#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-08-27

[00:16:00] <Jymmm> Skullworks: LOL, Just need a ATF permit and open your own factory =)
[00:16:10] <Jymmm> AmmoRUs
[00:16:27] <Skullworks> Had one for 12 years
[00:16:36] <Jymmm> oh
[00:16:52] <Jymmm> Skullworks: Are you familue with DutcheWerkz by chance?
[00:16:58] <Skullworks> Custom Firearm manufacture.
[00:18:40] <Skullworks> Does not ring a bell - but its been nearly 12hrs since my last cup of coffee.
[00:19:18] <Jymmm> Skullworks: .25 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ortgies_Semi-Automatic_Pistol
[00:21:00] <Jymmm> Skullworks: It's in need of some TLC, just nobody knows it enough
[00:22:37] <Skullworks> 25acp aka 6.35x16 is a weak round - the 32 is better and the 9mm K (aka 380acp) is even better
[00:24:13] <Jymmm> Skullworks: I have a G17, but it's not very "compact" as I'm in Calif. The .25 I have just won't fire correctly; dimples rounds, but doens't fire.
[00:25:08] <Jymmm> tried different ammo brands too
[00:25:51] <Skullworks> whats wrong with it - I would thing that a complete teardown, wash in hot water with Tide in a ultra sound tank, blow out with compressed air and oil EVERYTHING with Breakfree CLP.
[00:27:05] <Skullworks> yup - need to use a pipe cleaner thruogh the firing pin hole - make sure there is no junk gumming up the movement of the pin.
[00:27:26] <Jymmm> No ultrasound, but do have a nitrogen tank to blow/displace water.
[00:27:46] <Skullworks> but it needs to be fully stripped down when you clean it.
[00:28:25] <Skullworks> CA... I'm a long displaced political refugee from there...
[00:28:48] <Jymmm> heh, you sound like you are in Texas
[00:28:49] <Skullworks> Good times back in the day
[00:28:55] <Skullworks> Colorado
[00:29:00] <Jymmm> ah, ok
[00:29:37] <Skullworks> Left the Domesticated West coast for the midwest free zone.
[00:31:06] <Skullworks> Texas raises great cattle and great Women, but it also tends to raise the temp higher than I prefer too.
[00:31:22] <Jymmm> Heh, and humidity!!!
[00:32:00] <Skullworks> Oh please - not that... I have family in FL and MO
[00:32:14] <Skullworks> Purgatory!
[00:32:32] <Jymmm> I said humidity, not hurricanes =)
[00:32:43] <Jymmm> Skullworks: This is what I have... http://i50.tinypic.com/x6kfpv.jpg
[00:33:10] <Jymmm> no parts list
[00:33:22] <Skullworks> If you take 1 sylable out of MO its pronounced Misry
[00:34:07] <skunkworks__> Skullworks: It g64px.xxx activates the naive cam - that tries to blend multible segments together so that the effective length is longer - so velocity is higher...
[00:34:12] <Jymmm> dont tell that to JT-Shop-3 Skullworks, he lives there =)
[00:35:17] <Skullworks> Lots of fine folk there - just not my style.
[00:35:58] <Jymmm> Skullworks: you like breakfree over copper grease?
[00:37:21] <Skullworks> I was wondering it there was a way to extend the look ahead such that the velocity is not limited to what the machine can stop in one or 2 blocks.
[00:38:19] <Jymmm> I'd suspect so, with inverse in overall speed
[00:38:20] <Skullworks> Copper grease is OK for internal areas where the grease can not escape - I don't like it for exposed areas
[00:39:13] <Jymmm> Skullworks: Ah, I've been using in mostly on the slide for my G17; never heard of breakfree before.
[00:39:46] <Jymmm> s/in/it/
[00:40:38] <Jymmm> Skullworks: would tide bath w/o ultrsound tank do any good?
[00:40:41] <skunkworks__> Skullworks: not at the moment... but if the segments are colinear withing the px.xxxx then they will be combined into a longer segment..
[00:41:30] <Jymmm> oh sorry there Skullworks, I had mistaken you two
[00:41:35] <Jymmm> skunkworks__:
[00:41:41] <Jymmm> that is
[00:41:57] <Skullworks> I would think that even cutting a spline path with segments of maybe .002" could be done at full speed if the breaking acceleration can be applied in a controlled method where the machine continues to follow the programmed path within the G64 P(tol).
[00:42:04] <Jymmm> all you SK's look alike ;)
[00:42:50] <Skullworks> I run a puny Knee mill and he has that Monster K&T
[00:43:06] <Jymmm> heh
[00:43:25] <skunkworks__> runs fast enough for me.. still can destroy things before I can get to the estop..
[00:43:43] * Jymmm lol @ skunkworks__
[00:43:49] <Skullworks> Oh I'm sure.
[00:43:55] <Jymmm> skunkworks__: NEED MORE BRB's!
[00:44:28] <MattyMatt> my plywood mill bends while it scratches things
[00:44:43] <MattyMatt> I don't need no e-stop
[00:44:52] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: you need more duct tape
[00:44:56] <Skullworks> His K&T is one of the greatest EMC2 (at the time) success storys.
[00:45:50] <MattyMatt> I do want more lookahead tho. I noticed it comes to stop at all 4 points of an oval that should be a smooth movement
[00:46:29] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: is that PC HW related or emc ?
[00:46:39] <Skullworks> what G64 P value are you using - AND are you using backlash comp?
[00:46:50] <MattyMatt> no G64 used yet
[00:46:58] <MattyMatt> no backlash comp
[00:47:26] <Skullworks> you use Inch or mm?
[00:47:30] <MattyMatt> mm
[00:47:52] <skunkworks__> try g64
[00:48:08] <Skullworks> try adding a "G64 P.04"
[00:48:27] <MattyMatt> yarr I will, when I'm not working on my last bit of plywood stock :)
[00:48:36] <Skullworks> or even a P.015
[00:48:39] * MattyMatt the old shoemaker
[00:52:35] <skunkworks__> been very happy with linuxcnc.. has done everything I have needed so far
[00:52:44] <theos> MattyMatt the old mat maker!
[00:53:22] <MattyMatt> mats are easy, just stomp a cat flat
[00:53:31] <theos> :)
[00:53:49] <theos> shoes are easy too. just step on the cat :S
[00:54:32] <MattyMatt> I recently discovered that axis jogs way better with the 3d turned off
[00:54:55] <Skullworks> I nick named my truck "Darth RoadKill" Because even when you swerve to avoid them they turn and run back under the truck...
[00:54:57] <skunkworks__> that is odd...
[00:54:58] <MattyMatt> that surprised me, I thought the jogging would be on a higher priority thread
[00:55:31] <theos> :)
[00:55:43] <MattyMatt> but meh, no 3d hardware, so I guess openGL has blocking parts
[00:56:08] <skunkworks__> what runs better?
[00:56:29] <MattyMatt> there is a delay in the jog buttons
[00:56:57] <skunkworks__> I bet your base period is set pretty low
[00:57:47] <MattyMatt> I finally noticed that it got worse with bigger files, so I suspected the 3d, so switched to DRO tab and pow all fixed
[00:58:07] <MattyMatt> 15┬Ás iirc
[00:58:24] <skunkworks__> the gui gets sluggish as it is not a realtime task
[00:58:28] <Skullworks> Software step/dir to stepper motors?
[00:58:52] <MattyMatt> yarr. yeah I guess the jogging is GUI not real time as such
[00:58:59] <skunkworks__> hook up hardware jog buttions... or a jog wheel... :)
[00:59:38] <MattyMatt> are they treated differently to the keyb? excellent
[00:59:54] <MattyMatt> jog wheel in construction
[01:00:03] <Skullworks> may also look at the typematic keyboard A20 setting in BIOS
[01:00:05] <skunkworks__> you will love it!
[01:00:27] <Skullworks> that can cause overtravels
[01:03:56] <MattyMatt> eeh. I could flip burgers for a day and buy a bleeding jogwheel
[01:04:24] <MattyMatt> except McFlippery has a 6 month waiting list for jobs
[01:05:36] <MattyMatt> I should go pimp my gcode skills at all the local machinists
[01:06:06] <Skullworks> McD's is a crazy statistic - more than 1 in 7 people in the US has worked for McD's at some point.
[01:06:32] <MattyMatt> some point in the calculus sense?
[01:07:08] <MattyMatt> tending towards zero but never actually flipping that burger?
[01:07:21] <Skullworks> at some time during there term as tax payers.
[01:07:49] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: I thought they have a fancy grill that doens't require actual flipping
[01:08:19] <Jymmm> dual sided microwave of sumtin =)
[01:08:25] <MattyMatt> I think they were still flipping last time I was in there
[01:08:28] <Skullworks> true - some people may have been employed, but never actually worked - looks that way at some local franchises.
[01:09:36] <Jymmm> Hey, I worked. As a contract locksmith for them =)
[01:09:50] <Skullworks> the auto flip is the chain conveyor used to flame broil at BK.
[01:10:02] <MattyMatt> I don't have the teeth for a customer facing role
[01:10:08] <Jymmm> Skullworks: McD's has a clamshell grill iirc
[01:10:57] <Jymmm> Skullworks: something like this http://mcd.manitowocfsusa.com/images/uploaded/mcd/products/garland/garland_mwe3w.jpg
[01:11:09] <MattyMatt> as I'm "actively seeking employment" I'll go and sign on the dole today, then quickly book some NHS dental treatment
[01:11:28] <Skullworks> what rocks is the robotic drink server for the drive thru window.
[01:11:46] <Jymmm> that is actually impressive
[01:13:34] <Skullworks> bbl - need to go move laundry to the dryer
[01:14:11] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: Donate bodily fluids?
[01:14:34] <MattyMatt> NHS = free both ways
[01:14:47] <MattyMatt> they get my corpse for the med students
[01:14:55] <Jymmm> ah
[01:15:21] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: I meant for money
[01:15:26] <MattyMatt> yeah
[01:15:52] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: I mean donate a pint of blood for 25
[01:15:59] <MattyMatt> they'd take a kidney if I was feeling generous, but they absolutely won't pay
[01:16:30] <MattyMatt> would need 2 pints for a jogwheel :)
[01:16:53] <Jymmm> cross a boarder
[01:17:05] <MattyMatt> that costs more. island nation
[01:17:12] <Jymmm> heh
[01:17:30] <MattyMatt> this moat which guards our land from jealous hands
[01:17:48] <Jymmm> s/jealous/quarantine/
[01:17:59] <Jymmm> err
[01:18:06] <Jymmm> s/guard/quarantine/
[01:18:33] <MattyMatt> it's like alcatraz, but without the private cells
[01:18:43] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: Paybac is a bitch after what ya did to the Assuies =)
[01:19:12] <MattyMatt> it's karma for belonging to branch that didn't leave
[01:19:30] <Jymmm> lol
[01:19:31] <MattyMatt> I've traced folks that went to canada and florida
[01:20:07] <MattyMatt> mind you. my roots are Irish, so I've got slight wandering genes
[01:20:11] <Jymmm> I trink I would have stayed in .au if those were my choices
[01:20:18] <MattyMatt> they got as far as London
[01:20:43] <Jymmm> could get past the pub to reach the boat on time?
[01:20:49] <Jymmm> couldn't
[01:21:23] <Jymmm> (if we're sterotyping that is)
[01:21:56] <MattyMatt> grandfather's farm was burned down by mad brother. him and mad one came to England, the other 3 went to Florida
[01:22:21] <Jymmm> maad as in crazy or pissed off?
[01:22:35] <MattyMatt> crazy
[01:22:53] <MattyMatt> we don't use mad for angry here
[01:23:01] <MattyMatt> anger is a dish best served cold
[01:23:40] <Jymmm> too bad your beer isn't
[01:24:19] <MattyMatt> everyone drinks cold lager now, or chilled guiness
[01:24:37] <MattyMatt> warm beer is history
[01:24:46] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: Ah, cool. Good to know. Now I have one reason to visit UK.
[01:25:35] <Jymmm> Too cold/wet otherwise.
[01:26:06] <MattyMatt> it's been tropical this year. hot and v wet
[01:26:13] <Jymmm> There are some places in .cn I'd actually like to visit, but not sure I'd ever get permission to do so.
[01:26:52] <MattyMatt> they allow tourists now don't they?
[01:27:18] <Jymmm> Yeah, but I want to go to places they limit even citizens from.
[01:27:57] <Jymmm> I saw some really neat landscapes on a Discovery Channel special
[01:28:56] <MattyMatt> there ya go then, get a press pass and you can go to those places
[01:30:19] <MattyMatt> they say in the commentary "after 3 days attempting to get permission" they really mean "after a 3 day pissup which went on expenses as bribes"
[01:30:40] <Jymmm> yep
[01:33:01] <Jymmm> darn, I can't find a photo of the area
[01:34:00] <MattyMatt> meh. I need some inch taps. I could solve my fastener crisis by harvesting old screws from crap
[01:34:48] <MattyMatt> 1/4x20 would be a lifesaver right now
[01:34:59] <toastydeath> oh quarter twenty
[01:35:14] <toastydeath> how every second bolt is you in an american machine shop
[01:35:31] <Jymmm> second?
[01:35:37] <Jymmm> what's first?
[01:35:51] <MattyMatt> one of the few british sizes that's the same pitch as US
[01:38:03] <toastydeath> Jymmm, another random bolt
[01:39:18] <toastydeath> 1/2 x 13 and 3/4 x 10 are pretty common too
[01:39:34] <MattyMatt> our 1/2 is 12tpi iirc
[01:39:53] <toastydeath> weird, UNC is 1/2 x 13
[01:40:02] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: https://www.google.com/search?q=Tianzi+Mountain+Nature+Reserve&hl=en&tbm=isch
[01:40:18] <toastydeath> UNF is something like 1/2 x 20
[01:40:39] <Skullworks> Toasty - want a headache, look up whitworth thread sizes
[01:40:40] <awallin> hey, let's start a metric vs inch flame-war! :)
[01:40:59] <toastydeath> i'm going nowhere near whitworth or buttress threads
[01:42:29] <Skullworks> Metric vrs inch - both need something about 7mm
[01:42:48] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: Other places http://www.topchinatravel.com/zhangjiajie/best-places-to-visit-in-zhangjiajie.htm
[01:43:13] <MattyMatt> BSW = 1/2x12 BSF = 1/2x16
[01:45:40] <MattyMatt> 1/4x20 is BSW, but no need to worry about the 55deg threads. a bit of force works wonders
[01:46:33] <MattyMatt> whitworth has rounded tops and bottoms. preworn
[01:47:05] <Skullworks> Well if the UK is importing from China also they will be plenty sloppy anyway.
[01:47:06] <MattyMatt> but yeah, I'm trying to stick to metric
[01:47:55] <MattyMatt> no whitworth comes from china. if you want chinese you take metric. british threads are only available from specialists at high prices
[01:49:02] <toastydeath> i'd just make that shit myself
[01:49:08] <Jymmm> has anyone used "Unipunch" before?
[01:49:09] <Skullworks> Oh damn, its going to take a weeks pay to replace the bolt on this Triumph twin...
[01:49:33] <Jymmm> Skullworks: broke head off?
[01:49:39] <MattyMatt> heh :) that's exactly the last time I NEEDED a whitworth :) T100T
[01:50:28] <Jymmm> nm, I got it now (need more coffee)
[01:51:02] <MattyMatt> 1959 speed twin, or 1969 daytona, depending which serial numbers you read
[01:51:15] <Skullworks> just joking - but damn - why put the kick start on the left side... Oh wait traffic flows which way... never mind.
[01:52:19] * Skullworks would love a late 60's Bonnieville
[01:52:26] <MattyMatt> eh? kick start is on the right. it's the gears that are weird, also on the right
[01:52:46] <Skullworks> hmm must be thinkin BSA
[01:53:25] <MattyMatt> I read kick stand. that's on the left
[01:53:35] <MattyMatt> eeh 25+ years and I can still feel that bike
[01:54:09] <MattyMatt> especially in the kidneys, it was a hardtail
[01:54:58] <MattyMatt> a pal has a 350 version. I want to scan it for a repro
[01:55:12] <MattyMatt> the chain cases are worth a bob or two
[01:55:22] <Skullworks> I quit riding on the street - bikes gave me super powers - I could outrun the wind, I was also invisible, or so it would seem.
[01:59:42] <Skullworks> yup - some parts are worth a small fortune. - I met a guy who made up some vintage Harley replacement case sides from solid blocks of Al - would machine them all out, then sand and polish out all the tooling marks.
[02:00:22] <Skullworks> He could sell one cover for move than a new crate motor would cost.
[02:12:57] <MattyMatt> yeah and chain cases aren't critical, so I can use any old alu, even starting from a sandcasting of scrap
[02:15:45] <MattyMatt> I could engrave the hell out of it, without upsetting the preservationists
[02:16:09] <awallin> I think bikers are just emotional about their bikes :) that's why there's an outrageous profit-margin...
[02:16:45] <MattyMatt> not so much in UK yet. for old guys it's cheaper than cars
[02:17:05] <MattyMatt> the new fad for superbikes is a rich man's hobby tho
[02:18:20] <MattyMatt> lotsa harleys now too. they were deeply scorned as 2 wheel tractors in my day
[02:18:44] <MattyMatt> but I wouldn't say that in front of Americans :)
[02:18:50] <MattyMatt> oops, I just did
[02:20:21] <MattyMatt> I prefer the push bike these days, preferably a dutch one so it has a back seat for the ladies
[02:20:43] <Jymmm> It's called sitting bitch
[02:21:08] <Jymmm> or, riding bitch, your pref
[02:21:31] <Jymmm> aka bitch seat
[02:21:38] <MattyMatt> speed may be sexy, but a healthy heart is sexier
[02:22:23] <Jymmm> you mean crotch rocket or bicycle?
[02:22:39] <MattyMatt> bicycle. aka push iron
[02:22:47] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:23:02] <Jymmm> DJ9DJ: you're late
[02:23:26] <MattyMatt> late arriver! clean the lathe!
[02:23:43] <Jymmm> LICK the lathe
[02:24:40] <Skullworks> not hurt my feelings any - personally I think an HD is just a rolling excuse to use a vibrator in public.
[02:25:02] <MattyMatt> or to plough narrow furrows
[02:25:40] <Skullworks> yeah, if you fit sand dragging paddle tires.
[02:25:45] <Jymmm> I thought it was an excuse to buy aftermarket chrome parts
[02:25:48] <MattyMatt> I saw a mini-moto dodge tomahawk on YT yesterday. that looked fun
[02:26:05] <Jymmm> buy or sell
[02:27:40] <Skullworks> chrome is best used to line rifle barrels, not wasted on big boy toys... oh wait, rifles are big boy toys too.
[02:27:53] <MattyMatt> chrome is wasted in UK. not enough sun to glisten and too much rain to blister
[02:28:18] <MattyMatt> hi-viz yellow paint is what you need
[02:29:11] <Skullworks> I want to find an old Fiat 500 and retrofit it - with a GSXR-1100cc
[02:29:13] <Jymmm> not good enough
[02:30:04] <MattyMatt> mini with a haybusa looked fun, but a normal mini is plenty fun to drive
[02:30:30] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: That's why they tune the exhaust pipe, so ppl FEEL them before they hear or NOT see em.
[02:30:58] <Skullworks> yup - glad they took the time to really do a good design before bringing it back.
[02:31:12] <MattyMatt> you're barely allowed to mess with the pipes these days
[02:31:24] <MattyMatt> only approved replacvements
[02:31:26] <Jymmm> in the UK you mean?
[02:31:29] <Jymmm> ah
[02:31:29] <MattyMatt> yarr
[02:31:47] <MattyMatt> and the insurance stops you even fitting approved ones
[02:31:56] <Jymmm> ?
[02:32:19] <Skullworks> CA will be giving you and exhaust probe too... and your rig better be 100%OEM
[02:32:50] <MattyMatt> the base rate is already extortionate, and it only applies to unmodified vehicles
[02:33:14] <Jymmm> ah
[02:33:23] <MattyMatt> I've seriously heard of someone's car insurance being rejected because he changed the stereo
[02:33:51] <Skullworks> wow - insane
[02:34:21] <Jymmm> strange, no such thing here in that respect regarding insurance. Getting smogged/registered is another thing.
[02:35:05] <Skullworks> CO finally dropped the whole inspection requirements.
[02:35:43] <Jymmm> Skullworks: Heh, I have to have mine dyno'ed at smog check to pass.
[02:36:15] <Skullworks> take that back - still think that have some silly jump through hoops for diesel vehicles.
[02:36:19] <MattyMatt> I may have to take to the high seas to get my freedom
[02:36:36] * MattyMatt go somalia
[02:37:10] * MattyMatt go mars
[02:37:34] <Jymmm> MattyMatt: Antartica?
[02:37:51] <MattyMatt> covered by treaty
[02:38:07] <MattyMatt> drill for oil there, and they'll all be up your ass
[02:38:38] <MattyMatt> same for the moon, only they'd have a job enforcing it there
[02:38:52] <MattyMatt> especially once the nuke rockets are set up and aimed
[02:39:41] <MattyMatt> just make sure none of my minions are called johnny dahlquist
[02:40:02] <Skullworks> Wish US networks would give up trying to "copy" BBC/SKY1 shows - brit humour works in a brit setting - but it just don't work here.
[02:40:31] <MattyMatt> remaking shows to suit an audience is lame
[02:41:21] <MattyMatt> and why do we need a remake of Total Recall already? was the old one broke?
[02:41:23] <Skullworks> "Life on Mars" remake based in NYC - that just didn't work.
[02:41:58] <Skullworks> I did like the original series
[02:42:05] <MattyMatt> the rubber heads at the end was comic relief
[02:43:28] <MattyMatt> they only did the time travel thing because they wanted to do 1970s police brutality but with a modern hero
[02:43:51] <MattyMatt> modern coppers are dull desk clerks
[02:44:07] <Skullworks> But the whole concept fit
[02:44:45] <MattyMatt> they mess it up in the 2nd series, when they try to explain it all in a quasi religious splurdge
[02:45:57] <Skullworks> Kinda wished they had gone farther with Torchwood. If anything the "office" looked like fun.
[02:46:58] <MattyMatt> did that get destroyed in the "real" timeline? it did in a couple of alternates
[02:48:11] <MattyMatt> yeah it did I think, they were homeless in the american story
[02:48:39] <Skullworks> not that I recall - it was the last one, and I think the plot might have left it vacant (can always bring something back...)
[02:48:59] <MattyMatt> which they seem not to be in a hurry to make more of. big budgets and british sci-fi don't always work
[02:49:38] <Skullworks> but I may have missed some of the shorts after the end of the second season.
[02:50:12] <Skullworks> sci-fi is always the first to get the axe.
[02:50:40] <MattyMatt> they did a 3 part mini-series then the american one which was 6 or 8 parts
[02:50:58] <Skullworks> missed those
[02:51:36] <MattyMatt> with luck they won't wipe the VT
[02:52:00] <Skullworks> from Jan 6th to july 10th I was working 7 days a week - I took 1 sick day.
[02:52:37] <MattyMatt> although BBC just cleared out of their TV building after 40 years. I bet some stuff went in the bin
[02:53:55] <Skullworks> They fired my Boss and the Engineering assistant and it was just me - trying to keep 8 radio stations on air covering half the state - and I'm supposed to just be a part timer.
[02:54:04] <MattyMatt> and Bush House where the world service was made. all custom equipment
[02:57:00] <MattyMatt> I bet a BBC mixing desk need a crew of 3 just to run :) and another 3 to maintain
[02:57:28] <MattyMatt> with a machine shop in the basement for the custom connectors
[02:58:08] <MattyMatt> and then 6 managers above them to keep on-message
[02:58:48] <MattyMatt> and a tea-trolley lady
[02:59:53] <archivist> I have a BBC outside broadcast lorry with a small desk, was missing the machine shop and tea lady
[03:08:57] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[03:09:17] <TekniQue> hello michel
[03:09:42] <Skullworks> painfully early here.
[03:10:00] <Loetmichel> Skullworks: here nor so
[03:10:11] <Loetmichel> 10:01 over here ;-)
[03:11:06] <Skullworks> pushing 0200 here - soon I shall have to examine the inside of my eyelids.
[03:12:25] <Loetmichel> i'm just 2 hrs at work
[03:13:48] <archivist> it is holiday here in uk, soon be time to go drive steam engine
[03:14:23] <Skullworks> leather belt drive - or direct drive?
[03:15:52] <archivist> direct! http://www.middleton-leawood.org.uk/leawood/images/pumphouse/index.html
[03:28:02] <Skullworks> What was the intended fuel for the engine?
[03:45:44] <archivist> it has always been coal fired
[06:09:16] <Valen> whats the difference between stepgen_maxaccel and maxaccel in an ini file
[06:09:28] <Valen> playing around with a friends stepper machine
[06:52:53] <jthornton_> from the manual STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 21.0 - Acceleration limit for the step generator. This should be 1% to 10% larger than the axis MAX_ACCELERATION. This value improves the tuning of stepgenĺs "position loop". If you have added backlash compensation to an axis then this should be 1.5 to 2 times greater than MAX_ACCELERATION.
[08:52:59] <JT-Shop> it always amazes me how far EMC has progressed since the days of the BDI which never worked for me :)
[09:28:11] <r00t4rd3d> New pics of the cops shooting in NYC:
[09:28:17] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2011/12/9/b41facf8-4bff-4b73-8b45-276141e4e6c5.gif
[09:36:40] <FinboySlick> r00t4rd3d: Good one.
[09:45:23] <jdh> UPS is supposed to deliver my 1.5" drill rod tomorrow. 3rd time might be it!
[09:49:05] <FinboySlick> jdh: Did you ask for plastic caps? ;)
[09:52:19] <jdh> didn't ask for anything. First two were from amazon, this one is from mcmaster
[09:52:57] <FinboySlick> jdh: They're supposed to have experience with that sort of stuff.
[09:54:02] <jdh> amazon should have also. they bought 'smallparts.com' that has been selling this stuff for years
[11:31:53] <Connor> jdh: Third time? What happened to the 2nd time?
[11:33:21] <jdh> connor: first time, empty box, second time, empty tube.
[11:34:31] <Connor> WTF ?? Really ???
[11:35:00] <jdh> hopefully, mcmaster will do a better job at shipping.
[11:36:10] <Jymmm> Tom_itx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rfQqh7iCcOU#
[11:36:22] <Connor> I got my top hat for the PDB made.. I just need to thread it M20x1.0 (internal thread)
[11:36:44] <Connor> Trying to figure out the g-code to do in on the mill (setup as a lathe, not thread milling)
[11:37:39] <Connor> I'll have to grind a bit down for it.. All I have in the way of a grinder is a little benchtop grinder and a Dremel
[11:38:48] <Connor> Can anyone help with the g-code? 1mm pitch .25" depth.. I'm not sure about Thread peak or thread depth for M20-1.0
[11:40:31] <jdh> not just a G76 thing?
[11:40:42] <Connor> yea, It's a G76
[11:50:02] <jdh> http://gnipsel.com/shop/hardinge/files/g76.ngc
[12:08:20] <Connor> jdh: I got the info on G76.. I'm just not sure about a few things.. like.. is the combine angle needed when CNCing ?
[12:08:56] <Connor> to be honest.. I never understood the cross-slide angle thing anyway...
[12:12:25] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[12:13:01] <IchGuckLive> isaac moving towards rep desaster
[12:16:11] <jdh> I don't think you really need a compound with CNC anyway.
[12:16:12] <Connor> this is what I have at the moment.. G76 P1 Z-6.35 I.075 J.1 K1 H2
[12:16:38] <Connor> running this in G21
[12:17:06] <IchGuckLive> Connor: mill or lathe
[12:17:30] <Connor> I'm not sure were to set the drive line... if I set that dead center of the spindle.. or right up against the inside of the part.
[12:17:41] <Connor> IchGuckLive: Mill with head rotated running as a lathe.
[12:19:00] <IchGuckLive> head rotated in Z towards X or Y
[12:19:37] <Connor> Just like a typical lathe.
[12:19:44] <Connor> chuck on the right.
[12:19:48] <Connor> err. left.
[12:20:15] <IchGuckLive> the behabvier on G76 in mill and lathmode is different
[12:20:48] <Connor> I understand. I have a different profile for my mill when I have it turned like this.
[12:20:57] <Connor> It's setup as a lathe.
[12:21:10] <IchGuckLive> ok so lathe
[12:23:10] <Connor> yup.
[12:23:25] <Connor> I have the ID of the part around 17.6mm ATM.
[12:23:38] <Connor> I under sized it on the manual lathe...
[12:24:31] <Connor> I plan on practicing this using some PVC couplings... for testing..
[12:25:16] <Connor> So, I guess it's probably best to have the drive line be dead center of the spindle (referenced from the point of the bit.
[12:25:57] <IchGuckLive> conner querry
[12:29:26] <Connor> okay, so anyone know the major and minor diameters for a M20-1.0 ?
[12:30:01] <IchGuckLive> M20 means mayx 20mm tread is 1mm depth
[12:30:28] <Connor> 1.0 is the pitch.
[12:30:32] <IchGuckLive> 55Degree
[12:30:53] <IchGuckLive> pitch is also the Depth of the Treat on metric
[12:31:23] <syyl> metric thread with 55deg?
[12:31:26] <IchGuckLive> M6 is 1mm yu drill 5
[12:31:41] <Connor> okay, so bore out to 19mm..
[12:31:44] <IchGuckLive> M8 is 1,25 you drill 6.8
[12:31:51] <Connor> then use 1mm for depth..
[12:32:00] <IchGuckLive> M10 is 1.5 you drill (.5
[12:32:04] <Connor> how deep should I run each pass ?
[12:32:05] <IchGuckLive> ....
[12:32:21] <Connor> this is cold roled steel.
[12:32:23] <IchGuckLive> 0.15
[12:32:34] <syyl> depends on the machine and the tool you use
[12:33:04] <Connor> HSS cutter that I'm going to have to grind myself.. CRS, on my G0704 mill running in lathe mode.
[12:33:29] <IchGuckLive> try 0.15
[12:33:34] <syyl> that will work
[12:33:43] <syyl> but remember, metric threads are 60deg
[12:33:47] <syyl> :)
[12:33:58] <IchGuckLive> oh yea 55 is withworth
[12:34:13] <Connor> so, 29.5 on the angle ?
[12:34:27] <Connor> What's the deal with the compound angle anyway?
[12:34:31] <IchGuckLive> syyl: as a tereatcvher i shoudent get this wrong
[12:35:02] <syyl> what the fux
[12:35:06] <FinboySlick> IchGuckLive: What's a tereatchver ?
[12:35:09] <IchGuckLive> Teatcher my bad english
[12:35:15] <Connor> Teacher
[12:35:27] <FinboySlick> Haha, okay.... I really didn't make the connection.
[12:35:42] <IchGuckLive> O.O shame <-
[12:36:06] <FinboySlick> IchGuckLive: Well, I have to pick on you a little, for lack of Swedes, as I explained before.
[12:36:57] <IchGuckLive> dont pick to mutch ,thats why im also here for
[12:37:31] <Connor> I'm in Diameter mode.. do I need to half the thread depth ?
[12:38:05] <FinboySlick> IchGuckLive: You're here to pick on Swedes too?
[12:40:01] <syyl> i am trying to pick locks...
[12:40:03] <IchGuckLive> al are here beside jimmy
[12:40:21] <IchGuckLive> B)
[12:40:49] <IchGuckLive> Connor: did you read the user manual on the G76 cycle
[12:40:55] <jdh> Connor: practice on some PVC pipe first?
[12:41:35] <IchGuckLive> not half then double is requierd if it is as you think
[12:41:58] <IchGuckLive> but do like jdh saisd
[12:42:19] <IchGuckLive> FinboySlick: country her im in germany
[12:43:24] <IchGuckLive> the 2.5 usermanual does not include the compound angle maybe i need to upgrade this file
[12:43:50] <FinboySlick> IchGuckLive: I know you're in germany. But I don't know any swedes here. In fact, the only swede I know is from Bengladesh :P
[12:44:23] <FinboySlick> But I pick on him just the same.
[12:45:37] <IchGuckLive> FinboySlick: i put this last words towards the translater and i think i m not comming with it
[12:46:31] <IchGuckLive> any swedes here -> keine Steckr├╝ben hier somthing for pick feeding
[12:46:55] <IchGuckLive> i like "Wiener schnitzen" very mutch
[12:47:29] <IchGuckLive> today the russian tools cam in
[12:48:52] <IchGuckLive> now im going to mill a "Venus of Miluo" in foam 1 block size
[12:49:53] <IchGuckLive> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_von_Milo
[12:55:26] <Connor> jdh IchGuckLive Yup. plan on doing pvc pipe.
[12:55:40] <IchGuckLive> :D
[12:55:58] <Connor> I need to buy some layout die...
[12:56:07] <Connor> not sure if you can get that locally or not.
[12:56:16] <Connor> I'll use a sharpie on the pvc..
[12:57:02] <Connor> First things first though is making the threading bit.
[12:57:58] <jdh> I'd buy one that used an insert.
[12:58:18] <syyl> i prefer the hss ones ;)
[12:58:29] <syyl> but i have access to a surface grinder to grind them...
[12:58:35] <IchGuckLive> on pvc hss is best
[12:58:37] <Connor> I would too.. but.. I have a few blank HSS cutters from LMS that I can grind them down on.
[12:59:06] <Connor> besides, I'm not planning on doing internal threads every day..
[12:59:12] <IchGuckLive> Connor: for practis shape is no factor
[12:59:47] <Jymmm> pvc is slightly better than abs which can become gooey when machined
[13:00:37] <Connor> http://www.grizzly.com/products/Internal-Threading-Boring-Bar-8mm-Shank-Right-hand/H8302
[13:01:28] <Jymmm> Connor: I missed most of the conversation, are you going to thread PVC pipe?
[13:01:39] <Connor> Jymmm: No. PVC is for practice.
[13:01:50] <Jymmm> Connor: and for the real thing?
[13:01:51] <Connor> I'm threading CRS
[13:01:57] <Jymmm> crs?
[13:02:05] <Connor> Cold Rolled Steel.
[13:02:18] <Jymmm> pipe or sheet?
[13:02:38] <Connor> Boarded out Rod.
[13:03:26] <Jymmm> I'd try MDF first, then go from there
[13:03:44] <syyl> mdf is hard to get as a round bar ;)
[13:03:50] <Jymmm> It likes to hold threads thru the surface really well.
[13:04:05] <Jymmm> syyl: Just a general tapping test medium
[13:04:16] <syyl> he wants to turn the thread
[13:04:24] <syyl> no tap involved
[13:04:30] <Jymmm> ah
[13:04:44] <Jymmm> machinst wax?
[13:04:48] <Connor> M20-1.0 internal thread about .25" deep
[13:04:52] <IchGuckLive> M20x1.5 is standard
[13:04:57] <syyl> beside that, mdf ruins highspeed tools
[13:05:02] <Connor> IchGuckLive: Yes, but this is 1.0
[13:05:02] <syyl> *highspeed steel
[13:05:04] <IchGuckLive> M20x1mm i never found this
[13:05:28] <Jymmm> syyl: How's that?
[13:05:41] <syyl> all that crap in it makes the hss dull
[13:05:44] <syyl> pretty fast
[13:05:52] <syyl> i would not run my expensive taps in mdf
[13:06:19] <Jymmm> crap?
[13:06:40] <Jymmm> there is no grain to mdf, I haven;t seen an isue yet
[13:06:46] <Connor> Jymmm: The glue, the grit, the formaldehyde.
[13:06:57] <syyl> then run your tools in mdf :P
[13:07:24] <Connor> anyway, I have some PVC pipe for testing with.. that'll be easier.. less messy.. I have issues with Allergies and MDF.
[13:07:58] <syyl> pvc is a good choise
[13:15:22] * JT-Shop won't casually close the door on the VMC anymore...
[13:15:57] <IchGuckLive> im off to bed by
[13:16:44] <syyl> had to machine 3m long bars on our datron router...worked only with open door ;)
[13:20:48] <Connor> ick.. how messy?
[13:25:52] <JT-Shop> I've taken the chip doors off of the VMC to machine long parts
[13:25:57] <Jymmm> has anyone used a unipunch before?
[13:26:16] <syyl> ah,thats also a good ide, JT-Shop
[13:26:23] * syyl takes a note
[13:26:49] <JT-Shop> just don't do like I just did and close the door on your thumb
[13:27:01] <syyl> that might hurt...
[13:27:27] <JT-Shop> it does
[13:27:40] * syyl takes another note
[13:35:26] <r00t4rd3d> "26% of the parts cost of iPad/iPhone goes to chips and screens made by Samsung."
[13:35:29] <r00t4rd3d> ironic....
[14:19:04] <djdelorie> FYI I finally got the new ervo control loop firmware written, tested, and installed... the motors run MUCH better now.
[14:19:31] <Jymmm> fw for what?
[14:19:43] <djdelorie> http://www.delorie.com/electronics/bldc/
[14:21:07] <jthornton> when you use 0 for the base period what does that do?
[14:21:17] <jthornton> base_period_nsec=0
[14:21:22] <pcw_home> crash?
[14:23:01] <Jymmm> djdelorie: cool; just didn't find anything off the shelf you liked?
[14:23:24] <djdelorie> What would be the fun in that?
[14:23:44] <Jymmm> djdelorie: Ask the wifey =)
[14:23:59] <micges> jthornton: it will not create that thread
[14:24:22] <pcw_home> so it checks?
[14:24:23] <djdelorie> she doesn't interfere with my hobbies, and I don't interfere with hers...
[14:25:55] <Jymmm> djdelorie: open hw design?
[14:26:21] <djdelorie> it would be if I actually put the design files up there :-)
[14:26:32] <djdelorie> now that the firmware is working, I should do that...
[14:26:39] <micges> yes, motion checks and don't create base thread if 0
[14:27:05] <pcw_home> ok set to 1 to crash :-)
[14:27:18] <djdelorie> I'll probably do a redesign using the next size bigger MCU, more pins for stuff and runs at 96 MHz instead of 80 so it can do really fast USB serial transfers
[14:29:06] <micges> pcw_home: yes this works :)
[14:32:27] <Jymmm> djdelorie: FT232R is not bad, but iirc the driver loves to change IRQs'/base addresses upon removal/insertion
[14:32:51] <Jymmm> was a constant annoyance for me during testing.
[14:33:03] <pcw_home> Thats a EEPROM issue in the FTDI chip
[14:33:13] <djdelorie> doesn't bother me, my software searches for the ft232R chip according to the "description" field I programmed into it
[14:33:43] <Jymmm> ah
[14:34:10] <djdelorie> if it finds more than one, it lists them all and lets me choose by index
[14:35:14] <djdelorie> heh. Adding 16 more pins and four more ADCs, plus a 25% speed boost, costs 18 cents more :-)
[14:35:51] <djdelorie> all I need now is a few more years of free time, and I'm all set! :-)
[14:38:01] <jthornton> micges, thanks
[14:38:54] <jthornton> pcw_home, I see that in some sim configs so I was wondering
[14:39:45] <pcw_home> I wonder it that exactly the same as leaving the basethread statement out entirely
[14:39:51] <pcw_home> if thats
[14:40:18] <jthornton> I suspect that it is some ini smoke and mirrors to leave the base thread out
[14:41:43] <micges> base_thread default value is 0, so removing will not change behaviour
[14:41:53] <pcw_home> well then it should be documented :-)
[14:42:17] <pcw_home> Ah so thats how its always disabled unless set
[14:42:18] <micges> it seems that from today it will be :)
[14:47:40] <jthornton> so loadrt motmod... motmod loads threads? I don't see anything anywhere about motmod...
[14:49:00] <jthornton> ha it is in motion
[14:49:33] <micges> motmod creates rt threads, and threads module also creates rt threads
[14:50:07] * jthornton wonders why it is not called 'motmod' seems so confusing to rename it
[14:51:35] <jthornton> so except for the sims the function motion-controller should be in the base-thread?
[14:52:14] <jthornton> ouch there seems to be a bug in motion... "BUGS This manual page is horribly incomplete."
[14:52:55] <micges> no
[14:53:16] <r00t4rd3d> djdelorie, send me one
[14:53:25] <jthornton> servo-thread?
[14:53:41] <micges> yes
[14:53:51] <jthornton> thanks
[15:09:47] <jthornton> this is the command from axis.tcl to run halshow "-command {exec $env(LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR)/bin/emccalib.tcl -- -ini $emcini &}" how would that translate to python?
[15:12:11] <micges> os.system("%s/bin/emccalib.tcl -- -ini $emcini &" % os.environ["LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR"])
[15:12:21] <micges> something like that
[15:12:36] <micges> (not tested)
[15:13:11] <JT-Shop> thanks that gives me a place to start :)
[15:15:07] <r00t4rd3d> jt you should buy an ipad or tablet and just bring it back and forth with you
[15:17:54] <JT-Shop> wife has an eye-pad
[15:31:36] <r00t4rd3d> 420
[15:46:23] <djdelorie> r00t4rd3d: I don't have spares at the moment
[15:54:07] <r00t4rd3d> anyone got a 3d model of a US quarter?
[16:20:38] <tjb1> r00t, update me
[16:21:08] <r00t4rd3d> ?
[16:21:34] <r00t4rd3d> if i find one?
[16:21:40] <r00t4rd3d> i gave up
[16:21:47] <r00t4rd3d> everyone wants money and stuff
[16:22:04] <r00t4rd3d> im trying to make my own
[16:22:16] <tjb1> find your own what?
[16:22:50] <r00t4rd3d> what did you mean by update me?
[16:23:20] <tjb1> On your router
[16:24:32] <r00t4rd3d> oh
[16:29:38] <tjb1> nothing?
[16:31:30] <r00t4rd3d> nope
[16:32:04] <andypugh> Oj my: http://www.f1-2000.co.uk/index.php?f=fuel_injectors
[16:32:57] <r00t4rd3d> I cant believe i cant find a 3d model of a quarter for free
[16:33:05] <Jymmm> * heavy sigh * I just can't win
[16:33:11] <r00t4rd3d> thats a true 3d model
[16:34:45] <Jymmm> Even willing to have a punch/die custom made and still headaches http://www.unipunch.com/
[16:35:35] <andypugh> His conrods are lovely: http://www.f1-2000.co.uk/index.php?f=conrods
[16:35:41] <djdelorie> r00t4rd3d: get a quarter and a touch probe and make one :-)
[16:36:51] <andypugh> Not an entirely random link, I spent today in his workshop trying to help tune his lathe servos :-)
[16:40:13] <jthornton> Androgenes did you ever get your conformation email?
[16:40:20] <andypugh> Not yet.
[16:40:37] <jthornton> Ismael doesn't get his either
[16:41:28] <andypugh> Is he real, or a test?
[16:41:36] <jthornton> oh wait he must have got it
[16:41:38] <jthornton> he is real
[16:42:02] <andypugh> I just re-sent the confirmation, and it looks like he replied almost instantly.
[16:42:19] <andypugh> Are you going to approve, or shall i?
[16:42:23] <jthornton> I've sent it a few times
[16:42:25] <jthornton> done
[16:42:47] <andypugh> Incidentally, did you lock a topic for drift?
[16:42:59] <jthornton> no
[16:43:12] <andypugh> private mail: "I went to update a thread that I had on the LinuxCNC forum to find that a moderator had locked it on account of topic-drift"
[16:43:40] <jthornton> hmmm didn't know you could do that
[16:44:11] <jthornton> do you know the topic?
[16:46:11] <djdelorie> andypugh: speaning of tuning servos, I mentioned earlier today that I got my new PID-based servo firmware installed and tuned. Works much better.
[16:47:12] <andypugh> jthornton: I guess it is this one, but it isn't actually locked: http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=18&id=20545&start=96#22064
[16:48:24] <jthornton> hmm seems it is locked
[16:49:09] <jthornton> as well as the next on...
[16:50:36] <jthornton> one...
[16:53:00] <tjb1> java programming is eh.
[16:53:07] <tjb1> wish we could get off println
[16:53:10] <tjb1> and hello world...
[17:24:24] <r00t4rd3d> hello
[17:29:35] <r00t4rd3d> who is the 3d modeling genius here?
[17:30:06] <r00t4rd3d> http://imgur.com/a/n4gTq
[17:30:10] <r00t4rd3d> I want to do that :)
[17:30:12] * jthornton runs and hids
[17:30:16] <jthornton> hides
[17:31:00] <r00t4rd3d> I can model some but not a quarter
[17:31:03] <jthornton> the shopping cart?
[17:31:32] <r00t4rd3d> no they make a large coin on a router, then take pics of it with normal sized things
[17:32:05] <r00t4rd3d> so it makes the normal sized things seem miniature
[17:32:18] <jthornton> ah ok, clever camera trickery
[17:32:43] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/UeATk.jpg
[17:33:32] <djdelorie> there are special lenses that make the focus look like a macro lens shot
[17:35:21] <jthornton> somehow I think this tcl line sends the loaded ini file loacation to showhal.tcl -command {exec $env(LINUXCNC_TCL_DIR)/bin/emccalib.tcl -- -ini $emcini &}
[17:36:53] <r00t4rd3d> djdelorie, yeah tilt shift lens.
[17:37:13] <r00t4rd3d> i can fake a tilt shift
[17:37:20] <r00t4rd3d> i just need a large coin to cut
[17:50:26] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[17:53:56] <jthornton> well I got emccalib.tcl to run from a menu on my GUI...
[17:58:35] <andypugh> The guy making those conrods and injectors (etc) is wanting to add more digits to his DRO. Does anyone know how?
[18:01:57] <JT-Shop> in Axis?
[18:03:21] <andypugh> Yes
[18:04:17] <andypugh> He is using 0.1mm end mills, so really wants microns in the DRO.
[18:05:30] <PCW> Thats pretty weensy, how the heck to you spin them?
[18:05:47] <PCW> Dentist drill?
[18:06:01] <Tom_itx> i had trouble holding a #79 drill in mine the other day
[18:06:34] <Tom_itx> even with a pen drill holder it wanted to slip
[18:06:50] <andypugh> I think they have normal-sized shanks
[18:07:01] <PCW> PCB drills do (1/8)
[18:07:19] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/reprap/nozzle5.jpg
[18:07:28] <Tom_itx> this was a straight shank #79
[18:07:42] <Tom_itx> i couldn't find my #80 or i'd have tried it
[18:08:32] <Tom_itx> i think the .1mm is smaller than that but i'm not sure
[18:08:34] <andypugh> PCW: You know that chap with the Omron drives which are acting odd? Same chap.
[18:10:47] <JT-Shop> can he add a pyVCP panel and display the DRO numbers there?
[18:11:17] <andypugh> I guess so, but it seems to me it ought to be possible as a .axisrc entry?
[18:11:30] <PCW> Oh, that guy I suggested he try torque mode to get as much of the drive out of the way as possible
[18:11:32] <PCW> I think he's got some kind of mechanical/drive issues that make his "plant" untunable
[18:11:40] <JT-Shop> yea, just stabbing about in there now looking
[18:11:55] <andypugh> I spent today trying.
[18:12:19] <JT-Shop> I think it might be in axis.tcl
[18:12:26] <JT-Shop> but dang if I can find it now
[18:12:50] <andypugh> The initial peak is 6um, the rest of the f-error is about 2um with 0.3um static error. For most folk that would be considered pretty good.
[18:13:57] <r00t4rd3d> well SOB
[18:13:59] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13757
[18:14:23] <andypugh> You can get it better (less than 2um initial peak) by tuning FF1, but only for one specific feed rate. I think his answer might be mapped-gains.
[18:14:26] <JT-Shop> line 559 in axis.py redraws the dro but nothing in there about digits
[18:15:07] <PCW> Or jerk limited motion
[18:15:29] <andypugh> Mapped-gains is easier.
[18:16:06] <PCW> Yes but S curves are better for everyone
[18:16:21] <andypugh> Also, not unusual, one controller I am calibrating at work has the I-gain determined as the product of 3 8x8 maps.
[18:16:55] <PCW> Can he run his loop any faster?
[18:17:13] <andypugh> He has tried, but his PC isn't great.
[18:17:44] <andypugh> I think I persuaded him to get the machine up and running and making parts, and see how they turn out.
[18:17:48] <PCW> This is where atoms fail but core DUOs work well
[18:18:32] <andypugh> In most cases a lathe tool isn't touching the work at the start of motion, so it is entirely possible that it simply won't matter.
[18:19:00] <PCW> Yeah
[18:19:44] <PCW> And if you can trade of speed for accuracy. lower the accel
[18:19:50] <PCW> trade off
[18:20:43] <andypugh> I think I will be back. Did you see his titanium conrods?
[18:21:23] <PCW> No, I saw the injectors and O rings, those were impressive
[18:23:08] <skunkworks__> pcw: did you try a video card in your atom?
[18:23:42] <PCW> No, let me try it right now!
[18:23:47] <skunkworks__> heh
[18:24:53] <JT-Shop> andypugh: beyond my level of guesspertice
[18:26:31] <andypugh> in and mm have different numbers of digits, so it can't be _that_ difficult?
[18:27:53] <JT-Shop> if you can find it, I'd think it would be trivial
[18:28:50] <JT-Shop> I did get emccalib.tcl to run from the menu in my GUI... too bad I was wanting showhal.tcl but a copy and paste error sent me down the wrong path today
[18:29:15] <PCW> Well that didnt get very far, it wont work with add-on video cards in the PCI slots
[18:29:59] <PCW> (well the BIOS didn't anyway)
[18:30:08] <andypugh> jthornton: I am going to guess line 1724 in axis
[18:30:48] <skunkworks__> oh - I have had that issue with certain motherboards. (pci video cards just don't boot)
[18:31:20] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop how is your software project going?
[18:31:42] <JT-Shop> the GUI thing?
[18:32:00] <Tom_itx> yeah
[18:32:06] <JT-Shop> andypugh: axis.py?
[18:32:16] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: learning more and more every day
[18:32:28] <andypugh> Yes, though the version in usr/bin is just called axis
[18:33:10] <JT-Shop> yes, I think you have found it
[18:33:25] <JT-Shop> fmt = "%4f"
[18:33:26] <andypugh> ah, no, that's just for the gcode properties dialog box
[18:33:52] <JT-Shop> yea, just reading uphill
[18:34:17] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: I managed to get emccalib.tcl to run from a menu...
[18:34:21] <PCW> skunkworks: it boots, it just ignores the PCI vide0 and always uses the internal video. maybe theres a BIOs option...
[18:38:54] <JT-Shop> I don't know where in the code the preview window is created :/
[18:41:24] <andypugh> No. Odd, isn't it?
[18:57:57] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJIkJ9x0-JQ
[18:58:44] <r00t4rd3d> www.theinebriator.com
[19:15:06] <ReadError_> thats what they call me, The Inebriator, i put bitches to sleep
[19:42:16] <ReadError_> hrmrmrmrm
[19:42:24] <ReadError_> taig lathes 10% off
[19:42:29] <ReadError_> might be time to score one...
[19:43:32] <alex4nder> nice
[19:47:26] <jdh> so you don't forget, order before midnight tomorrow!
[20:24:00] <wd5jwy> <jthornton>, are you around?
[21:06:56] <jdh> connor: did you make a cover for the hole where the Z crank was?