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[00:00:00] <Aero-Tec> like o100 can it be O100?
[00:01:50] <Aero-Tec> found a example of a capital O
[00:02:00] <Aero-Tec> so guess one can use caps
[00:13:21] <r00t4rd3d> in what?
[00:13:59] <r00t4rd3d> what examples are you talking about
[00:16:20] <r00t4rd3d> trying to scale a example gcode file that comes with linuxcnc from a text editor would be a giant pain in the ass
[00:16:42] <r00t4rd3d> might as well start from scratch
[00:18:41] <r00t4rd3d> if your new and just looking for shit to mess with, down load some dxf files and scale them to your machine with a cam program
[00:18:44] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/UeATk.jpg
[00:18:56] <r00t4rd3d> opps
[00:18:57] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=19346
[00:19:04] <r00t4rd3d> there is a pile of dxf files
[02:07:07] <_ink> oooh
[02:09:32] <DJ9DJ> moin
[04:28:50] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[05:48:48] <jthornton> morning
[06:05:17] <jdh> indeed it is!
[06:07:45] <mk0> nope, it's 1.56 pm
[07:35:23] <DJ9DJ> tag
[07:35:34] <MattyMatt> you're it
[07:37:25] <MattyMatt> these xmos event driven processors look fun ->
http://www.xmos.com/applications/motor-control
[07:38:24] <MattyMatt> if I was time and cash rich, I'd play with these
[07:40:10] <MattyMatt> aw they haven't put rtai on it already
[07:43:24] <MattyMatt> does anyone have a rough figure for the number of emc users worldwide?
[07:43:53] <MattyMatt> that'd be handy to know if I try pitching to xmos
[07:45:05] <r00t4rd3d> 800 million
[07:50:52] <r00t4rd3d> i doubt they have a good number. most likely only can get a rough idea from the amount of downloads
[07:51:22] <MattyMatt> that's what I'm looking for
[07:51:31] <MattyMatt> although at least 2 of them are me :)
[07:51:45] <MattyMatt> 8.04 and 10.04 cd
[07:52:18] <MattyMatt> they are installed on 2 computers tho, so I guess I am 2 users
[07:52:44] <MattyMatt> for a chipmaker, that's 2
[07:59:58] <r00t4rd3d> thens there the people who are retards and get install it then go back to mach
[08:00:10] <r00t4rd3d> get/cant
[08:00:31] <r00t4rd3d> wow i screwed that all u[
[08:00:35] <r00t4rd3d> FK!
[08:00:49] <r00t4rd3d> i should just go back to bed now
[08:37:58] <jthornton> sweet! I can tell which radio button was pressed in my gui and set the jog type
[08:42:34] <MattyMatt> r00t4rd3d, that might be me on lappy. I can't get the parport working
[08:43:28] <MattyMatt> and thinkpad has an XP pro licence, the best windows available
[08:44:52] <skunkworks> jthornton, you are having way too much fun!
[08:45:18] <JT-Shop> yea, it is still fun
[08:48:18] <r00t4rd3d> windows 7 smokes xp pro
[08:48:50] <pcw_home> Windows 7 is a lot flakier the XP
[08:49:30] <pcw_home> Vista with lipstick
[08:50:12] <r00t4rd3d> vista is garbage, 7 does not even compare
[08:50:39] <pcw_home> more lipstick
[09:48:12] <Dolence> hi guys!
[09:51:30] <skunkworks> Hello!
[09:52:47] <Dolence> skunkworks how are you?
[09:53:01] <skunkworks> not bad - and you?
[09:54:15] <Dolence> ah, everything just fine! playing with linuxcnc right now
[10:01:54] <skunkworks> Great - I love linuxcnc
[10:06:33] * phantoxe is back from: gone (been away for 6m)
[10:28:11] <Dolence> someone could please tell answer me a thing about home/limit switches?
[10:29:18] <jdh> ask
[10:29:43] <Dolence> limit switches are expected to be after or before home switches? when I do a home scan, I noticed that limit switches act too... activating E_STOP
[10:30:39] <jdh> you can tell homing to ignore limits, but afaik, that setting is mainly for using shared home/limit
[10:31:00] <jdh> I can't think of another situation where you would want the machine to ignore hard limit switches.
[10:31:11] <Dolence> I'm using 1 pin to all 3 limit switches and individual input pins to the 3 home switches
[10:31:37] <jdh> for your first axis, where is the home in relation to the limits?
[10:32:28] <Dolence> almost together, with limit being activaded before (almost same time) reaching home
[10:33:01] <jdh> that would seem to be a bad idea, IMO.
[10:33:19] <jdh> why would you want to home outside the hard limits of the axis?
[10:33:42] <Dolence> I dont, a friend of mine give thsi amchien to me, so I'm trying to modernize it
[10:34:00] <Dolence> ok, but lets say I rearrange switches positions
[10:34:14] <jdh> move the home switch inside the limits.
[10:34:36] <jdh> but, you have to tell it to home + or -. If you are on teh 'wrong' side of the home switch, you might be moving in the wrong direction.
[10:36:42] <Dolence> jdh how could I do that? yesterday, to have a right homing scanning I had to change scale to a negative parameter
[10:37:53] <jdh> you can share a single pin for all limits and homes. You just have to make sure none of the axes are on a limit/home before homing.
[10:38:27] <jdh> I would suggest getting rid of the individual home switches and use shared home/limits per axis.
[10:38:53] <Dolence> ok
[10:39:34] <Dolence> I deactivated all limits to be able to test the machine
[10:39:41] <Dolence> homming worked like a charm
[10:40:13] <Dolence> but after that, i tried to move the axis using directional and it moved only 0.1" on each axis
[10:40:25] <jdh> if you always home, and never lose position, and have correct soft limits, it's almost, but not quite, like having hard limits
[10:40:54] <Dolence> ok, i think i dont have soft limits setted yet
[10:41:11] <Dolence> don't figured out how to set yet
[10:41:24] <Dolence> becasue after homing, each axis move only o.1"
[10:41:29] <Dolence> 0.1
[10:42:03] <jdh> I have machines with separate limits/home at work. When you tell them to home, they go whatever direction specified until they hit a limit or home. If they hit a limit, they go the other direction until they hit home.
[10:42:13] <jdh> Not sure if linuxcnc has a home sequence like that.
[10:42:30] <jdh> and it doesn't really seem to add much.
[10:44:13] <Dolence> ok, ty very much jdh
[10:44:21] <Dolence> i will try to figure out how to set soft limits
[10:44:34] <Dolence> because right now, each axis move no more them 0.1"
[10:45:14] <jdh> does it display an error when it stops?
[10:45:36] <Dolence> let me see
[10:48:23] <Dolence> no, no error message
[10:49:15] <jdh> what are MIN_LIMIT and MAX_LIMIT in your .ini for teh axis?
[10:50:25] <Dolence> min limit -0.01
[10:50:33] <Dolence> max limit was 0, but i changed it to 5000 witout success
[10:51:02] <jdh> what is HOME?
[10:51:13] <jdh> and HOME_OFFSET?
[10:51:47] <jdh> and do your axes move in the correct +/- directions?
[10:51:49] <Dolence> both are zero
[10:52:42] <Dolence> yes, bu i had to change scale to home in the direction of switches
[10:52:52] <Dolence> homing was inverted in relation to switches position
[10:53:04] <Dolence> *reversed
[10:53:30] <jdh> you changed the sign of STEP_SCALE, or HOME_SEARCH_VEL ?
[10:54:04] <Dolence> just the signal
[10:54:08] <Dolence> in scale
[10:54:41] <jdh> if you hit the right arrow, does your cutter move to the right relative to the work?
[10:56:32] <jdh> you can invert the homing direction by changing the sign of HOME_SEARCH_VEL
[10:56:50] <Dolence> hmmm
[10:56:59] <Dolence> it seens to be reversed
[10:58:14] <Dolence> i will try it and report
[10:58:34] <Dolence> I have to launch :D~
[10:58:41] <Dolence> by now, thanks you very much
[10:58:45] <Dolence> *thank
[10:58:56] <Dolence> if it works, I will let you know!
[11:11:04] <IchGuckLive> HI All
[11:11:19] <IchGuckLive> Dolence: ?
[11:12:43] <Dolence> Hi IchGuckLive
[11:13:01] <IchGuckLive> Did you recive my seconf mail
[11:13:05] <Dolence> how are you?
[11:13:19] <Dolence> Yeah, already downloaded but not tried yet
[11:13:24] <IchGuckLive> tierd after work
[11:13:38] <Dolence> trying to solve linuxcnc config problems
[11:13:51] <IchGuckLive> Maybe there is also a version in portugese out
[11:14:01] <Dolence> oh, here it's only 01:00 PM
[11:14:16] <IchGuckLive> im 5hr later
[11:14:20] <Dolence> wow
[11:14:32] <IchGuckLive> what is the config problem
[11:14:44] <Dolence> ok, let me explain the scenario to you
[11:15:01] <Dolence> yesterday I was able to figure out the pins used by my machine
[11:15:16] <IchGuckLive> Parport i guess
[11:15:23] <Dolence> yes
[11:15:29] <Dolence> after that, I tried to do a homing
[11:15:50] <IchGuckLive> with or without homepin in use
[11:16:04] <IchGuckLive> are there real home switches
[11:16:10] <Dolence> yeah
[11:16:17] <IchGuckLive> ok
[11:16:22] <Dolence> 3 inputs/switches to home
[11:16:26] <Dolence> and 1 input to all limits
[11:16:41] <Dolence> two problems here, limits are phisically before home switches
[11:16:59] <IchGuckLive> That will not work
[11:17:16] <Dolence> ok, I already changed the positions
[11:17:50] <IchGuckLive> Home switches are ignored after homming
[11:18:02] <IchGuckLive> problem now is
[11:18:27] <IchGuckLive> one more info do you use stepconf or do it manuell
[11:18:39] <Dolence> second, homing direction was reversed on y and z axis
[11:18:58] <Dolence> so I changed SCALE to a negative parameter
[11:19:06] <Dolence> and them it worked as expected
[11:19:20] <IchGuckLive> you can use a - in the search velocity
[11:19:30] <Dolence> in the velocity, not scale?
[11:19:36] <IchGuckLive> SCALE is always plus
[11:19:45] <Dolence> ahhhhhh...
[11:19:48] <Dolence> now i see
[11:19:59] <Dolence> because after homing, each axis move only 0.1"
[11:20:07] <IchGuckLive> DID you read the integratoer manuell on this
[11:20:40] <IchGuckLive> scale is the stepcount per 1mm if you configure mm mashine
[11:21:17] <IchGuckLive> the infos are on page 26... in the manual
[11:21:32] <IchGuckLive> HOME_SEARCH_VEL is your need
[11:21:48] <IchGuckLive> set it to minus value and it moves the other way
[11:22:41] <IchGuckLive> oh is see we got the HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS So its posibel to home outside the limits
[11:23:02] <IchGuckLive> at 2.5 Version
[11:24:38] <IchGuckLive> Dolence:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini_homing.html
[11:25:01] <Dolence> now it kinda worked
[11:25:14] <IchGuckLive> :D B) O.O
[11:25:30] <Dolence> the problem now is some axis are inverted in relation to work
[11:26:07] <IchGuckLive> invert the Axis first to get your coordinate systrems then resink homing
[11:26:15] <Dolence> only Y is right
[11:26:49] <IchGuckLive> you need to invert the direction pins
[11:27:05] <IchGuckLive> do you use Stepconf ?
[11:27:08] <Dolence> yeah
[11:27:31] <IchGuckLive> hit the arrow box beond XDirection and Z direction
[11:27:46] <IchGuckLive> INVERT
[11:28:34] <IchGuckLive> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/stepconf.html#_parallel_port_setup_a_id_sec_parallel_port_setup_a
[11:32:16] <IchGuckLive> Dolence: ? done
[11:35:26] <IchGuckLive> i need to get evening meal by till the hr 19:00MESZ
[11:35:40] <Dolence> ok
[11:35:45] <Dolence> i will keep testing here
[11:36:08] <Dolence> I inverted the Y and Z pins and HOME VELoCITY as is, positive, now it searches home in the right direction
[11:36:15] <Dolence> but still moving only 0.1"
[11:45:33] <skunkworks> Dolence, what do you mean it only moves .1?
[11:49:09] <jdh> did you change the MIN/MAX?
[11:52:16] <Dolence> the axis moves 0.1" and stops
[11:52:36] <jdh> change them to -20.0 & +20.0?
[11:52:38] <Dolence> I'm redoing all the configurations
[11:52:41] <jdh> or that.
[12:11:50] <IchGuckLive> Hi
[12:12:25] <IchGuckLive> Dolence: does it work your way
[12:34:14] <r00t4rd3d> canon customer support is staffed by a pile in inbred retards
[12:35:12] <r00t4rd3d> i knew i should have bought a Nikon
[12:35:23] <jdh> s/canon/all/
[12:43:52] <IchGuckLive> Cannon is better
[12:44:09] <IchGuckLive> D450Da forever
[12:44:29] <IchGuckLive> i got somany nice pictures of the sky
[12:45:18] <ReadError> sony nex-5 looks nice
[12:46:27] <IchGuckLive> at this price no chocie to the cannon nikons
[12:48:03] <r00t4rd3d> i just got my camera back after sending it to canon repair, still doesnt work with my eye-fi card.
[12:48:24] <r00t4rd3d> i just flipped out on them
[12:48:29] <r00t4rd3d> flipped
[12:48:40] <IchGuckLive> do the other cards work
[12:48:42] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[12:49:08] <IchGuckLive> i only use Scandisk extreme3
[12:49:20] <r00t4rd3d> there is a known issue with my camera model and eye-fi cards but they can repair it
[12:49:38] <r00t4rd3d> supposedly
[12:49:44] <IchGuckLive> you can upload the fixes your own
[12:50:24] <r00t4rd3d> nope, there is a firmware update to fix an issue with eyefi but that doesnt resolve my problem
[12:50:28] <IchGuckLive> every foto dealer here in Germany tat has cannon in stuff will do this to the costemer
[12:51:43] <IchGuckLive> is it the wifi card
[12:51:48] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[12:52:09] <IchGuckLive> Eos 400
[12:52:20] <r00t4rd3d> 1000D/XS
[12:53:35] <r00t4rd3d> https://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t1i_ef_s_18_55mm_is_kit?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e02480464938
[12:54:06] <IchGuckLive> is see it here is it the no folder problem
[12:54:10] <r00t4rd3d> no
[12:54:23] <r00t4rd3d> red indicator light only
[12:55:04] <r00t4rd3d> they are emailing me an overnight shipping label
[12:56:50] <r00t4rd3d> I told them they were going to compensate me for lost jobs too like i was a photographer
[12:56:56] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[12:58:09] <IchGuckLive> photografer with a 100D O.O
[12:58:13] <IchGuckLive> 1000
[12:58:25] <IchGuckLive> you are joking
[12:58:29] <r00t4rd3d> its only 4 years old
[12:58:50] <IchGuckLive> what firmware is on
[12:59:04] <r00t4rd3d> i know photographers who use film cameras that where made in the 60's
[12:59:13] <IchGuckLive> i 2
[12:59:14] <r00t4rd3d> 1.0.7
[12:59:29] <IchGuckLive> go back to 1.05
[13:00:00] <r00t4rd3d> you think that will fix it?
[13:00:11] <IchGuckLive> if then the folder is the problem update to 1.06
[13:00:11] <r00t4rd3d> i think thats what is was on when i got it
[13:00:31] <IchGuckLive> i see here a thing that says so
[13:01:02] <IchGuckLive> its only the SDHC problem fix in the 1.05
[13:01:20] <IchGuckLive> and if the sd card does the wifi on its own its to work
[13:01:35] <r00t4rd3d> the only firmware listed is 1.0.7
[13:01:42] <r00t4rd3d> where i find older versions?
[13:03:02] <r00t4rd3d> i got it i think
[13:04:44] <IchGuckLive> I hope that works for you
[13:05:24] <r00t4rd3d> still looking for 05
[13:11:01] <r00t4rd3d> finally found it, on a german site
[13:11:43] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[13:25:59] <r00t4rd3d> no go
[13:28:32] <r00t4rd3d> im just going to have to send it back in ffs
[13:42:27] <tjb1> Got 6 blanks done for the carriages :D
[13:42:57] <Tom_itx> carriages for what?
[13:43:02] <tjb1> my table
[13:47:40] <tjb1> should get most of the holes drilled in them tomorrow if I have enough time
[13:49:47] <tjb1> only get 3 hours to work :(
[14:05:45] <skunkworks> stupid question... How do I transfer terminal history from one terminal to another (like F! to F2)
[14:13:35] <PCW> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-view-bash-shell-history-and-change-bash-history-file-size-in-ubuntu.html
[14:14:35] <r00t4rd3d> i wonder if just coping the .bash_history file would work?
[14:18:22] <r00t4rd3d> err wait, all terminals should read the .bash_history file in your home dir
[14:22:09] <r00t4rd3d> that is any easy way to root a single user machine that you gain access too. Just view the bash history for a sudo command :)
[14:23:12] <cpresser> skunkworks: the history is read at startup of the shell. ánd safed one you exit the shell.
[14:23:29] <cpresser> r00t4rd3d: in that case i would just boot with "init=/bin/sh".
[14:24:30] <r00t4rd3d> heh
[14:28:56] <PCW> passwords are not saved in the history
[14:30:19] <r00t4rd3d> now i gotta test
[14:30:52] <PCW> nor is anything else typed into another programs input
[14:31:13] <r00t4rd3d> so sudo or ssh passes are not in there?
[14:31:32] <PCW> its not a typescript, just whats typed to the shell
[14:32:14] <cpresser> r00t4rd3d: only if you pass them to sudo via a pipe. like "echo mypass | sudo reboot"
[14:38:36] <skunkworks> cpresser, ah - ok
[14:38:50] <skunkworks> I cannot logout of the shell I am in as it is running a rsync
[15:59:53] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:12:13] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/05/fcc-mobile-broadband-speed-tests-planned/
[18:56:51] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.crazypc.com/other/misc/toast.htm
[18:57:00] <r00t4rd3d> CrazyPC 5.25 Inch Bay Toaster
[19:09:33] <tjb1> Can someone take a look at this and tell me if this setup looks alright?
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/240988_4279179573693_1539177697_o.jpg
[19:09:43] <tjb1> and
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/413422_4279180773723_41540316_o.jpg
[19:09:53] <tjb1> and
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/279500_4279184733822_1670806280_o.jpg
[19:10:23] <r00t4rd3d> how come the machined end isnt in the bearing?
[19:10:27] <jp__> are those shaft collars?
[19:11:10] <r00t4rd3d> or is that where you are going to mount the coupler for the motor...
[19:11:23] <r00t4rd3d> jp__, yeah those are collars
[19:11:40] <r00t4rd3d> which most hardware stores sell for alot cheaper then CNC places
[19:11:45] <tjb1> The machines end is for the oldham
[19:11:50] <tjb1> *machined
[19:12:00] <jp__> so is the intention of the collars to remove end play?
[19:12:13] <r00t4rd3d> hold it in place
[19:12:41] <jp__> act as a shoulder
[19:13:00] <tjb1> Thrust bearings
[19:13:21] <tjb1> Does that look ok that way r00t?
[19:14:51] <jp__> why not just machine shoulders on the screw?
[19:15:46] <tjb1> Shoulders for what?
[19:16:02] <jp__> your thrust bearings
[19:16:38] <tjb1> they have 1/2" inside diameter
[19:16:44] <tjb1> they wouldnt sit against anything
[19:17:20] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d:
[19:18:02] <jp__> Then i would say the bearings are too big. but should work fine considering the application and load
[19:18:19] <jp__> the shaft collar setup that is
[19:19:02] <tjb1> To make the thrust it against the screw I would have to machine the whole way through then the support bearing wouldnt work
[19:23:08] <jp__> you could pocket the thrust on one side and the pocket the support on the other side of your block. looks like you have plenty of material
[19:24:18] <jp__> but what you have looks like it could work. What kind of motors are driving this
[19:26:15] <tjb1> nema 23 stepper
[19:27:58] <r00t4rd3d> yeah it looks ok
[19:28:11] <tjb1> Can I cut that acme flush with the end of the support block?
[19:28:43] <jp__> do you need it longer?
[19:28:49] <tjb1> no
[19:28:59] <r00t4rd3d> i have my z axis lead screw set up the same way
[19:29:08] <r00t4rd3d> only in wood
[19:30:18] <tjb1> Cut it flush?
[19:31:00] <jp__> if you dont need it But if you ever wanted to put an encoder on it you could leave it proud
[19:31:10] <r00t4rd3d> i think he means the lead screw is sticking way out pass the end on one side
[19:32:07] <jp__> i know some motors dont have good encoder mounting options
[19:32:44] <jp__> so the end he's going to cut he could leave 1/4 to 1/2 for future murphy
[19:36:02] <tjb1> thats the bottom and it will never have an encoder
[19:37:57] <jp__> then cut it flush
[19:38:04] <r00t4rd3d> just got offered a 800 dollar a week job
[19:38:17] <r00t4rd3d> think i am going to pass though
[19:40:37] <Dolence> guys, i am having lots of trouble trying to get my Z axis working, someone who use steppe could please send ini file so I can take a look on where is my mistake?
[19:41:05] <r00t4rd3d> what controller and did you use stepconf?
[19:41:15] <r00t4rd3d> to set it up and test it
[19:42:46] <Dolence> i am using stepconf
[19:43:20] <Dolence> my controller is unknown, i had to measure all the output pins to get ti working
[19:43:27] <Dolence> or kind off
[19:43:28] <Dolence> *of
[19:43:44] <r00t4rd3d> unknown? picture?
[19:44:22] <Dolence> with Z axis pin invert checked, z min and max -12.5 and 0 and home -0.01
[19:44:52] <Dolence> when I press page down, the axis move down, pg up move up, but i cant get a job to start
[19:45:01] <Dolence> always says its outside z limit
[19:45:30] <Dolence> controller is under an heatsink
[19:45:59] <Dolence> it's ok z axis move from 0 to a negative number?
[19:53:15] <jp__> Should your max not be positive
[19:53:43] <jp__> or home is -.01?
[19:54:49] <jp__> sorry cant read today!!
[20:04:01] <Dolence> ok
[20:04:52] <Dolence> i have my home switch on top of z axis
[20:13:01] <r00t4rd3d> ur negative to negative
[20:13:06] <r00t4rd3d> you can do that
[20:13:24] <r00t4rd3d> you have no room for material
[20:13:31] <r00t4rd3d> atleast in your machines eyes
[20:14:12] <r00t4rd3d> you Z should be like 12.5 to -0.4 and 0 home
[20:15:19] <r00t4rd3d> you CANT do that*
[20:15:58] <jdh> my Z is negative down
[20:16:09] <r00t4rd3d> it should be
[20:16:28] <r00t4rd3d> or you wouldnt be able to cut into anything
[20:17:10] <r00t4rd3d> Dolence, so you have 12.5 inches of travel in your z axis?
[20:18:27] <Dolence> 12.5 centimeters
[20:18:36] <Dolence> this si my scenario
[20:18:44] <r00t4rd3d> to table travel would be like -.5 to 12.5 , Home location 0.0
[20:18:49] <r00t4rd3d> to/so
[20:18:50] <Dolence> i have my home and limit switches on the top of Z axis
[20:19:05] <r00t4rd3d> thats gonna suck
[20:19:08] <jdh> mine is -11.5 to 0.0
[20:19:14] <r00t4rd3d> has to go all the way up to home
[20:19:38] <Dolence> jdh, could you send youtr config file to me?
[20:19:45] <r00t4rd3d> my z is -0.08 to 10 , home 0
[20:19:59] <r00t4rd3d> err -0.8
[20:20:00] <Dolence> r00t4rd3d but you have limit and home switches on top?
[20:20:11] <r00t4rd3d> no, dont use switches at all
[20:20:16] <jdh> Dolence: I don't have a Z limit/home switch on this machine.
[20:20:16] <Dolence> i see
[20:20:17] <r00t4rd3d> limit or home
[20:21:38] <jdh> I do on another one, it is min -3.0, max 0.01
[20:22:50] <r00t4rd3d> so i dont think canon liked me calling their service department a pile of inbred retards.
[20:23:12] <jdh> surely they didn't understand what you meant.
[20:23:38] <r00t4rd3d> its in virginia, they knew.
[20:24:14] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d: so they sending you a free camera?
[20:24:20] <r00t4rd3d> everybody in west virginia is first cousins
[20:24:36] <r00t4rd3d> ReadError, thats what i am shooting for
[20:25:28] <r00t4rd3d> i called today, I want to speak to the supervisor, okay sir, just one moment. Hello this is supervisor, yeah i want to talk to your boss now.
[20:25:35] <jdh> does canon have an official stance that a third party card will work in their camera?
[20:25:50] <r00t4rd3d> yeah it is suppose to work
[20:26:04] <r00t4rd3d> they dont make their own memory cards anyway
[20:26:08] <jdh> officially supposed to work, or just happens to work?
[20:26:21] <r00t4rd3d> so all cards are technically 3rd party.
[20:26:26] <jdh> it's just a mem card issue?
[20:26:30] <jdh> not the wifi thing?
[20:26:40] <r00t4rd3d> the wifi thing, normal cards work fine
[20:27:19] <jdh> their official stance is that some third party wifi card will work in their camera and if not, they will make it work?
[20:27:51] <r00t4rd3d> all memory card are 3rd party. Canon does not manufacture memory cards.
[20:27:53] <Dolence> home should be on table or on top?
[20:28:03] <Dolence> i cant get it working ;(
[20:28:16] <jdh> home is up high, safe, out of the way.
[20:28:27] <Dolence> ok
[20:28:33] <r00t4rd3d> i would disable all limit and homing switches till you get it working
[20:28:37] <Dolence> it's how i have it
[20:28:56] <r00t4rd3d> then start adding them one at a time
[20:29:06] <Dolence> the other axis are ok
[20:29:16] <Dolence> just Z giving me a headache
[20:29:42] <jdh> mine did also (with the limit/home switch)
[20:30:01] <r00t4rd3d> jdh
https://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/support/consumer/eos_slr_camera_systems/eos_digital_slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t1i_ef_s_18_55mm_is_kit?pageKeyCode=prdAdvDetail&docId=0901e02480464938
[20:30:06] <r00t4rd3d> that is their stance
[20:30:22] <r00t4rd3d> The Canon EOS digital SLR cameras affected by this phenomenon will be inspected and repaired free of charge. If you own one of the affected cameras, please contact our Customer Support Center. Please register your EOS 60D, EOS Rebel XSi, EOS Rebel XS, EOS Rebel T3i, and EOS Rebel T1i .
[20:31:26] <jdh> seems simple enough then.
[20:32:09] <jdh> why did you have to have the main PCB replaced?
[20:33:56] <r00t4rd3d> i didnt
[20:34:17] <r00t4rd3d> i got the camera used so maybe someone else did
[20:36:20] <r00t4rd3d> i asked for a work history but they ignored that
[20:37:00] <r00t4rd3d> their tech support is super shitty
[20:37:26] <r00t4rd3d> their lucky i dont live in va beach no more
[20:37:39] <r00t4rd3d> or i would be going down there with a baseball bat
[20:39:46] <r00t4rd3d> everyone i talk to sounds like their part time job is crack selling thug
[20:40:43] <r00t4rd3d> i asked to speak to a non-ebonics white person today
[20:40:55] <jdh> gotta pay the rent somehow when the girls aren't working
[20:41:21] <r00t4rd3d> im not sure i dare send my camera back to them now
[20:42:45] <jdh> send it to nj or ca
[20:43:00] <r00t4rd3d> "i dont understand ebonics, can i talk to a white person?"
[20:43:01] <jdh> or, ebay it
[20:43:12] <jdh> I'm sure that went over well.
[20:43:49] <r00t4rd3d> well you should have heard this lady i got first
[20:44:02] <r00t4rd3d> i think she had some KFC in her mouth while talking to me
[20:44:19] <r00t4rd3d> i swore i heard her lick her fingers
[20:44:34] <jdh> are you from alabama or mississippi?
[20:44:40] <r00t4rd3d> new york
[20:52:36] <r00t4rd3d> im not racist much either, i voted for obama
[20:53:53] <r00t4rd3d> and i am going to again
[20:54:13] <r00t4rd3d> cause mittens is a mormon asshat
[20:56:38] <r00t4rd3d> read into mormonism, thats some retarded shit
[20:57:05] <r00t4rd3d> anyone who believes in that crap should be 86
[21:14:19] <jp__> Can an A axis in Linuxcnc be linear? is it as simple as changing the type in the ini?
[21:25:19] <skunkworks__> jp__: you could use U.. but I do no know what issues you would run into if you changed a rotory to linear. (give it a try)
[21:25:44] <jp__> Im wondering if i even need too
[21:26:19] <jp__> as long as i scale it the way i need i dont think it matters
[21:29:24] <jp__> Actually it would matter for speed settings would it not
[21:30:12] <skunkworks__> I think so.
[21:31:51] <jp__> the gcode output from slic3r is in mm for the a axis
[21:33:07] <jp__> it would be ok for the distance but the feeds would be messed
[21:33:08] <r00t4rd3d> i just changed my dirtbike tire in 30 minutes :D
[21:33:41] <ReadError> r00t4rd3d, you dont believe in magical underwear?
[21:33:49] <ReadError> i think we see who the crazy one is here...
[21:33:53] <ReadError> its obvious
[21:33:59] <r00t4rd3d> wait what?
[21:34:08] <ReadError> mormons have "magical underwear"
[21:34:11] <ReadError> its enchanted
[21:34:15] <ReadError> true story, look it up
[21:34:15] <skunkworks__> jp_ for a reprap?
[21:34:20] <r00t4rd3d> oh
[21:34:24] <jp__> yeah
[21:34:42] <jp__> homebrew but yes
[21:34:48] <skunkworks__> How are others doing it?
[21:35:01] <jp__> not too sure
[21:35:20] <r00t4rd3d> i want to get a 4 axis tb6560 and just put a hotend on my z axis
[21:35:42] <jp__> reprap uses an arduino so i guess its codded to have the a axis treated as linear
[21:36:00] <ReadError> oh lordy
[21:36:05] <ReadError> the reprappers are here?
[21:36:22] <ReadError> mormon god please save his soul!
[21:36:28] <r00t4rd3d> #reprap
[21:36:34] <skunkworks__> I think there are quite a few using linuxcnc for rep-raps - I just remember them having to convert the gcode so it ran the A axis
[21:37:19] <jp__> i get the gcode all ready using the a axis but wont the feed be messed up
[21:37:35] <r00t4rd3d> i initially wanted to build a cnc router so i could make my own parts for a reprap. How it all started.....
[21:37:37] <jp__> 30mm/s vs 30 deg/s
[21:38:20] <jp__> or am i missing something?
[21:39:32] <jp__> or if i just treat it as a unit is it a mute point
[21:44:29] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: How did you preload the thrust bearings?
[21:45:10] <r00t4rd3d> i have no idea what you mean by that
[21:45:32] <tjb1> how do you put a load between the 2 so they dont move during a direction change?
[21:45:49] <r00t4rd3d> fingers
[21:45:58] <tjb1> Do you know what I mean?
[21:46:21] <r00t4rd3d> i just used collars
[21:46:40] <tjb1> Well if there isnt some kind of pressure there will be movement
[21:46:53] <tjb1> I dont know if just pushing the collar against it is enough :)
[21:47:00] <r00t4rd3d> it is
[21:47:08] <r00t4rd3d> atleast it worked for me
[21:47:10] <tjb1> Did you grease the thrust before you put them in?
[21:47:22] <r00t4rd3d> im dont think im using thrust bearings
[21:47:33] <tjb1> Just collars?
[21:47:48] <r00t4rd3d> they are like skateboard wheel bearings that are 3/8
[21:48:18] <r00t4rd3d> are those thrust bearings?
[21:48:27] <jp__> nope
[21:48:51] <tjb1> they are like needle bearings but sideways
[21:49:02] <jp__> but they will take a bit of a side load
[21:49:37] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-R6ZZ-R6-ZZ-Ball-Bearings-ID-375-3-8-x-7-8-Bearing-/390460025797?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae93b2bc5
[21:49:46] <r00t4rd3d> those are what i used
[21:50:02] <r00t4rd3d> ball bearings :D
[21:50:14] <r00t4rd3d> im high tech
[21:50:17] <r00t4rd3d> back up
[21:50:33] <jp__> tjb1: use the collars to take up the gap if you cant get a .001" feeler gauge in you will be good
[21:50:55] <jp__> you may want to preload your nut
[21:51:28] <jp__> to do that with acme the easy way is to use two nuts on one screw
[21:51:30] <tjb1> those cant take side load
[21:51:38] <tjb1> those collars clamp on
[21:51:49] <tjb1> I have an antibacklash nut
[21:51:59] <jp__> plastic?
[21:52:07] <tjb1> yes
[21:52:10] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d:
http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2f0j00yBsTQovFlGcNM/Thrust-Needle-Roller-Bearing.jpg
[21:52:27] <tjb1> I think its acetal
[21:52:30] <jp__> you nut cant take any load either then
[21:52:44] <jp__> 25 lbs or something like that
[21:53:03] <tjb1> Thats more than enough
[21:53:44] <r00t4rd3d> is using the type if bearing i am using a bad thing?
[21:53:49] <r00t4rd3d> if/of
[21:53:58] <jp__> not for $7
[21:54:10] <jp__> when they blow up buy new ones
[21:54:22] <r00t4rd3d> i still have 3 left
[21:54:25] <tjb1> Show me a picture of your setup
[21:54:33] <tjb1> your probably not putting any sideload on the bearing itself anyway
[21:55:00] <tjb1> Most get sideload with those support bearings with the set screws
[21:55:06] <jp__> not with a big shaft collar pushing on it
[21:55:19] <tjb1> I doubt the collar is actually touching the bearing anyway
[21:55:21] <jp__> probably touching the outside race
[21:56:29] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/y7gYN.jpg
[21:56:34] <r00t4rd3d> u cant see crap really in that
[21:56:49] <tjb1> cant see anything that I need to see :P
[21:57:02] <tjb1> well I can see the y axis
[21:57:08] <tjb1> Where is the collar on that one?
[21:57:28] <r00t4rd3d> no collars on my y , only z
[21:57:59] <tjb1> What kind of coupling is on y?
[21:58:19] <r00t4rd3d> just a normal flex one
[21:58:35] <tjb1> thats the only thing holding your acme in place?
[21:58:55] <r00t4rd3d> my Y axis has a normal lead screw, machined ends
[21:59:11] <tjb1> Oh so that block holds it?
[21:59:54] <r00t4rd3d> yeah, the bearing blocks
[21:59:56] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/18-3-8-12-ACME-Lead-Screw-w-Delrin-Nut-/110947270887?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d4f900e7
[22:00:02] <r00t4rd3d> that lead screw is what i have on my Y
[22:00:19] <tjb1> ah ok
[22:00:28] <tjb1> I went to shop and turned that end today
[22:00:36] <tjb1> Its a big PITA to work in the shop here
[22:01:35] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/pzjF5.jpg
[22:02:03] <r00t4rd3d> my old setup but the lead screw is still the same
[22:02:26] <r00t4rd3d> you can see my collars in that too on my Z
[22:02:42] <tjb1> they sitting against the outer race of the bearing
[22:04:02] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/CSspj.jpg
[22:04:07] <r00t4rd3d> alittle better pic
[22:04:40] <tjb1> Those carriages suck lol
[22:04:46] <tjb1> Im trying to make 6 of them
[22:04:52] <tjb1> School doesnt have any metric
[22:05:12] <r00t4rd3d> wanna see something funny?
[22:05:14] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/uFh1e.jpg
[22:05:27] <tjb1> how small it is?
[22:05:40] <r00t4rd3d> my mom said it was average
[22:05:57] <tjb1> Im using 8.5" carriages on my z lol
[22:07:02] <r00t4rd3d> i think they are like 6inches long
[22:07:38] <tjb1> those little ones are 4
[22:07:45] <tjb1> if they are the CNCRP ones
[22:07:50] <r00t4rd3d> ya
[22:08:05] <tjb1> I have the 8.5 on z and I will still have like 7" travel
[22:08:55] <r00t4rd3d> thats overkill
[22:09:55] <r00t4rd3d> i use 8mm linear rods on my z
[22:10:13] <r00t4rd3d> i did have them on my Y
[22:11:24] <tjb1> rather have too much
[22:11:31] <r00t4rd3d> adds weight
[22:11:41] <r00t4rd3d> more stress
[22:14:00] <tjb1> oh well ;)
[22:18:48] <tjb1> r00t, what kind of finish does CNCRP put on their parts
[22:18:55] <tjb1> looks like a tumbler or something
[22:25:09] <r00t4rd3d> i have no idea
[22:25:12] <r00t4rd3d> the shiny kind
[22:25:16] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/quarter-dollar-coin-3d-model/484366
[22:25:23] <r00t4rd3d> who can make me this?
[22:25:28] <r00t4rd3d> for free
[22:36:51] <tjb1> print it?
[22:47:54] <r00t4rd3d> i want to cut one in foam
[22:49:53] <r00t4rd3d> i wanna try this
[22:49:53] <r00t4rd3d> http://imgur.com/a/n4gTq
[22:50:48] <r00t4rd3d> im trying to make my own in ArtCam
[23:42:45] <Thetawaves> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007W66BRG/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B007W66BRG&linkCode=as2&tag=ou00-20
[23:42:50] <Thetawaves> READ EM AND WEEP BOYS
[23:48:10] <ScribbleJ> Saw what
[23:48:12] <ScribbleJ> what
[23:48:15] <ScribbleJ> That's insane
[23:48:30] <ScribbleJ> That's possibly the stupidest product I've seen in months.
[23:48:34] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[23:48:52] <ScribbleJ> I dunno about you guys but I wear out a keyboard at least twice a year.
[23:49:04] <r00t4rd3d> i smash them for fun
[23:49:12] <r00t4rd3d> and spill drinks on them
[23:49:56] <r00t4rd3d> minus the keyboard case I could build a better one for cheaper
[23:51:10] <ScribbleJ> They've really made it retro by including VGA and no HDMI
[23:51:28] <ScribbleJ> I mean, that and copying the design concept of the Commodore 64.
[23:52:12] <r00t4rd3d> d525 has no hdmi options
[23:52:20] <r00t4rd3d> vga only
[23:53:08] <r00t4rd3d> if they were 150ish, maybe
