#linuxcnc | Logs for 2012-01-28

[04:30:07] <awallin> check this: http://openscam.com/
[04:44:26] <awallin> sumpfralle: did you know about OpenSCAM ?
[09:07:08] <cncbasher> anyone have watchdog probs , with latest git pull
[09:07:33] <cncbasher> Watchdog has bit! (set the .has-bit pin to False to resume)
[10:04:33] <seb_kuzminsky> cncbasher: oops, i just messed with that...
[10:09:00] <seb_kuzminsky> awallin: dude named his project open scam? :-/
[10:10:13] <seb_kuzminsky> cncbasher: can you pastebin your config files please?
[10:10:49] <cncbasher> yea sure 1 min
[10:11:05] <seb_kuzminsky> i guess it was too much to hope that that change wouldnt break it for anyone
[10:11:34] <seb_kuzminsky> does it bite right when you start linuxcnc, or is it later while running?
[10:11:47] <cncbasher> soon as it starts up
[10:15:04] <seb_kuzminsky> what's your servo period?
[10:15:14] <cncbasher> http://pastebin.com/xeS7FdCx
[10:15:20] <seb_kuzminsky> thx
[10:15:28] <cncbasher> running steppers
[10:15:41] <cncbasher> on this particular setup
[10:16:02] <seb_kuzminsky> somewhat confusingly, there's still a thread called the "servo thread"
[10:16:16] <seb_kuzminsky> it's in the .ini file, in the [EMCMOT] section, a variable called SERVO_PERIOD
[10:17:17] <seb_kuzminsky> you set your watchdog timeout to 10 ms, that seems fine
[10:17:24] <seb_kuzminsky> you run the pet_watchdog function, that seems fine
[10:22:40] <cncbasher> http://pastebin.com/2egPtySB
[10:22:54] <cncbasher> thats the current dmesg output
[10:24:21] <seb_kuzminsky> what's your servo period?
[10:27:04] <cncbasher> SERVO_PERIOD = 1000000
[10:27:21] <cncbasher> basic pncconf defaults at the moment
[10:27:29] <seb_kuzminsky> yep, that's good too
[10:27:39] <seb_kuzminsky> ok bummer, it's not something easy ;-)
[10:27:47] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll try to reproduce it here
[10:28:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i did all my testing on a 5i20, i should try a 7i43...
[10:28:35] <seb_kuzminsky> i'll do it later today
[10:29:17] <cncbasher> http://pastebin.com/DeVLGtXA
[10:29:27] <cncbasher> theirs my ini file also
[10:29:46] <cncbasher> oh heck hope it's not trauma now for you
[10:31:43] <seb_kuzminsky> logger[mah]:
[10:31:44] <logger[mah]> seb_kuzminsky: Log stored at http://linuxcnc.mah.priv.at/irc/%23linuxcnc/2012-01-28.html
[10:32:20] <seb_kuzminsky> cncbasher: thanks for the bug report!
[10:33:37] <cncbasher> seb>hope it's only a small bug to squash
[10:33:43] <seb_kuzminsky> me too! :-)
[10:33:48] <mrsun> hmm, coordinate table and a stirdy base to bolt it to could make a pretty nice mill, with replaceable table =)
[13:56:08] <pcw_home> seb_kuzminsky: (should you read this later) if you ever disable the watchdog by setting a
[13:56:10] <pcw_home> timeout value with the MSB set, this will cause a watchdog bite if the previous MSB was 0
[13:56:12] <pcw_home> so you will need to clear this before proceeding
[13:57:12] <GoSebGo> pcw_home: ok i'll check for that
[15:05:32] <gene76> Hi all, I have a probing probem. Probe is wired pin 15 high when no contact, have "net probe parport.0.pin-15-in-not => motion.probe-input" in .hal, and I can see motion-probe-input responding but G38.2 f.1 z0.055 doesn't see it, should see it at about z0.0571
[15:05:56] <gene76> Ideas?
[15:07:02] <gene76> motion-probe-input does respond ok
[15:07:32] <cradek> what version are you running?
[15:08:03] <gene76> 2.6.0-pre, last that I know about
[15:08:34] <gene76> Before the name change IOW Chris
[15:08:43] <cradek> unfortunately that version number doesn't tell us much
[15:08:57] <cradek> I think this might be a bug that is fixed, but I can't say whether you have the fix
[15:08:57] <gene76> WHere do I look?
[15:09:09] <cradek> is it a buildbot package, or did you build it?
[15:09:19] <gene76> buildbot
[15:09:39] <cradek> dpkg -l emc2
[15:09:59] <cradek> will tell you the git revision
[15:10:21] <gene76> 2.6.0~pre0.2264.gfecf238
[15:11:53] <cradek> hm, you sure oughta have the fix, then.
[15:12:13] <cradek> does motion.probe-input switch from FALSE to TRUE when you poke the probe?
[15:13:34] <gene76> I'll have to check that, I am using halscope to monitor it. will the name change be automatic or do I need to putz with anything in /etc?
[15:14:02] <cradek> I'm not sure the state of updating via buildbot packages
[15:14:22] <cradek> I think the linuxcnc package "obsoletes" the emc2 package
[15:14:52] <gene76> The question answer is yes.
[15:15:17] <cradek> ok
[15:15:19] <gene76> If tthere is a new build it hasn't been offered.
[15:15:43] <cradek> just to be sure I understand you - the g38.2 move continues to move after the motion.probe-input sees a rising edge?
[15:16:44] <gene76> yes, my stop point is about -.002" from that point, it runs to the end and reports the signal wasn't found
[15:17:27] <cradek> ok hmm, the only way I know this is possible is if you're not running the version you think. do you have more than one version on the system? maybe one installed and one run-in-place?
[15:17:49] <cradek> (well unless we have a regression of course)
[15:18:57] <gene76> I'm now confused, I go back and do it again from about 2 thou up and its now working!
[15:19:16] <gene76> Lemme back half an inch & try again.
[15:22:32] <gene76> and it has now worked twice from .5" up, stopping at .0559 twice
[15:22:55] <gene76> How can I inspect #5063 right now from MDI
[15:23:12] <cradek> (debug,#5063)
[15:24:30] <gene76> 0.055953, I think thats close enough for the girls I go with :)
[15:26:20] <gene76> So it is now working and my auto z cal script should too. Find out how tall my gage contact is and a bit of subtraction should give me a G92 Zvalue
[15:26:54] <cradek> cool! tool length probing?
[15:28:14] <gene76> That is the general idea Chris. But first I need to clean it up so I can remount to pcb pallet and measure how tall it is by the same means because what I need for the math is the difference
[15:28:26] <cradek> aha
[15:28:36] <cradek> tool length probing is one of the things that makes life good
[15:28:57] <gene76> I have been known to skin a cat now and then.. ;-)
[15:29:02] <cradek> that and coffee
[15:29:12] <gene76> Amen
[15:29:15] <cradek> I'm sure I could come up with a longer list if I tried.
[15:30:33] <gene76> So could I but at my age, most of the other important things are several entries down the list. Dammit. Sugar ruins lots of things...
[15:32:19] <gene76> Speaking of coffee, mine is both cold & empty, a truly revoltin' development, plus its time to go see what Dee wants for dinner Thanks for the hand holding.
[15:33:11] <gene76> I'll put that script up on my web page once I've proved its bullet-proof.
[15:33:44] <gene76> You will have perms to add it to the wiki in case I crash a drive :(
[15:42:09] <Jymmm> GENE !!!! How the hell are ya?
[15:43:10] <Jymmm> And everyone else too =)
[15:58:56] <Loetmichel> *bah* ... cold coffee... the mentoin alone gets my guts revolting...
[15:59:47] * Loetmichel makes himself a another latte macciato with caramel syrup ;-)
[16:09:31] <IchGucksLive> hi the new patch for foamcutting is out now selection is also includet
[16:21:05] <Jymmm> latte macciato with caramel syrup?! THAT AINT COFFEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[16:21:37] <Jymmm> That's some foo foo poofiness drunk thru a pink straw with an umbrella on top!
[16:22:20] <Jymmm> Now, when you can pour your coffee and it takes 5m to fill a cup cause it's so thick. NOW YER TALK'N!!! LOL
[16:38:04] <andypugh> A friend of mins gave me as espresso machine last week. I haven't slept since.
[16:40:05] <Loetmichel> harhar
[16:40:41] <Loetmichel> Jymmm/andypugh: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12721 <- i have MORE strange syrups there...
[16:41:24] <Loetmichel> even irish coffe should be somwhere
[16:41:26] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[16:41:33] <andypugh> I wonder how hard it would be to plumb mine in to the mains water?
[16:42:36] <Loetmichel> andypugh: no, just buy a "filler" for the water closet and mount it behind the water tank
[16:43:08] <Loetmichel> closed curcuit isnt possible 'cause there are no valves inside to block the water pressure.
[16:43:11] <Loetmichel> just the pumps
[16:43:46] <andypugh> I was thinking I could perhaps add as solenoid valve that actuates with the pump.
[16:47:49] <Loetmichel> hmmm
[16:47:54] <Loetmichel> i wouldnt risk taht
[16:47:57] <Loetmichel> that
[16:48:34] <Loetmichel> because i dont know how the pumps react if the get 4++bar on the INPUT
[16:49:14] <Loetmichel> if they put the input pressure on TOP of the output you COULD ruin the plumbing inside the saeco
[16:49:59] <andypugh> Mine is a Gaggia, but I think the same thing applies
[16:50:16] <andypugh> I guess the right component is a 0-bar regulator.
[16:55:42] <Loetmichel> or a miniature toilet valve inside the tank ;-)
[16:57:55] <Loetmichel> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Geberit-Ersatz-Fullventil-Kompakt-Spulkasten-215510001-/260757543735 <- something like this
[17:14:15] <andypugh> It would work, but seems expensive. And doesn't seem to involve an Arduino in any way!
[17:36:10] <andypugh> Woohoo! I can make bitfiles!
[17:36:50] <andypugh> As an exercise I just made a 24-encoder 5i23 firmware, and it appears to work.
[17:38:46] <mikegg> evening fellas
[17:46:02] <andypugh> Hi
[17:46:48] <skunkworks> andypugh: awesome!!
[18:08:49] <JT-Shop> cool
[18:12:10] <andypugh> I am idly pondering a firmware-on-demand service. But don't hold your breath, I collect projects like a dog collects fleas/
[18:18:43] <Jymmm> andypugh:
[18:18:51] <Jymmm> Ye Old Coffee Can Hobo Stove...
[18:18:51] <Jymmm> Construction complete.... http://i42.tinypic.com/120t4cz.jpg
[18:18:51] <Jymmm> Baptism by fire... http://i44.tinypic.com/9u54r4.jpg
[18:18:52] <Jymmm> Loading more sticks/twings... http://i39.tinypic.com/yyrs4.jpg
[18:18:54] <Jymmm> Boiling some water in a soup can in the hobo stove... http://i51.tinypic.com/2e51c2x.jpg
[18:20:33] <Jymmm> alcohol, fuel-cans, and fuel tabs work great too.
[18:20:34] <andypugh> I am no expert, but I think you might want to reconsider your airflow. I think it is meant to flow in the base, through the combustibles, and out the top round the pan.
[18:20:58] <andypugh> Your version is easier to stoke, of course.
[18:21:12] <jdhNC> with small holes around the base?
[18:21:18] <Jymmm> andypugh: True, but I wanted the base to be a reservior for alcohol
[18:21:33] <Jymmm> andypugh: I should add vent holes at the top though for a small frying pan
[18:21:58] <Jymmm> jdhNC: at the bottom?
[18:22:06] <andypugh> Put he vent holes in the frying pan, use the bacon fat as extra fuel :-)
[18:22:16] <jdhNC> near the bottom, so air can come up to the materail
[18:22:21] <Jymmm> andypugh: LOL, that WOULD work.
[18:22:39] <Jymmm> jdhNC: You think the 3"x3" hole isnot big enough?
[18:22:59] <jdhNC> sure, but that doesn't get oxygen to the bottom
[18:23:23] <Jymmm> jdhNC: I want a reservoir in the bottom for alcohol or other liquid fuels.
[18:23:27] <jdhNC> guess you would need somethign to keep the fuel off the bottom then
[18:24:06] <Jymmm> jdhNC: I have some expanded aluminum I could use to suspend, but it's oly an inch or so
[18:24:11] <Jymmm> only
[18:24:53] <Jymmm> The sticks/twigs are mostly a LAST resort. I plan on using/storing fuel cans for the most part.
[18:25:10] <Jymmm> and I do NOT mean sterno.
[18:25:12] <jdhNC> I would assume the entire device is mostly a LAST resort
[18:25:32] <Jymmm> jdhNC: Not really, nicse lil backpack stove.
[18:25:33] <jdhNC> my first choice is the stove in the kitchen
[18:25:48] <Jymmm> jdhNC: Mine is the BBQ =)
[18:25:52] <Jymmm> or smoker
[18:26:02] <jdhNC> that's my 2nd & 3rd
[18:26:25] <jdhNC> I just put a 10lb picnic on the smoker
[18:27:38] <Jymmm> andypugh: jdhNC This is GREAT stuff, FAA approved and doesn't evaporate even after 5+ years... http://makais.com/product_images/s/050/0450__96756_zoom.jpg
[18:28:29] <Jymmm> I've had SEALED cans of sterno evaporate within 6mos
[18:28:58] <jdhNC> I never had much luck doing anything with sterno
[18:29:21] <Jymmm> I had to at least try it once.
[18:29:50] <Jymmm> I can store 2-3 cans of CAMP HEAT in the hobo stove easily enough.
[18:32:07] <jdhNC> is there a minimum resolution spindle encoder needed for emc tapping on a lathe?
[18:32:53] <Jymmm> I thought 1024, but I could be mistaken
[18:34:19] <andypugh> jdhNC: Minimum is 1 ppr.
[18:34:42] <andypugh> But more is better. I have 720 and that's fine. I reckon 200 would be OK too.
[18:35:06] <jdhNC> would 2 be better than 1? or 4?
[18:35:51] <andypugh> More is better. 1 is very marginal.
[18:35:53] <jdhNC> diy disk thing with N notches?
[18:36:16] <jdhNC> can you get buy with a pport input?
[18:36:56] <andypugh> Yes.
[18:37:22] <andypugh> You would basically go for as many notches as the parport can track at the required speed.
[18:37:27] <Jymmm> andypugh: I thought paraport had a 2ms delay or something?
[18:37:56] <andypugh> Even USB does better than that, normaly.
[18:38:16] <Jymmm> andypugh: I always forget what it is, SWPadnos always has to remind me =)
[18:38:27] <Jymmm> might be 200ns for all I know.
[18:38:35] <andypugh> jdhNC: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iHKPEhyEJB1_zbvUYLQ6JNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink and https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_hlZumHKbsbV7YoKPcEmOdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[18:38:47] <Jymmm> It's 2 something something seconds is all I know =)
[18:39:20] <Jymmm> andypugh: I dont know about that, it might flex WAY TOO MUCH ;)
[18:39:29] <jdhNC> nice... did you do that with a slitting saw or something?
[18:39:55] <andypugh> Yes. In fact the slot-count was governed by the size of slot the saw makes.
[18:40:08] <Jymmm> andypugh: =)
[18:40:18] <Jymmm> it does look good btw
[18:40:26] <jdhNC> I'm pretty sure I can't cut that at the momen.
[18:40:39] <Jymmm> jdhNC: Wuss, you know you can!
[18:40:48] <Jymmm> YOU CAN DO IT!
[18:41:19] <andypugh> Well, there is another way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1zCG-uPaoM&feature=g-upl&context=G2e3f7faAUAAAAAAAAAA
[18:42:01] <andypugh> Pen to make the marks, then etch in FeCl to matt-off the un-inked sections.
[18:42:12] <Jymmm> http://www.flickr.com/photos/stilldavid/2475768802/
[18:42:31] <Jymmm> You COULD use a laser printer and some THIN paper or velum
[18:42:33] <andypugh> Then the AEDR8300 seems to work well (and is quadrature in a single package)
[18:42:42] <Jymmm> velium
[18:42:45] <Jymmm> wax paper
[18:42:47] <Jymmm> etc
[18:42:51] <andypugh> Yes, laser and OHP transparency is fine.
[18:43:26] <andypugh> There is a postscript file out there that you can edit to create any size and slot count.
[18:43:57] <Jymmm> http://i40.tinypic.com/vhunt2.jpg
[18:44:07] <andypugh> I made an OK encoder by wrapping a laser-printed set of stripes around the lathe spindle.
[18:44:13] <Jymmm> http://i42.tinypic.com/160d98m.jpg
[18:44:30] <andypugh> Jymmm: That looks like the one.
[18:45:22] <Jymmm> hang on, posting the PS file
[18:45:25] <andypugh> http://fennetic.net/machines/encoders.html
[18:45:34] <andypugh> I win
[18:46:04] <Jymmm> then I won't
[18:46:50] <andypugh> encoder-panelised is the file, open it in a text editor, and you will see it is well-comented, then send it straight to a postscript printer.
[18:47:14] <Jymmm> I lied... http://pastebin.com/JDB5Dx7G
[18:47:26] <Jymmm> or convert to pdf
[18:47:40] <andypugh> Good, because so did I, the links I posted are broken.
[18:47:50] <Jymmm> that sucks
[18:48:34] <Jymmm> andypugh: Copy that one as it took me a while to find it after these years
[18:49:10] <Jymmm> andypugh: maybe you cna toss it up on the wikie (as text)
[18:50:08] <KimK> I made a prototype encoder using EMC's @ < angle setting function in a loop to a subroutine that did the milling of one slot. The whole program was just a few lines.
[18:50:17] <andypugh> Not tonight, I need to sleep.
[18:51:08] <KimK> Goodnight, Andy, best of luck!
[18:51:22] <andypugh> jdhNC: Any gear in your headstock + proximity sensor can be an encoder too.
[18:51:29] <andypugh> Night all
[18:53:04] <KimK> jdhNC: Andy's right, have you seen Jon's mill? I'll look for the link.
[18:54:47] <KimK> jdhNC: Here you go: Adding a spindle encoder to a Bridgeport 1J head: http://www.pico-systems.com/bridge_spindle.html
[18:55:18] <KimK> jdhNC: Of course, there are many ways to skin the cat, so whatever works for you.
[18:55:54] <skunkworks> KimK: hey!
[18:56:13] <KimK> Hi Sam, how are things?
[18:56:22] <skunkworks> good - youy?
[18:56:32] <KimK> Oh, no big news.
[18:58:11] <KimK> I went to a gun show today, I understand WI has CCW now?
[18:58:33] <skunkworks> concealed carry? yes
[19:02:40] <KimK> So you guys just went through the "Mayhem in the streets, gunfights in the bars, etc., etc." baloney? Ha. So now only IL is left, I think?
[19:03:08] <skunkworks> I don't keep up. :)
[19:03:25] <skunkworks> lots of people excited about it
[19:03:37] <KimK> I understand. Anything new in the shop?
[19:07:39] <skunkworks> K&T is running well. the gantry router is getting put back together
[19:07:48] <skunkworks> Lathe next maybe
[19:11:21] <KimK> Excellent! Do you have plenty of room to put in big servos on the lathe, or are the hydraulic motors a pretty tight fit?
[19:18:33] <skunkworks> I think initalllly we are going to play with the servos
[19:18:36] <skunkworks> hydraulic
[19:18:59] <skunkworks> I don't know about z - but x is pretty open
[19:20:12] <skunkworks> (against your better judgment ;) )
[19:24:05] <KimK> Ha, no, you can make it work, especially if you use one (well, two) of those fancy proportional valves.
[19:31:10] <skunkworks> right
[19:53:31] * KimK takes that as, "Right. Like that's going to happen."
[19:54:08] <skunkworks> heh - we will try what is on there first I think
[19:54:18] <KimK> Well, you know I'll do anything I can to help.
[19:54:28] <skunkworks> thanks :)
[19:55:23] <skunkworks> KimK: making shavings http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/DSC_1826.JPG
[19:56:07] <skunkworks> http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/DSC_1830.JPG
[19:56:51] <KimK> The old-style servo valves are not too bad as long as the requested velocity (valve opening) is pretty significant. (At least 20%, maybe?) It's when creeping, or creeping to reverse-creeping is involved that the trouble starts.
[19:57:25] <skunkworks> I bet
[19:57:46] <KimK> With small feeds (small velocities, small valve openings) it often sticks.
[19:59:03] <skunkworks> the way the original circuit looks - they where constantly running a low frequency chopping on top of the actual signal probably to keep it dithering
[19:59:52] <KimK> Yes indeed, that's what the "dither" signal is supposed to be for, so maybe you can find a setting that will keep the valve spool "loose", but not jack with the part finish too much?
[20:02:19] <skunkworks> mmaybe
[20:02:34] <KimK> Or, (and this sounds *exactly* like a skunkworks project!) you can build your *own* valve, with a proper bidirectional positioning system, and position feedback!
[20:02:57] <skunkworks> heh
[20:03:44] <KimK> "We don't need no stinking proportional valves!"
[20:04:10] <KimK> That would be one for the wiki, lol!
[20:06:12] <KimK> Ooh! Chili! I'll be back after while.
[20:06:20] * KimK runs off with spoon in hand
[20:06:38] <skunkworks> ttyl
[20:24:48] <mikegg> so I built a tool changer using the tormach tooling system
[20:25:04] <mikegg> how do you keep EMC2 from kicking a tool out before you are ready?
[20:25:50] <mikegg> I linked iocontrol....tool-change to the solenoid that admits air to the cylinder
[20:26:15] <mikegg> but that goes high before the machine returns to zero and the message box pops up
[20:27:20] <mikegg> i'd like for that to go true after I click continue
[20:28:55] <mikegg> oop, that's wrong, it goes high after the machine homes
[20:30:09] <mikegg> I guess you just M1 before tool changes?
[20:31:02] <Jymmm> mikegg: Uh, who ya talkin to there?
[20:31:14] <mikegg> heh I dunno. out loud mostly
[20:31:34] <pcw_home> jdhNC the spindle position error from varying loads between encoder counts
[20:31:36] <pcw_home> should be inversely proportional to the square of the encoder counts
[20:31:37] <pcw_home> (so a 4 PPR encoder would be 16 times better than 1 PPR)
[20:31:40] <Jymmm> Uh huh..... Hello, Dr Wacko I presume =)
[20:32:13] <Jymmm> pcw_home: you mean 4x better?
[20:32:24] <pcw_home> no 16 x better
[20:32:56] <Jymmm> pcw_home: what crac...err math you doing there?
[20:33:28] <pcw_home> High school physics?
[20:33:51] <Jymmm> 1ppr == 1x, right?
[20:34:26] <pcw_home> yes
[20:34:45] <Jymmm> ok, and 2ppr == ___________?
[20:35:05] <pcw_home> 4X
[20:35:13] <Jymmm> how do you figure?
[20:36:18] <jdhNC> I have some smallish prox switches so a gear might work.
[20:36:35] <jdhNC> but, I assume there is a point that the p-port can't keep up?
[20:37:52] <Jymmm> jdhNC: you gonna use a cherry sw instead of optical?
[20:38:02] <Jymmm> for spindle encoder?
[20:38:21] <jdhNC> I was really thinking of a floppy sensor
[20:38:30] <Jymmm> hall effect?
[20:38:37] <jdhNC> ir
[20:38:41] <Jymmm> ah
[20:38:44] <mikegg> has anyone tried using an optical mouse
[20:38:45] <mikegg> ?
[20:38:54] <pcw_home> LinuxCNCs position interpolation error from the real spindle position can only be in error until the next edge
[20:38:56] <pcw_home> and the position error will be DisturbAccel*T^2 and if the error is small relative to the velocity T will be inversely proportional to encoder counts
[20:39:26] <jdhNC> I believe you :)
[20:40:13] <Jymmm> pcw_home: dont be talking that HS physics jibber jabber in here ya snot nose kid before I beat ya over the head with the cane Icarved from a fallin tree back in 1832!
[20:40:19] <pcw_home> Parallel port is probably all you need for a spindle encoder up to 100 or 200 PPR
[20:41:03] <Jymmm> pcw_home: So, a 200PPR == 4000x better?
[20:42:15] <pcw_home> Probably diminishing returns after 30 or so on a normal heavy spindle
[20:43:36] <skunkworks> mikegg: mouse wheel and sensor http://www.electronicsam.com/images/KandT/servostart/Fastermouse.png
[20:46:38] <skunkworks> mikegg: what is the deal with the tool change?
[20:47:32] <mikegg> uh, well I've got all the hardware setup. two solenoids. one on either side of a cylinder
[20:47:46] <mikegg> just wondering about how to configure software
[20:48:01] <mikegg> using belleville springs and the TTS
[20:49:07] <skunkworks> neat
[20:49:09] <mikegg> if you link the tool release solenoid to iocontrol.0.tool-change, it will kick the tool out whenever it sees M6TN
[20:49:32] <mikegg> yeah, it was fun. I need to post some vids
[20:50:54] <skunkworks> what do you want it to do?
[20:51:22] <mikegg> like the machine to home, and then popup a dialog so I can put my hand on the tool before it kicks out
[20:51:31] <mikegg> then another to grab the tool, maybe
[20:51:40] <mikegg> *another dialog box
[20:56:21] <skunkworks> I think you may need to setup a bit of ladder and or hal to accomplish this.
[21:00:24] <mikegg> I was wondering if that was going to be the case. I'd just started reading about that...
[21:01:01] <skunkworks> maybe start with the manual tool change popup in axis
[21:01:51] <cradek> don't you just need a tool release button? that's the normal way if you need to catch a tool
[21:02:00] <mikegg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXW0i1p6Bic
[21:02:03] <mikegg> here we go
[21:02:33] <mikegg> hey, that's a good idea
[21:02:38] <mikegg> !
[21:02:58] <skunkworks> heh - that would be easier....
[21:03:00] <skunkworks> cool
[21:03:14] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/jr.jpg
[21:03:24] <mikegg> I've got a feed-hold button in the perfect place. maybe time for re-assignment
[21:03:34] <cradek> see the button right above the spindle? that's factory
[21:03:34] <mikegg> i guess I could add another
[21:05:13] <mikegg> thanks guys, problem solved!
[21:08:53] * KimK wonders, "Who was that masked cradek?"
[21:09:26] <KimK> cradek: BTW, if you replied, I missed it, did we win the contest?
[21:09:42] <cradek> he's the one who sometimes doesn't answer the question at hand, favoring instead a holistic approach to problem-solving
[21:09:53] <cradek> I only remember the cookies, sorry.
[21:10:18] <KimK> Ha, it was still very amusing, thanks again.
[21:10:29] <cradek> but frankly I'm sure we'd be unbeatable in any cookie-related contest.
[21:11:34] <KimK> I don't know, if *I* count them, I'm pretty sure we'll come up short. (Mmmm, tasty! Got any more!)
[21:13:27] <KimK> BTW, would you permit me to forward your Mori files to that other Mori fellow I mentioned?
[23:10:22] <mikegg> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbM0qwAQ7LU
[23:10:27] <mikegg> there we go
[23:33:06] <jdhNC> is there a live cd torrent?
[23:46:51] <seb_kuzminsky> cncbasher: well the bad news is, i can't reproduce cncbasher's hm2 watchdog problem on my 7i43
[23:46:58] <seb_kuzminsky> and i guess the good news is the same
[23:47:05] <seb_kuzminsky> wonder why it's biting you and not me
[23:47:37] <seb_kuzminsky> i noticed you have a non-standard firmware... ORAC3? would you try it please with the SVST4_4 firmware from the hostmot2-firmware-7i43 package?