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[00:30:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 bdb5abc 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man1/halui.1 docs: clarify some pins in the halui manpage * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=bdb5abc
[00:30:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 1dd6a18 06linuxcnc 10tests/halui/jogging/postgui.hal 10tests/halui/jogging/test-ui.py tests: test homing in halui/jogging * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=1dd6a18
[00:30:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Sebastian Kuzminsky 052.6 4458812 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/halui.cc halui: fix a copy-paste error that could prevent homing * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=4458812
[00:54:31] <linuxcnc-build> build #245 of 1500.rip-jessie-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1500.rip-jessie-i386/builds/245 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[01:10:55] <linuxcnc-build> build #3631 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/3631 blamelist: Sebastian Kuzminsky <seb@highlab.com>
[08:13:26] * jthornton understands the problem but it will take a while to fix them all
[08:53:05] <seb_kuzminsky> huh, the build failure last night was 2.6 sim building on jessie, and the failure looks like the problem we had with 2.7 uspace for a while:
[08:53:11] <seb_kuzminsky> Running test: /home/buildslave/emc2-buildbot/jessie-i386/rip-jessie-i386/build/tests/alias.0
[08:53:14] <seb_kuzminsky> halrun: Realtime already running. Use 'halrun -U' to stop existing realtime session.
[08:53:27] <seb_kuzminsky> linuxcnc-build: force build --branch=2.6 0000.checkin
[08:53:28] <linuxcnc-build> build forced [ETA 1h26m48s]
[08:53:28] <linuxcnc-build> I'll give a shout when the build finishes
[08:59:38] <seb_kuzminsky> there's a machine tool auction nearby, on monday:
http://www.rollerauction.com/auction/1000000541_ColoradoPrecisionMachiningColo.asp
[08:59:52] <seb_kuzminsky> they have a Bridgeport R2E4 described only as "Poor Condition"
[09:00:01] <seb_kuzminsky> a bunch of us from the hackspace are going to go look at it
[09:03:30] <mozmck> That' could be interesting.
[09:04:18] <mozmck> cradek: I notice that there are now buttons in topics that say "Threaded" and "Indented" - So I guess the setting I changed worked.
[09:08:59] <jepler> one button changes from "flat" to "threaded", and one changes from "threaded" to "indented"? I'm confused.
[09:09:52] <mozmck> The buttons change from the current setting to the setting listed on the button. It's a per-user setting
[09:10:08] <mozmck> Do you see the buttons?
[09:10:59] <jepler> yes I see the buttons
[09:11:16] <mozmck> There is supposed to be an option for users to change the post order too, but cradek and I could not find it yesterday.
[09:11:40] <jepler> does that mean the newest post is not necessarily on the last page now?
[09:11:46] <jepler> I predict that'll confound users
[09:12:09] <mozmck> No, there should be a setting for each user to change the default order
[09:12:47] <mozmck> The default is still oldest to newest, but cradek wanted to view newest to oldest.
[09:12:53] <jepler> oh I see
[09:13:16] <mozmck> It says users can change that for themselves, but we can't find where.
[09:45:05] <linuxcnc-build> Hey! build 0000.checkin #3632 is complete: Success [3build successful]
[09:45:05] <linuxcnc-build> Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/3632
[11:21:38] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: you're doing it wrong! you should buy a better machine for *yourself* and sell them your bridgeport
[11:34:04] <cradek> jepler: some of the things (like "recent topics") have the newest thing at the top, and others (like when you click one of the recent topics) have the newest thing another click away on page 23, and that seems like the kind of thing there'd be an option for, and apparently there is, but we can't figure out how to set it
[11:37:25] <seb_kuzminsky> cradek: i wish i could fit that fadal in my garage :-)
[11:37:48] <archivist> extend the garage
[11:38:36] <cradek> actually I kind of miss that bridgeport: it could probably fit in the basement here pretty easily (although I don't know how I'd get it in here)
[11:38:58] <cradek> a time machine would make it easy
[13:03:45] <JT-Mint> I must have done something wrong, linuxmint rt kernel installed added deb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise 2.6-rt deb-src
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise 2.6-rt and ran sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get install linuxcnc but no docs got installed. Is there an additional apt-get to install both linuxcnc and the docs?
[13:04:27] <JT-Mint> I found the docs in the synaptic package manager and installed them but was wondering about the apt-get install linuxcnc
[13:05:13] * JT-Mint goes back to the siding
[13:08:31] <cradek> linuxcnc "recommends" linuxcnc-doc-en. your apt may or may not be set up to install "recommends" packages by default
[13:09:39] <cradek> looks like the default is yes, but that can be changed by the config option APT::Install-Recommends or the --no-install-recommends command line argument
[13:24:53] <JT-Shop> cradek, thanks I'll check it out
[13:26:07] <cradek> please let me know what you find
[13:26:25] <cradek> you might not believe it, but we've had mistakes in packaging before
[13:27:43] <Tom_itx> you guys don't make mistakes...
[13:28:13] <seb_kuzminsky> i've only made a mistake once, and that was when i thought i had made a mistake but actually it was right
[13:28:56] <seb_kuzminsky> and maybe one other time when i accidentally did a bunch of work under LGPL instead of GPL
[13:31:18] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: you can see what apt thinks about that config variable by running this: apt-config dump APT::Install-Recommends
[13:32:05] <cradek> thanks, I was trying to figure that out
[14:10:22] <JT-Mint> seb_kuzminsky: APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[14:10:32] <cradek> oh good; that explains it
[15:52:15] <JT-Shop> what is the difference between deb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise 2.7-rt and deb-src
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ precise 2.7-rt
[15:52:46] <JT-Shop> deb and deb-src
[15:55:35] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: deb is for binary packages (the kind you can run & use), deb-src is for source package (the kind you can read the source code, change it, and compile it into binary debs)
[15:55:54] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: deb-src is an intermediate step between the source in git and the debs that users use
[15:57:35] <JT-Shop> thanks
[18:39:02] <skunkworks> zlog
[19:46:01] <jepler> where in our html docs is "how to build linuxcnc"?
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/
[19:46:11] <jepler> I wanted to point a user at the bit which says how to use rip-environment but .. I didn't find it
[19:47:06] <jepler> seems like rip-environment, autogen.sh, configure are all not mentioned in the docs
[19:47:10] <jepler> sigh
[19:56:38] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: it's not there
[19:56:41] <seb_kuzminsky> it's just in the wiki
[19:56:48] <jepler> Is that on purpose, or is it an oversight?
[19:56:53] <seb_kuzminsky> it should move from the wiki to the Contributing to LinuxCNC document, probably
[20:00:02] <seb_kuzminsky> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_LinuxCNC#Building_LinuxCNC_realtime
[20:00:09] <seb_kuzminsky> it's how it's always been
[20:00:22] <seb_kuzminsky> it'd be better if it was in the git docs instead of the wiki, imo
[20:00:41] <seb_kuzminsky> time to watch the Return of the Jedi with the kids & the kittens, bbl!
[20:01:39] <jepler> I hope the kittens enjoy it
[20:32:52] <skunkworks> getting ready for the next installment?