#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-08-21

[02:12:38] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:14:52] <Jymmm> ug
[02:55:51] <PhoenixMage> Hi all, has anyone had any success using hsmxpress with linuxcnc? If so what post processor was used? There is one called Enhanced Machine Controller but from what I have read it doesnt work properly?
[03:57:34] <awallin> PhoenixMage: is hsmxpress some addon for solidworks? not many can afford those.. if the posts are human-readable and editable it shouldn't be too hard to fix things to work with linuxcnc
[04:34:09] <MattyMatt> hi all, is this slot milling func worth putting on the wiki? http://pastebin.com/L0DYfg1Y
[04:37:51] <MattyMatt> and has somebody already written one which has different radius at each end?
[04:41:13] <MattyMatt> and also, would G64 with this be a good idea to speed the transitions between the straights and the arcs?
[04:58:24] <MattyMatt> here's a working example in use http://pastebin.com/a85mpAki
[06:14:41] <jthornton> MattyMatt, anyone can add to the wiki
[06:15:56] <jthornton> good practice is to have a preamble at the start of your G code like shown here http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/gen01.html
[07:10:57] <r00t4rd3d> "I hate tutorials written or stolen solely for profit!"
[07:11:02] <r00t4rd3d> that is bad wording
[07:11:22] <jthornton> change it
[07:11:26] <r00t4rd3d> ok
[07:12:31] <r00t4rd3d> ill just delete the whole sentence, makes you look petty.
[07:14:02] <jthornton> perhaps it does
[07:16:37] <jthornton> I guess it is just one of those annoying things for me to click on a tutorial and find more ads than tutorial
[07:16:57] <archivist> I have a similar line on my website, someone pointed out a google scan is done for googles profit! except I do need google!
[07:17:09] <r00t4rd3d> stay off instructables and you will be fine
[07:23:58] <r00t4rd3d> man I got to replace a ass load of shit pipe today
[07:24:20] <r00t4rd3d> shitty work
[07:26:12] <r00t4rd3d> someone must have used glue that was frozen at one time and just about all the connections are leaking
[07:27:40] <archivist> get the slope right :)
[07:28:12] <r00t4rd3d> i dont have to mess with that, just basically cut out all the leakers and replace them
[07:30:57] <r00t4rd3d> after i stack 2 cords of wood
[07:31:11] <r00t4rd3d> im the town mexican
[08:52:54] <PhoenixMage> awallin: Sorry for the really late reply. Yes it is in Solidworks but I have no idea how to fix the g-code. I am new to all this
[09:08:47] <jdh> what's wrong with the code?
[09:18:54] <PhoenixMage> jdh: I have no idea it was something I read on here actually that hsmworks spits out bad code for linuxcnc
[10:48:00] <L84Supper> anyone know how mach3 systems handle the problems that windoze generally has with it's self destructive/obsolescence?
[10:49:09] <jdh> run nothign but mach3 and never let windows update run?
[10:49:25] <L84Supper> we heavily modify the registry and turn off all unused services just for gaming
[10:49:34] <Jymmm> L84Supper: Ask that again, this time without the animosity
[10:49:52] <jdh> what animosity.
[10:50:03] <L84Supper> no animosity, just experience and facts
[10:50:50] <Jymmm> then rephrase the question
[10:50:56] <L84Supper> is there a mach3 howto for modifying the registry?
[10:51:27] <L84Supper> or a set of recommended tweaks?
[10:51:38] <jdh> why rephrase it? It looks like a real and accurate assessment.
[10:52:20] <Jymmm> If you want an answer, rephrase the question
[10:52:52] <L84Supper> Jymmm, why are you so controlling?
[10:53:11] <jdh> do you disagree that windows generally self-destructs over time?
[10:53:41] * cpresser does
[10:53:42] <Jymmm> I need specifics to give a valid answer.
[10:53:48] <cpresser> the only thing destructing windows is the user
[10:54:08] <Jymmm> I've been doing this shit far too long to "generalize" that somethign is fubared
[10:55:25] <L84Supper> I agree, windows doesn't self destruct if you don't use it
[10:55:31] <jdh> heh
[10:55:49] <jdh> and if you do use it, and install random shit, like normal people do, it ages badly.
[10:56:09] <Jymmm> Yes, it actually can. But there are ways around that. But again, rephrase the question if you want a legit answer.
[10:56:31] <jdh> right, without whatever jymmm perceives as animosity.
[10:56:32] <L84Supper> Jymmm, no thanks
[10:56:46] <Jymmm> God luck then.
[10:57:00] <Jymmm> good
[10:57:15] <L84Supper> let go
[12:09:57] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[12:59:03] <MattyMatt> L84Supper does mach3 work on later versions of windows? I thought it was happiest with XP
[13:04:28] <IchGuckLive> MattyMatt: the new version mach4 does
[13:09:23] <jdh> does mach4 exist?
[13:11:13] <tjb1> Ordered rack and about to order the steppers, controller and other parts :D
[13:11:40] <MattyMatt> making a flatbed?
[13:16:21] <tjb1> plasma
[13:16:41] <tjb1> Told you this in reprap didn't I ? :P
[13:46:42] <TekniQue> I have a PDF file with a logo, I want to trace the outlines of the logo, any ideas how?
[13:48:02] <jdh> there are raster to vector programs. Dunno if they are any good
[13:48:23] <TekniQue> this is a vector
[13:48:40] <TekniQue> but I want to create a g-code engraving the outlines of it
[13:49:58] <jdh> image2gcode, fengrave maybe (might have to convert first), some CAMs can import pdfs
[13:53:46] <TekniQue> actually I figured out a way to do it in cambam
[13:54:05] <TekniQue> although it wasnt a pretty way
[13:54:10] <TekniQue> it does the job
[13:54:38] <jdh> cool
[14:01:27] <jdh> does cambam open/import/wtf pdf?
[14:58:59] <TekniQue> jdh: no, I fudged it with a bitmap
[14:59:06] <TekniQue> imported that into a height map
[14:59:19] <TekniQue> then used the slicing tool to convert the height map into polylines
[14:59:36] <TekniQue> like I said, it wasn't a good way
[14:59:47] <TekniQue> but it worked albeit it produced horrendous g-code
[15:00:12] <TekniQue> thousands of lines
[15:24:19] <uw> is there a mach3 for linux?
[15:25:33] <syyl> yeah!
[15:25:34] <jdh> no, but there is a LinuxCNC
[15:25:39] <syyl> its calles "linuxcnc"
[15:25:55] <archivist> use it under wine!
[15:26:06] <syyl> that might get interesting ;)
[15:26:25] <syyl> or run a virtual machine with windows in it..
[15:26:43] <uw> yea i guess my problem isnt linuxcnc
[15:26:45] <archivist> methinks one needs to be under the influence of wine to use mach3
[15:26:52] <uw> is the gcode generator
[15:27:03] <uw> pycam
[16:12:03] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:38:39] <tjb1> Does anyone use GWizard G code editor?
[16:42:01] <JT-Shop> never heard of it... what does it do?
[16:42:16] <JT-Shop> I use Gedit G code editor
[16:43:47] <tjb1> Well I'm using it to type gcode, was hoping it was like mcx editor with color coding but its not
[16:44:10] <tjb1> It also simulates it, but I can't do much because I haven't been authorized yet...
[16:44:38] <JT-Shop> got a link?
[16:46:11] <tjb1> http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCGWizardE.html
[16:46:37] <tjb1> Is edit part of linuxcnc?
[16:46:40] <tjb1> gedit
[16:47:19] <JT-Shop> no it is a linux app that is included with Ubuntu
[16:48:01] <tjb1> Oh just a text editor?
[16:48:46] <tjb1> I can't slow my mouse down enough in Linuxcnc...
[17:03:32] <JT-Shop> that one looks like a time sink
[17:03:48] <tjb1> Whys that?
[17:04:43] <JT-Shop> too busy for just writing g code when I can load it in LinuxCNC and see the real backplot
[17:04:50] <tjb1> http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/256210_4208361123276_764787068_o.jpg
[17:04:57] <tjb1> back plot is working fine for me?
[17:05:48] <JT-Shop> are you loading a 3-D part then generating the g code from that?
[17:06:46] <tjb1> hand coding from prints
[17:08:05] <tjb1> this class requires us to hand code
[17:11:26] <JT-Shop> that's good practice to hand code and often faster than CAM
[17:15:30] <MattyMatt> I find it about the same speed, and the finished code is better, using iteration and arcs etc
[17:15:55] <MattyMatt> my generated gcode is just a huge list of G1 moves
[17:16:25] <tjb1> I was pretty fast with master cam, haven't used it in a while though
[17:16:34] <tjb1> Haven't hand coded in 2-3 years so its a little difficult
[17:17:26] <MattyMatt> has anyone done a higher level NC language with named funcs & variables? gcode can do most things but the syntax is fugly
[17:18:46] <MattyMatt> something that preprocesses to gcode would do nicely
[17:21:09] <MattyMatt> it's like asm, you need a comment on every line
[17:24:24] <Tom_itx> my cam post is like that
[17:28:00] <tjb1> Is the r plane in g83 absolute or incremental from the z point you start on?
[17:37:39] <Tom_itx> look at the diagram under G81 to see what it does
[17:38:26] <tjb1> So R0 would be the Z0 point
[17:38:28] <Tom_itx> G83 functions the same as G81 with the addition of retracts during the drilling operation.
[17:40:55] <tjb1> This editor throws an error with G84 telling me spindle isn't on…but the haas manual says to let g84 start the spindle :P
[17:41:45] <jp_w700> JT-Shop: you around?
[17:41:50] <JT-Shop> yup
[17:42:01] <Tom_itx> evening
[17:42:02] <jp_w700> do you use eclipse as and ide
[17:42:13] <JT-Shop> what is eclipse?
[17:42:24] <Tom_itx> when the moon hides
[17:42:25] <jp_w700> thats a no then
[17:42:34] <JT-Shop> I use Gedit for my ide
[17:42:47] <JT-Shop> evening Tom_itx
[17:42:57] <jp_w700> http://www.eclipse.org/
[17:43:17] <tjb1> eclipse is java editor
[17:43:21] <tjb1> and other code editor
[17:43:23] <jp_w700> having a issue working on glade pygtk
[17:43:27] <Tom_itx> oh i tried that once
[17:43:31] <Tom_itx> i hated eclipse
[17:43:44] <jp_w700> eclipse has a python plugin
[17:43:45] <Tom_itx> i think i loaded it for some silly arm project
[17:43:48] <tjb1> Were you coding java?
[17:44:23] <jp_w700> but for some reason it wont "import math"
[17:45:03] <JT-Shop> python won't? or eclipse won't?
[17:45:11] <jp_w700> python wont
[17:45:23] <jp_w700> version 2.7
[17:45:34] <jp_w700> fails on "cos"
[17:46:28] <JT-Shop> what is the line of code?
[17:51:12] <jp_w700> self.XStart = self.XArcCenterN + (self.ArcRadius * cos(radians(self.ArcStart)))
[17:51:37] <jp_w700> look familliar?
[17:52:03] <jp_w700> http://imagebin.org/225359
[17:52:34] <JT-Shop> yes it does
[17:53:10] <jp_w700> see anything i dont?
[17:53:20] <JT-Shop> math.cos and math.radians
[17:53:37] <JT-Shop> need the math.
[17:57:55] <jp_w700> well that worked! I wonder why import math did not?
[17:58:00] <tjb1> Can you have two m codes on 1 line?
[17:58:13] <jp_w700> not on a fanuc
[17:58:21] <jp_w700> not sure abot linux
[17:58:22] <tjb1> alright thanks
[17:58:26] <tjb1> well this is for haas
[17:58:31] <tjb1> and I didn't think you could
[18:02:20] <tjb1> How does this look? - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tJqW545r
[18:03:11] <JT-Shop> jp_w700: http://docs.python.org/library/math.html
[18:04:41] <JT-Shop> math got loaded but you have to use math. for some reason now
[18:10:09] <jp_w700> Ah thanks
[18:10:21] <jp_w700> Got it working now!!
[18:11:08] <JT-Shop> Sweet!
[18:11:28] <jp_w700> just need to do a bit of work on drawing the arc
[18:12:10] <jp_w700> I'll send you the files once i'm done if you want it for your tutorial.
[18:12:17] <JT-Shop> one bite at a time :)
[18:12:48] <JT-Shop> sure, that makes it easy for me if someone else finds all the bugs first
[18:13:07] <jp_w700> no prob you did most of the work anyways
[18:19:34] <Yoshi47> does linuxcnc 10.04 come with simulator or does it require a seperate build?
[18:20:03] <tjb1> Any programmers here that I can interview that will also let my instructor contact them? :)
[18:20:48] <Yoshi47> what does one have to program in order to be interviewed?
[18:21:02] <Yoshi47> how how would one be contacted?
[18:21:18] <tjb1> cmc programmer and I have no idea
[18:21:20] <tjb1> *cnc
[18:21:54] <Yoshi47> ah, working on that, so I can't help you out, but I am a computer programmer, multiple languages
[18:23:12] <r00t4rd3d> program in what?
[18:23:26] <JT-Shop> Yoshi47: you can just run a sim configuration
[18:23:50] <JT-Shop> or http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxCNC_Pure_Simulator
[18:24:05] <Yoshi47> ah i see the option
[18:24:07] <Yoshi47> thanks
[18:28:33] <jp_w700> JT-Shop: have you played with the drawing area in gtk?
[18:45:55] <JT-Shop> nope
[18:47:23] <jp_w700> Need to figure out how to erase
[18:50:35] <JT-Shop> you got it to draw?
[18:56:31] <jp_w700> yep
[18:56:56] <jp_w700> got it working but on the second arc it just overlays on the first
[18:58:52] <tjb1> What r00t4rd3d
[18:58:57] <tjb1> What are you making jp_w700
[19:00:59] <jp_w700> JT-Shop:http://imagebin.org/225364
[19:02:10] <JT-Shop> do you know how to compact the labels and entry boxes?
[19:02:47] <jp_w700> yes there some good youtube vids that cover that
[19:04:35] <tjb1> ewwhhh I and J coding :P
[19:07:51] <jp_w700> JT-Shop: Ther are option for expansion and you can force the V&H boxes to a certian sixe if you want.
[19:08:59] <tjb1> What is better for clamping to stepper motor, set screw or clamp-on?
[19:09:43] <jp_w700> setscrew if possible
[19:10:32] <tjb1> http://www.mcmaster.com/#oldham-couplings/=iy9c5j
[19:10:36] <tjb1> Thats what I am looking at
[19:11:56] <jp_w700> should be fine
[19:14:45] <tjb1> Any recommendation on nylon vs acetal
[19:14:53] <JT-Shop> jp_w700: just wanted to make sure you knew about the vertical expand
[19:15:00] <tjb1> Im thinking nylon because I don't need high twisting force
[19:15:06] <tjb1> Vibration and shock would be better
[19:15:45] <jp_w700> my preference is delrin
[19:15:53] <tjb1> Don't have that choice :)
[19:16:55] <jp_w700> delrin is acetal
[19:17:23] <jdh> delrin is my favorite non-metal.
[19:17:28] <jp_w700> sorry should of just said acetal
[19:17:29] <jdh> well, other than boobies.
[19:17:52] <jp_w700> lol me too!!!
[19:19:49] <jp_w700> vespel is pretty cool but big $$$$$
[19:25:25] <tjb1> Acme screw and oldham coupling ordered :D
[19:25:39] <jp_w700> cool
[19:26:42] <tjb1> Im excited
[19:27:37] <jp_w700> what did you by for screws
[19:33:25] <tjb1> 1/2-10
[19:33:37] <tjb1> Just for z axis
[19:33:56] <jp_w700> from mcmaster?
[19:36:32] <tjb1> Yes
[19:41:08] <tjb1> http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?partnum=99030A005
[19:48:34] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.liveleak.com//view?i=78c_1345587985
[19:48:40] <r00t4rd3d> LMFAO
[19:56:06] <r00t4rd3d> Im going to hell
[19:56:13] <r00t4rd3d> oh wait, im already there!
[20:28:10] <alex4nder> hey
[20:37:14] <tjb1> hello
[20:39:53] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.rcairboats.net/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=15
[20:40:20] <r00t4rd3d> east to make with cnc router rc airboats
[20:40:23] <r00t4rd3d> easy*
[20:40:58] <jdh> I had one in 1979
[21:48:38] <r00t4rd3d> "NY judge: Poker's not gambling under federal law"
[21:48:58] <r00t4rd3d> poker is what started gambling
[21:52:03] <MattyMatt> poker is a game of skill, therefore not gambling
[21:52:31] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[21:53:20] <r00t4rd3d> you can only use your skill if you get the right cards
[21:53:37] <r00t4rd3d> which is a gamble
[21:53:52] <MattyMatt> meh, just gotta bluff harder
[21:54:03] <r00t4rd3d> and gamble on winning
[21:54:30] <MattyMatt> picking a fast horse is also a skill >:)
[21:55:16] <r00t4rd3d> yeah, you gotta know the inside scoop to what one got some crystal meth before the race.
[21:56:01] <MattyMatt> does that make them faster or slower? they call it all doping these days
[21:56:14] <r00t4rd3d> faster
[21:56:30] <r00t4rd3d> the shed version of cocaine it is
[21:57:09] <MattyMatt> yeah so maybe they just whinney and sweat but get distracted before the 3rd furlong
[21:58:39] <r00t4rd3d> i should team up with some indians and open a poker house
[21:59:39] <MattyMatt> I'd have reservations about that
[22:01:15] <MattyMatt> hmmz. I did code today to mill a faceplate with 12 radial slots. I could easily make it 37
[22:01:33] <MattyMatt> and put all the slots around the edge
[22:01:52] <MattyMatt> or 38, if it's for America
[22:03:30] <MattyMatt> new low-rent casinos here have 00 now, so maybe if you did one without in America you'd be considered high class
[22:04:01] <r00t4rd3d> are you on drugs?
[22:04:06] <MattyMatt> I wish
[22:04:20] <r00t4rd3d> okay, must be me.
[22:05:42] <r00t4rd3d> A chipmunk or squirrel died in my garage and it fucking stinks and I cant find it.
[22:06:04] <MattyMatt> you'll have to clean the whole place
[22:07:17] <MattyMatt> got any heavy machines in there yet?
[22:07:44] <r00t4rd3d> not too bad
[22:07:54] <r00t4rd3d> id rather find the dead whatever and get it out
[22:08:17] <r00t4rd3d> i only half assed the look tonight
[22:10:43] <r00t4rd3d> i found a small ass mouse in a bucket a couple weeks ago and that bitch stunk too
[22:11:33] <r00t4rd3d> poisoning them is worse then just letting them go
[22:12:33] <MattyMatt> keeping them out is best
[22:13:12] <MattyMatt> fresh air is for the birds
[22:13:19] <r00t4rd3d> im surrounded by woods
[22:16:35] <MattyMatt> mm wood. any plywood trees?
[22:17:16] <r00t4rd3d> you can make plywood out of anything
[22:17:38] <r00t4rd3d> but no my seeds never germinated
[22:17:58] <r00t4rd3d> i traded the family cow for some
[22:20:26] <r00t4rd3d> i put my controller power supply in my pc case today :)
[22:20:43] <MattyMatt> with the PC?
[22:20:48] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[22:21:23] <MattyMatt> my mill is running on an ATX for now
[22:21:40] <r00t4rd3d> i got a mini itx
[22:21:46] <r00t4rd3d> d525
[22:21:56] <r00t4rd3d> intel atom
[22:21:59] <MattyMatt> I mean the motors are running on 12V :)
[22:22:06] <r00t4rd3d> oh
[22:22:24] <MattyMatt> I could probably power a mini-itx off the same supply
[22:22:46] <r00t4rd3d> my motors are on 18v atm
[22:23:29] <MattyMatt> yarr I want a d525. I can ignore real time errors on an all-stepper machine but I'll be doing my lathe next
[22:23:43] <r00t4rd3d> i could probably power the d525 off my controller power but I dont know how
[22:24:12] <MattyMatt> there are mini-itx psu that take car power
[22:24:40] <r00t4rd3d> the newer intel atom can run off batteries
[22:24:41] <MattyMatt> but you might as well use 120V
[22:24:44] <Tom_itx> pico psu
[22:24:59] <MattyMatt> they be the ones
[22:25:01] <Tom_itx> this one is running off 12v
[22:25:56] <Tom_itx> http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/it.A/id.417/.f?sc=8&category=13
[22:27:15] <r00t4rd3d> u been wanting a supply like that
[22:27:20] <Tom_itx> you may not want to use the same supply due to noise from the motors
[22:27:28] <r00t4rd3d> u/i
[22:27:57] <r00t4rd3d> pico boards are expensive though
[22:28:08] <MattyMatt> I need better drivers before I care about >12V for the motors. TB6560 have such a poor stepping rate I can't run the motors at full speed even on 12V
[22:28:12] <r00t4rd3d> so are nano ones
[22:28:23] <r00t4rd3d> i got a tb6560
[22:29:25] <MattyMatt> datasheet says 15µs mark & space. I seem to be OK at 10µs and I've heard 7µs is stable
[22:29:53] <MattyMatt> once you've defeated the slow optos on the chinese 4-axis
[22:30:30] <r00t4rd3d> i only got the 3 axis version
[22:30:34] <r00t4rd3d> Tom_itx, http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIA-EPIA-P830-12L-Pico-ITX-Embedded-Board-/160851465690?pt=Motherboards&hash=item25737e95da
[22:30:44] <r00t4rd3d> cheapest on ebay that i see, 259
[22:32:53] <r00t4rd3d> hmm no parallel port options :(
[22:34:13] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure how well they work with linuxcnc either
[22:34:27] <Tom_itx> this one won't work for it
[22:34:31] <Tom_itx> it's way too old
[22:35:23] <MattyMatt> repraps are moving to arm boards now. not running linuxcnc but they could in theory
[22:35:39] <Tom_itx> yeah a few are i think
[22:36:03] <MattyMatt> maybe that cut down russian version
[22:36:11] <Tom_itx> i've got a bunch of old PC104's too
[22:36:31] <Tom_itx> not sure what they'd be good for
[22:36:53] <r00t4rd3d> i might try a small cnc with arduino and grbl shield
[22:37:01] <r00t4rd3d> or etch a sketch
[22:38:22] <r00t4rd3d> http://blog.makezine.com/2007/06/12/james-lebron-etchasketch/
[22:38:23] <MattyMatt> arduinos lack fpu, that's what's driving the change to arm
[22:38:23] <r00t4rd3d> check that out
[22:39:54] <MattyMatt> also the lack of ram. you have to spoon feed them line by line currently
[22:40:32] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.embeddedtronics.com/cnc_eas.html
[22:41:22] <MattyMatt> those plywood gears looks disturbingly like mine
[22:41:52] <MattyMatt> I've never used them. I made them for looks, then made delrin ones to actually use
[22:41:54] <r00t4rd3d> that design is pretty simple
[22:42:25] <r00t4rd3d> he posted the gears too
[22:42:26] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.embeddedtronics.com/image/cnc_etch/20%2036%20spur%20gear%2020degree.dxf
[22:42:42] <MattyMatt> meh, might as well put a pencil on a cnc
[22:43:00] <r00t4rd3d> not as cool
[22:43:17] <MattyMatt> not even if it's a deltabot?
[22:45:06] <MattyMatt> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYs6jASd_Ww&feature=relmfu
[22:45:12] <MattyMatt> latest reprap
[22:47:48] <r00t4rd3d> you can cut most of that too on a router
[22:48:16] <r00t4rd3d> i seen plans for one someplace
[22:49:03] <MattyMatt> yeah there's very little structure to it. 2 plywood sides but it's mostly the Z slides holding it up
[22:50:30] <MattyMatt> as the cartesian to delta is working in the firmware, I'm tempted to make a cutting one with high pitch acme
[22:51:38] <MattyMatt> belt drive Z really limits the tool weight
[22:51:59] <MattyMatt> peopel are designing extra small extruders to suit it
[22:52:51] <MattyMatt> it's either that or drive the filament from the other end of a teflon pipe
[22:54:31] <MattyMatt> it's not a proper deltabot with shoulders and elbows tho, but it's a nice compromise
[22:57:22] <MattyMatt> ah 5am. gn
[22:59:49] <r00t4rd3d> see ya
[23:44:39] <awallin> MattyMatt: is that delta reprap linuxcnc controleld?