#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-09-03

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[01:58:38] <DJ9DJ> moin
[01:59:52] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[02:01:14] <DJ9DJ> good morning viet^Wchannel & Jymmm :)
[02:03:09] <Jymmm> hola
[02:30:02] <Loetmichel> DJ9DJ: you have to yell that, ;-)
[02:32:38] <DJ9DJ> hrhr
[02:32:47] <DJ9DJ> perhaps next time :D
[03:12:17] <Jymmm> Loetmichel: GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MONRING VIETNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM!
[03:20:08] <alex_joni> bah, too early for that
[03:20:29] <DJ9DJ> lol
[03:51:08] * Loetmichel calls Jymmm robin williams from now on ;-)
[03:51:57] <Jymmm> heh
[04:02:28] <alex_joni> robin reliant
[07:46:34] <r00t4rd3d> w00t, another logitech g700 dead
[09:03:29] <WillenCMD> Good Morning
[09:04:54] <archivist> 3pm, strange morning
[09:06:45] <WillenCMD> its all relative
[09:08:44] <WillenCMD> i took on a huge project, but its coming along really nicely
[09:09:01] <WillenCMD> first a made an auto netting program for hal components
[09:09:22] <WillenCMD> then i decided i was going to re-do a setup program for linuxcnc entierely
[09:09:47] <WillenCMD> no its under way, i have enhanced the latency testing
[09:09:59] <JT-Shop> cool
[09:10:06] <archivist> any idea when the Barber Coleman type S hobbers were made?
[09:10:23] <WillenCMD> wow i would say 1960's or before
[09:10:39] <WillenCMD> i never got you that manual, and we do have some for the s-machine
[09:11:02] <archivist> I was wondering if the manuals had dates in :)
[09:11:17] <WillenCMD> they are antique's my friend lol
[09:12:04] <WillenCMD> i could send you so many hob's that are worn down, you would have every pitch
[09:12:19] <archivist> antique! looks shiny http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2012/2012_08_31_Barber_Colman_S_type/IMG_1340.JPG
[09:12:51] <WillenCMD> wow, man its looking really good
[09:13:10] <archivist> and the other pic in that subdirectory
[09:13:58] <WillenCMD> do you need drive gears?
[09:14:08] <archivist> been thinking about best way to cnc without any drilling into castings so can be returned to original
[09:14:43] <WillenCMD> honestly i think they work pretty effeciently the way the are, what do you think you will gain?
[09:14:44] <archivist> I have no gears and only a few hobs to fit that shaft
[09:15:10] <WillenCMD> i have tubs full of old hobs, and boxes, and boxes of gears
[09:15:10] <archivist> I gain helical as well as any tooth count
[09:15:32] <WillenCMD> thats true
[09:15:41] <archivist> although head rotation is limited
[09:16:13] <WillenCMD> Ill ask my dad if i can have some of the stuff we have laying around. Box it up and send it to you, you just pay for shipping
[09:16:39] <archivist> getting the worm in the drive set up will be fun to keep its accuracy
[09:16:50] <WillenCMD> they buy all kinds of stuff, then again we have16 hobbing machines, 5 gleasons, 3 S-machines
[09:17:13] <archivist> I didnt know what the adjuster screws did till I got it to pieces !
[09:17:25] <WillenCMD> does it feel worn at all?
[09:17:47] <archivist> not very worn if at all
[09:17:58] <WillenCMD> thats good, what about the bearings?
[09:18:06] <archivist> adjustable
[09:18:19] <WillenCMD> sleeve type or angular contact?
[09:18:49] <archivist> sleeve but with a slit and outer taper and a pull nut
[09:19:09] <WillenCMD> that was the first machine i learned to set up... so i think its crazy you have it
[09:19:40] <archivist> not taken the bearings out but seen in lathes etc so used to the type
[09:19:56] <WillenCMD> i wonder if you could raise the head for larger od's
[09:20:38] <WillenCMD> i think your limited on clearance at the arbour though
[09:21:37] <archivist> the casting is all one piece
[09:22:15] <archivist> if I made a new assembly then yes
[09:24:12] <archivist> part of me thinks the restoration is too nice to cnc :)
[09:24:52] <archivist> I wonder what the cheapest shipping of a box of gears would be
[09:25:02] <Tom_itx> standard post
[09:25:03] <Tom_itx> i bet
[09:25:22] <Tom_itx> they're all too damn high anymore
[09:25:31] <archivist> I shudder at some shipping quotes
[09:26:28] <Tom_itx> i wonder where i'd get info for a certain pitch thread to be put on an OD to calculate the root diameter
[09:26:30] <WillenCMD> probably $50
[09:26:44] <WillenCMD> van curren
[09:26:44] <Tom_itx> to make something like this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/blddk/7272427056/in/photostream
[09:27:02] <Tom_itx> so it doesn't come out with an odd thread at the end
[09:28:25] <WillenCMD> van keuren
[09:29:00] <WillenCMD> they are a most for gear calculation's including worm's measurement over wires
[09:29:17] <WillenCMD> standard pitch, long addendum
[09:29:27] <Tom_itx> i bet it's in the machinery handbook
[09:29:38] <Tom_itx> i just haven't looked yet
[09:29:39] <WillenCMD> it is but, not nearly as in depth
[09:30:16] <WillenCMD> archivist: We have a helical gear calculator tool if your intersted, its just a spreadsheet and a form
[09:30:36] <WillenCMD> My dad wrote it
[09:31:26] <JT-Shop> flat rate boxes are the best if it fits
[09:32:00] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop don't they still have a weight limit?
[09:33:05] <WillenCMD> no i don't believe they do
[09:33:05] <WillenCMD> but im sepculating
[09:35:19] <WillenCMD> So the new latency testing program, i have it opening serverl glx gear windows, sending a large packet over the internet, and minimizing/maximizing a few windows, along with rotating them around the screen... anyone think of something else to put more load on the computer?
[09:35:19] <WillenCMD> several*
[09:35:37] <WillenCMD> all being done with a python scrpts
[09:43:32] <archivist> really it is a huge graphics move
[09:43:43] <WillenCMD> noted: i'll have it direct some stdout into a .txt file, have it launch gedit and scroll continuously
[09:43:50] <Tom_itx> zlog
[09:44:26] <archivist> WillenCMD, I was using the scroll tab on the rhs
[09:44:38] <Tom_itx> WillenCMD is the info on their website?
[09:44:43] <Tom_itx> the van Keuren site
[09:45:34] <Tom_itx> just looks like a catalog download page
[09:45:55] <WillenCMD> http://www.bonanza.com/listings/Precision-Measuring-Tools-by-Van-Keuren-25th-Anniversary/17785956?gpid=21297750541&gpkwd=&goog_pla=1&gclid=CMaPycnQmbICFYk-Mgod3XEAZg
[09:46:09] <WillenCMD> thats what the book looks like
[09:46:24] <WillenCMD> i don't know if they still sell them or not, but you can pick up a used one. Well worth it
[09:46:38] <WillenCMD> There is all the gear Theory one could desire in there
[09:46:40] <archivist> hmm I dont have that !
[09:47:29] <archivist> my gear books http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=621.833
[09:50:17] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: there is a weight limit for international addresses
[09:50:18] <WillenCMD> thats good collection there
[09:51:13] <WillenCMD> S machine gears are pretty small though, if i just gave you enough for the minimum to the maximum tooth allowance i don't know if it would weigh that much
[09:51:40] <WillenCMD> most of the time, your using idler's any way
[09:52:34] <archivist> I got a book of tables a couple of weeks ago for helicals published by Michigan Tool Co
[09:53:37] <archivist> with the S types cam feed helicals are out the question without adding a proper feed mechanism
[09:54:11] <archivist> for helical I can still use the 5 axis mill as I do now
[09:55:14] <archivist> Tom_itx, I assume you want to make an extruder with that form
[09:55:58] <Tom_itx> that's the goal
[09:58:21] <archivist> using a tap as your hob?
[09:59:11] <Tom_itx> yeah probably
[09:59:18] <archivist> just gear A axis to spindle and dive in sideways with a cutter, will suddenly look good at the right depth when the pcd of the work matched the pitch of the cutter
[09:59:35] <archivist> cp not pcd
[09:59:37] <Tom_itx> no cnc here
[09:59:40] <Tom_itx> just a lathe
[09:59:43] <Tom_itx> and a tap
[10:01:23] <archivist> then tap in lathe chuck and work on a loose pivot on top slide pile in till looks reasonable
[10:02:08] <archivist> definitely a bodge
[10:02:16] <Tom_itx> i know
[10:02:40] <archivist> a centre to support the tap end
[10:02:42] <Tom_itx> i thought about using a drill and disengaging the chuck
[10:02:48] <Tom_itx> and let it turn free
[10:03:20] <archivist> I think you need very low friction
[10:03:27] <Tom_itx> yeah i agree
[10:03:35] <Tom_itx> i'll try your idea
[10:03:58] <Tom_itx> i gotta figure out what size things need to be first
[10:38:19] <joe9> is G01 F<Feedrate> always in inches per minute or will it be mm per minute when G21 (metric mode)?
[10:39:26] <micges> mm/min in g21 mode
[10:39:31] <cpresser> joe9: i only use G21, there it is mm/min
[10:40:45] <joe9> is a feedrate of 152 very high in G21?
[10:40:54] <joe9> i expect that to be 6inches per minute
[10:40:59] <archivist> gets more confusing if you have a rotary
[10:41:20] <DaViruz> joe9: correct
[10:41:33] <joe9> micges, cpresser: the machine seems to be faster than at 6 inches per minute
[10:43:06] <cpresser> 6ipm is kind of slow.. i do rapid moves with ~200ipm
[10:43:07] <archivist> your machining feed rate depends on many factors
[10:43:41] <joe9> G02 X 9.600000 Y 10.000000 I 0.400000 J 0.000000 F 152.000000
[10:43:44] <joe9> is my gcode
[10:43:46] <r00t4rd3d> like screw pitch, what controller you have and what steppers you use and power supply
[10:43:57] <archivist> cut per tooth per rev at revs per minute
[10:44:00] <joe9> and there is a G94 G21 G17 G90 above that.
[10:44:30] <cpresser> for which material to cut?
[10:44:44] <joe9> it is just simple engraving material
[10:44:48] <joe9> cpresser: ^^
[10:44:52] <joe9> pretty soft, imho.
[10:45:40] <archivist> some material is sticky
[10:46:00] <joe9> archivist: oh, ok.
[10:46:38] <r00t4rd3d> plastic can melt and clog your flutes
[10:46:44] <cpresser> you should calculate how much material one tooth removes.
[10:47:21] <cpresser> for most plastics you want to remove about ~0.1mm per tooth
[10:47:27] <archivist> and then adjust for material and lubrication
[10:48:15] <joe9> ok, thanks. I am going at a stepdown = 0.1mm and stepover 0.2mm
[10:49:04] <cpresser> in the end you will have to do some experimantation to find good settings. it took me about a year of learning to get things working smoothly :)
[10:50:50] <joe9> cpresser: ok, thanks.
[10:51:46] <cpresser> when you are going to cut steel and aluminium, there are a lot of good books and tables around; but for plastics there is no such thing :/
[10:51:50] <archivist> specially if the calculation give you a resonance on a flimsy machine
[10:52:11] <archivist> or resonance of the work
[10:53:38] <TekniQue> I encountered chatter when turning cast iron once, I managed to reduce it a lot by using different speeds for alternating passes
[10:55:22] <archivist> tool overhang is a common cause :)
[10:58:58] <syyl> of course, cpresser
[10:59:15] <syyl> every tool manufacturer that makes tooling for machining plasics supplies you with the cutting parameters
[11:02:02] <joe9> is there any technique to clear out the G55 offsets on every "Home All"?
[11:02:19] <joe9> I added some code to axis.py, but that is intermittently crashing the axis gui.
[11:03:17] <cpresser> syyl: do you have a link to one of those tool manufacturers? i did talk a lot to the people at evonik-röhm, they told me to experiment myself
[11:03:48] <syyl> i got my tooling for plastics from garant, thats a german tool supplier
[11:04:06] <syyl> http://www.hoffmann-group.com/int/trading-competence/garant.html
[11:04:14] <syyl> they provide the parameters too
[11:10:34] <cpresser> syyl: thats a nice website. unfortunately i cant seem to find values for milling without lubricant.
[11:10:51] <cpresser> but nevertheless they provide a lot of usefull data :)
[11:13:22] <syyl> http://www.toolscout.de/ToolScout/?rvn=1
[11:13:24] <syyl> try this :D
[11:16:07] <syyl> go for tool selection -> quick selection
[11:17:02] <syyl> in the end, you can show the cutting datas for the selected tools/materials
[11:17:07] <cpresser> yep, got it. thats what i am looking at.
[11:17:27] <syyl> i have the paperversion, its pretty handy
[11:18:06] <cpresser> try to select 'Acrylic -> Plexiglas' then 'Vollnutfräsen'. so far i only found tools which require flood-coolant
[11:18:44] * cpresser needs to order the paper-version. so far i am using the tool-catalog from 'Horn'
[11:18:47] <syyl> http://www.hoffmann-group.com/uk/service-competence/downloads/machining-handbook.html
[11:19:04] <syyl> thats the e-version of the paper version ;)
[11:19:20] <syyl> somwhere theres also a pdf download
[11:20:08] <cpresser> if you switch to german, they offer a pdf.
[11:21:49] <cpresser> still, i wonder why the 'application experts' at röhm told me to figure out things myself. they didnt provide me with any hints to tool manufacturers or cutting data.
[11:22:10] <cpresser> and i even payed good money for a 'expert plexiglas training'
[11:23:24] <Jymmm> trying to machine plastic?
[11:27:39] <Jymmm> Tooling that's specifically made for machining plastic and does a damn fine job of it too.... http://www.plasticrouting.com/
[11:35:10] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2197515/Become-music-producer-need-Fisher-Price-record-player-3D-printer.html?printingPage=true
[12:45:46] <skunkworks__> y
[12:46:05] <Jymmm> not
[12:46:11] <skunkworks__> heh
[12:46:57] <syyl> because!
[12:51:30] <mhaberler> jthornton: how was that trick again to run halshow?
[12:54:02] <ReadError> is there a program that is good for measurement?
[12:54:10] <ReadError> like angles and proportion
[12:54:14] <ReadError> like for example
[12:54:36] <ReadError> if i scanned a part with a ruler, i could select 1cm exactly, and it would scale itself to that scale
[12:54:40] <ReadError> so i could make measurements?
[13:04:48] <Jymmm> If you have an image that has a reference point in it (a ruler as example), you can resize the image to give a 1:1 scale. You can take that image as a "Layer 1" is some aplications and use antoher layer to draw/trace the actual image.
[13:06:44] <Jymmm> ReadError: I use CorelDraw for such things, but I suspect other drawing/graphic apps have the same functionality.
[13:24:21] <jthornton> mhaberler http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/gui/gui06d.html
[13:40:59] <cncbasher> great tutorial JT
[13:41:51] <cncbasher> how easy would it be to create a pdf .. for off line reading perhaps
[13:48:27] <jthornton> I'm not sure how it is done but the tutorial is asciidoc based and I use a makefile to build the html
[13:48:53] <jthornton> I found a guy on asciidoc to guide me in making the makefile
[13:55:08] <cncbasher> it's so easy to understand John , clear and concise hats off to ya
[13:55:08] <jthornton> thanks
[13:55:08] <jthornton> which one are you looking at?
[13:55:09] <cncbasher> now i need to understand it all , you give me no excuses now
[13:55:10] <cncbasher> glade gui
[13:55:10] <cncbasher> 06
[13:55:11] <jthornton> ah yea that is my last one and they do seem to get better as I go along
[13:55:18] <jthornton> I have a few more pages left to do like homing and a few other things
[13:55:18] <jthornton> status bar for errors etc
[13:55:18] <cncbasher> my thoughts were to have it as pdf so can be offline , etc i just find it easier than trying to dual screen stuff
[13:55:18] <jthornton> yea, they are short enough to not waste a whole tree printing them
[13:55:18] <cncbasher> perhaps more of a seperate manual
[13:55:18] <jthornton> separate from?
[13:55:19] <cncbasher> if it's also incorporated into the build tree , then the docs automake would build as pdf's
[13:55:19] <jthornton> yea that would build pdf's
[13:55:19] <cncbasher> make a seperate linuxcnc doc tree for gui screen building
[13:58:33] <cncbasher> my sugestion is as a seperate 'screenbuilder manual' rather than incorporate into the mainstream manuals
[14:15:46] <jthornton> I think for now I'll concentrate on trying to finish gui6, the doc builder is so picky it ain't funny and it takes me quite a while to add a master doc
[14:16:31] <cncbasher> yea sure it was just thoughts
[14:18:16] <jthornton> good idea, just very time consuming to add anything
[14:18:29] <jthornton> and frustrating when it won't build
[14:19:15] <jthornton> if you see any typos or mistooks let me know
[14:19:25] <cncbasher> will do
[14:19:38] * jthornton heads to the shop
[15:24:04] <Tom_itx> archivist, i don't think it turned out too bad
[15:24:06] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/reprap/drive2.jpg
[15:25:08] <archivist> a bit deep else ok
[15:26:04] <archivist> technique works
[15:30:05] <Tom_itx> i went a little deep on purpose
[15:30:47] <Tom_itx> actually it's about half the depth of a M4 tap drill size
[15:30:56] <Tom_itx> that's what i figured it with
[15:30:57] <Skullworks> filament drive for a rep-rap?
[15:31:01] <Tom_itx> yessir
[15:32:54] <Skullworks> someday I'll finish the one I started...
[15:33:55] <jp__> tom_itx: nice job!!
[15:34:01] <Skullworks> "Life is what happens to you while you are busy making plans." - John Lennon
[15:34:47] <archivist> never do today what you can put off till tomorrow
[15:35:31] <Tom_itx> unless it's fun
[15:35:51] <jp__> Did you use a tap to do that?
[15:35:55] <Skullworks> Well my plans for today got cancelled due to a flat tire on the truck, and tire stores are all closed for the Holiday.
[15:36:23] * Jymmm hands Skullworks some duct tape
[15:36:31] <Jymmm> Skullworks: no spare?
[15:38:18] <Skullworks> an 18yr old bicycle tire type - it got me home - but I don't want to put any loads on it. - And the plans for today included moving the bullet casting machine and about 1300lbs of lead.
[15:38:49] <Jymmm> oh donut spare
[15:39:34] <Skullworks> Truck is a 96 - and its the original OEM spare - OK 16 years old...
[15:39:57] <Skullworks> my how time ( and the miles) fly
[15:41:05] <Skullworks> I am hunting down a OEM steel rim to keep a real spare, just have not found the time as yet.
[15:41:44] <Jymmm> craigslist?
[15:42:30] <Skullworks> the CL search engine gives you results for everything but what you really want.
[15:42:49] <Jymmm> toss up a WANTED ad
[15:43:09] <Jymmm> It's how I got my Honda EU2000i generator
[15:43:43] <archivist> can I put a wanted ad for money
[15:43:52] <Skullworks> I do hunt CL when I am trapped at work having to kill time ( can not update servers till 830pm when reports have finished...)
[15:44:26] <Jymmm> archivist: sure, but it's CL... So there's no telling what you have to do for it
[15:45:49] <Skullworks> I'm sure someone may have some confederate notes they might make you a deal on...
[15:47:03] <Skullworks> US has bills in rainbow and regular - mexico has 2 sets of notes out too - gets kinda confusing.
[15:48:27] <Skullworks> Never mind all the mix of coins... Heinz 57 + Baskin Robbins 31 just on quarters alone.
[15:52:02] <Tom_itx> jp__ yes
[15:56:42] <jp__> Tom_itx: Thats how i did mine as well works pretty good on O1.
[15:56:49] <Skullworks> I want a WL-435, but I doubt I'd find one local on CL
[16:03:09] <mhaberler> gee, the userland parport driver works just fine
[16:03:32] <skunkworks__> yay?
[16:03:44] <mhaberler> yay.
[16:04:03] <mhaberler> http://static.mah.priv.at/public/uparport.png
[16:05:31] <mhaberler> "some jitter" since no RT provisions (yet), but that would be the base for the rt-preempt hal_parport driver
[16:05:32] <JT-Shop> mhaberler: did you see my reply to you?
[16:05:51] <mhaberler> yes, thanks - I'm current net-challenged
[16:05:57] <mhaberler> got it to work
[16:06:01] <JT-Shop> cool
[16:10:28] <skunkworks__> yay! :)
[16:10:57] <JT-Shop> yay!
[16:12:32] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:15:45] <mhaberler> cu
[16:58:38] <r00t4rd3d> cme
[17:14:07] <jp__> Can pncconf be configured for two motors on one axix?
[18:49:47] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/KIJi6.png
[19:12:49] <r00t4rd3d> lol i called this girl on reddit "princess" and now she is flipping out on me
[19:12:55] <alex4nder> laf.
[19:16:18] <mrsun> meh doesnt all girls want to be princesses ?
[19:18:59] <r00t4rd3d> guess not
[19:26:29] <jp__> Where in the "ini" can you set the max jog speed of the slider in axis
[19:26:43] <jp__> mine is stuck at 60ipm
[19:27:47] <jdh> max_linear_velocity maybe
[19:29:33] <Tom_itx> in the display section
[19:29:46] <Tom_itx> lemme look
[19:30:42] <r00t4rd3d> doesnt stepconf figure out what your max jog is?
[19:32:29] <atom1> MAX_LINEAR_VELOCITY and MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE in the [DISPLAY] section of the ini
[19:33:09] <Tom_itx> if MAX_FEED_OVERRIDE is 1 it will be 100%
[19:33:36] <jp__> What one is the jog speed?
[19:33:36] <Tom_itx> mine is 1.25 iirc
[19:33:57] <jp__> My max vel is 1600ipm
[19:34:14] <jp__> but jog only goes to 60 ipm
[19:34:33] <atom1> in the display section?
[19:34:51] <jp__> in axis checking the ini now
[19:35:09] <jdh> change the 1.0 to 26.66666666666666
[19:35:10] <atom1> MAX_VELOCITY = 1.40
[19:35:12] <jdh> give or take
[19:35:14] <atom1> MAX_ACCELERATION = 51
[19:35:14] <atom1> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 77
[19:35:19] <atom1> in my axis section
[19:35:45] <jp__> MAX_VELOCITY = 1
[19:36:45] <jp__> that did it
[19:37:46] <jp__> Gonna need some weight on this thing.
[19:38:03] <atom1> i put a counterweight on my Z axis
[19:39:11] <jp__> The z and yaxis are on the top. so on yaxis rapids the whole machine shakes on the table
[19:52:59] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=19346
[20:02:53] <r00t4rd3d> 5132 DXF and other art files
[20:37:43] <r00t4rd3d> I like finding grammar nazi's on reddit. I friend them and make their lives miserable.
[20:38:22] <r00t4rd3d> your, arent, lose/loose, would of
[20:38:26] <r00t4rd3d> they joys
[20:38:29] <r00t4rd3d> dammit
[20:38:32] <r00t4rd3d> the*
[20:43:14] <ReadError> their there theyre
[20:43:16] <ReadError> GET EM
[20:58:41] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.reddit.com/user/Readerror
[20:58:44] <r00t4rd3d> is that you?
[20:58:47] <ReadError> no
[20:58:54] <ReadError> some scab took my name
[20:59:11] <r00t4rd3d> did you ask them for it?
[20:59:23] <ReadError> or shit
[20:59:27] <ReadError> i could be me
[20:59:31] <ReadError> i just dont know how to recover it
[20:59:50] <alex4nder> yoh
[20:59:50] <r00t4rd3d> not adding verified email = fucked
[21:00:03] <r00t4rd3d> or guess your pass
[21:02:35] <r00t4rd3d> i took 4 naps today
[21:02:51] <ReadError> bit much?
[21:02:57] * ReadError haz work tomorrow
[21:03:03] <r00t4rd3d> trying to quit smoking
[21:03:08] <ReadError> fortunately i just crawl out of bed and hobble over to the PC
[21:03:17] <r00t4rd3d> what do you do?
[21:03:18] <ReadError> and pretend to work
[21:03:21] <ReadError> linux sys admin
[21:03:24] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[21:03:50] <ReadError> its cool
[21:04:01] <ReadError> but its sad when this youngbuck has to school the older guys on how2linux
[21:04:07] <ReadError> its like bro you are 45
[21:04:17] <ReadError> coming to me asking questions? if i was 45 i would be gawdlike
[21:04:48] <r00t4rd3d> get me a job
[21:06:36] <r00t4rd3d> i never see jobs like that around here
[21:06:44] <ReadError> heh
[21:06:50] <ReadError> well they keep me around to fix shit when it breaks
[21:07:02] <ReadError> and as long as you have stupid people banging on keyboards, it tends to happen
[21:09:32] <r00t4rd3d> what distro?
[21:09:56] <ReadError> redhat enterprise
[21:10:12] <r00t4rd3d> icky.
[21:11:03] <ReadError> nah its good for production
[21:20:10] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/ZIWj5.jpg
[21:20:16] <r00t4rd3d> pretty cool looking wallpaper
[21:30:08] <WillenCMD> anybody want to test drive an auto hal generator?
[21:33:35] <ReadError> screenshots?
[21:45:29] <WillenCMD> sure
[21:51:34] <Jymmm> ve7it: ltns
[21:51:55] <ve7it> Jymmm, cheers
[21:52:25] <Jymmm> ve7it: hiding? jumped bail? stole $10M in maple syrup?
[21:52:53] <ve7it> I mostly use my tablet these days and the poor power sucking desktop only gets fired up a few times a week
[21:53:15] <Jymmm> lol
[21:54:13] <ve7it> fishing has been terrible this year.... I spent all winter making gadgets on the cnc to outfit the boat, and the freezer is still empty
[21:54:45] <Jymmm> ve7it: did you put the boat in the water?
[21:55:07] <ve7it> oh crap
[21:55:46] <Jymmm> ve7it: did you leave the water in the boat?
[21:56:24] <ve7it> no, I built a crane to lift it up onto the bank when not in use
[21:56:52] <Jymmm> ve7it: can you make rooftop deposits?
[21:57:41] <ve7it> not that big a crane.... and I get tired cranking it
[21:58:01] <Jymmm> they have this thing called electricity now
[22:00:10] <ve7it> man.... I am getting so many "enlargement" emails, I think I need to check the junk in the trunk
[22:00:20] <Jymmm> ve7it: wait, you using a tablet to save electricity but have an HF rig?
[22:00:33] <Jymmm> ve7it: maye they are trying to tell you something ;)
[22:07:25] <ve7it> Jymmm, cul.... 73 gotta run
[22:07:32] <Jymmm> 73