#linuxcnc-devel Logs
Nov 10 2019
#linuxcnc-devel Calendar
11:35 AM skunkworks: andypugh: how goes it?
11:38 AM andypugh: I did some machining today
11:38 AM andypugh: But now I am looking at Glade on Buster
11:38 AM skunkworks: Yay! Machinging is always good.
11:38 AM andypugh: I have LinuxCNC + Axis + RTAI working.
11:38 AM skunkworks: Machinging?
11:38 AM Tom_L: nice
11:38 AM andypugh: Glade is the issue
11:38 AM Tom_L: glade is missing 2 dependencies
11:38 AM Tom_L: or at least one
11:38 AM skunkworks: Is glade not working on the RPI also?
11:38 AM * skunkworks doesn't use glade
11:39 AM Tom_L: https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/#downl
11:39 AM Tom_L: dunno if that would help...
11:41 AM Tom_L: python-gtksourceview2 & python-vte are the 2 issues i think
11:41 AM andypugh: I haven’t actually tried just installing Glade as a dependency yet
11:42 AM Tom_L: jt indicated a problem with gmocappy or one of them... forget which one
11:42 AM Tom_L: i don't use either
11:43 AM andypugh: I was finding MATE too slow on this VM, so just intalled XFCE
11:43 AM andypugh: Without Glade you can’t use Touchy, GScreen or Gmoccapy.
11:43 AM skunkworks: gscreen launches on the raspian buster
11:44 AM andypugh: Presumably glade is insgtalled?
11:45 AM skunkworks: if I type glade - I get nothing...
11:45 AM skunkworks: will gscreen run without the editor?
11:45 AM skunkworks: it must.
11:46 AM skunkworks: what version of glade is needed? assume something older than 3?
11:51 AM andypugh: That is what I am trying to figure out
11:51 AM skunkworks: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/48-gladevcp/33309-glade-3-20-will-not-work-with-linuxcnc-please-follow-this-for-3-8-6
11:52 AM andypugh: If you look in synaptic, is Glade shown as installed?
11:54 AM Tom_L: trying to install gmoccapy and getting an error that gcmc_lib is already installed...
11:54 AM Tom_L: they should check for versions if it is
11:54 AM Tom_L: instead of bailing out
11:55 AM Tom_L: or put the necessary files in that folder
12:06 PM skunkworks: andypugh: I don't have synaptic installed on the pi - but grepping apt --installed gets
12:06 PM skunkworks: libglade2-0/stable,now 1:2.6.4-2 armhf [installed,automatic]
12:06 PM skunkworks: python-glade2/stable,now 2.24.0-5.1 armhf [installed]
12:07 PM andypugh: Hmm.
12:08 PM skunkworks: andypugh: this is what I followd.. https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/rpi4-emc.html
12:09 PM skunkworks: but doesn't seem to have an editor
12:10 PM skunkworks: that that doesn't install python-gtksourceview2,
12:10 PM skunkworks: python-vte
12:10 PM skunkworks: also
12:10 PM Tom_dev: loadign gscreen i get No module named gtksourceview2
12:11 PM skunkworks: Tom_dev: what is the install?
12:11 PM Tom_L: buster
12:12 PM skunkworks: Yah - on the directions for raspian buster - it doesn't install gtksourceview also - must not be a package
12:12 PM Tom_dev: same thing with gmoccapy
12:12 PM skunkworks: (and python-vte)
12:12 PM Tom_dev: both of those are missing in buster
12:16 PM Tom_dev: i've got libgtksourceview-3.0.1 installed but it's looking for an older one
12:17 PM andypugh: gtksourceview2 is available on Sid
12:17 PM skunkworks: 2.something is also installed on raspian
12:18 PM Tom_dev: i'm installing libgtksourceview2.0
12:18 PM skunkworks: raspian is 32bit
12:19 PM andypugh: The Pi is maybe 2 narrow to line if 64 bits in a row,
12:19 PM andypugh: (Err, too narrow to line up)
12:19 PM Tom_dev: still errors
12:21 PM skunkworks: gscreen launches here - but gmoccapy doesn't.
12:22 PM Tom_L: what os?
12:22 PM skunkworks: raspian (whatever buster version)_
12:22 PM skunkworks: I think it is a theme thing...
12:22 PM Tom_L: neither do on buster
12:22 PM skunkworks: so probalby not any help
12:54 PM andypugh: It turns out that you can install python-gtksourceview2 from Sid.
02:10 PM Tom_L: how?
02:11 PM skunkworks: backports?
02:11 PM andypugh: Just add sid as a repository, then via APt or Synaptic
02:11 PM Tom_L: sid is the unstable dev version
02:11 PM Tom_L: he's the bad kid next door :)
02:11 PM andypugh: http://deb.debain.org/debian sid main
02:11 PM skunkworks: Finally - the keyboard layout hasn't been right on this PI since I installed it...
02:12 PM skunkworks: Figured it out
02:12 PM Tom_L: i'll try it on buster when i get back
03:29 PM Tom_L: what is 'ocami' in libgtksourveivew2-ocami
03:32 PM Tom_L: well that still didn't fix it in buster
05:49 PM KimK: Sorry if I'm the last one to know, but I just discovered "git man page generator": https://git-man-page-generator.lokaltog.net/
05:49 PM KimK: "git-repair-ref --smell-history", lol
06:24 PM andypugh: Swell, that’s interesting..
06:26 PM andypugh: Buster / LinuxCNC 2.9 runtests: 8 failed. Stretch LinuxCNC 2.8 29 feiled.
06:26 PM andypugh: Buster running in a VM, Stretch on real hardware
06:28 PM andypugh: Ah! Didn’t rip-environment, I suspect
06:29 PM andypugh: Ah, again, that Stretch one has both an installed .deb and the source.
06:29 PM andypugh: I suspect I failed to install linuxcnc-dev
06:30 PM Tom_L: i followed this and got 2.8 on buster working: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/debian10-emc.html
06:30 PM Tom_L: added a checkout before the build of course
06:33 PM andypugh: Well, that’s one way, except that some things do need gtksourceview…
06:33 PM Tom_L: yeah
06:33 PM Tom_L: so far i don't see where to find it
06:33 PM andypugh: It’s complicated. There are lots of lists of things to do to make it work. I am trying to find the minimal set
06:34 PM andypugh: For example one on the forum begins with installing gdebi. I am sure that’s not necessary.
06:34 PM andypugh: I said, add the sid repo, then install from synaptic
06:35 PM Tom_L: i tried that with no success
06:35 PM Tom_L: maybe i added the repo wrong?
06:35 PM Tom_L: went down to the /sid/main/ directory
06:36 PM andypugh: ?
06:36 PM Tom_L: in the repo
06:36 PM andypugh: Where?
06:37 PM Tom_L: synaptic manager repos
06:37 PM andypugh: apt/sources or in synaptic?
06:38 PM andypugh: OK, so add a new repository (http://deb.debian.orgdebian) with distribution sid and (other thing) main
06:39 PM andypugh: I am not at all sure what you mean by “went down to … directory"
06:42 PM Tom_L: http://deb.debain.org/debian/sid/main
06:43 PM andypugh: That took me to Morrisons supermarkets…
06:43 PM andypugh: Maybe you need to use “debian” not “debain”
06:43 PM Tom_L: heh
06:44 PM Tom_L: well, i pulled part of that from the logs
06:44 PM Tom_L: 02:11 PM andypugh: http://deb.debain.org/debian sid main
06:44 PM andypugh: Sorry, that won’t help
06:44 PM Tom_L: pretty sure i corrected in the deb
06:45 PM Tom_L: is unstable the same as sid?
06:45 PM andypugh: https://pasteboard.co/IG7e8i1.png
06:45 PM andypugh: Yes
06:49 PM Tom_L: gmoccapy started up this time
06:49 PM Tom_L: as did gscreen
07:01 PM andypugh: Time to sleep. I was hoping to make some test .iso files, but without being able to put the files in the repository, anything I do won’t be a test.
07:01 PM Tom_L: yeah
07:02 PM Tom_L: hopefully soon the patches will trickle down to buster
07:02 PM andypugh: I can’t sign the files without the key, and I get the impression that Seb doesn’t want to put files there that are not actually released.