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[02:07:23] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:32:08] <Pilla_CNCpc> Hello! How do I turn off the requirement to be homed to issue MDI commands? (Don't have home/limit switches)
[02:37:30] <archivist> there is a setting in the ini file if I remember
[02:39:35] <archivist> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini_config.html see no_force_homing
[02:54:01] <Pilla_CNCpc> Thank you
[04:17:06] <Pilla_CNCpc> Is there an easy method of getting the coordinates of a point (relative to work piece) on the .ngc file? As in, if I think logically I can trace back what the coordinates are, but isn't there an easy way? (like, hover over the point and get the coordinates)
[05:47:08] <Loetmichel> mornin
[05:55:43] <Pilla_CNCpc> morning :)
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[07:08:40] <r00t4rd3d> GET OFF MY LAWN!
[08:03:26] <r00t4rd3d> this look okay?
http://i.imgur.com/cP7QA.jpg
[08:26:09] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSXR3FsN0EE
[08:32:14] <alex_joni> skunkworks: nice
[08:40:03] <jthornton> skunkworks, that tool changer is exactly like the one on my Discovery 308 VMC
[08:40:20] <jthornton> be nice to get a copy of the config files for that one
[08:40:31] <skunkworks> I wonder if he used the gcode remapping...
[08:40:40] <skunkworks> (motion during tool change)
[08:43:28] <skunkworks> I don't recognize the screen
[08:44:11] <skunkworks> it is ubuntu
[08:47:29] <alex_joni> hmm, no issues reported for kunena
[08:47:38] <alex_joni> (other than the one fixed yesterday)
[08:50:28] <skunkworks> seems to run ok...
[08:51:25] <jthornton> everything seems fine to me on the forum... I'm even getting used to the strange colors LOL
[08:59:21] <skunkworks> heh
[09:01:19] <jthornton> attachments is pretty cool and works a lot better than before
[09:01:29] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/34-test-here/25776-attachment-test#25844
[09:05:22] <alex_joni> jthornton: I can tweak the colors if you want
[09:09:10] <r00t4rd3d> jthornton did the upgrades help with spammers at all?
[09:21:17] <jthornton> alex_joni, where do you do that?
[09:21:25] <jthornton> r00t4rd3d, killed them dead
[09:33:39] <jdh> then you know more about it than I do.
[10:09:56] <alex_joni> jthornton: kunena administration
[10:22:47] <JT-Shop> alex_joni: ?
[10:23:35] <skunkworks> for changing colors I assume...
[10:26:28] <JT-Shop> ah yes
[10:38:12] <kwallace> If I have a CD install then do a run-in-place install can the two installs live together?
[10:39:40] <skunkworks> yes
[10:42:36] <kwallace> Okay, I'll go ahead and try it. I suppose one difference will be that I need to start the run-in-place version from a command line from the run-in-place directory?
[10:42:56] <JT-Shop> or you can have a script to start it up
[10:43:42] <Tom_itx> morning peeps
[10:43:48] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: you can go to kunena administration, then theme manager
[10:43:52] <alex_joni> and edit the current theme
[10:43:58] <JT-Shop> ok thanks
[10:44:02] <alex_joni> but currently all files are read-only, so it won't work ;)
[10:44:02] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, have you lit a fire in the fireplace yet?
[10:44:15] <skunkworks> I think the config chooser will also allow you to create a icon on the desktop for rip..
[10:44:20] <JT-Shop> no, shop is sill warm from yesterday
[10:46:23] <kwallace> Okay, I'll check on the config chooser. Thanks.
[12:06:27] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MATTEL-POWER-SHOP-ELECTRIC-LATHE-TOY-c-1964-/221072100680?pt=Vintage_Antique_Toys_US&hash=item3378ec8d48
[12:06:44] <L84Supper> circa 1964 Mattel Power Shop - Electric Lathe toy
[12:07:30] <jdh> a couple of nema 17's, some plastic acme screws...
[12:08:52] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vtg-1965-Mattel-Power-Shop-Almost-Complete-w-Instructions-Plans-4-Tools-in-1-/300800934782?pt=Vintage_Antique_Toys_US&hash=item460922037e
[12:09:03] <L84Supper> Four Tools in One Mattel real Power Shop--including Drill Press-Jigsaw-Disc Sander and Lathe
[12:19:33] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[12:37:08] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: Wow, I'd have so wanted one of those as a kid.
[12:38:00] <FinboySlick> It's a shame that the government would take your kids away if you bought one nowadays.
[12:38:35] <L84Supper> heh, yeah, I don't recall ever seeing the Mattel power Shop as a kid....
[12:39:01] <L84Supper> but we used to drool at the case full of mini steam engines
[12:39:48] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: Teaching kids that building stuff is cooler than blowing them up on the TV.
[12:40:27] <archivist> I still have my Mamod steam engine I got waaaaaay back
[12:45:15] <archivist> mine is not as shiny
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAMOD-STATIONARY-SUPER-HEATED-GENUINE-TWIN-ENGINE-S-E-3-CIRCA-1960s-/230866437813?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item35c0b646b5
[13:05:56] <tjb1> http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/30761_4505567873259_2108216470_n.jpg
[13:09:47] <IchGuckLive> archivist: nice price
[13:10:27] <archivist> that is over restored and over priced
[13:16:12] <pcw_home> wouldn't even want to run it, it might mar the paint
[13:16:41] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Mamod-Steam-Engine-for-Spares-or-Restoration-/380493219213?pt=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item589729c58d
[13:17:23] <L84Supper> this looks nice
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-MAMOD-Live-Steam-Engine-Toy-1950s-Brass-Boiler-Mounted-Excellent-/321004958712?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item4abd62f3f8
[13:17:29] <tjb1> 50k challenge -
http://hackaday.com/2012/10/26/find-a-way-to-stop-robocalls-to-grab-this-50k-prize
[13:21:45] <tjb1> I got spanked pretty good having that water table bent…they charged me for 2.75 hours labor
[13:34:43] <jdh> you usually only pay for 1 hour of spanking?
[13:35:05] <archivist> he liked it!
[13:36:28] <IchGuckLive> archivist: nice
[13:36:40] <IchGuckLive> X-mas sale is up
[13:36:43] <IchGuckLive> http://www.wabeco-remscheid.de/
[13:37:02] <IchGuckLive> lots of stuff nice price
[13:37:42] <archivist> when I see wabeco prices over here I run...
[13:38:11] <tjb1> I had the sheet already cut to size and notched…it took them 2.75 hours to bend 4 sides...
[13:38:16] <tjb1> At $50 an hour im not happy
[13:38:46] <archivist> did theu have to program the chalk mark to bend it too
[13:39:01] <jdh> how thick?
[13:39:07] <tjb1> 12 gauge
[13:39:26] <tjb1> What archivist ?
[13:39:39] <IchGuckLive> by its snowing outasiede
[13:39:41] <archivist> did they have to change the bender dies
[13:39:47] <IchGuckLive> B) O.O ,-)
[13:40:05] <tjb1> They didnt have a finger brake…the guy said something about having to cut a piece of 2.5" square tubing or something to do it
[13:41:06] <andypugh> I can see your point, but I can see their point too. I can't be bothered doing any sort of one-off for <£100
[13:41:50] <tjb1> I think I know what the issue is, my dad called yesterday about seeing if I needed an appointment and the woman said "So you bought the steel somewhere else but want us to bend it?"
[13:42:06] <tjb1> They are assholes :)
[13:42:18] <tjb1> And I shall be taking part of their business soon anyway so I will get over it
[13:43:20] <tjb1> I know they dont buy enough steel to buy direct from the mill so they would be buying from the same place I bought it from or a place like it, then they would likely add another $50 to the price of the material...
[13:45:36] <tjb1> The guy in front of me was ordering number/letter stamps though…poor guy
[13:51:32] <jdh> how about a couple of 4x4's and a big hammer?
[13:52:22] <tjb1> I didnt know it was going to be $137…they said 50-100
[14:05:01] <L84Supper> huh, most of the small cnc sheet metal fabricators around here would be happy if I pulled up with material for them to just bend and cut....
[14:05:38] <L84Supper> they wouldn't want to bother with ordering a few sheets and delivery
[14:07:36] <tjb1> This wasnt a CNC shop, just a holes that want to make a buck off every step
[14:07:51] <tjb1> Probably been 250 if I didnt cut it to size and notch it too
[14:09:02] <tjb1> Only shop in the area that could handle a 10ft sheet and do box bending
[14:12:50] <archivist> you could build up the shape with welded sides
[14:14:13] <tjb1> Thought about that but Its 113" long and 66" wide
[14:31:12] <L84Supper> shett metal fabrication in China is much more lower cost, the shipping costs and times are much higher though to the US :)
[14:31:26] <L84Supper> same thing for sheet metal
[15:02:27] <skunkworks> angle?
[15:06:51] <archivist> http://www.metals4u.co.uk/metal%20angle/1762/products.asp
[15:45:41] <JT-Shop> r00t4rd3d: did you say you advertized on craigslist?
[15:47:42] <_ink> http://imgur.com/gallery/AGEQN !
[15:49:23] <tom3p> _ink, is that extrusion technology? whats the diameter if so?
[15:49:57] <andypugh> Is that coloured after the fact, or printed in colour, I wonder?
[15:50:02] <JT-Shop> I was afraid to look
[15:50:12] <_ink> not sure, someone just sent me the link
[15:50:22] <tom3p> (and 5 colors at least, maybe able to make colors on fly )
[15:50:36] <_ink> maybe one of those zcorp plaster printers?
[15:50:39] <_ink> I think they do color now
[15:51:40] <andypugh> I have a corn-starch V8 on my desk in that same shade of green, thinking about it.
[15:51:41] <tom3p> oh i see, its a really big penny that was printed :)
[15:52:36] <andypugh> tom3p:
http://www.petapixel.com/2011/08/18/large-objects-shot-as-miniatures-using-a-giant-coin-and-tilt-shift-effects/
[15:54:01] <tom3p> haha "i am king fsking montezuma and this is the coin of my realm' (catcher in the rye)
[15:54:13] <cradek> andypugh: I love those photos
[15:54:38] <andypugh> It's a great take on tilt/shift photography isn't it?
[15:55:15] <r00t4rd3d> they sent me that coin model
[15:57:17] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.skrekkogle.com/Shopimages/50c_euro.STL
[15:57:23] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13757
[16:16:17] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:24:37] <andypugh> People I vaguely know keep endorsing my skills on LinkedIn at things I don't even understand the acronyms for!
[16:25:55] <jdh> you must be really good.
[16:32:37] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bSXR3FsN0EE
[16:32:51] <skunkworks> he works for tormach :)
[16:33:47] <skunkworks> ok maybe not.. lomach ;)
[16:33:50] <cradek> it's a collet chuck bathing machine
[16:34:06] <skunkworks> read that too fast
[16:34:48] <andypugh> cradek: Perhaps an under-exploited niche
[16:35:14] <jdh> we could use a collet polishing machine
[16:36:01] <andypugh> We had one of those machines at a place I worked. It was forever breaking down. I wish I knew then what I know now.
[16:36:06] <alex_joni> skunkworks: at least it's not mach
[16:38:21] <andypugh> <baffled>
http://pastebin.com/QtPgD4Lw
[16:38:51] <andypugh> There is no function "cleanup_module" in that file..
[16:43:01] <jdh> what else are you linking against
[16:44:24] <andypugh> http://pastebin.com/UbpyiUsL
[16:44:35] <jdh> or any multiple #includes?
[16:46:04] <jdh> you have to have init & cleanup for all kernel modules. They are in there somewhere.
[16:47:47] <andypugh> I am sure you are right. This was a userspace module 30 minutes ago
[16:48:04] <andypugh> But that wasn't looking like it could work
[16:56:05] <andypugh> Actually, can anyone answer this question for me: Is it likely that a Userspace HAL component would be able to poke about in a live kernel space driver struct if it had a pointer to it?
[16:58:11] <andypugh> (I might go back to "comp" for this.
[16:59:54] <alex_joni> poke about as in read?
[17:00:07] <alex_joni> halcmd does that all the time..
[17:02:36] <andypugh> It needs to be able to send values to hm2->llio->write (which is low-level hardware writes)
[17:02:59] <alex_joni> that I can't answer directly
[17:03:10] <alex_joni> but I think you need a shm, and some mutexes
[17:03:24] <alex_joni> and handle the write from the rt part
[17:03:52] <andypugh> Hence deciding to make it all RT
[17:04:14] <andypugh> The only drawback is no varargs, really
[18:51:19] * r00t4rd3d YAWNS
[18:51:30] * alex_joni goes to bed instead
[18:53:20] <r00t4rd3d> im just waking up :D
[19:29:41] <andypugh> This is rather nice. Whick Nick is MuellerNick?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJQtx80euGM&feature=related
[19:32:56] <r00t4rd3d> spammers all gone now huh?
[19:33:17] <andypugh> yeah, I kind of miss killing them
[19:37:33] <r00t4rd3d> the "Who Is Online" baffles me.
[19:37:46] <andypugh> I ignore it
[19:40:55] <r00t4rd3d> i wish you could sort the threads.
[19:41:14] <r00t4rd3d> views/last post
[19:45:24] <andypugh> I am rather missing the persistent " view latest threads" link. That could be a config thing though
[19:45:44] <andypugh> halrun
[19:45:46] <andypugh> doh
[19:46:08] <r00t4rd3d> haldie
[21:04:46] <cradek> https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/10/23/ZMFgswpZH0eoTx8I5keI8g2.jpg
[21:20:16] <tjb1> im ready for frakenstorm :D
[21:43:05] <r00t4rd3d> they just talking shit
[21:53:11] <jdh> they are?
[22:15:11] <Thetawaves> diff viewer for stl files
[22:15:16] <Thetawaves> red deletion, green addition
[22:15:21] <Thetawaves> https://cubehero.com/physibles/iamwil/robokitty/history/0cecb53528a7be6eb6236e01f36b7e37dbb260c8/robokitty.stl
[22:24:27] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/dgYMF.jpg
[22:25:16] <ink-> scary
[22:25:55] * ink- gives him all the halloween candy before he sets a gnome curse
[22:31:13] <ReadError> omg
[22:31:18] <ReadError> cant tell if kid or midget
[22:33:28] <ReadError> ink-, i was thinkin about adding another axis to my machine
[22:33:34] <ReadError> and doing tap handles
[22:33:41] <ReadError> like brotastic ones
[22:35:48] <jdh> you dont' get arrested for midget sex
[22:36:24] <ReadError> OFFICER I THOUGHT IT WAS A MIDGET PROMISE
[22:36:37] <ReadError> lets see how that defense holds up...
[22:37:11] <ink-> ReadError: haha nice
[22:37:56] <ReadError> too bad im not artistic
