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[00:00:11] <JessicaRN> but emc has no support eithe
[00:01:19] <tjb1> Yeah but to have support and not answer is pretty low
[00:01:37] <Eartaker> tjb1, use the forums
[00:01:40] <JessicaRN> agreed
[00:01:42] <Eartaker> I like Mach
[00:01:52] <tjb1> It wasnt a technical question
[00:02:08] <JessicaRN> i wish i had the $$$ to go rp
[00:02:22] <tjb1> The question may have been a bit stupid but a simple answer would have sufficed
[00:02:26] <tjb1> rp?
[00:02:33] <JessicaRN> rapid proto
[00:02:39] <Eartaker> what was your question?
[00:02:44] <JessicaRN> build up instead of cut down
[00:02:55] <tjb1> Like a reprap or a powder machine?
[00:03:01] <JessicaRN> yeah
[00:03:04] <tjb1> Eartaker: I was just asking if they had a student discount
[00:03:09] <tjb1> Which one?
[00:03:17] <tjb1> repraps are cheap
[00:04:18] <JessicaRN> actually neither. i wish i had a SLS
[00:04:55] <Eartaker> ahh
[00:05:09] <tjb1> Really hate when google chagnges what you search for
[00:05:25] <tjb1> http://www.buildlog.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/quantum_render_01.jpg
[00:05:33] <tjb1> Im gonna build that one…if he ever stocks the material for it
[00:06:31] <JessicaRN> well gents, I'm off to mess w/ this fireball.
[00:06:42] <JessicaRN> ciao
[00:07:03] <Eartaker> how about this one
http://mendelmax.com/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=MendelMax
[00:07:08] <Eartaker> cyaz
[00:07:55] <dhoovie> or the mendel90.... its the rage
[00:08:54] <tjb1> Are those special connectors for the mendelmax?
[00:09:21] <Eartaker> 1 sec ill ask
[00:09:43] <tjb1> They must be, they arent listed under the misumi list
[00:09:46] <Eartaker> NM max isnt online
[00:09:58] <tjb1> I cant tell if those are printed
[00:10:00] <Eartaker> i dont think they are though?
[00:10:02] <tjb1> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-DAFMPq1B48s/Tpk3UZ3EWhI/AAAAAAAADRw/Nsb2FL_kns8/s800/IMGP3204.JPG
[00:10:13] <tjb1> They look printed
[00:10:20] <Eartaker> oh.. those are printed
[00:10:31] <tjb1> I was going to make a prusa
[00:10:37] <tjb1> But that looks like a royal pain in the ass
[00:10:59] <Eartaker> well the guy who designed it is normally on here and helps all builders
[00:11:49] <tjb1> What channel?
[00:12:48] <tjb1> Im going to build this first -
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/473995_3985189344121_308481399_o.jpg
[00:13:00] <tjb1> but this spring I will be making a 3d printer
[00:13:13] <tjb1> most likely the hadron ord if he ever stocks makerslide
[00:13:31] <Eartaker> #mendelmax
[00:13:49] <Eartaker> he is in the process of moving right now
[00:14:04] <tjb1> The makerslide or mendel?
[00:14:32] <Eartaker> mendel
[00:14:50] <tjb1> Thanks Ear
[00:14:54] <tjb1> Good night all
[00:15:02] <Eartaker> night
[00:54:27] <uw> so
[00:54:39] <uw> can anyone explain touchoffs to me?
[00:54:51] <Eartaker> as in?
[00:55:07] <FinboySlick> uw: They're a way to determine the distance between your cutter and your part.
[00:56:05] <uw> ok i only engrave right now. as in 2d stuff. i set the gcode so that pretty much the home z plane is on the depth i want to cut into the piece
[00:56:16] <uw> im pretty sure that is NOT the way it is supposed to be done
[00:57:12] <uw> so the z home is on the surface of the flat part - the depth of the engraving (something like 0.04 or something)
[00:57:23] <FinboySlick> uw: Well, I'm no great expert but my understanding is that you should see your gcode as 'floating'. And you use touchoff to determine its home.
[00:57:32] <FinboySlick> Typically a G54 offset.
[00:57:45] <FinboySlick> As opposed to the 'real' zero of your machine.
[00:58:07] <uw> ok ok gotcha
[00:58:09] <uw> however
[00:58:19] <uw> as far as the process goes, im not sure how to do that
[00:58:28] <FinboySlick> That way, if you want to engrave the same thing on a thicker board, you still use the exact same code, your g54 offset is set higer during touchoff.
[00:59:06] <FinboySlick> uw: Gimme a moment.
[00:59:09] <uw> if i had someone to show me, i bet id pick it up in like 30 secs. just reading docs im not sure what to do
[00:59:21] <uw> ok no problem thanks for answering
[00:59:40] <FinboySlick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXGJqMiF31w
[00:59:46] <FinboySlick> Here's an example of a touchoff tool.
[01:00:02] <FinboySlick> It tells you the cutter is exactly 4 inches above your part.
[01:00:25] <uw> and yes i agree, thats the problem im comming into. if i engrave on a thicker piece of metal, i have to home on a different plane
[01:00:37] <uw> k 1 sec
[01:00:49] <FinboySlick> So if you write your code so that the top of your plate is 0.
[01:01:03] <FinboySlick> and the tip of your tool engraves at -depth.
[01:02:07] <FinboySlick> It won't matter if you set your touchoff tool on a 2" thick plate or a 0.5" plate.
[01:02:16] <FinboySlick> It'll still be the exact same code.
[01:03:00] <FinboySlick> g-code wise, you just have to start your code saying which offset is active (eg g54)
[01:04:00] <FinboySlick> Then, when you do your setup, you move the cutter a know distance from your plate, touchoff and tell emc that the tool is currently x distance above your part in the g54 context.
[01:06:01] <uw> ok so this the purpose of that guage tool, you lower the axis until the dial moves, then at that point it is 4" above the work piece
[01:06:16] <FinboySlick> correct.
[01:06:19] <uw> so you enter 4" as the touch off when it touches?
[01:06:25] <FinboySlick> Yup.
[01:07:00] <FinboySlick> Then, if you tell the machine to move to 1", it'll be exactly 1" from tour part.
[01:07:25] <FinboySlick> You could technically do touchoff sideways too, but flutes make that very difficult.
[01:07:53] <FinboySlick> So you use things like edge finders to touch off on y and y
[01:07:55] <FinboySlick> x and y
[01:08:17] <FinboySlick> (assuming here that vertical is your z axis)
[01:08:22] <uw> ok since i dont have that tool, heres what im going to do (correct me if im wrong)
[01:08:30] <uw> make my "homes" at the -x -y and -z extremes,
[01:09:11] <uw> lower the z to the workpiece and when it touches (by my eye), set the touch off
[01:09:29] <FinboySlick> uw: I'm not sure there's a 'right' way of doing things, but you usually want your machine's real home coordinates to be 0,0,0
[01:09:46] <FinboySlick> If you use g-code generators, they tend to assume that.
[01:09:57] <uw> yes pycam does that
[01:10:04] <FinboySlick> So when they'll set your machine to a 'neutral' state, they will often toss it straight to 0,0,0
[01:10:30] <FinboySlick> Which you don't want to be right in the middle of your part because it usually does a rapid to get there and can take you by surprise.
[01:10:50] <FinboySlick> It saves you having to re-edit most of the code you generate.
[01:10:53] <uw> ha yuptell me about it. i have learned that once
[01:11:00] <uw> $3 bit later
[01:11:27] <FinboySlick> So make your 0,0,0 a 'sane' place.
[01:11:39] <FinboySlick> Then you set a 'work' 0,0,0 using touchoff.
[01:11:48] <FinboySlick> Which is typically a corner of your part.
[01:12:24] <FinboySlick> generated g-code will send your machine to its 'real' 0,0,0 home first, then move to your touched-off home to do work.
[01:13:17] <FinboySlick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0od-cp_9dg
[01:13:29] <FinboySlick> You probably want to watch this if you've never used one.
[01:14:31] <uw> ive seen these before, and am loooking to get one, but i have a small machine
[01:14:49] <FinboySlick> uw I had the same problem, I can only chuck 1/4"
[01:15:02] <FinboySlick> What's your slowest spindle speed?
[01:15:15] <FinboySlick> you definitely don't want to spin an edge finder at 10k RPM.
[01:15:45] <uw> i can go from 0-2500 i think
[01:15:54] <uw> it is a sherline mill
[01:15:58] <FinboySlick> OK.
[01:16:01] <uw> its pretty common
[01:16:11] <FinboySlick> They can chuck 3/8" which most edge finders will give you.
[01:16:31] <FinboySlick> http://www.fishermachine.com/ has the only 1/4" edge finder I found.
[01:16:46] <FinboySlick> Their little sine bars are pretty cool too.
[01:17:46] <uw> i wonder what you're supposed to do with that 1/3 one
[01:18:11] <FinboySlick> 1/3...%
[01:18:12] <FinboySlick> ?
[01:18:19] <FinboySlick> 1/3"?
[01:18:27] <uw> yes 1/3"
[01:18:31] <uw> shank
[01:19:01] <FinboySlick> bigger machine I guess.
[01:19:47] <uw> i need to get some endmill holders
[01:20:31] <FinboySlick> Tired of screwing and unscrewing the drawbar? ;)
[01:20:33] <uw> but anyway, so far ive been making the 2d drawing on CAD exactly where i would want it on the lathe
[01:21:05] <uw> lathe i mean mill
[01:21:18] <uw> and yup
[01:21:19] <FinboySlick> I have to get going... People are more active here during the day, which is in about 6 hours for me.
[01:21:31] <uw> ok FinboySlick thanks for your time
[01:21:49] <FinboySlick> My pleasure.
[01:22:04] <FinboySlick> I'm still very much a noob but I'm glad to share what I learned.
[01:22:16] <FinboySlick> I actually have a little sherline too, but it's not cnc.
[01:22:25] <FinboySlick> I might convert it with my bigger mill at some point.
[01:24:11] <FinboySlick> Tom_itx should be able to give you a few sherline hints when he's awake.
[01:24:20] <FinboySlick> He has a very nice one.
[02:03:13] <DJ9DJ> moin
[02:19:04] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[03:52:48] <Tom_itx> uw,
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tutorial/gen05.html
[05:33:58] <r00t4rd3d> anyone cut aluminum angle on a table saw with a wood blade?
[05:47:36] <jthornton__> I don't think a wood blade will cut much
[05:48:14] <jthornton> I've cut aluminum on a table saw with a carbide tipped steel blade
[05:59:18] <anonimas1> my spindle almost caught on fire -_-
[05:59:49] <Valen> nice anonimas1 how?
[06:05:44] <anonimas1> by the fat from the angle gear dripping out through the bottom seal.
[06:06:28] <anonimas1> making it slowly get more and more dry...
[06:11:14] <Valen> presumably you mean grease right not fat?
[06:38:06] <r00t4rd3d> nah he packs his bearin's with mayonnaise yo
[06:38:42] <r00t4rd3d> its the redneck way
[06:39:29] <r00t4rd3d> when you change it out, you can feed the left over stuff to you hogs
[06:39:39] <r00t4rd3d> or your wife
[06:39:51] <r00t4rd3d> cause she is a fucking hog too
[06:40:08] <r00t4rd3d> OINK OINK
[06:46:48] <r00t4rd3d> i need to learn how to make parts in some cad program
[07:33:08] <anonimas1> Valen: yeah, ofcourse..
[07:33:23] <anonimas1> Valen: new bottom seal will land here tomorrow :)
[08:24:46] <r00t-Shed> http://i.imgur.com/0Vrix.png
[08:45:57] <gmagno> hello. I just changed my z and y motors to test something, and I am observing a weird phenomena, in axis test, during step conf. I press one of the arrows to make the motor move in one direction, but that is not happening, in fact itstarts moving but suddenly moves backward... and if I insist it might move to the original direction again... and so on... anyone knows what might be happening?
[08:46:38] <jdh> steppers?
[08:47:00] <gmagno> yeah
[08:47:05] <gmagno> nema 17
[08:47:35] <jdh> make sure all wires are connected well? The drivers/etc have worked correctly before?
[08:47:36] <r00t-Shed> whats your velocity and acceleration set to?
[08:49:21] <gmagno> jdh, they have worked in the previous configuration.
[08:49:32] <gmagno> r00t-Shed, vel: 2.5; acc: 30
[08:50:07] <archivist> make sure you follow your drivers set up time on the direction pin
[08:51:40] <r00t-Shed> try 0.2 for velocity
[08:52:05] <r00t-Shed> if i set my vel to high weird shit happens
[08:52:05] <gmagno> archivist, sure. r00t-Shed I just took the motor out and it works. Should this be a overload problem?
[08:53:04] <gmagno> r00t-Shed, I think I know what you're talking about, those are resonance phenomena, which block the shaft, right?
[08:53:12] <gmagno> that is not the case
[08:53:27] <gmagno> the weird thing here is the motor invert the direction
[08:53:46] <gmagno> and I just figured out there is a correlation with the load
[08:54:30] <gmagno> Im gonna put the motor back in the cnc
[08:54:33] <jdh> I had motors reverse on two occaisions due to a loose screw on a motor terminal
[08:56:09] <Loetmichel> gmagno: had this reversi ng when i had wrong/ too fast timing fpr TB6560
[08:56:23] <Loetmichel> the direction pin was just to fast
[08:57:58] <gmagno> Loetmichel, what direction pin?
[08:58:17] <gmagno> this is weird
[08:58:24] <gmagno> everything seems to be working now
[08:58:38] <gmagno> I should have made a video
[09:11:44] <r00t-Shed> nothing like toast and coffee with a light dash of sawdust
[09:12:04] <paideia> :)
[09:14:17] <gmagno> paideia, the drivers just got here :)
[09:15:53] <mozmck> gmagno, I have seen things like that with gecko drives if the step polarity was set wrong also.
[09:21:26] <gmagno> mozmck, step polarity?
[09:22:07] <mozmck> active high vs. active low. some gecko drives use active high and others low.
[09:22:56] <mozmck> but it sounds like that was not your problem...
[09:39:19] * JT-Shop feels cranky this morning and should stay off the forum perhaps
[09:39:36] <skunkworks> uh oh...
[09:40:20] * Jymmm tosses a raw steak stuffed with midol into JT-Shop cage... err direction!
[09:40:31] <JT-Shop> lol
[09:40:45] <Jymmm> =)
[09:49:08] <skunkworks> pcw_home,
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/linuxcnc_formerly_emc2/158450-mesa_5i25-7i76_spindle_issue.html
[09:51:10] <Jymmm> You know the .22r rifles that you load by filling a tube that's spring loaded in the stock? How/why doesn't that fire the rounds if you happen to drop/bump the rifle with the tip of one round butt up against the rim of the next one?
[09:52:32] <jdh> 22 are rim fire
[09:52:34] <skunkworks> I think it takes quite a wack
[09:53:15] <Jymmm> jdh: Yeah, and need an anvil (per se) too.
[09:53:32] <jdh> huh?
[09:53:49] <skunkworks> My marlin is a tubular magazine up the bottom of the barrol
[09:53:56] <jdh> mine too
[09:53:58] <skunkworks> barrol?
[09:54:04] <jdh> barrel
[09:54:07] <skunkworks> heh
[09:54:25] <jdh> you can hit them as hard as you want, they won't go off
[09:54:32] <jdh> (in the center)
[09:55:32] <Jymmm> I wish I could do that with 9mm
[09:56:29] <jdh> do what?
[09:56:53] <Jymmm> hit in the center w/o ignighting
[09:57:10] <jdh> that pretty much defeats the purpose.
[09:57:38] <Jymmm> heh, well because they are center and not rim fire
[09:58:27] <jdh> there are tubular magazine center-fire weapons. They use round-nose bullets
[09:58:45] <jdh> lots of carbines with tube mags
[09:59:21] <Jymmm> any of them 9mm?
[09:59:51] <jdh> probably. There are lots of .357/etc ones
[10:02:02] <jdh> they are lever action though, kind of defeats the purpose of a rimless round
[10:02:13] <gmagno> in order to decrease motor temperature I should use bigger microstep configuration, right? I mean, instead of 1/16 maybe 1/2. Is this correct?
[10:02:42] <jdh> stepper motor current and therefore temp is highest when the motor is idle
[10:04:04] <gmagno> these drivers should have a start/stop system then :)
[10:04:14] <jdh> many drivers have idle current reduction
[10:06:31] <gmagno> i see
[10:19:56] <anonimas1> looks like tomorrow is spindle bearing hunting day
[10:20:15] <anonimas1> 2krpm spindle at 5krpm.. do the math :p
[10:21:10] <Jymmm> 42
[10:22:34] <anonimas1> tho, why things always die when they are in need.
[10:23:15] <jdh> things die all teh time, you just don't care for the most part.
[10:28:10] <skunkworks> the K&T had a max spindle speed of 2400rpm. we are running it at 3000. It gets a bit warmer at 3k
[10:31:27] <skunkworks> (16 speed gear box and max of 2400rpm. Can you say - over doing it
[10:31:54] * anonimas1 nods
[10:32:01] <skunkworks> (well - it only had 2 speed hydraulic spindle motor - so that gve you only 32 individual speeds)
[10:32:02] <anonimas1> I have a 12 speed
[10:42:15] <skunkworks> http://youtu.be/22dWg3GbywE
[10:42:16] <archivist> I had squealing from the spindle drive motor on my little cnc lathe yesterday too
[10:43:09] <archivist> no chance of hearing the background radio!
[10:43:37] <archivist> I need ear defenders here
[10:43:43] <skunkworks> (you can see the opto22's on the left count up binary)
[10:43:46] <skunkworks> heh
[10:44:02] <skunkworks> it is a bit quieter now.. we slowed down the hydraulic pumps.
[10:45:25] <skunkworks> (don't need the volume anymore)
[10:47:47] <archivist> and things failing the monitor on the 5 axis died, had to borrow the monitor from the lathe middle of the afternoon mid job
[10:48:53] <skunkworks> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikzUnPMNDnc
[10:49:08] <skunkworks> that sucks
[10:49:44] <skunkworks> THe monitor not the vide
[10:49:50] <skunkworks> video
[10:50:28] <syyl> that machine is just cute :D
[10:51:08] <Valen> it made a towball
[10:51:18] <Valen> $13 from the hardware store ;-P
[10:51:40] <Valen> whats doing the simulation on that one?
[10:51:48] <syyl> but that from the hardware store is not 5-axis machined ;)
[10:51:57] <Valen> the bit where you can see the head moving etc?
[10:52:07] <skunkworks> Valen, visimach
[10:52:12] <skunkworks> part of linuxcnc
[10:52:20] <Valen> i havent seen that part before
[10:52:21] <syyl> what?
[10:52:25] <syyl> i can have that too?!
[10:52:26] <Valen> my dad will get a kick out of that
[10:52:26] <skunkworks> if you have the time - you can model your machine
[10:52:51] <Valen> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Vismach
[10:53:18] <skunkworks> Valen, yep
[10:53:33] <Valen> I'll have to take a closer look at that
[10:53:44] <Valen> oooh that could perhaps work really well with a thing i was thinking of
[10:54:10] <Valen> basically scan the work area with a kinect or something, and look out for gouging a vice or screw or something
[10:54:22] <Valen> or generally exceding a "cutting limit"
[10:54:41] <archivist> it should be renamed visemc not vis"other software"
[10:54:57] <syyl> hrhr
[10:55:21] <Valen> i would agree with that lol
[10:55:25] <Valen> i can sense a fork ;-P
[10:57:20] <skunkworks> always keep coolant flowing..
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/liquidaluminum.JPG
[10:58:03] <archivist> who need coolant if its cutting not rubbing :)
[10:58:47] <skunkworks> ;)
[11:00:32] <archivist> alu sticks like shit to a blanket sometimes
[11:00:40] <Valen> rather
[11:00:45] <Valen> depends on the grade too
[11:01:11] <skunkworks> I love that the preview in that video actually shows a understandable tool path
[11:01:24] <skunkworks> linuxcnc is cool
[11:02:19] <mazafaka> http://cs5344.userapi.com/u33085317/-14/x_4c3a814b.jpg
[11:59:00] <mcenter> Woo Hoo! I got my axis tuned. (at least well enough, something tells me I could mess around for years getting *the* perfect params)
[12:00:09] <archivist> yes but what happens when you put a load on the axis :)
[12:01:07] <mcenter> :(
[12:02:03] <mcenter> At least I know how to troubleshoot. Halscope and calibration in Axis is mighty handy.
[12:02:42] <archivist> I loaded my thing up during testing, thought perfect, did some real work, it missed steps
[12:03:48] <mcenter> Now, I need to hook up my spindle. I am using a vector drive with encoding.
[12:05:37] <mcenter> The VFD has a 0-10V output representing percent full load. I need to record pwr vs position for an experiment.
[12:08:09] <mcenter> I am using a Mesa 7i77. The manual mentions software process data modes, in which 4 inputs can read analog.
[12:13:52] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
[12:14:09] <joe9> with linuxcnc, when I get the latency test error, is there some latency figure that linuxcnc is comparing with?
[12:14:48] <ReadError> the one that says it only will pop up once?
[12:18:21] <alex4nder> yoh
[12:18:29] <IchGuckLive> joe9: did you check the SMI on your system
[12:18:53] <ReadError> alex4nder: *somehow* my backlash compensation has been off forever
[12:18:57] <alex4nder> ReadError: suckatash
[12:19:01] <ReadError> it was in my ini.swp
[12:19:11] <ReadError> but my pcbs came out much nicer with it on
[12:23:00] <alex4nder> nice
[12:24:32] <joe9> readerror: yes, that one.
[12:24:53] <ReadError> joe9
[12:24:58] <ReadError> you need to raise the latency
[12:25:33] <joe9> ReadError: where?
[12:26:37] <ReadError> when you setup the configuration
[12:26:43] <ReadError> it might be in the .ini file also
[12:27:01] <joe9> ReadError: ok, thanks.
[12:27:14] <ReadError> base_period
[12:27:17] <ReadError> servo_period
[12:27:22] <ReadError> how low do you have them?
[12:27:57] <joe9> http://codepad.org/nGFG0Hit
[12:28:10] <joe9> joe-taig.ini:BASE_PERIOD = 25000
[12:28:10] <joe9> joe-taig.ini:SERVO_PERIOD = 1000000
[12:29:33] <joe9> ReadError: ignore the paste. had an old file lying in the directory.
[12:30:09] <joe9> http://codepad.org/ShbrwCmg
[12:30:26] <ReadError> hmm
[12:30:31] <ReadError> whats the latency test show
[12:49:33] <IchGuckLive> joe0 do you need that high speed why not 100000 at BASE
[12:49:56] <IchGuckLive> joe9: this will lead to more then 2meters per min
[12:50:19] <IchGuckLive> this is nanosec
[12:50:43] <IchGuckLive> give the port more time
[13:04:12] <nlkdavid> .
[13:05:42] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[13:08:28] <nlkdavid> I have a 3wk old install of Linuxcnc from the Ubuntu 10.04 livecd, yesterday & today package downloads don't work
[13:09:48] <nlkdavid> they never find the server, any ideas?
[13:11:51] <archivist> nlkdavid, what url?
[13:12:37] <nlkdavid> Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.91.23). - connect (110: Connection timed out) [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[13:14:06] <archivist> probably better asking in #ubuntu
[13:15:04] <nlkdavid> ok, thx, will do
[13:15:05] <archivist> but us.archive.ubuntu.com works from me
[13:15:32] <nlkdavid> hmm
[13:15:46] <IchGuckLive> nlkdavid: buildbot is off sorry
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/
[13:15:53] <archivist> could be a temporary fail
[13:16:01] <IchGuckLive> devels are working hard to fix the problem
[13:16:39] <nlkdavid> ahh thx
[13:16:46] <IchGuckLive> NP
[13:25:01] <IchGuckLive> so im done for this week BY
[13:35:04] <joe9> ReadError: can you please paste your .ini file?
[13:35:04] <joe9> how much do you have for the periods?
[13:44:16] <alex4nder> dc
[13:44:19] <alex4nder> er
[13:52:25] <Diony> Hi
[13:52:53] <alex4nder> hello
[13:53:14] <nlkdavid> hey
[13:56:22] <eifeljogger> hi
[14:07:36] <JT-Shop> ahoy
[14:08:56] <nlkdavid> howdy
[14:13:53] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Did you see any sign of a forum subscription from dangercraft?
[14:14:08] <JT-Shop> let me look
[14:15:23] <JT-Shop> yes, he did not respond to the conformation e-mail, I'll send another one
[14:15:52] <JT-Shop> have him check his spam folder in his email client
[14:20:07] <ReadError> ah joe left
[14:22:12] <uw> i think i need to set back lash, but not sure how to do it accurately
[14:22:35] <uw> heres something i did recently
http://uwonfire.com/img/metal/bitcoin-otc-cnc.jpg
[14:22:58] <uw> the # doesnt look right
[14:23:14] <uw> do you think that's backlash related?
[14:25:57] <nlkdavid> I'm trying to get this camera to working in on my linuxcnc computer running ubuntu lucid 10.04
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&id=2198&catid=21&start=90#14278
[14:25:59] <nlkdavid> I'm testing with Cheese
[14:26:00] <nlkdavid> lsusb calls it 1e4e:0102 with no name behind it
[14:26:02] <nlkdavid> my limited linux knowledge led me to
http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ which lists my camera's id
[14:26:03] <nlkdavid> am i on the right track?
[14:26:29] <uw> does the it use the uvc driver?
[14:27:38] <nlkdavid> best of my knowledge,
http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ indicates so
[14:28:38] <andypugh> uw: Could be flex, or missed steps. It does look a bit wrong, but what does the artwork look like
[14:29:34] <uw> you mean when cheese starts up?
[14:29:34] <nlkdavid> sorry about posting ontop of u uw, didn't mean too
[14:30:13] <uw> andypugh, the lines in the middle are supposed to be on an angle like the rest
[14:30:19] <uw> know what i mean?
[14:30:54] <andypugh> Looks like a few "slips"
[14:31:21] <andypugh> But the rest looks perfect, so it's odd.
[14:31:50] <uw> its all good nlkdavid what does cheese say when you start it?
[14:32:36] <nlkdavid> cheese opens, lines go around in a star pattern like its busy, then cheese closes
[14:32:36] <uw> andypugh, i was wondering though, maybe because pretty much the rest of it is just x and y movments for the most part
[14:36:11] <uw> nlkdavid, what does lsusb -vd 1e4e:0102 say?
[14:39:46] <nlkdavid> allot! is there somewhere i can upload the output
[14:39:57] <andypugh> PCW_: How happy is an 8i20 with just hall-sensor derived angles? Did you mention that it doesn't like sudden changes in angle?
[14:40:16] <andypugh> nlkdavid: www.pastebin.com
[14:40:54] <uw> nlkdavid, you can use pastebin
[14:41:11] <nlkdavid> k
[14:42:36] <nlkdavid> http://pastebin.com/Qw74udrc
[14:46:48] <uw> ah im not really sure whats going on
[14:47:38] <uw> i would guess either the uvc driver isnt loading, or the device doesnt use the uvc driver at all
[14:48:02] <PCW_> Its OK but interpolated angles would be better so the current loop is not always following steps
[14:48:05] <uw> the people at ##linux might be able to help
[14:48:34] <nlkdavid> how do i check if ubuntu installed/has a driver?
[14:49:11] <andypugh> I will see if it is easy to do then
[14:50:10] <uw> its a module
[14:50:21] <uw> something uvc
[14:50:27] <uw> or uvc something, im not sure
[14:50:44] <uw> however, it only gets launched when the device is in use
[14:51:15] <uw> so lsmod | grep uvc wont show anything unless it's launched
[14:51:19] <uw> but i think your problem is before that
[14:52:49] <nlkdavid> i haven't installed
http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ yet cause i can't download git-core package, package servers seem to be down
[14:53:56] <uw> id say you shouldnt have to?
[14:54:01] <uw> what os are you running again?
[14:54:33] <nlkdavid> ubuntu lucid 10.04
[14:55:06] <uw> yes the uvc driver surely is in that
[14:55:29] <uw> its odd cheese quits and says nothing
[14:55:36] <uw> what happens when you start it via command line?
[14:55:41] <uw> and more output?
[14:56:39] <nlkdavid> ok, so that won't help. do u know the command by chance?
[14:56:44] <mcenter> JT, did you ever get analog input with an Arduino?
[14:58:11] <uw> cheese
[14:58:29] <nlkdavid> Segmentation fault
[14:58:52] <uw> well that almost sounds like a cheese problem there
[14:58:59] <uw> i wonder if you could reinstall that
[14:59:57] <uw> i run cheese 2.30.1
[15:00:05] <nlkdavid> not til the package servers come online
[15:00:06] <Tom_itx> uw which sherline do you have?
[15:00:27] <uw> hi Tom_itx the mill. Ill get you a picture, on sec
[15:00:39] <Tom_itx> there are 2
[15:00:45] <Tom_itx> i have the extended arm
[15:02:08] <nlkdavid> i'm getting an error when trying to download packages: Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (91.189.91.23). - connect (110: Connection timed out) [IP: 91.189.91.23 80]
[15:07:05] <JT-Shop> mcenter: I can't remember if i did or not
[15:07:38] <Tom_itx> my spindle control is goofy
[15:08:33] <mcenter> I was looking for a way to get analog input on the forum and saw a post from last year.
[15:09:14] <uw> Tom_itx, three pictures
http://uwonfire.com/img/metal/sherline_front.jpg
[15:09:38] <uw> http://uwonfire.com/img/metal/sherline_inside.jpg
[15:09:52] <uw> http://uwonfire.com/img/metal/sherline_driver.jpg
[15:10:11] <uw> i think it is the smallest sherline but theres no marking or plate on it
[15:10:49] <skunkworks> mcenter, I did...
[15:11:24] <uw> nlkdavid, servers must be down
[15:11:32] <uw> that happens...
[15:11:39] <uw> theyll probably come back up shortly
[15:12:04] <andypugh> mcenter: I am getting analogue inputs from an Arduino
[15:12:24] <andypugh> AH, yes, and Skunkworks too
[15:12:56] <skunkworks> I used what jepler had done
http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01198594294
[15:13:01] <andypugh> I think he is doing it with userspace to the serial port, I am doing it in realtime to a UART on a mesa card at 1000000bps :-)
[15:13:12] <skunkworks> andypugh wins ;)
[15:13:30] <andypugh> the jepler way is simpler by far
[15:14:09] <mcenter> andypugh: which mesa?
[15:14:15] <skunkworks> http://youtu.be/h-CdFd2Zakc
[15:14:36] <andypugh> 5i23. But they can all have UARTs with the right firmware
[15:14:53] <Tom_itx> uw, not much Y travel there
[15:15:26] <uw> yea its actually terrible
[15:15:36] <uw> i think its only like 2.5"
[15:15:53] <Tom_itx> i get about 7" or so with mine
[15:16:30] <uw> i was doing a 4" disk, pretty much had to make 2 paths, mount the disk, do 1 path, then remount the disk and do the other
[15:16:54] <uw> i'm looking to upgrade
[15:17:06] <uw> oh you have that 4000 model right?
[15:17:10] <uw> with the head that tilts?
[15:17:15] <Tom_itx> get something more rigid than a sherline if you can
[15:17:17] <Tom_itx> yes
[15:17:42] <uw> i have a rong-fu mill drill machine that I would like to convert
[15:17:42] <archivist> old industrial :)
[15:17:46] <uw> kinda a big project though
[15:17:51] <Tom_itx> i can do quite a bit with it but i know it's limits
[15:18:13] <uw> do you have backlash issues too?
[15:18:16] <Tom_itx> i've had it probably 20 yrs or so
[15:18:26] <Tom_itx> y is the worst but i use comp
[15:19:04] <uw> i cut this yesterday, i think the # is messed up because of backlash issues
http://uwonfire.com/img/metal/bitcoin-otc-cnc.jpg
[15:19:29] <uw> yea ive only had mine for a year or so, but the machine is from 1994 and is pretty much a novelty
[15:19:46] <nlkdavid> and i just fixed my package downloading problem, i had set a static ip last wk & didn't set the gateway right
[15:20:08] <uw> nlkdavid, doh!
[15:20:25] <mcenter> skunkworks: which Arduino?
[15:20:27] <nlkdavid> lol
[15:20:53] <andypugh> Any of them should work
[15:21:02] <skunkworks> uno
[15:21:19] <uw> what do you use to comp Tom_itx ?
[15:24:59] <nlkdavid> now that i could download LUVCview, the camera works!
[15:26:10] <uw> cool i wonder if you can cnc and stream video from the same computer?
[15:26:25] <uw> i would guess that would be a bad time lol
[15:26:32] <skunkworks> shouldn't be...
[15:26:58] <andypugh> It ought to be possible, if a little foolhardy.
[15:27:11] <archivist> should be no problem, I have had a camera on the cnc
[15:27:16] <andypugh> But could be handy on days when the workshop was cold.
[15:27:23] <uw> i have a core2 that gets slammed when just mpeg4 converting/streaming
[15:27:38] <uw> maybe that + cncing would be fine?
[15:27:41] <uw> i dunno though lol
[15:27:56] <andypugh> The video might suffer, but the CNC ought to always win CPU when it needs it
[15:29:06] <uw> i wish i could just get the nice view part of it over the network
[15:29:17] <uw> even if it were like 5-3fps
[15:29:27] <uw> i cant remember what it's called
[15:29:52] <uw> the screen that has your model and shows it getting milled
[15:30:11] <uw> what is that called...
[15:30:14] <uw> you know the display part
[15:30:24] <nlkdavid> i ran latency test while running webcam-server with a logitech quickcam over night, the jitter eventually reached 25000ns or so
[15:32:29] <andypugh> uw VNC?
[15:35:47] <nlkdavid> i've heard of people giving linuxcnc dedicated use of 1 processor in a dual-processor, wouldn't that improve latency while serving a webcam
[15:36:15] <nlkdavid> ?
[15:38:35] <uw> andypugh, yea i guess it would work. i was thinking of something a little lighter but, sure that would get the job done
[15:38:36] <skunkworks> you would have to try it and see :)
[15:39:14] <andypugh> uw: Well, it is built-in to Ubunto and MacOS at least
[15:39:32] <andypugh> uw: Just turn on screen sharing in the preferences
[15:39:49] <uw> for my cameras, i just run dedicated computers. pretty much just turn a webcam in to a network cam
[15:41:01] <nlkdavid> VNC is great, it my exclusive access to my linuxcnc system
[15:45:42] <nlkdavid> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Axis_Embed_Video is what i want this cam for
[15:45:46] <uw> andypugh nlkdavid , agreed, it does work well.
[15:49:04] <nlkdavid> i'm disabled & that would make setting up my fireball v90 a whole lot easyer to setup
[15:50:24] <dangercraft> Hello everyone :)
[15:50:44] <nlkdavid> howdy
[15:56:31] <JT-Shop> dangercraft: did you get the conformation email from the forum?
[15:57:21] <dangercraft> Hi! No, the lates message I have still say registration pending approval. Let me try logging in again to see
[15:57:38] <JT-Shop> I sent you a second one just in case
[15:57:48] <JT-Shop> check your spam folder
[15:58:37] <dangercraft> ok, will do, one sec
[16:01:10] <dangercraft> JT: ok, clicked on the confirm
[16:02:30] <JT-Shop> looks like someone beat me to it
[16:02:33] <andypugh> You should be in now.
[16:02:41] <JT-Shop> must have been andypugh
[16:02:44] <dangercraft> excellent thanks!
[16:02:59] <atom1> andypugh, JT-Shop do you see anything wrong with this line:
[16:03:01] <andypugh> I am debating whether 80700997@vip-watches.ru sounds like a spammer, or a cnc watchmaker
[16:03:01] <atom1> net spindle-on motion.spindle-on => hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.gpio.039.out
[16:03:03] <uw> nlkdavid, how do you like your fireball v90?
[16:03:35] <JT-Shop> that's a spammer for sure
[16:03:46] <dangercraft> a very important watchmaker :-D
[16:04:09] <andypugh> atom1: At first glance it seems plausible
[16:04:13] <JT-Shop> his name is a tip off to me Qsdcdubin IlqlctwhmTJ
[16:04:34] <andypugh> well, they do spelll funny in .ru
[16:04:43] <JT-Shop> yea
[16:04:44] <atom1> naw that's just a bad google translate
[16:05:47] <JT-Shop> Address: Moscow
[16:05:55] <JT-Shop> City: Moscow
[16:06:10] <JT-Shop> Zipcode: 123456
[16:06:29] <nlkdavid> nice machine, quite easy to assemble, 5-6hrs easy... only had it about 3wks though, made my cut last night
[16:07:11] <nlkdavid> my 1st cut last night
[16:08:12] <JT-Shop> wow the vip-watches.ru disappeared like magic
[16:08:52] <nlkdavid> ran the LinuxCNC logo sample on some cider
[16:09:25] <andypugh> I rejected him
[16:10:10] <atom1> andypugh, i think i have other logic for it that may not be quite right, however it was working before i moved the pins around
[16:11:50] <atom1> lemme paste it somewhere
[16:12:46] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[16:13:10] <andypugh> Bargain!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harmonic-Drive-Systems-Servo-drive-Actuator-includes-gear-head-motor-and-encoder-/110918376614
[16:15:14] <atom1> andypugh,
http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/spindle.hal
[16:15:52] <atom1> when i use the button on the pendant then go back to do something on the axis screen, the spindle will randomly start
[16:16:19] <atom1> by do something i mean touchoff to the G54 axis with the current location
[16:16:38] <atom1> and it causes linuxcnc to get real sluggish until it updates
[16:17:04] <andypugh> atom1: Are you delibertely using toggle _and_ toggle2nist?
[16:17:16] <atom1> yes
[16:17:44] <atom1> i would have to sit down again and figure out the logic as to why i did it
[16:18:24] <atom1> turning off the spindle in auto mode isn't such a good idea
[16:18:31] <atom1> was part of the thought process
[16:19:09] <atom1> and you already saw the output line i posted here
[16:20:02] <atom1> normally it works fine but when i go to touch off to the work offsets it screws up
[16:21:13] <atom1> bak in a bit
[16:22:52] <nlkdavid> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYMxlFH20qc my fireball v90 running 3dtest example
[16:24:58] <atom1> andypugh, is that a bad idea?
[16:25:07] <atom1> using the two together
[16:26:47] <nlkdavid> the linear shaft positions need adjusted I think, why its a bit loud in the y axis
[16:35:08] <nlkdavid> uw what software r u running ur webcams with?
[16:46:32] <andypugh> atom1: No, it ought to be fine, I was just wondering if I had spotted an incomplete swap-over
[16:48:43] <atom1> i just can't figure why the conflict
[16:49:39] <atom1> i added the pulldowns when i did the pin swap so the input logic should be the same
[16:49:51] <atom1> i think i experienced this before that anyway
[16:57:07] <WillenCMD> im having some dificulties, im using hal components yet again to drive a machine. Yet i can't get the same velocity i get in axis through my gladevcp program
[16:57:36] <WillenCMD> its or a rotational axis, its starting to drive me crazy. I feel like its a threads issue
[17:03:53] <andypugh> Higher or lower?
[17:04:10] <andypugh> Stepper?
[17:04:15] <andypugh> Reset?
[17:21:28] <WillenCMD> hmm i don't think so
[17:21:30] <WillenCMD> i'll check
[17:22:01] <WillenCMD> nope its the same
[17:22:43] <WillenCMD> for somereason the PID velocity output is lower
[17:22:48] <WillenCMD> than in axis
[17:23:38] <WillenCMD> any thoughts on that?
[17:26:19] <JT-Shop-2> andypugh: so your thinking that harmonic drive might make a rotary axis or something?
[17:26:37] <andypugh> Might, for somebody.
[17:27:00] <andypugh> Though it isn't immense torque. And he won't ship to the UK
[17:27:20] * JT-Shop-2 should not cruse flea bay
[17:27:24] <uw> nlkdavid, they are thin clients and are running ffmpeg. they report to my zoneminder server that detects motion and records
[17:27:42] <andypugh> Spec is here, it's an RH-14D 3002
http://www.harmonicdrive.net/media/support/catalogs/pdf/rh-dc-servo-catalog.pdf
[17:28:23] <andypugh> 20Nm. It would work OK for a screwdriver...
[17:28:51] <Tom_itx> too big for my sherline
[18:41:03] <Nick001-Shop> can linuxcnc control more than 1 spindle call per machine - like 3 or more separate drill heads on a special built machine - 1 of them rigid tapping
[18:46:47] <WillenCMD> im sure it can be done
[18:47:00] <WillenCMD> gladevcp
[18:47:53] <WillenCMD> if you want to retain the gui part of linuxcnc such as axis, embed it inside if not use standalone gladevcp
[18:54:05] <andypugh> Nick001-Shop: DO you want to control the spindles from G-code?
[18:54:38] <andypugh> It's a bit tricky, in one way. What G-code command do you want to use to set the speed and turn on/off the extra spindles
[18:59:54] <skunkworks__> andypugh: so the arduino interface with linuxcnc.. (by way of mesa serial) that is realtime?
[19:00:10] <andypugh> yes
[19:00:32] <skunkworks__> that is pretty cool... you would have realtime analog inputs...
[19:06:41] <skunkworks__> how are you comunicating? 2 digital i/o pins?
[19:07:42] <Tom_itx> spi maybe?
[19:07:48] <Tom_itx> i2c
[19:08:44] <andypugh> Just serial
[19:09:05] <skunkworks__> using the usb interface?
[19:09:06] <andypugh> Some Mesa firmwares have UARTs on some pins
[19:09:17] <Nick001-Shop> Be back ltr dinner call
[19:09:40] <andypugh> I just wired the TX and RX pins on the Arduino to the RX and TX pins on the Mesa card
[19:10:24] <skunkworks__> neat
[19:10:38] <jthornton> what did I miss
[19:10:39] <Jymmm> no ground?
[19:10:44] <andypugh> You can push an Arduino to 2000000pbs
[19:10:49] <Tom_itx> would an adc serial card with screw terminals be in order?
[19:11:09] <Tom_itx> andypugh is yours the mega328?
[19:11:10] <andypugh> Jymmm: I have a gnd wire. Yes. But they are shared elsewhere too.
[19:11:18] <andypugh> No, Uno
[19:11:36] <Tom_itx> right but what is the main chip?
[19:11:52] <Jymmm> jthornton: Miss July gave us a private show
[19:12:03] <jthornton> shoot
[19:15:53] <andypugh> I guess Atmega368
[19:16:03] <andypugh> As that is the one I have a datasheet for
[19:16:43] <Tom_itx> 328?
[19:17:05] <Tom_itx> that's one of the more common ones now
[19:18:35] <andypugh> Yes, 328. I must have the wrong datasheet :-)
http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardUno
[19:19:36] <andypugh> If space is short:
http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardNano
[19:20:42] <andypugh> Oh, I just realised, I was wrong. Mine is a Duemillenova (ATmega328p)
[19:21:37] <Tom_itx> they're all relatively the same code wise
[19:22:32] <Tom_itx> the U4 would be another good choice as it has onboard adc
[19:22:59] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/boards/atmega32u4/atmega32u4_1.jpg
[19:24:40] <Tom_itx> and hardware usart with hardware flow control
[19:29:25] <Jymmm> jthornton: Free Boat
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/zip/3142992707.html
[19:30:28] <jthornton> come get this trash I can't toss out without getting in trouble LOL
[19:31:08] <Jymmm> BOAT == Buck Out Another Thousand
[19:31:15] <andypugh> It seems that the motor was removed using a chainsaw?
[19:31:38] <Jymmm> sawzall?
[19:31:52] <Tom_itx> a turd on wheels?
[19:32:09] <Jymmm> no, triailer not included
[19:32:35] <Jymmm> Just a teal turd
[19:42:06] <Nick001> Back with that multiple spindle question including 1 or 2 of them doing rigid tapping. can it be done in axis?
[19:46:00] <skunkworks__> rigid tapping? that is a linuxcnc thing - not really a UI thing
[19:46:37] <Nick001> UI -- ?
[19:46:48] <skunkworks__> user interface - like axis
[19:46:59] <skunkworks__> unless I am miss-understanding your question
[19:47:50] <Nick001> just trying to control multiple drilling and tapping spindles on a special machine
[19:47:56] <skunkworks__> oh
[19:48:27] <skunkworks__> do they all move independently? or are they fixed?
[19:48:52] <Nick001> 6-8 spindles each on its own slide independantly contolled
[19:49:11] <Nick001> controlled
[19:49:32] <skunkworks__> so - each one has its own 'z' axis?
[19:50:06] <Nick001> right and 1 extra rotary spindle for rotating the part
[19:50:50] <skunkworks__> you lost me again
[19:50:53] <skunkworks__> :)
[19:50:58] <Nick001> spot,drill, tap in 90 deg apart
[19:51:16] <skunkworks__> picture?
[19:51:18] <r00t4rd3d> is measurement determined differently in Windows compared to Linux?
[19:51:30] <r00t4rd3d> well now that i read that i am sure it is
[19:51:51] <r00t4rd3d> calculated would be a better word for determined
[19:51:58] <Nick001> cross drilling and tapping a hub in 2 positions
[19:52:26] <Nick001> picture tomorrow
[19:53:00] <jdh> math pretty much just works in windows too.
[19:55:12] <WillenCMD> Nick001: You could write a gladevcp program to do it all
[19:55:22] <skunkworks__> Nick001: well - Hal gives you the abillity to connect/disconnect joints from motion
[19:56:00] <Nick001> thats all new to me - I just got a Hardige running
[19:56:25] <skunkworks__> might take some thought
[19:56:26] <Nick001> any info on connect/disconnect joints from motion
[19:58:35] <WillenCMD> halcmd tutorials are few an far between
[19:58:44] <Nick001> alot of thougt - just smoked an H-bridge trying to get a motor going
[19:58:45] <skunkworks__> Nick001: what h-bridge?
[19:58:54] <Nick001> hooked up to etch-servo - from spark-fun
[19:59:36] <Nick001> might have overdone the PID
[20:12:23] <andypugh> Nick001: If you are prepared to use M65 (or M68, something like that) to set spindle speed then it is relatively easy. If you want to use for example, M3.1, M4.1 to start and stop spindles then it's a bit more tricky. If you want to overload the S word to set more than one spindle speed, then I have no idea how you would do it.
[20:12:47] <andypugh> Are you planning to use more than one spindle at a time?
[20:13:10] <andypugh> And I don't know why I am asking questions, I am going to bed.
[20:13:14] <andypugh> Night all
[21:32:57] <r00t4rd3d> quiet tonight
[21:33:07] <ReadError> hwdhf;oahjsdfhygo[asd[ofasdhf[oashfassd\
[21:33:10] <r00t4rd3d> everyone on bath salts without me or something?
[21:33:30] <ReadError> bogarting the bathsalts
[21:33:47] <ReadError> how did family guy cut turn out
[21:33:58] <r00t4rd3d> my coupler came loose
[21:34:03] <r00t4rd3d> BLAST!
[21:34:11] <ReadError> man you cant catch a break huh
[21:37:17] <r00t4rd3d> everytime i attempt that one something goes wrong
[21:37:36] <r00t4rd3d> my shaft broke on the first attempt
[21:38:19] <r00t4rd3d> im messing with lego batman and topo maps of the us now
[21:40:50] <Tom_itx> you better do something about that mount
[21:46:37] <r00t4rd3d> what mount?
[21:46:48] <r00t4rd3d> motor mount?
[21:49:04] <r00t4rd3d> ive changed the way i cut somewhat. I was using my X axis, the longest of all, to do most of the moving. Now i use my y axis to do the majority of moving, at least for inlays
[21:50:21] <Tom_itx> well the shaft needs to be aligned or the same thing will happen again
[21:50:30] <r00t4rd3d> it is now
[21:50:33] <Tom_itx> and if it's not a rigid mount you should have a flex joint
[21:50:34] <r00t4rd3d> perfectly
[21:50:58] <Tom_itx> like andy said the other day, tighten the coupler then the mount
[21:51:30] <r00t4rd3d> i can unhooke both ends of my lead screw , slide and gantry back and forth and my lead screw goes in and out the bearing block holes.
[21:52:07] <r00t4rd3d> and=my
[21:52:09] <r00t4rd3d> i think
[21:52:14] <r00t4rd3d> slide my
[21:53:51] <r00t4rd3d> i made sure it was dead even with the coupler too, i could slide the shaft right into the coupler after i mounted it to the shaft
[21:53:57] <r00t4rd3d> err mounted to lead screw
[22:03:48] <r00t-Shed> http://i.imgur.com/JeUsG.png
[22:03:56] <r00t-Shed> thats what i am doing now :)
[22:04:54] <r00t-Shed> i was looking at my screenshot and i thought the program froze
[22:05:02] <r00t-Shed> i almost hit estop
[22:06:03] <Tom_itx> what are you doin with all those?
[22:06:29] <r00t-Shed> burning barrel
[22:07:05] <r00t-Shed> some crap my friends take
[22:07:48] <r00t-Shed> my one friend sanded up and painted a harely logo i did and it actually looks pretty good
[22:08:27] <r00t-Shed> he painted it with bed liner
[22:08:54] <r00t-Shed> i will get a pic of it
[22:09:36] <uw> what do you use to generate the gcode?
[22:09:47] <r00t-Shed> wand
[22:10:12] <r00t-Shed> Microcarve
[22:10:51] <Tom_itx> how much is it?
[22:10:58] <r00t-Shed> 32 bucks or something
[22:11:11] <r00t-Shed> the guy who makes it is cool too
[22:11:12] <Tom_itx> v4?
[22:11:16] <r00t-Shed> yeah
[22:11:25] <r00t-Shed> he also makes z axis
[22:11:32] <Tom_itx> from pics like jpeg etc?
[22:11:36] <r00t-Shed> yeah
[22:11:47] <Tom_itx> what's z axis?
[22:11:57] <r00t-Shed> i find what i want to cut on google image searches
[22:12:04] <r00t-Shed> a Z Axis?
[22:12:15] <r00t-Shed> the part that moves up and down and holds your router
[22:12:26] <Tom_itx> <r00t-Shed> he also makes z axis
[22:12:56] <r00t-Shed> hold
[22:13:37] <uw> i think he means the actual part that moves the router up and down
[22:13:49] <uw> he just sells that and you have to figure out the x-y
[22:14:36] <r00t-Shed> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/diy-cnc_router_table_machines/109390-my_newest_desktop_machine-125.html
[22:14:45] <r00t-Shed> post 1490
[22:15:35] <r00t-Shed> he sells those for like 163
[22:17:25] <Tom_itx> does it run in windows or linux?
[22:17:29] <r00t-Shed> windows
[22:17:38] <r00t-Shed> but we are working on that
[22:17:45] <r00t-Shed> i just got it to run under wine
[22:17:59] <r00t-Shed> but i had to start from a git clone and patch wine
[22:18:09] <r00t-Shed> build it all from source
[22:18:13] <Tom_itx> what's the difference between microcarve and micropath?
[22:18:19] <r00t-Shed> path is old version
[22:18:44] <Tom_itx> wonder why he still sells it if there's a new ver
[22:19:14] <r00t-Shed> cheaper?
[22:19:37] <Tom_itx> what's 5 bucks among friends
[22:20:11] <Tom_itx> wonder if he takes paypal
[22:20:27] <r00t-Shed> on ebay
[22:20:41] <r00t-Shed> curtis
[22:20:47] <r00t-Shed> its his buddy
[22:20:47] <Tom_itx> he does
[22:21:01] <r00t-Shed> they email you the code
[22:21:10] <Tom_itx> will it carve metal?
[22:21:12] <r00t-Shed> and msg u it on ebay
[22:21:17] <Tom_itx> i suppose you can adjust the feed speed
[22:21:19] <r00t-Shed> it dont care
[22:21:27] <r00t-Shed> feedspeed depth
[22:21:32] <r00t-Shed> you can try it for free
[22:21:45] <Tom_itx> meh i'm not gonna waste my time on a watermark
[22:21:46] <r00t-Shed> but it puts a line corner to corner, watermark, in your carving
[22:22:07] <r00t-Shed> you can mess with it though before you buy
[22:22:24] <Tom_itx> does it let you choose a cutter size?
[22:22:27] <r00t-Shed> and he dont care how many computers you put it on
[22:22:46] <Tom_itx> good, send it to me :)
[22:22:50] <Tom_itx> kidding of course
[22:22:59] <r00t-Shed> you choose the stepover
[22:23:11] <Tom_itx> what stepover do you use?
[22:23:15] <Tom_itx> .010 or so?
[22:23:16] <r00t-Shed> you determine the step over by the size of your bit
[22:23:46] <Tom_itx> you use a pointed bit?
[22:23:52] <r00t-Shed> all kinds
[22:24:04] <r00t-Shed> mostly ballends
[22:24:12] <Tom_itx> what diameter?
[22:24:16] <Tom_itx> 1/8"
[22:24:17] <r00t-Shed> 1/16
[22:24:19] <Tom_itx> k
[22:24:32] <Tom_itx> i'm not sure i can get ballnose that small locally
[22:25:05] <r00t-Shed> ebay
[22:25:36] <Tom_itx> how long does it take to get the code?
[22:25:38] <r00t-Shed> i also use 1/16 carbide plunge tips
[22:25:46] <r00t-Shed> v bits
[22:25:59] <Tom_itx> i have some .032 em
[22:26:05] <r00t-Shed> vbit and low stepover = mad detail
[22:26:07] <Tom_itx> and some tiny ones
[22:26:38] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/etching/mills1.jpg
[22:26:45] <r00t-Shed> "I usually do a roughing pass with 1/8" ball nose and 15-20% stepover then a finishing pass with a 1/16" ball nose with a 7-10% step over."
[22:26:48] <r00t-Shed> from another users
[22:26:51] <Tom_itx> i think the small one is .015"
[22:26:53] <Tom_itx> i forget now
[22:27:37] <r00t-Shed> "If so you can do even better with ball-nose bits with a stepover of 7-9% of the cutter width."
[22:27:42] <r00t-Shed> diff user
[22:27:55] <r00t-Shed> same q, wtf to use for bits
[22:29:18] <Tom_itx> what do you do, download the file then get the key via email?
[22:29:38] <r00t-Shed> yeah
[22:29:49] <r00t-Shed> they also msg u on ebay
[22:29:59] <r00t-Shed> did you buy it?
[22:30:04] <Tom_itx> no
[22:30:17] <Tom_itx> i have cad cam but i may just for something to play with
[22:30:28] <r00t-Shed> its super easy
[22:30:44] <r00t-Shed> you can do your face or nutsack
[22:30:48] <r00t-Shed> just take a pic !
[22:31:00] <Tom_itx> i'll pass on that
[22:31:16] <r00t-Shed> do your sack and give it to your mom for xmas
[22:32:16] <Tom_itx> leave her out of it, she's not with us anymore
[22:32:57] <r00t-Shed> certainly you knew i was kidding
[22:33:16] <Tom_itx> still, you should have some tact on irc
[22:33:36] <r00t-Shed> heh
[23:30:06] <r00t-Shed> Buzz Killington
[23:30:19] <r00t-Shed> Jymmm
[23:35:55] <Jymmm> ?
[23:38:19] <r00t-Shed> wasup!
[23:43:27] <tjb1> Anyone know that thread on cnczone that has a auto punch on it?
[23:43:36] <tjb1> the auto punch beside the plasma torch
[23:48:23] <tjb1> No one?
