Aug 31 2021
01:28 AM seb_kuzminsky: it looks to me like 2.8 won't run on Bullseye unless we backport all the python3 fixes
01:33 AM seb_kuzminsky: maybe you folks knew that already, but it's news to me
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06:13 AM jepler[m]: seb_kuzminsky: it looks like libeditreadline-dev is the current blessed way to have gpl2 code that readlines
06:14 AM jepler[m]: there is a python2.7 package in bullseye but I dunno if there are "all the goodies" that linuxcnc needs
06:14 AM jepler[m]: JT-Shop: I know about the wiki error (it's been going on for quite some time) but have never looked into it.
06:46 AM rene-dev: seb_kuzminsky I think its easier to make a new release, instead of backporting all the python changes...
07:20 AM jepler[m]: python3 is a good enough reason to release a new linuxcnc, as long as nothing else is broken, but I sure don't know the state of things
08:03 AM Eric_ is now known as unterhausen
09:05 AM jepler[m]: yeah python2 stuff we need is missing, I noticed yapps and lxml right away. so accelerating a new relese for buster would be a good thing. not that I can offer to help in any tangible way.
09:10 AM seb_kuzminsky: so 2.9 might be a kind of modernization release to try to keep up with the time, with python3, maybe gtk3 (or is that already out of date too?)
09:12 AM jepler[m]: wiki: short story seems to be that dreamhost's very active security configuration thinks that wiki markup is suspicious and doesn't allow the request.
09:12 AM jepler[m]: s/./.> /
09:12 AM jepler[m]: > [Tue Aug 31 06:56:20.623738 2021] [:error] [pid 7515:tid 3557935736576] [client 220.127.116.11:53530] [client 18.104.22.168] ModSecurity: Access denied with code 418 (phase 2).
09:12 AM jepler[m]: seb_kuzminsky: I think gtk4 will come out about the time we would get everything on gtk3
09:13 AM roguish[m]: jepler: seb_kuzminsky rene-dev sounds like a very good time to draw a line and move forward......
09:14 AM roguish[m]: seb_kuzminsky: very nice to see you back.............
09:19 AM seb_kuzminsky: hi :-)
09:20 AM seb_kuzminsky: i'm not sure if i'm "back" or if i'm just popping in momentarily to say hi, we'll see how it plays out
09:24 AM roguish[m]: seb_kuzminsky: it's cool. we always appreciate your interest and help
09:25 AM roguish[m]: you can hang out and lurk.....
09:31 AM seb_kuzminsky: a bunch of our python scripts shebang python (without a version number in the executable name), according to PEP 394 (https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/) those should be updated to call python3 explicitly
09:31 AM seb_kuzminsky: is that part of what rene's been working on?
09:35 AM rene-dev: Yes
09:44 AM rene-dev: Migration from gtk3 to 4 will probably be easier than 2 to 4. and also, wont be shipped soon.
12:39 PM jepler[m]: https://lwn.net/Articles/867919/rss
12:45 PM seb_kuzminsky: confetti.gif
02:13 PM JT-Shop: jepler[m], is there a .htaccess file in that directory?
02:13 PM JT-Shop: that == wiki
02:13 PM jepler[m]: Dunno, can I fix it that way?
02:15 PM JT-Shop: sometimes you can specify the access rights in a .htaccess file
02:15 PM JT-Shop: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/htaccess.html
03:32 PM jepler[m]: JT-Shop: there is a .htaccess file, but internet seems to indicate that the host does not permit disabling this scanning from it.
03:53 PM jepler[m]: thanks to intervention from swpadnos in the dreamhost control panel it MAY be possible to edit the wiki again.
03:53 PM jepler[m]: it was still behaving slightly oddly for me, but an edit to sandbox seems to have tkaen
04:03 PM JT-Shop: swpadnos thanks where ever you are
04:03 PM JT-Shop: jepler[m], working for me now
04:04 PM jepler[m]: vermont or something? I don't remember
04:05 PM JT-Shop: I don't think I ever knew where he is
04:07 PM JT-Shop: time to spoil the chickens :)
04:28 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
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