#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-09-15

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[00:06:15] <_ink> he looks like a terminator robot sent from the future
[00:14:06] <Thetawaves> r00t4rd3d, that happened in my city :O
[00:15:01] <Thetawaves> talking about it on the news right fuck now
[00:15:30] <r00t4rd3d> seems like he wussed out some
[00:15:40] <Thetawaves> lol
[00:17:54] <r00t4rd3d> i wonder if he has a split personality?
[00:18:59] <Thetawaves> no
[00:19:14] <Thetawaves> he's just a heroin addict
[00:21:32] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAS8sMOmeL4
[00:29:47] <r00t4rd3d> I never realized how many hot bitches goto Burning Man till this:
[00:29:48] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3RAkGqYC8&feature=g-all-c
[02:01:42] <DJ9DJ> ne
[02:02:11] <DJ9DJ> moin
[08:33:02] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[08:34:53] <Loetmichel> sooo, new smartphone arrived... nice and big, that das galaxy note ;-)
[08:51:08] <r00t4rd3d> if its not an iphone 5, its garbage
[08:51:27] <psha> if it's not an iphone* it will be banned by court
[08:51:36] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[08:58:47] <r00t4rd3d> anyone a handsaw junky?
[09:07:49] <andypugh> I appreciate good ones, but don't own one. (handsaw, that is)
[09:08:17] <andypugh> Assuming you mean woorworking ones.
[09:08:41] <andypugh> I do have strong opnions about metalworking ones, and only the Eclipse 15B will do.
[09:19:53] <r00t4rd3d> ive had a old disston crosscut saw forever, i guess its worth a few bucks now
[09:20:04] <r00t4rd3d> -had, have
[09:20:15] <r00t4rd3d> err nvm
[09:22:02] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.tgiag.com/saw-handle-scans.html
[09:22:19] <r00t4rd3d> im gonna try to cut a fancy handle for it
[09:24:48] <andypugh> It doesn't have a handle then?
[09:25:22] <r00t4rd3d> it does and its in good shape, just not that elegant.
[09:25:55] <r00t4rd3d> i can do better :D
[09:27:40] <r00t4rd3d> i can convert those pdf's on that site in minutes
[09:27:52] <r00t4rd3d> clicky click
[10:44:14] <IchGuckLive> Hi all in the wonderfull world ! B)
[11:07:10] <andypugh> You got the wrong world, try the next one along.
[11:11:40] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[11:36:31] <jp_> seen awallin_?
[11:37:43] <IchGuckLive> O.Ohe is on holiday in the caribian
[11:38:27] <jp_> K
[11:43:24] <IchGuckLive> Zodiac milling -> Aquarius http://foengarage.de/aquarius.png
[11:43:47] <IchGuckLive> optimated for 1/8 3mm cutter
[11:43:56] <IchGuckLive> 250x250 mm
[11:44:44] <DJ9DJ> optimized? ;)
[11:44:54] <IchGuckLive> no
[11:45:10] <IchGuckLive> as you see te noncutting line
[11:45:42] <IchGuckLive> Gimp did the Job via Incscape
[11:46:30] <DJ9DJ> nice
[11:47:11] <IchGuckLive> Pocket pocket ptofiling and a mirror pocket
[11:48:26] <IchGuckLive> profiling
[11:48:32] <IchGuckLive> O.O B) :D
[11:49:25] <IchGuckLive> i messured in gimp via incscape and heekscad the pen wide to the expected milling Bitt then gave the Draw a nice repaint
[11:54:54] <Tom_itx> be aware the mirror'd pocket may cut in the reverse direction and may not measure the same because of tool deflection
[11:55:46] <IchGuckLive> you can make alot of back and force via svg and png to get a better shape but its ok this way 2
[11:56:15] <IchGuckLive> Tom_itx: the hotwire is 5mm outwards
[11:56:27] <IchGuckLive> no factor
[11:57:01] <IchGuckLive> millng is 5mm depth at a 40mm part
[12:00:14] <IchGuckLive> ok i leave partytime BBQ is on fire steaks are mounted
[12:00:30] <IchGuckLive> German cool bear !
[12:13:29] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[12:22:05] <r00t4rd3d> my Aquarius:
[12:22:06] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/DYTEJ.jpg
[13:55:34] <mrsun> hmm thats an idea
[13:55:56] <mrsun> to use optical mouse sensor etc to see if the motors has stalled or not and throw out an error :P
[13:56:42] <mrsun> 1000 dpi resolution in an old one =)
[14:00:42] <mrsun> dont you think that could be a crude linear encoder? :)
[14:01:31] <pcw_home> crude but maybe a fair in-motion detector
[14:02:58] <mrsun> 0.0254mm/dot ... tho i know optical mice tend to "slip" sometimes, so a motion detector it could be used for i guess =)
[14:03:17] <mrsun> or why not mount it to a round thingie on the motor, and let it read it as an optical encoder
[14:03:25] <mrsun> shielded from outside contaminents
[14:04:02] <pcw_home> Yeah calculate velocity by d/dt of reported position and see if its within reason
[14:04:47] <mrsun> could be a very cheap way atleast to get something working =)
[14:04:53] <mrsun> optical mice isnt that hard to come by :P
[14:10:17] <pcw_home> bear in mind they are dreadfully inaccurate so velocity sensing will need large error band
[14:11:53] <mrsun> its a thought atleast, could save from more crashes into the table from the Z axis for example
[14:12:13] <pcw_home> easy enough to try
[14:12:29] <mrsun> to detect movement at all shouldnt be that hard .. keeping velocity etc out of the picture, most important is to see that it moves :P
[14:12:45] <mrsun> ofc velocity would be nice to see as it would indicate if im skipping steps or not :P
[14:13:05] <pcw_home> well and doesnt see a vibrating stalled stepper as movement
[14:13:08] <skunkworks__> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servostart/Fastermouse.png
[14:13:39] <mrsun> skunkworks__, humm ?
[14:14:33] <skunkworks__> spinning a mouse wheel though the printer port
[14:14:39] <mrsun> oh =)
[14:16:19] <mrsun> but i guess an IR sensor and a slotted disk would be better and more accurate then =)
[14:17:19] <pcw_home> the optical mouse has one advantage in that its seal-able
[14:20:01] <pcw_home> but a hall effect pickup on the leadscrew or sprocket or handy gear would also work
[16:30:02] <JT-Shop> wow the high today is 68F
[16:31:18] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:10:03] <Aero-Tec> got a question
[17:10:56] <jdh> I have an answer.
[17:11:02] <Aero-Tec> a few days ago my mill would just fly, I mean fast as hell, to fast for my liking, but it did it with out any problems
[17:11:32] <Aero-Tec> now, today I had to turn the speeds way down to keep the steppers from freezing
[17:12:02] <jdh> temp? lube?
[17:12:05] <Aero-Tec> why some time it can scream and other days it acts up?
[17:12:26] <Aero-Tec> it is colder now then then
[17:12:46] <jdh> could be it then.
[17:13:16] <Aero-Tec> so how do I set up max speed so I do nor have to worry about it freezing up?
[17:13:43] <Aero-Tec> would hate for it to screw up in mid part run
[17:15:11] <JT-Shop> rapid max speed? Axis gui?
[17:15:17] <Aero-Tec> yes
[17:15:29] <Aero-Tec> I can set it in the INI
[17:15:35] <JT-Shop> yes
[17:15:40] <Aero-Tec> just not sure what to set it to
[17:15:57] <Aero-Tec> and what is the INI number?
[17:15:58] <JT-Shop> what is a good speed for your machine?
[17:16:05] <Aero-Tec> units per second?
[17:16:15] <JT-Shop> yes
[17:16:35] <Aero-Tec> I have 0.75 for x and y
[17:16:51] <JT-Shop> in the axis_n sections?
[17:16:52] <Aero-Tec> but not sure what that means
[17:16:59] <Aero-Tec> yes
[17:17:03] <JT-Shop> mm or inch?
[17:17:08] <Aero-Tec> inch
[17:17:22] <Aero-Tec> can not be inch per min
[17:17:27] <JT-Shop> .75*60=45 IPM
[17:17:37] <Aero-Tec> ok
[17:17:46] <Aero-Tec> so inch per second
[17:18:00] <JT-Shop> yes the ini entry is units per second
[17:18:16] <Aero-Tec> so 45 sound good?
[17:18:32] <Aero-Tec> it is a knee machine
[17:18:38] <Aero-Tec> smaller
[17:18:39] <JT-Shop> depends on lots of factors
[17:19:02] <Aero-Tec> I was afread you where going to say that
[17:19:07] <JT-Shop> my stepper driven plasma cutter can go 550 IPM for example
[17:19:31] <JT-Shop> what voltage is your supply?
[17:19:35] <Aero-Tec> at what steps per inch?
[17:19:49] <Aero-Tec> 75 or 80
[17:19:54] <Aero-Tec> something like that
[17:20:10] <JT-Shop> I don't recall the scale
[17:20:14] <Aero-Tec> close to the upper limit of gecko
[17:20:35] <JT-Shop> have you checked the power connections to be sure none is loose?
[17:21:10] <Aero-Tec> yes
[17:21:18] <Aero-Tec> it works well
[17:21:28] <Aero-Tec> just the speed thing now
[17:21:48] <JT-Shop> my scale is 3000 on the plasma X and Y axes
[17:21:57] <JT-Shop> gecko 203v drives
[17:22:22] <Aero-Tec> but in unheated garage so it got cold, I am in Canada
[17:22:35] <JT-Shop> cold should run better
[17:22:56] <Aero-Tec> oil stiffens up and has more drag
[17:22:58] <JT-Shop> any chance of mechanical binding?
[17:23:21] <Aero-Tec> it was both axis so I would say no
[17:23:30] <JT-Shop> dude you need a heater in your garage :)
[17:24:07] <Aero-Tec> in fact even the rotary axis acted up as well
[17:24:16] <Aero-Tec> lol
[17:24:22] <JT-Shop> how cold is it up there?
[17:24:32] <Aero-Tec> I do have electric ons I use when it gets cold
[17:24:48] <Aero-Tec> will have to check
[17:24:53] <JT-Shop> iirc they make different grades of way oil
[17:25:03] <Aero-Tec> I would guess somewhere in the 60s
[17:25:19] <Aero-Tec> not 2 cold
[17:25:23] <JT-Shop> that's not cold enough to mess with the oil
[17:25:31] <Aero-Tec> but not warn ether
[17:25:43] <Aero-Tec> will check the temp
[17:26:57] <JT-Shop> if all the axes are acting up it points to something common to all of them
[17:28:53] <Aero-Tec> about 68 F
[17:29:02] <Aero-Tec> cool but not bad
[17:29:17] <JT-Shop> same as here in MO
[17:29:45] <Aero-Tec> is that in the US?
[17:29:52] <JT-Shop> Missouri
[17:30:17] <JT-Shop> yes
[17:30:34] <Aero-Tec> I did mess with the latency settings
[17:30:57] <skunkworks__> are you getting rtai errors while running?
[17:31:02] <skunkworks__> latency errors?
[17:31:04] <Aero-Tec> could that have done it?
[17:31:16] <Aero-Tec> no
[17:31:29] <skunkworks__> how did you mess with them?
[17:31:30] <Aero-Tec> but I had not realy run it with old settings
[17:31:31] <JT-Shop> latency settings in stepconf wizard?
[17:31:45] <Aero-Tec> yes and know
[17:31:52] <JT-Shop> hi skunkworks__
[17:32:15] <skunkworks__> Hi john
[17:32:27] <Aero-Tec> set up a fakE setup AND MOVED THE SETTING Manually
[17:32:44] <Aero-Tec> sorry for the caps
[17:32:49] <Aero-Tec> finger slip
[17:32:51] <skunkworks__> tearing out an old jucuzzi tub.. yeck
[17:33:31] <Aero-Tec> you got a new one to play with or should I say in?
[17:34:04] <JT-Shop> how long did you run the latency test? and did you run things like glxgears?
[17:34:15] <Aero-Tec> so I did use the wiz to get the number to use
[17:34:27] <Aero-Tec> a few hours
[17:34:40] <Aero-Tec> yes to glxgears
[17:34:45] <Aero-Tec> and other things
[17:35:02] <Aero-Tec> hit the new and other network computers
[17:35:03] <skunkworks__> I would think you would be gettting errors running linuxcnc if it where a latency issue.
[17:35:04] <Aero-Tec> moved some files
[17:35:37] <Aero-Tec> I am guessing it must have something to do with the temp
[17:35:58] <Aero-Tec> it is colder now then when i DID THE TESTING BEFORE
[17:36:09] <Aero-Tec> dam cap lock
[17:36:17] <skunkworks__> heh
[17:36:34] <Aero-Tec> it was scary fast before
[17:37:02] <Aero-Tec> now I have to run it much slower
[17:37:20] <Aero-Tec> still going good, just not as fast
[17:37:52] <Aero-Tec> just wondering what the best way to find max speed is
[17:38:07] <Aero-Tec> poor english
[17:38:29] <Aero-Tec> should proof read I guess
[17:38:53] <Aero-Tec> it was toasty when it ran fast
[17:39:12] <Aero-Tec> and the garage is colder then outside
[17:39:35] <Aero-Tec> so the machine may be still at last night temp
[17:39:54] <Aero-Tec> could do a temp read on machine directly
[17:40:50] <JT-Shop> have you seen the stepper test routine in the manual?
[17:41:04] <Aero-Tec> no
[17:41:22] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/Stepper_Diagnostics.html
[17:41:39] <Aero-Tec> I did see the one where it goes back and forth a whack of times
[17:41:46] <Aero-Tec> is that the one you mean?
[17:41:50] <JT-Shop> that's it
[17:43:20] <JT-Shop> can you monitor the voltage of your power supply with a meter while you run all the axes at once?
[17:44:20] <Aero-Tec> one other thing I did do
[17:44:28] <Aero-Tec> setup backlash
[17:45:40] <Aero-Tec> as I set the step gen max A to double like they said
[17:46:17] <Aero-Tec> that could have made the following error
[17:47:27] <Aero-Tec> not sure if the motor growl was from the sudden loss of step input when running at speed or if the motor just could not keep up
[17:48:00] <Aero-Tec> I guess I could play with the settings again and see what happens
[17:48:59] <JT-Shop> yikes backlash!
[17:49:48] <JT-Shop> did you read about the stepgen max accel setting with backlash
[17:50:19] <Aero-Tec> yes
[17:50:30] <Aero-Tec> that is why I changed the settings
[17:51:03] <Aero-Tec> could that be making my following error?
[17:51:23] <Aero-Tec> it is a following error that EMC complains about
[17:51:26] <Nick001-Shop> how do I get information out of G54 in the tool table. it seems to keep rewriting to the VAR table when I shut the program off
[17:51:54] <Aero-Tec> the motor noise could just be EMC sudden shut down
[17:52:55] <Aero-Tec> seeing as there is no feed back
[17:53:14] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/Stepper_Diagnostics.html#_following_error
[17:54:15] <Aero-Tec> I would guess now that the motor noise is not the motor freezing like I thought but from EMCs sudden shut down and the motors going a few steps
[17:54:48] <JT-Shop> or stepper motor stalling
[17:55:32] <JT-Shop> Nick001: can you rephrase your question?
[17:56:36] <Aero-Tec> I did double the step max A
[17:56:58] <Aero-Tec> that could have set the stage for the following error
[17:57:42] <Aero-Tec> should I set the step max A to half as much and not double?
[17:57:52] <JT-Shop> if you did that in the stepconf wizard it will adjust your base thread speed
[17:58:01] <Nick001-Shop> I touched off a tool and loaded it into g54 rather than tool table on the bottom of the drop down. Now it gives a weird dimension on the screen like 405 on the X axis to the part.
[17:58:41] <JT-Shop> clear the g54
[17:58:42] <Nick001-Shop> now the program wont run because too much travel for X
[17:58:57] <Nick001-Shop> how?
[17:59:03] <JT-Shop> Axis?
[17:59:10] <Nick001-Shop> yes
[17:59:18] <JT-Shop> bottom of the Machine menu
[17:59:51] <Nick001-Shop> ill go look brb
[17:59:55] <Aero-Tec> anyway to set the max speed lower than 1800 in axis?
[18:00:28] <Aero-Tec> get a better scaled slider that way
[18:00:29] <Tom_itx> set it in the [DISPLAY] section of your ini
[18:00:40] <Aero-Tec> cool
[18:00:42] <Aero-Tec> thanks
[18:01:31] <Aero-Tec> I was just wanting to make sure I was setting things up right so I would not get error in mid part
[18:02:07] <Aero-Tec> will just have to set up and cut air a few times for each part and make sure it run good
[18:02:18] <Tom_itx> MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE and MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY
[18:02:40] <Aero-Tec> thanks
[18:02:45] <Tom_itx> 1 being 100%
[18:02:47] <Tom_itx> i think
[18:03:00] <JT-Shop> cutting air is always a good thing at first
[18:03:12] <Tom_itx> it's cheap to replace
[18:03:17] <Aero-Tec> lol
[18:03:28] <Aero-Tec> and not as scary
[18:03:45] <Aero-Tec> some time I hate hitting the go button
[18:04:18] <andypugh> Not the best day today. I went out on my pushbike to get some stuff, and had a puncture. Then found I couldn't fix the puncture as I had lost my keys en-route, and couldn't go look for them (in a sensible timescale) because I had a puncture. A friend holds a spare front door key, and I managed to break back into my workshop and fix the puncture. But it's a real hassle.
[18:04:20] <Nick001-Shop> zero coordinate system? P1-9 and G92 listed - no tool table
[18:04:31] <Aero-Tec> mack would sometimes just take off at max speed right through the parts, vice, jig, what ever got in the way
[18:04:43] <Aero-Tec> mach
[18:05:15] <JT-Shop> yikes
[18:05:22] <Aero-Tec> be in mid part run, M0 stop, hit go and it would go nuts
[18:06:10] <andypugh> Aero-Tec: Scariest mouse click so far for me involved a 100kg flywheel doing 3000rpm, a pnuematic clutch and a cam that was about to send a platten from 0 to 60 in 1/2"
[18:06:25] <Aero-Tec> and I had made a whack of parts in that run and changed nothing
[18:07:53] <Aero-Tec> that would be scary
[18:09:07] <Aero-Tec> lots of weight going fast. not good if things go wrong
[18:09:23] <andypugh> It did tend to destry the cam follower. And on the first run it left the linear bearings behind. :-)
[18:09:38] <Aero-Tec> lol
[18:09:52] <Aero-Tec> any damage?
[18:10:05] <Aero-Tec> other then cam follower
[18:10:15] <andypugh> It needed a new carriage. I should have taken photos.
[18:10:45] <Aero-Tec> sounds bad, very bad
[18:11:07] <Aero-Tec> you make the carriage or did you have to buy a new one?
[18:11:13] <andypugh> There were two 50mm bars 300mm apart.
[18:12:00] <Aero-Tec> some pix of the machine now or when it was done would be cool
[18:12:20] <Aero-Tec> get a better idea of that it is
[18:13:07] <Aero-Tec> of what it is
[18:13:10] <Aero-Tec> lol
[18:13:36] <andypugh> Aero-Tec: 3D model I made at the time. it was probably 15 years ago. http://www.bodgesoc.org/plast.gif
[18:15:07] <Aero-Tec> are you sure the flywheel was going at 3000 RPM?
[18:15:30] <Aero-Tec> looks like it was on the wrong side of gear box to be going that fast
[18:16:02] <andypugh> The Mk1 sliding carriage (wire-eroded aluminium) left the outer bearing housings behind by 10mm on the first full-speed run
[18:16:30] <Aero-Tec> and what a snap to the cam to suddenly go from zero to 3000 rpm
[18:16:45] <andypugh> The gearbox was a lathe headstock sold to me cheap by Dean Smith and Grace
[18:17:29] <Aero-Tec> so you were not using any gears, just the spindle part of the head stock
[18:17:33] <Aero-Tec> right?
[18:18:02] <Aero-Tec> still why so fast?
[18:18:14] <Aero-Tec> why not gear it down some
[18:18:21] <andypugh> I needed lower speeds too. And at the time VFDs were expensive (and I probably hadb
[18:18:22] <andypugh> 
[18:18:31] <andypugh> hadn't heard of them
[18:18:33] <Aero-Tec> 500 would be better I would tink
[18:18:58] <Aero-Tec> ok
[18:19:09] <andypugh> The point was to do compression tests of materials really very fast
[18:19:44] <Aero-Tec> so that cam would travel several revs per hit I would think
[18:20:05] <andypugh> I was simulating car crashes, and many of the materials, like foam, rubber, fat, muscle, have strongly strain-rate dependent properties.
[18:20:35] <Aero-Tec> sounds messy
[18:20:43] <andypugh> Yes, you get one good hit, and a lot of spinning afterwards to discard.
[18:20:51] <Aero-Tec> big splat factor
[18:21:22] <andypugh> I didn't test the biomaterials. I just tested crash-test dummy parts.
[18:21:44] <Aero-Tec> cool
[18:22:10] <Aero-Tec> back to setting up my mill
[18:23:15] <andypugh> DSG make proper big lathes: http://www.deansmithandgrace.co.uk/index.php?section=page&page_seq=56
[18:23:44] <andypugh> I wonder if they want to offer LinuxCNC as a controller?
[18:24:46] <andypugh> Up to 21" spinle bore.
[18:29:12] <Aero-Tec> wow
[18:29:17] <Aero-Tec> cool
[18:29:22] <Aero-Tec> nice
[18:29:36] <Aero-Tec> must be very expensive
[18:29:48] <andypugh> I expect so.
[18:30:36] <andypugh> Also rather speialist, as the spindle speed is limited by what bearings with a 21" hole are capable of.
[18:35:32] <Tom_itx> so andy, did you find your keys?
[18:40:02] <andypugh> No
[18:42:00] <Tom_itx> :(
[18:42:27] <JT-Shop> anyone know what I have to do to get the ELO touchscreen setup in 10.04?
[18:44:58] <andypugh> Does it not work at all?
[18:46:12] <andypugh> Tom_itx: Tomorrow I will measure my cylinders and order a keyed-alike set. I have been intending to do that for a few years anyway.
[18:47:34] <JT-Shop> yes, I think I need to calibrate it somehow now I can touch the screen and the mouse pointer jumps somewhere else
[18:47:46] <JT-Shop> been reading this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EloTouchScreen
[18:49:51] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Try calibrating. Mine had X and Y wrong, and mirrored. The calibration routine sorted it out.
[19:06:22] <JT-Shop> is the calibration routine part of evtouch?
[19:12:14] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Not sure, mine is a different make
[19:15:42] <JT-Shop> ok, I'll just mess with the conf file till it works
[19:21:57] <JT-Shop> I had to swap X and Y, no wonder I thought it didn't work at first I was touching a file on the desktop on the left side and the mouse pointer was on the right side
[20:00:37] <jp_> how can i make the jog speed slider in axis more sensitive?
[20:01:05] <jp_> ask my wife perhaps?
[20:14:44] <Tom_L> change the ini settings in [DISPLAY]
[20:16:13] <Tom_itx> MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE and MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY
[20:16:28] <Tom_L> those should do it
[20:16:32] <Tom_L> 1 being 100%
[20:17:53] <jp_> That Just sets the range. My problem is with the mouse ithe slider is just to coarse
[20:18:06] <Tom_itx> mmm
[20:18:12] <Tom_itx> not sure about that
[20:18:20] <Tom_itx> it would be in the axis settings though
[20:18:24] <Tom_itx> for the slider
[20:18:42] <jp_> dam extruders move to slow
[20:18:59] <Tom_itx> use your arrow keys or +- whichever controls it
[20:19:02] <Tom_itx> i forget
[20:20:41] <JT-Shop> jp_: you can't control the slider sensitivity
[20:21:08] <jp_> I thought that might be the answer
[20:21:20] <Tom_itx> wrong answer :(
[20:25:50] <JT-Shop> you can move it with the keyboard in increments of 10 from 0 - 100
[20:26:25] <JT-Shop> or connect up a mpg
[20:26:36] * Tom_L hugs his mpg
[20:26:49] <Tom_L> that's got to be the best thing i added to my sherline
[20:27:00] <Tom_L> aside from linuxcnc of course
[20:27:15] <jp_> Sorry the JOG SPEED Slider
[20:28:07] <Tom_L> change the ini settings if it's too fast
[20:28:58] <JT-Shop> jp try the , and . keys
[20:29:38] <jp_> yeah but still jumps from 23mm/m to 83mm/m
[20:30:10] <jp_> ill just have to change the ini and live with the fact i loose some of the top end
[20:31:44] <JT-Shop> why do you need fine control for jog speed?
[20:32:52] <jp_> Dam extruder runs aroind 30-40mm/s
[20:33:38] <jp_> while the rest of the machine can do like 1000 times that
[20:33:55] <jp_> Well not a 1000 but you get the idea
[20:34:23] <JT-Shop> so you want to jog the extruder?
[20:34:58] <jp_> yeah its handy and in MDI it's annoying
[20:35:12] <JT-Shop> make a pyvcp button and use halui to jog the extruder
[20:35:21] <jp_> true
[20:37:04] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[20:37:42] <jp_> goodnight Gracie
[20:38:00] <Tom_L> later JT-Shop
[20:44:09] <JT-Shop> touch screen calibrated time to waddle back to the house
[20:44:12] <JT-Shop> goodnight
[21:43:11] <r00t4rd3d> Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
[22:19:11] <tjb1> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=167485&amp;d=1347761850
[22:33:12] <pana> nice.
[22:33:45] <pana> cncrouterparts for the trucks and stuff?
[22:38:48] <skunkworks__> mach 4 lite is out? http://www.cnczone.com/forums/automation_technology_products/162843-mach4-lite_software_ethernet_smoothboard_screw.html
[23:07:13] <tjb1> sorry pana, yes its the cncrp design carriages
[23:07:21] <tjb1> I actually made the ones pictured though
[23:10:07] <tjb1> hey r00t4rd3d cad makes it look small doesnt it?
[23:32:08] <SavageSimian> any solidworks gurus here? i'm a noob trying to cut a hole in a nonplaner surface and i'm a little stumped.
[23:34:09] <Tom_itx> SavageSimian, did you get that link?
[23:40:13] <tjb1> Need to find a way to set up my homing sensors...
[23:40:38] <SavageSimian> to home in on what?
[23:41:55] <tjb1> ??
[23:42:19] <SavageSimian> kidding. sorry.
[23:46:42] <pana> I built mine from there parts last christmas.. Wish I had a little more knowledge when I did, as I could have saved some cash.
[23:47:39] <tjb1> i only saved $60 making 6 of them myself and I didnt have to buy the aluminum either
[23:47:59] <pana> it kinda looks like you used finelineautomations plans though
[23:48:22] <pana> just used steel instead of alum lower frame
[23:48:32] <tjb1> i took a lot of ideas from a lot of plans
[23:48:57] <pana> best way to get where needed
[23:49:12] <tjb1> i workedo n the design for about 6 months
[23:49:46] <tjb1> Its my senior project so I had a lot of time to refine the design
[23:49:56] <pana> looks good. are you worried about the lower frame shaking from rapid motion?
[23:50:21] <tjb1> no
[23:50:24] <tjb1> its pretty heavy
[23:50:39] <tjb1> still a 600# water table coming
[23:50:58] <pana> my lower table is made from 4x4 frame with 3/4" particle board top and lower shelf. I still get shaking
[23:51:12] <pana> plasma cutter?
[23:51:16] <tjb1> and router
[23:52:28] <pana> hope it all works out for you then
[23:53:16] <tjb1> What did you face your spoil board with?
[23:53:28] <pana> I need to setup a video camera on mine so I can watch it fromt he comfort of my living room :)
[23:53:42] <tjb1> I looked at lowes but didnt seen any big cutters that would work for facing
[23:54:03] <pana> 3/4" mdf double layer. trammed the top layer with a mortise bit
[23:54:11] <pana> 1 1/4" round
[23:54:33] <pana> I've done them with a 3/4" round mortise bit as well
[23:54:39] <pana> takes a while
[23:55:07] <tjb1> Mine would take forever haha
[23:55:32] <pana> I just recently changed from a bosch colt to a PC690 which allowed me to change to a 1/2" shaft and larger router bits
[23:56:00] <pana> true, but only need todo it very seldom
[23:56:09] <tjb1> what hp is that?
[23:56:27] <pana> seems to me 1 1/4 or 1/2
[23:56:38] <tjb1> Im going to be using a dewalt 611
[23:56:45] <pana> quieter than the bosch
[23:56:47] <tjb1> Only 1/4" collet but 1.25 hp
[23:57:10] <pana> get a precise bit's set of collet's
[23:57:21] <tjb1> You can get 1 1/4 for 1/4" shank?
[23:57:31] <pana> they are worth the extra money
[23:57:35] <pana> hell no
[23:58:05] <tjb1> Didnt think so :P
[23:58:10] <pana> 3/4 I used on the bosch with 1/4" max.. PC690 has 1/2, 1/4 and 1/8 collet's from PB.
[23:58:38] <tjb1> yeah 3/4 would take a while
[23:59:01] <pana> 50x46 only takes a couple of hours
[23:59:08] <tjb1> inch?
[23:59:13] <pana> yep
[23:59:23] <tjb1> Mine will most likely be 48x96
[23:59:30] <tjb1> just because of 4x8 mdf :)