#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-08-16

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[00:15:17] <mhaberler> rogge: around?
[02:52:18] <DJ9DJ> moin
[05:56:58] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[05:57:08] <awallin> gday..
[06:05:22] <awallin> anyone good at web-proxies? I tried installing a simple php-script, but when trying to access a site that resitricts access based on IP-address it doesn't seem to work..
[06:35:00] <psha[work]> awallin: if you run wget/curl directly?
[06:35:09] <psha[work]> on the server that hosts php script
[06:35:32] <psha[work]> also instead of php script you may use apache mod_proxy
[06:35:37] <psha[work]> i guess you have apache? :)
[07:05:58] <micges> JT-Shop: hi
[07:20:09] <tjb1> Morning all
[07:30:38] <awallin> psha[work]: the web-server is used for hosting normal pages. this proxy-thing would be a 'special' arrangement.. :)
[07:33:03] <awallin> that ip-restricting site seems to use cookies... does that complicate things?
[07:35:41] <FinboySlick> awallin: What are you trying to do?
[07:36:53] <awallin> FinboySlick: I have a webserver on an internal network with good access to some sites. But I'd like to browse those sites, via proxy, from wherever (e.g. home)
[07:37:12] <FinboySlick> awallin: Can you ssh into your web server?
[07:37:26] <awallin> but now I'm not sure if the webserver is on the correct subnet anyway... so this may be difficult
[07:37:49] <awallin> yes I can ssh into it and can browse with e.g. lynx (text-browser)
[07:38:13] <jthornton> micges, hi
[07:38:21] <FinboySlick> awallin: If ssh port forwarding is on for your user, try ssh -D 1080 yourwebserver
[07:38:31] <pjm> awallin hi, i would install privoxy on your internal box, then just SSH in and port forward
[07:38:34] <FinboySlick> If that works, you're set.
[07:39:16] <micges> jthornton: I wanted to ask about 7i76 but I figured it out
[07:39:26] <FinboySlick> awallin: If your remote machine runs windows, you can do the equivalent with putty.
[07:40:21] <jthornton> ok
[07:40:45] <awallin> with ssh port forwarding all my browser traffic from the 'outside' machine would go through the 'inside' server?
[07:41:23] <FinboySlick> awallin: It sets up a local 'SOCKS5' proxy on your remote machine that will tunnell stuff through your web server.
[07:41:49] <FinboySlick> Then you can tell your web browser (or IM client or whatever) to use localhost:1080 as a socks5 proxy
[07:43:53] <awallin> hm, OK, I'll try some of these tricks..
[07:48:32] <psha[work]> awallin: install polipo there and use ssh port-forwardnig
[07:56:38] <tjb1> !seen WillenCMD
[07:56:38] <the_wench> last seen in 2012-08-07 01:27:35GMT 228:17:37 ago, saying Quit: Leaving
[07:57:17] <jdh> !seen Perky_Linux_Chick
[07:57:18] <the_wench> Never heard of the entity Perky_Linux_Chick you ask for
[07:58:05] <awallin> would port-forwarding work for two "hops" i.e. browser->server1->server2-> www ?
[07:59:20] <jdh> you can ssh an ssh
[08:04:34] <psha[work]> awallin: yes
[08:12:38] <tjb1> Cool, I can buy leveling pads that slide into square tubing :D
[08:57:03] <jthornton> did anyone see a "Test Message" from me on the users mailing list?
[09:00:44] <awallin> yes
[09:01:39] <jthornton> thanks, good to know I've fixed t-bird to not switch my from address when I send mail
[09:15:21] <Jymmm> jthornton: switch from what? Grinch? Santa Clause?
[09:22:03] <alex_joni> Santa Grinch
[09:23:20] <Jymmm> http://garciamedialife.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/grinch.jpg
[09:24:59] <Jymmm> still doesn't explain switching from address in TB though.
[09:25:11] <Jymmm> err FROM:
[09:26:41] <jthornton> somehow my outgoing server changed (maybe I did it) from the first gmail account in tb to the last one I added
[09:27:15] <jthornton> and even though I selected the proper from address the outgoing server changed it
[09:27:28] <Jymmm> OH, you changed the "default" outgoing address. Yeah TB is a PITA like that
[09:28:47] <Jymmm> Insteado f having an SMTP section per accoutn, TB has a totally seperate sMTP section all on it's own that you have to seperately configyre and associate with each account.
[09:29:37] <Jymmm> Sadly, there are no good IMAP clients, just lesser of the evil ones.
[09:36:59] <pcw_home> pine FTW
[09:38:38] <jdh> I like mutt.
[09:39:14] <Jymmm> and jeff
[09:41:29] <ReadError> mutt
[09:44:27] <tjb1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail_(application)
[09:44:28] <tjb1> ;)
[10:12:55] <Jymmm> "Plated stainless steel" say what?
[10:14:51] <Jymmm> isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
[10:27:47] <jthornton> and Alpine
[10:32:48] <jthornton> anyone want to make a simple gladevcp panel?
[10:40:14] <Jymmm> heh, no such thing =)
[10:40:50] <Jymmm> Ok, one BIG RED BUTTON in the middle of the screen
[10:41:01] <Jymmm> can't get much smper than that.
[10:41:06] <Jymmm> simpler
[10:41:33] <JT-Shop> well this one is not quite that simple but close
[10:42:22] <Jymmm> I have a different perspective than all you folks when it comes to UI, so you REALLY dont want my input.
[10:42:55] <JT-Shop> I think sometimes you assume too much :P
[10:53:01] <Tom_itx> Jymmm a Staples 'Easy' button?
[10:53:24] <Jymmm> heh
[11:24:46] <Jymmm> Is there a name for those nuts that have a little side hole in them usually used to place a (wire) seal on them?
[11:30:48] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[11:51:08] <jthornton> wd5jwy, I would make the CAM feed a label not a spin box
[11:55:01] <mcenter> I am trying to decide how I want to hook up my spindle with a 7i77.
[11:56:21] <mcenter> My drive (Baldor 18H) can be either control with analog 0-10V or +/-10V velocity demand.
[11:56:45] <mcenter> It is a 3hp AC vector drive.
[11:57:08] <mcenter> Currently, I don't need coordinated movement.
[11:58:07] <cradek> I don't like +/-10, because if you have a little bit of offset, the spindle might turn the wrong way when you command very slow speeds
[11:58:32] <cradek> so 0 to +10 plus digital for fwd/rev/stop is superior IMO
[11:59:36] <cradek> hmm was that your question?
[12:00:13] <jthornton> yep, my CHNC does exactly that with +/-10v
[12:00:33] <mcenter> Yes. I am leaning toward 0-10V because I think cabling would be easier and more robust.
[12:00:53] <cradek> jthornton: it turns the wrong way at very slow speeds?
[12:01:27] <jthornton> yes, backwards when I click on the spindle icon in Axis until I hit the + key
[12:01:40] <cradek> yuck
[12:01:41] <jthornton> so that is 1rpm iirc
[12:01:52] <cradek> does it have an offset pot?
[12:02:15] <jthornton> I'm trying to recall if it is digital or analog
[12:06:59] <JT-Shop> recall failed, I had to look... it is a digital drive
[12:13:00] <JT-Shop> S5 M3 runs backwards, S10 M3 runs fwd at 2-3 RPM S500 runs at 520RPM
[12:15:37] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
[12:32:16] <mcenter> Can cat5 used for A-B-Ind 1024 PPR encoder for about 10ft run at 3000RPM?
[12:38:25] <IchGuckLive> mcenter: this shoudt work
[12:41:26] <mcenter> I wouldn't want to try it on something that was trash a tool. But in my application, a following error would be just a minor nuisance.
[12:44:36] <IchGuckLive> do you retch the 3000rpm offen
[12:45:30] <IchGuckLive> and the encoder has 2500 dot/rev
[12:45:42] <IchGuckLive> oh i see 1024
[12:46:11] <mcenter> I would hold it there for a few minutes.
[12:46:24] <mcenter> http://i47.tinypic.com/s47xjp.jpg
[12:46:43] <IchGuckLive> i calculate 60kBit per second
[12:46:54] <IchGuckLive> its a 10Mbit cable
[12:48:52] <IchGuckLive> well done mcenter
[12:50:12] <mcenter> thanks. It is a project that I have been messing with for a decade.
[12:50:28] <IchGuckLive> your welcome
[12:50:34] <IchGuckLive> 3axis or more
[12:52:07] <mcenter> only two axis under power. I am planning to a Z. But, I don't know when. I was supposed to this summer.
[12:52:35] <IchGuckLive> go out see the sun better then welding in the garage
[13:10:09] <IchGuckLive> today my dxf to g-code via Heeks hidded 10K people on youtube
[14:41:42] <tjb1> Why would you put ballscrews on a machine made out of plywood?
[14:42:14] <Jymmm> because it's hard to find wooden bolts at home depot?
[14:44:57] <tjb1> you can buy ballscrews at home depot?
[14:45:50] <mcenter> tjbl, probably not.
[14:47:15] <tjb1> :)
[14:47:29] <tjb1> Some people...
[15:13:17] <archivist> only a decade, seems those that procrastinate do better http://www.cbc.ca/books/2012/08/dont-just-do-something-stand-there-frank-partnoy-on-the-benefits-of-procrastination.html
[15:53:32] <ink_> archivist: hehe nice
[16:17:25] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:19:40] <Jymmm> these ppl and their delays in providing quotes is just killing me!
[16:20:13] <Tom_itx> you just have no patience
[16:21:52] <Jymmm> 9 days in not long enough?!
[16:21:55] <Jymmm> is
[16:22:58] <Jymmm> If you need THAT long to provide a quote, how long till you provide my order?
[16:24:48] <fragalot_> Jymmm: perhaps they don't know how much work it is and decided to make it so they'd know
[16:24:51] * fragalot_ nods
[16:24:58] <fragalot_> that or they're just not bothered
[16:25:01] <fragalot_> also, gnite!
[16:25:17] <Jymmm> It's REALLY simple actually.
[16:25:34] <Jymmm> even Tom_itx could do it.
[16:25:48] <syyl_> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/Horn%20Halter/IMG_0832.JPG
[16:25:59] <syyl_> made some small boring bar holders for those horn-tools
[16:40:13] <jthornton> when I'm running a gladevcp from the command line is there a way to see the pins?
[16:45:36] <jthornton> yikes I got a segfault trying to load threads...
[16:53:20] <mcenter> jthornton, halcmd show pin
[16:55:00] <jthornton> if I run gladevcp how can I run halcmd?
[16:57:39] <jthornton> maybe I need to load the gladevcp from halrun???
[17:06:14] <mcenter> From another terminal ctrl-alt-F(1-6) and ctrl-alt-F7 to get back.
[17:07:25] <mcenter> or open tab from a terminal window.
[17:07:47] <skunkworks__> jthornton: if you open up another termainal - you can go to your directory and do a . ./scripts/rip-environment then halcmd -kf
[17:07:56] <skunkworks__> (running rip)
[17:59:04] <jthornton> mhaberler, around?
[17:59:25] <Tom_itx> problems with hair on em?
[18:03:26] <jthornton> if I say loadusr -Wn gladevcp gladevcp wd.glade from hal run I get waiting for component 'gladevcp' to become ready
[18:03:43] <jthornton> I must be missing something
[18:03:54] <jthornton> the panel shows up
[18:04:09] <Tom_itx> came to the party with no invitation?
[18:04:44] <Tom_itx> as you would say, it sounds above my pay grade :)
[18:08:18] <jthornton> oh, I stumbled across the magic words!
[18:08:54] <Tom_itx> are you treading in undocumented ground?
[18:09:20] <jthornton> no, just confusing ground
[18:48:37] <jthornton> well making progress here...
[18:48:51] <Tom_itx> that's one of us
[18:55:09] <Tom_itx> I changed my iPod's name to Titanic. It's syncing now.
[18:56:49] <jthornton> well I've run into a snag you can't net a parameter and I need to be able to change the stepgen.0.position-scale somehow
[18:59:41] <jthornton> aww crap I'm barking up the wrong tree
[19:05:38] <skunkworks__> been there
[19:06:09] <jthornton> I think this will actually be rather cool
[19:19:57] <jthornton> yep did it
[19:21:50] <jthornton> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=48&id=23317#23319
[19:22:25] <jthornton> the only thing it doesn't do is close properly
[20:03:00] <jp__> any tips for drilling a .015" hole
[20:03:48] <jp__> was able to drill one but not as centered as i would like
[21:21:05] <PCW> jp__: 200,000 rpm?
[21:22:50] <skunkworks__> cnc?
[21:22:54] <jp__> lol
[21:23:41] <jp__> no manual lathe
[21:24:36] <jp__> managed to get another one done much better this time
[21:25:36] <jp__> just used a sharper smaller center drill. Was able to get a .015" hole .080" deep
[21:26:05] <jp__> not bad for my second time drilling with a noodle
[21:28:17] <skunkworks__> carbide?
[21:29:01] <jp__> nope just a Canadian equivalent of harbor freight drill 1.99
[21:29:04] <Tom_itx> jp__ then you're feeding too fast?
[21:29:21] <jp__> no kidding
[21:30:35] <jp__> I let it bend a bit and then waited for it to relax
[21:38:28] <jp__> https://picasaweb.google.com/103502607515689372041/LinuxcncStuff#5777462824076082018
[22:39:27] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=bfb_1345136218
[23:19:36] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju0Q6TWMYHw