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[05:32:49] <Gurwinder_> seb_kuzminsky: hi, I build linuxcnc successfully. So, lets move further
[05:34:05] <Gurwinder_> I want to do work on stepconf improvement. From where I have to start so that am get familir with its code
[05:34:21] <Gurwinder_> ?
[05:51:26] <micges> Gurwinder_: stepconf is in src/emc/usr_intf/stepconf
[06:14:45] <jthornton> are the failed shell_3 a result of my branch?
[06:17:05] <Gurwinder> (In case I lost connection) What are those requirements that are required to be added in stepconf as mentioned in GSoC LinuxCNC projects.
[07:42:41] <jthornton> should vismach be in the docs?
[08:24:42] <archivist> a proportion of us would think so yes :)
[08:25:19] <archivist> along with a it needs some luvin note
[08:25:48] <archivist> or better how to hack it to fit your machine
[08:30:21] <jthornton> I found this
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Vismach
[08:30:32] <jthornton> it seems to cover the basics
[08:31:40] <archivist> suck that into the docs and that page could go away mebe
[10:00:43] <seb_kuzminsky> Guruwinder_: the stepconf issues we need addressed are all on the bug tracker:
[10:00:45] <seb_kuzminsky> https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/bugs/search/?q=stepconf&filter=%7B%22status%22%3A%5B%22open%22%2C%22open-fixed%22%5D%7D
[10:01:04] <seb_kuzminsky> https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/feature-requests/search/?q=stepconf&filter=%7B%22status%22%3A%5B%22open%22%2C%22open-fixed%22%5D%7D
[10:01:36] <seb_kuzminsky> and our contributor's guide is here:
http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/code/Contributing-to-LinuxCNC.html
[10:43:24] <cradek> jthornton: yes - looks like you removed the desktop links but it's still trying to package them. I think you just need to remove the files like debian/extras/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-halmanual.desktop
[10:45:52] <cradek> er wait, maybe it's because they're listed in debian/extras/linuxcnc-doc-en.files
[10:46:45] <skunkworks> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/147762
[10:48:40] <cradek> "competitors" is funny to me
[10:56:06] <JT-Shop> cradek, thanks
[11:03:10] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7_Docs 9a155f8 06linuxcnc 10debian/extras/linuxcnc-doc-en.files remove desktop packages not used * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=9a155f8
[12:17:41] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2536 of 4003.deb-lucid-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4003.deb-lucid-i386/builds/2536 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:19:37] <pcw_home> arghh, spent 1/2 day getting the BCM43142 WIFI module in the tupperware PC working
[12:19:38] <pcw_home> with preemt-RT kernel only to find out that it has disastrous effects on latency
[12:20:57] <pcw_home> not surprising I guess for proprietary code but really really terrible
[12:23:34] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2539 of 4008.deb-precise-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4008.deb-precise-amd64/builds/2539 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:23:35] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2539 of 4007.deb-precise-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4007.deb-precise-i386/builds/2539 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:26:25] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1367 of 4009.deb-precise-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4009.deb-precise-rtai-i386/builds/1367 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:35:45] <linuxcnc-build_> build #560 of 4015.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4015.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-amd64/builds/560 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:38:44] <linuxcnc-build_> build #521 of 4014.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4014.deb-wheezy-rtpreempt-i386/builds/521 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:39:23] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1106 of 4017.deb-wheezy-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4017.deb-wheezy-amd64/builds/1106 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:40:06] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2530 of 4006.deb-lucid-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4006.deb-lucid-rtai-i386/builds/2530 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:40:30] <linuxcnc-build_> build #1105 of 4016.deb-wheezy-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4016.deb-wheezy-i386/builds/1105 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:40:40] <linuxcnc-build_> build #2535 of 4004.deb-lucid-amd64 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4004.deb-lucid-amd64/builds/2535 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:43:10] <linuxcnc-build_> build #800 of 4018.deb-wheezy-rtai-i386 is complete: Failure [4failed shell_3] Build details are at
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/buildbot/builders/4018.deb-wheezy-rtai-i386/builds/800 blamelist: John Thornton <bjt128@gmail.com>
[12:52:35] <jthornton> I think this is my clue dh_movefiles: debian/tmp/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop not found (supposed to put it in linuxcnc-doc-en)
[12:52:44] <jthornton> but it seems to be there...
[12:55:00] <jthornton> I got it now
[13:24:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7_Docs ee754b5 06linuxcnc 03debian/extras/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-documentation.desktop 04debian/extras/usr/share/applications/linuxcnc-usermanual.desktop create desktop shortcut file with the correct name * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee754b5
[13:24:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.7_Docs 36c840c 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile remove unused reference to the user manual * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=36c840c
[14:25:45] <skunksleep> zlog
[15:07:32] <JT-Shop> YEA! no red tabs on buildbot, only green and orange
[15:18:00] <Tom_itx> hah
[15:50:27] <kwallace2> Has anyone here used PathPilot?
[16:53:12] <cradek> JT-Shop: yay!
[18:07:41] <jthornton> now the question is do I fix the 143 document warnings in 2.7 or 2.7_Docs?
[18:11:38] <cradek> maybe it's best to decide whether to merge 2.7_Docs before you make more changes to either side
[18:12:36] <cradek> (do you think particle board is still a good choice for the base of my little mill, now that I'm using flood coolant?)
[18:18:06] <jthornton> ok, I'll wait... and depends on how well the particle board is sealed.
[18:24:00] <pcw_home> well maybe if you used soybean oil as coolant...
[18:25:17] <pcw_home> damn crows, second time this week I had to dump out the water troughs
[18:41:31] <cradek> it's not, and I'm using tap water. I think it'll not last very long, but that's ok.
[20:07:48] <Tom_itx> cradek at least coat it with some oil based paint
[20:20:16] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/lens-silly-fixturing.jpg
[20:20:51] <cradek> super glue!
[20:21:11] <cradek> http://timeguy.com/cradek-files/emc/lens-finishing.jpg
[20:21:40] <cradek> as cut from that blank, right; edges finished, left
[20:24:05] <cradek> (Nd=1.700 glass)
[20:29:58] <cradek> these are for frames like this:
http://vintageopticalshop.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/img_0684_1.jpg
[20:30:48] <Tom_itx> do you polish the whole lens or just the edge?
[20:31:09] <cradek> just the edge, I bought the blanks with the optical surfaces already done
[20:31:39] <cradek> I have not quite yet attempted doing the optical surfaces, but I do have blanks and grit sitting on my desk...
[20:36:30] <cradek> next I have to make some tiny screws
[20:41:05] <Tom_itx> fun
[20:41:16] <Tom_itx> smaller than 2-56?
[20:41:24] <cradek> smaller than 0-80
[20:41:27] <Tom_itx> ick
[20:42:05] <cradek> yeah I was hoping 0-80 would work, but not even close
[20:42:44] <cradek> I think they're about .040 major dia
[20:44:21] <cradek> I bet archivist would have no trouble...
[20:44:41] <Tom_itx> true, he likes that sort of thing
[20:45:05] <Tom_itx> it must be a custom thread
[20:45:12] <Tom_itx> standard threads start at 0
[20:45:46] <cradek> heh I think they were standard american optical screws, ca 1910
[20:50:01] <cradek> it would be nice to find the screw spec, but I don't think that's very likely
[22:30:55] <archivist> cradek, I got one book because of the screw tables
http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=BK2267
[22:32:22] <cradek> thanks, I wonder if they did use screws from some watch manufacturer
[22:32:27] <cradek> lemme measure the OD
[22:34:36] <cradek> they are about .045-0455
[22:36:42] <Tom_itx> 5-120?
[22:38:28] <Tom_itx> are they worn down?
[22:39:10] <cradek> there are about 6 threads in .080", so 75 tpi, ish
[22:39:36] <cradek> they are pretty worn looking, but may have always been kind of lousy
[22:39:40] <archivist> heh didnt have to fetch the book, scanned two years ago
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJC/BK/BK2267/
[22:40:31] <cradek> I have a zillion watch screws, and when the diameter is close, the threads are way too fine
[22:43:23] <cradek> thanks archivist
[22:44:21] <archivist> I have other tables somewhere, been collecting docs on threads
[22:45:41] <cradek> I knew if anyone knew, it'd be you
[22:46:29] <cradek> this is 'american optical company' and my wild-ass guess is 1905-1915
[22:46:45] <archivist> but if something dates back to the thread plate days, all bets are off, just measure, all thread plates were individual
[22:46:49] <cradek> they may have used the same screws forever - the rimless mounts were popular into the 40s or more
[22:47:41] <cradek> no this is totally factory exchangeable parts era, I've seen boxes of screws from AO that optometrists would stock
[22:50:02] <cradek> guess they're not UNM (which I had never heard of until now)
[22:54:38] <archivist> my folder of screw info is awol at the moment, usually if lives in sight in this room
[22:55:16] <cradek> no match in machinery's handbook
[22:55:49] <cradek> it's fine, this is just a geektrap, I can measure and match them just fine
[22:56:18] <cradek> thread engagement is only 2-3 threads. it only has to be sort of close.
[22:56:41] <cradek> I know the answer that there's not likely anything I can order online that would match
[23:07:41] <archivist> other odd screw series names, progress, thury, lowenherz swiss horoligical (NHS)
[23:17:15] <archivist> the folder was hiding in full site but backwards, no AO in it though
