Feb 26 2018
12:03 AM hazzy: Reading all this has made me really appreciate LCNC more, and all the work and perseverance that has been put into it over the years. All I can say is LinuxCNC is an absolutely AWESOME project!
12:30 AM seb_kuzminsky: yeah it's pretty amazing what everyone has done over the years
12:31 AM seb_kuzminsky: and how there's still an active community around it, with new people coming in and joining up
10:29 AM W1N9Zr0: Hello! I'm trying to use hm2_pktuart, and it seems the pull request for that driver never made it to the stable branch: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/48
10:29 AM W1N9Zr0: does it depend on somethign in master or did it just get missed on a merge?
10:30 AM W1N9Zr0: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/pktuart.c vs missing file: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/v2.7.12/src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/pktuart.c
12:03 PM andypugh: W1N9Zr0: New features are not normally added to the stable branch.
12:03 PM andypugh: We let them settle in the dev branch first, in general.
12:04 PM andypugh: If you want pktuart then you probably need to run the develoment branch. (Lots of people do, it’s reasonaly robust)
12:05 PM andypugh: In other news, is the users list down?
12:05 PM andypugh: Or have I been unsubscribed?
12:06 PM cradek: I got one yesterday
12:07 PM andypugh: Yes, so did I. But anything I send to the users list seems to bounce.
12:07 PM cradek: do you get an error?
12:09 PM andypugh: Yes. But I just logged in to the mailman interface and all looks good
12:09 PM andypugh: Final-Recipient: rfc822; firstname.lastname@example.org
12:09 PM andypugh: Action: failed
12:09 PM andypugh: Status: 5.0.0
12:10 PM andypugh: Remote-MTA: dns; mx.sourceforge.net. (220.127.116.11, the server for the domain lists.sourceforge.net.)
12:10 PM andypugh: Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 unknown user
12:10 PM andypugh: Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2018 09:53:05 -0800 (PST)
12:11 PM andypugh: I can’t decide if I am the unknown user or emc-users is the unknown user.
12:12 PM cradek: it looks like emc-users is the unknown user
12:12 PM cradek: which is sure a surprise
12:15 PM cradek: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/16705/
12:16 PM cradek: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/16699/
12:16 PM cradek: https://sourceforge.net/p/forge/site-support/16700/
12:16 PM cradek: welp
12:18 PM andypugh: Can you send a test message to see if you bounce too?
12:18 PM cradek: all these bugs are in status "unread"
12:22 PM cradek: yesterday they were fighting a ddos
12:22 PM cradek: 12h ago they said all's ok now
12:22 PM cradek: they might've been wrong
12:22 PM cradek: they might all be sleeping now
12:22 PM cradek: https://twitter.com/sfnet_ops
12:46 PM seb_kuzminsky: it's really about time we release 2.8 or 3 or whatever 2.7+1 is
12:49 PM andypugh: Yes, then we can start to break master again, with multi-spindles, tool databases, G71 roughing cycles etc.
12:49 PM andypugh: (unless you want to argue for any of those going in to 2.8?)
12:59 PM Tom_L: save the sacred 3.0 for all the tooltable stuff :)
12:59 PM Tom_L: wb andy btw
01:00 PM JT-Shop: and the .glade extension meaning it was created with glade and not a text editor...
01:24 PM pcw_mesa: TwoDotEight TwoDotEight TwoDotEight
02:03 PM rene-dev: how close is 2.8 from being released? my toolchange patch is growing and growing, and I wonder if its worth fixing some bugs, instead of replacing it all at once :D
02:03 PM rene-dev: I know where everything is now
02:05 PM rene-dev: some toolchange related tests already pass, and a lot of non-toolchain related things are failing.
02:14 PM andypugh: I would say fix the bugs now, and make things less daft later.
02:30 PM rene-dev: can somebody explain what this test does? https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/tests/build/header-sanity/test.sh
02:35 PM andypugh: rene-dev: The only person who understands that might be jepler.
02:36 PM rene-dev: its really simple, but I dont understand what it does
02:38 PM rene-dev: and there are some tests and configs that still use the old style tooltables... I think they should be converted. https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/tests/ccomp/lathe-comp/test.tbl
02:39 PM rene-dev: if a user has ever edited his tooltable, it was converted automaticly...
02:41 PM andypugh: I agree
02:41 PM rene-dev: argh, most tests fail because of something like that.
02:42 PM rene-dev: I really want to get done with this, and move on to something more interesting :D the toolchange part works fine
02:43 PM rene-dev: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/tree/master/include is empty, but locally its filled with many things
03:32 PM seb_kuzminsky: rene-dev: during the build we copy some of our headers to /include, to make them available for building out-of-tree programs like guis
03:32 PM seb_kuzminsky: the test verifies that we can build out-of-tree guis, iirc
03:33 PM seb_kuzminsky: i think there's enough new stuff in master (ja!), we don't need to wait to add more features before we release
03:33 PM seb_kuzminsky: i'd rather see an effort to fix bugs in master and stabilize it for release, then new feature work after that's done
03:33 PM seb_kuzminsky: but that's just me
03:37 PM rene-dev: any specific bugs?
03:38 PM rene-dev: where and what copies that?
03:38 PM rene-dev: one more feature I would like to see ;D https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/354
03:40 PM rene-dev: ok, then let me fix the pocket bug first, and then we can se how my complete rewrite goes...
04:21 PM skunkworks_: state tags! reverse run! threading fix!
04:21 PM skunkworks_: (sorry - I haven't done any more testing)
04:22 PM skunkworks_: threading and rr I have tested - state tags - I don't know if I have
04:51 PM rene-dev: state tags I really dont know what it does. reverse run I can test. with threading, are you talkign about my stuff, or robs spindle snyc fixes?
04:51 PM rene-dev: which I BTW think are very important...
05:20 PM skunkworks_: robs stuff
05:25 PM skunkworks_: (yours is good to - different speed out)
06:45 PM hazzy: I would love to see state-tags merged. Anything I can do to help with that?
06:51 PM cradek: I think there's an outstanding bug in the tracker. It could use some more eyes I think.
06:52 PM cradek: (I would also really like that)
07:16 PM seb_kuzminsky: i spoke with zultron recently, he said he's still working on it and it's not ready yet
07:49 PM skunkworks_: cool!
07:49 PM skunkworks_: the limit has been working well too
07:49 PM skunkworks_: limit3
09:16 PM seb_kuzminsky: yeah the new limit3 is the bee's knees
09:17 PM seb_kuzminsky: it's in 2.7 already though, so... old news
09:18 PM Tom_L: still good for honerable mention