#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2015-06-01
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[06:40:34]
<jthornton>
mozmck,
http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/files/touchoff.ngc
[06:50:47]
<skunkworks>
zlog
[08:51:14]
<archivist>
a real cnc on a chip real soon?
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20150601005864/en/Intel-Acquire-Altera#.VWxaJc9Qeac
[09:41:34]
<pcw_home>
Intel manufactured Altera parts a looong time ago
[09:42:10]
<pcw_home>
(we used their EP900 PLDs for a while)
[09:49:37]
<pcw_home>
You could also just as well use a Zynq chip if you want CPU and
[09:49:38]
<pcw_home>
FPGA on the same chip (and dont needs lots of CPU horsepower)
[09:49:40]
<pcw_home>
(or just TI ARM with PRU like BBB)
[09:57:46]
<CaptHindsight>
there we two FPGA cards released recently that plug into the BBB or the RPi, both Altera
[09:58:26]
<CaptHindsight>
pcw_home: did you see the latency with preempt_rt of the ZYNQ?
[09:58:50]
<pcw_home>
Not recently
[10:00:10]
<CaptHindsight>
this looks better
http://www.wiki.xilinx.com/Zynq-7000+AP+SoC+-+RealTime+-+InterruptLatency+Reference+Design+and+Demo+Tech+Tip
[10:00:56]
<CaptHindsight>
the Zedboard tests were >50uS
[10:01:44]
<pcw_home>
Now that we can retime the position sampling even 300-400 usec latency is acceptable so its not a really big concern
[10:03:38]
<pcw_home>
(and interrupt latency is rather meaningless for linuxcnc)
[10:16:41]
<pcw_home>
(at least for servo thread only systems)
[10:18:10]
<skunkworks>
is this a lot of jitter?
[10:18:12]
<skunkworks>
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/testing/grbl/linuxcncdither.png
[10:19:27]
<skunkworks>
I just noticed that the velocity in linuxcnc was peaking at 8.8 or more in/sec... (set for 8.3) and it was peaking around that. (software stepgen at 30in/s^2 with a stepgen headroom of 34in/s^2
[10:22:31]
<pcw_home>
probably dither from beat between basethread rate and step rate
[10:23:27]
<pcw_home>
with some sampling aliasing added to the mix :-)
[10:28:36]
<skunkworks>
I suppose every few ms of jitter probably isn't going to effect motion
[10:31:26]
<skunkworks>
it averages out
[10:31:44]
<pcw_home>
It has some effect on step motor systems. People have been able to get
[10:31:46]
<pcw_home>
substatially higher rapid speeds with hardware stepgens even if the software
[10:31:47]
<pcw_home>
stepgen could generate the required step rate. I suspect it has somethin to do
[10:31:49]
<pcw_home>
with beat frequencies causing resonances at higher speeds when step motor systems
[10:31:50]
<pcw_home>
have little margin left
[10:32:04]
<skunkworks>
sure
[10:33:11]
<pcw_home>
in general though its probably not too important
[10:35:24]
<pcw_home>
might be interesting to run the software stepgen output ( at various constant speeds) through a spectrum anaylser
[10:46:04]
<pcw_home>
That is if you generate a 10.5 KHz step rate from a 50 KHz base thread you will have substantial energy at 500 Hz
[10:46:05]
<pcw_home>
(in the range of step motor resonances )
[13:04:20]
<skunkworks>
sounds like a movie plot!
[13:19:59]
<ssi>
right up there with "a monad is a monoid in the category of endofunctors" ?
[13:23:03]
<pcw_home>
Is that a funk group?
[13:23:56]
<cradek>
newgrass
[13:27:20]
<ssi>
MATHROCK
[13:48:19]
<skunkworks>
punkfolk?
[13:57:16]
<skunkworks>
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/opensource-software/271966-grbl-logging-linuxcnc.html#post1710758
[17:11:56]
<cradek>
skunkworks: mach gives you accel of 139 when you set it for max 30?
[20:18:18]
<mozmck>
Is EMC2_HOME used as an environment variable any more?
[20:20:45]
<Tom_itx>
what did it do?
[20:20:46]
<KGB-linuxcnc>
03Moses McKnight 052.7 baa2891 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/hal_sourceview.py EMC_Sourceview.set_language() was broken if no path passed in. * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=baa2891
[20:21:09]
<Tom_itx>
there are HOME_ vars but i don't think that's one of them
[20:21:23]
<mozmck>
I assume it contained the base path for linuxcnc, and may be used for RIP
[20:21:34]
<Tom_itx>
there is HOME by itself
[20:21:54]
<Tom_itx>
i'm looking in axis sections
[20:22:43]
<mozmck>
Ah, yes, it's still set in the rip-environment script.
[21:09:27]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #3172 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/3172
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[22:10:08]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #578 of 4015.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4015.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64/builds/578
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[22:13:04]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #539 of 4014.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update shell_1] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4014.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/builds/539
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[22:41:44]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #983 of 1401.rip-wheezy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed apt-get-update compile runtests] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1401.rip-wheezy-rtai-i386/builds/983
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[23:29:23]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #1321 of 1403.rip-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed garbage-collect git repo] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1403.rip-wheezy-amd64/builds/1321
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[23:29:24]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #3173 of 0000.checkin is complete: Failure [4failed] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/0000.checkin/builds/3173
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[23:50:44]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #1512 of 1404.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed garbage-collect git repo] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1404.rip-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64/builds/1512
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[23:50:46]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #1321 of 1400.rip-wheezy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed garbage-collect git repo] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1400.rip-wheezy-i386/builds/1321
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>
[23:50:52]
<linuxcnc-build>
build #1322 of 1403.rip-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed garbage-collect git repo] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/1403.rip-wheezy-amd64/builds/1322
blamelist: Moses McKnight <moses@texband.net>