whole sheet to make a surface that is flat
[00:41:29] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: you should have your router plumbed in now
[00:43:13] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[00:43:31] <tjb1> evenin'
[00:44:45] <Loetmichel> tjb1: depends on your point of living, i think. $me has just gotten up, morning coffee is brewing...
[00:45:01] <abetusk> what is mean for a router to face a whole sheet?
[00:45:07] <tjb1> its 1:30am here
[00:45:10] <Loetmichel> its 07:33 over here ;)
[00:45:13] <tjb1> abetusk: To cut the whole sheet
[00:45:19] <abetusk> to level it?
[00:45:27] <tjb1> yes
[00:45:31] <abetusk> ah, thank you
[00:46:27] <Loetmichel> MDF does not really like cooling fluids, though
[00:46:48] <Loetmichel> but i had used it as sacrifical plate beneath the workepiece also
[00:47:09] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4935
[00:47:16] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4938
[00:47:21] <tjb1> most people that use mdf probably arent cutting anything that requires cutting fluid :P
[00:47:57] <tjb1> I want to throw water on r00t4rd3d's router and watch it expand :D
[00:48:57] <Loetmichel> the rectangle pattern is serving a dual pourpose: knowing you had mounted your workpiece straight to the edge AND allowing airflow beneath the workpiece, so the vacuum can get the swarf out
[00:49:22] <tjb1> Loetmichel: did you know you can suck a vacuum through mdf?
[00:49:23] <Loetmichel> tjb1: bah, you're bad!
[00:49:42] <Loetmichel> tjb1: not enought for the dust vacuum ti operate
[00:49:44] <Loetmichel> to
[00:49:57] <Loetmichel> and yes, i know.
[00:50:06] <tjb1> not for dust but some use it for vacuum holding
[00:50:16] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/hajo/vakuumFEST.avi
[00:50:20] <Loetmichel> me too
[00:51:01] <tjb1> video wont load for me
[00:58:56] <Loetmichel> tjb1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJmBF8HzWoc
[00:58:58] <Loetmichel> better?
[00:59:46] <Loetmichel> underneath the 5mm MDF it looks loke this:
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=8214
[01:01:54] <tjb1> laser cut?
[01:02:06] <Loetmichel> cnc milled
[01:02:51] <tjb1> How big of a vacuum is that?
[01:03:02] <Loetmichel> the support box is made of 1/4" and 1/8" melamin reinforced paper (FR2)
[01:03:18] <Loetmichel> vacuum cleaner, about -0,3 Bar
[01:04:40] <tjb1> too late at night for metric :)
[01:04:49] <tjb1> ill figure that out in the morning
[01:05:47] <Loetmichel> tjb1: ask google: about -4,5 psi
[01:06:34] <tjb1> How thick is your top on the vacuum box
[01:06:40] <Loetmichel> 5mm
[01:06:49] <Loetmichel> just a bit below 1/4"
[01:07:40] <Loetmichel> and faced over both sides a few tenths to get the pores open
[01:08:27] <tjb1> I dont have room for a box like that on mine…I do have enough extrusion to make a small router
[01:10:07] <tjb1> im out, good night all
[01:10:20] <Loetmichel> *shi**... its 07:55 over here... have to be in the company at 08:00... and have a ~15min commute... *pours down his coffe, running to be at least not much late...
[01:14:03] <psha> Loetmichel: hm, 11:01 here, have to be in the company at 9:00...
[01:14:42] * psha making another cup of tee since already too much late
[01:53:08] <Loetmichel> psha: hrhr
[01:53:56] <Loetmichel> <- arrived at the company... its bad that i have a commute where the traffic jams every morning
[01:54:07] <Loetmichel> and no way around
[02:09:12] <r00t4rd3d> http://qoou.net/images/2012/11/20/0Elx.jpg
[02:09:15] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[02:17:14] <Loetmichel> ?
[02:20:22] <r00t4rd3d> mitt romney
[02:20:45] <r00t4rd3d> taken yesterday
[02:32:04] <Loetmichel> ah.
[02:32:27] <Loetmichel> <- german, so i dont recognized him,
[02:32:54] <Loetmichel> but why shouldnt he get fuel like everybody else?
[02:33:05] <Loetmichel> s/dont/didnt
[04:56:16] <DJ9DJ> moin
[05:03:37] <mazafaka> moin
[08:10:52] <FinboySlick> Good morning everyone!
[08:13:29] <jdh> GOOD $TIME_OF_DAY to you SIR.
[09:55:25] <archivist> hmm lots of axes
https://www.apexauctions.co.uk/auction/itemDetails.htm?lotId=88499&utm_source=Pure&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Witzig_&_Frank
[10:04:05] <mazafaka> are they really needed? For some sort of details maybe...
[10:05:09] <pcw_home> Hmm thats a little on the big side
[10:36:36] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[13:16:16] <IchGuckLive> heavy posting today O.O
[13:17:02] <yoyoek1> hi
[13:17:15] <IchGuckLive> Hi
[13:26:14] <yoyoek1> new release of mgcodegenerator :) big improvement in 3d bake :) and pockets
[13:27:06] <IchGuckLive> does this run under 10.04
[13:27:45] <yoyoek1> if you have blender 2.49b then yes
[13:28:08] <IchGuckLive> oh on 2.49b this is realy old stuff
[13:28:18] <IchGuckLive> 2.64 inside
[13:28:38] <yoyoek1> you can have both versions parallel
[13:28:51] <IchGuckLive> i know i got them all
[13:29:07] <IchGuckLive> where is the new script
[13:29:45] <yoyoek1> aa :) ye one sec :P
[13:30:23] <IchGuckLive> oh you are the one that is writing it
[13:30:28] <yoyoek1> ok corrected
[13:30:58] <yoyoek1> yes I'm autor
[13:31:01] <IchGuckLive> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GcodeGenerator
[13:31:09] <yoyoek1> author
[13:31:28] <IchGuckLive> 0.2.09
[13:33:05] <IchGuckLive> there is a dead link
http://yoyo.ghost.pl/mgcodegenerator.html
[13:33:35] <yoyoek1> it working for me
[13:33:46] <yoyoek1> you don't have button for donation ?
[13:34:06] <IchGuckLive> ah a little one i see
[13:34:38] <yoyoek1> for small beer :)
[13:34:52] <IchGuckLive> is the 09 the lattest
[13:35:32] <yoyoek1> 0.2.09 i release it today
[13:35:54] <IchGuckLive> i will compare to my heeks with simba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtymMSJy8AA
[13:36:06] <IchGuckLive> ok then i check it tomorrow
[13:38:48] <yoyoek1> that heeks loop pro :)
[13:39:02] <yoyoek1> looks
[16:16:15] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:52:34] <andypugh> Hmm, worth a punt? (not as-described)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140889913857
[17:56:02] <Tom_itx> 30 taper?
[17:56:05] <Tom_itx> looks like it
[17:56:21] <andypugh> Looks like some 30INT, some BT30, and some foreigners
[17:57:56] <andypugh> archivist:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CVA-lathe-parts-Schaublin-Traub-Help-needed-to-identify-parts-please-/150948403384?pt=UK_Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item232539d8b8
[18:26:57] <JT-Shop> yea! water tank works on the plasma
[18:38:39] <Tom_itx> woo hoo!
[18:40:39] <JT-Shop> no more jerry cans
[19:08:35] <archivist> andypugh, they look like parts from an automatic
[19:08:57] <andypugh> I think he says that much.
[19:09:27] <andypugh> I thought they looked like a bargain, but actually it's a non-auction with him fishing for information.
[19:09:45] <archivist> yup, I saw that
[19:10:36] <andypugh> I am torn between the abuse of eBay and the fact it is actually quite a good way to find out what they are.
[19:10:45] <archivist> as bits they might be useful, almost looks like the right mount/similar to the mount on my bechler
[19:11:11] <andypugh> Aye, I thought that they looked like some of your bits.
[19:11:57] <archivist> but different enough that they could be off a wickman
[19:13:33] <andypugh> They are certainly the nicest ones of what they are that I have ever seen.
[19:15:17] <archivist> the top left item is a two position drill, I have a three position one for my machine
[19:16:07] <andypugh> Top-right looks like a live tool of some sort
[19:16:49] <andypugh> lathes.co.uk might be the right place to ask
[19:17:25] <archivist> bit may well be off a Tornos
[19:19:17] <andypugh> <giggle> A friend just said "Apple has patented Christmas"
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20392386
[19:32:05] <archivist> patents get funnier
https://www.techdirt.com/blog/innovation/articles/20121116/02165221072/patent-office-perhaps-forgetting-what-year-it-is-locks-down-mobile-app-development-platforms.shtml
[19:32:41] <archivist> I watch groklaw :)
[19:36:41] <PCW> Ive been watching groklaw since the SCO fiasco
[19:37:31] <archivist> and me, I even contributed once or twice
[19:37:49] <archivist> till my login failed one day
[19:38:41] <PCW> That reminds me to take a look at investorvillage's sco page
[19:45:04] <andypugh> Have you ever seen an old steam engine with this instead of a crank:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/elsie/2198525390/in/set-72157613636157609 That is because the crank was patented.
[19:46:56] <andypugh> And then there was the Selden Patents, he patented the idea of a carriage driven by an engine and tried to claim a royalty from every car manufacturer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_B._Selden
[19:53:50] <archivist> prior art
http://www.collection.archivist.info//searchv13.php?searchstr=glasgow+drag
[19:54:54] <andypugh> I didn't know there was anyhting left of the Steam Drag
[19:55:26] <andypugh> Wasn't that 1780 or thereabouts?
[19:56:10] <andypugh> Ah, no, 1830.
[19:56:54] <andypugh> The servo-steering is cleverer than it looks.
[19:58:20] <andypugh> Gugnot had a self-propelled steam engine in 1769. That might have been what I was thinking of.
[20:00:38] <andypugh> I meant Cugnot, of course.
[20:00:51] <archivist> I was just searching my mail about the Gurney which reminds me of
http://www.rug.nl/museum/collecties/wsn/natuurkunde
[20:01:12] <andypugh> Wikipedia says that he didn't use cranks either, but ratchets.
[20:04:02] <andypugh> That's lovely!
[20:04:47] <andypugh> One tends to forget that electricity was much earlier than the stuff that happened at the end of the 19thC
[20:13:47] <andypugh> I first heard of the Gurney at Kew Bridge. I suspect you might have too>
[20:15:03] <archivist> I first heard of the gurney when I took that picture up in Glasgow, seems Trevithick was up to something in 1804
http://unitedcats.wordpress.com/2007/06/28/what-in-the-name-of-god-is-that/
[20:21:45] <andypugh> I differ from the author in one respect, I would _love_ to ride in that Trevithick replica
[20:23:31] <andypugh> I can't decide if that Gurney warrants restoratiion. It's right on the cusp between too far gone, and enough left.
[20:24:09] <andypugh> I think I would go for a good clean and a perspex model of the rest of the machine in that case.
[20:28:20] <archivist> I did a google image search and it seems they have mounted it on stilts at its working height since I saw it
[20:30:09] <archivist> http://www.travellingeuropewithkids.com/week-21-scotland-glasgow/
[20:32:00] <andypugh> Seems to be in a box with wheels drawn on, which is close to my suggestion
[21:05:54] <RoyOnWheels> any homemade waterjets?
[21:11:24] <jdh> not likely
[21:12:27] <RoyOnWheels> you'll blast your eye out, eh
[21:14:03] <jdh> it would be cool
[22:04:59] <icee> hey.. i'm having trouble running multiple axis instances ... i get an error message HAL: ERROR: duplicate component name 'axisui'
[22:05:11] <icee> but the manual discusses this/claims this is OK
[22:05:50] <icee> this is on 2.4.6 with (obviously) axis
[22:06:21] <Jymmm> axis are numbered starting at ZERO, not ONE. verify this in you setup.
[22:06:38] <icee> not like, axis like a machine axis.. axis like the UI.
[22:06:58] <icee> i want to have a machine status via remote X on another monitor
[22:08:08] <icee> i'm referring to
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Running_Multiple_User_Interfaces on the wiki, among other sources
[22:21:57] <skunkworks> icee: you might want to ask this on the mailing list.
[22:23:41] <icee> skunkworks: thanks.. i'll probably just cope/nuke that wiki page
[22:48:47] <Aero-Tec> hi
[22:49:08] <Aero-Tec> bought a new motor for the lathe
[22:49:33] <Aero-Tec> it was not the ideal motor, in fact it is being a real pain to put in
[22:50:58] <Aero-Tec> if I was not in a hurry to get lathe running I would have been far further ahead going 3 phase and a VFD
[23:44:17] <Tecan> http://i.imgur.com/i3STw.gif
