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[07:38:46] <jthornton> the download link goes to the docs so now you can't download an older version if for example you have an older PC and the HD dies and you just need to reinstall an older OS
[08:25:58] <jepler> how would you like to handle it? Here are some ideas that come to mind: Move download out of docs and to the website, move old version installation into the docs, maintain the information in two places, maintain a special "download old versions" page on the main website and leave docs alone?
[08:27:01] <jepler> the way to make changes to the www.linuxcnc.org website is with pull reqests to
https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/wlo -- I'm sure that seb_kuzminsky woudld also be happy to set you up to push directly there.
[08:27:05] <jepler> if he has not already
[08:27:12] <JT-Shop> hmm, I don't like maintaining the same thing in two places, how about a link in the docs to older verstions?
[08:28:00] <JT-Shop> I don't think I'm setup yet
[08:31:17] <jepler> the old page for your reference is here:
https://github.com/SebKuzminsky/wlo/blob/fda85b30e46b4e45cb576763b029daa3fb34f374/download/installing-emc2.md
[10:43:00] <seb_kuzminsky> i always thought it was a mistake to have install instructions for older versions prominently displayed, but i might be wrong about that
[10:49:43] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe we should add a download page in the docs, with a link to each version's install docs, and leave the real docs in the main git
[10:50:10] <Tom_itx> if they're clearly marked it could be a plus
[10:53:34] <Tom_itx> then to decide how many vers to keep
[10:54:09] <Roguish> If I might. Current versions should be first and prominent, both downloads and docs. Older versions should be referred to and pointed to. They are still important.
[10:54:22] <Tom_itx> put the old ones in an 'unsupported' section
[10:55:35] <Tom_itx> if nothing else it will serve as a reminder of all the sweat you poured over them
[10:57:45] <Roguish> Definitely distinguish between actively support and not supported but still available. Is there a difference between 'end of life' and 'end of active support'? Sometime, somehow, older versions have to be let go. They become time sucks to 'actively' support.
[11:00:57] <Roguish> ok, back under ground. I'm not saying anything that you'all don't already know. sorry.
[11:14:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05feature/uvw-blending-dev 8ff9f01 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/blendmath.c 10src/emc/tp/tc.c 10src/emc/tp/tp.c Merge branch '2.7' into feature/uvw-blending-dev * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ff9f01
[11:14:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05feature/uvw-blending-dev ef2b805 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/tp.c 10tests/trajectory-planner/circular-arcs/build-debug.sh tests: tweak debug output to log displacements without other verbose TP output * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ef2b805
[11:14:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05feature/uvw-blending-dev 298c5a6 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/tp.c tests: add id to displacement line * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=298c5a6
[11:14:48] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Robert W. Ellenberg 05feature/uvw-blending-dev b5c3562 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/tp/tp.c tests: more debug information using info_print * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=b5c3562
[11:20:06] <linuxcnc-build> build #20 of 1505.rip-jessie-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies compile] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1505.rip-jessie-rtai-i386/builds/20 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, John <jt@gnipsel.com>, Robert W. Ellenberg
[11:20:06] <linuxcnc-build> <rwe24g@gmail.com>, Balestrino <salvatore.balestrino@gmail.com>, Chris Morley <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, John Thornton <jt@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>, Bernhard M. Wiedemann <bwiedemann@suse.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, John Thornton
[11:20:06] <linuxcnc-build> <bjt128@gmail.com>
[11:52:55] <fenn> i'm getting a few emails a day from kunena since december 4th, it seems to think i'm a moderator in various forum topics even though i'm not listed as such. also i seem to be able to edit and moderate other peoples' posts, and i can read the moderator's forum. i never use the forum so i assume this is a bug related to the recent upgrade.
[11:54:43] <linuxcnc-build> build #3771 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/3771 blamelist: John Morris <john@zultron.com>, Jeff Epler <jepler@unpythonic.net>, John <jt@gnipsel.com>, Robert W. Ellenberg <rwe24g@gmail.com>, Balestrino <salvatore.balestrino@gmail.com>, Chris Morley
[11:54:43] <linuxcnc-build> <chrisinnanaimo@hotmail.com>, Norbert Schechner <nieson@web.de>, John Thornton <jt@gnipsel.com>, Chris Radek <chris@timeguy.com>, Bernhard M. Wiedemann <bwiedemann@suse.de>, Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>, Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>, John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:30:09] <jepler> fenn: I manually copied permissions from the old www.linuxcnc.org joomla site, where you were an administrator. If you want me to drop your permissions back to registered user, I can do that.
[12:31:52] <jepler> .. just let me know
[12:58:31] <fenn> jepler: it's probably best that i be reverted to a regular user. i am not very active with linuxcnc at the moment and don't really know what i'm doing with joomla, so my account can only be an additional security weak-point
[13:15:08] <skunkworks> expecially because his password is 'password'
[13:25:35] <jepler> fenn: will do.
[13:26:19] <jepler> fenn: if you get any more unwanted e-mails please don't hesitate to ask about it.
[20:28:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja10v2 51efbbb 06linuxcnc 10(18 files in 9 dirs) keystick remove * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=51efbbb
[20:28:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja10v2 e6db98b 06linuxcnc 10(31 files in 10 dirs) mini gui remove * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=e6db98b
[20:28:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja10v2 0fcf850 06linuxcnc 10(6 files) pncconf: purge mini gui option * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=0fcf850
[20:28:06] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja10v2 9d9d694 06linuxcnc 10(166 files in 38 dirs) configs/by_interface,by_machine joints_axes update * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9d9d694
[20:28:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Dewey Garrett 05dgarr/ja10v2 a9a946d 06linuxcnc 10(134 files in 59 dirs) configs cleanup some obsolete/renamed items * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a9a946d
[20:32:41] <linuxcnc-build> build #21 of 1505.rip-jessie-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed install-missing-build-dependencies compile] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1505.rip-jessie-rtai-i386/builds/21 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>
[21:06:52] <linuxcnc-build> build #3772 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/3772 blamelist: Dewey Garrett <dgarrett@panix.com>