#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2014-09-23

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[01:47:38] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: i get the same thing (jessie, amd64, stock debian kernel)
[02:03:39] <seb_kuzminsky> and by "same thing" i mean "TCL error in asynchronous code" when i hit F1 F2 in axis
[07:04:39] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: recently updated? can you dpaste your apt-cache policy python2.7 tk8.6 ?
[07:18:07] <jepler> .. the problem goes away when downgrading tcl8.6 / libtcl8.6 / tcl8.6-dev to version 8.6.1-6 from version 8.6.2+dfsg-1
[07:30:22] <jepler> the diff between those packages is 50k lines, no way I'll find the relevant change in there :-/
[07:35:54] <skunkworks> yeck
[07:42:33] <skunkworks> I thought tcl was dead... ;)
[07:52:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 052.6 a5309ad 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/config/stepconf.txt Docs: change suggested values so they cover most of the drives listed on the wiki * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=a5309ad
[09:12:02] <seb_kuzminsky> jepler: http://paste.debian.net/122598/
[09:15:18] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop, jthornton: does your commit address Joe Hildreth's email?
[09:20:26] <jepler> seb_kuzminsky: thanks
[09:23:50] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks for looking at it
[09:23:56] <seb_kuzminsky> youre way more tclish than me
[09:24:08] <jepler> so what you're saying is .. better me than you?
[09:24:24] <seb_kuzminsky> did i say that? i thought that
[09:33:39] <seb_kuzminsky> bummer, nopaste doesn't know how to paste pictures
[09:34:04] <jepler> yeah I tried the same thing
[12:38:12] <kwallace> I wonder if it would have been better to design the BeagleBone or Raspberry Pi in PC/104 or PCI104 format?
[12:50:25] <micges-dev> skunkworks__: scurve acc spikes located and mostly eliminated!
[12:57:54] <CaptHindsight> kwallace: it's the mix of headers and connectors in odd places that get me, either all headers or connectors only on 1-2 sides
[13:34:06] <jepler> CaptHindsight: they all have a fetish for small board sizes, I think
[13:34:15] <jepler> whether that's cost-driven or bullet-point-driven I don't know
[13:35:20] <CaptHindsight> they always seem to make them really clumsy to integrate into a finished product
[13:36:05] <seb_kuzminsky> just leave it dangling by the wires like i do
[13:36:15] <CaptHindsight> that might be the deal they have to make with the silicon vendor so it doesn't compete with products from OEM's
[13:37:20] <CaptHindsight> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2003668803/5axismaker-first-ever-affordable-5axis-multi-fabri looks like they wrote their own 5axis CAM
[13:38:02] <CaptHindsight> and again have avoided Linuxcnc as the controller
[13:38:13] <CaptHindsight> even though it's $7500
[13:54:47] <skunkworks_> and a rc motor spindle
[15:22:28] <JT-Shop> seb_kuzminsky, I think so
[15:24:36] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: ool
[15:24:38] <seb_kuzminsky> cool
[19:50:43] <CaptHindsight> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc5NTA Debian Switches Back To GNOME As Its Default Desktop
[21:42:26] <jepler> I wonder whether to merge jepler/proposed-master to master
[21:43:05] <jepler> it mostly consists of providing rtapi_prefixed versions of the kernel byte-swapping macros (e.g., cpu_to_le32) which might be useful in writing hardware drivers where a particular endianness is required
[21:43:41] <jepler> but of course all the drivers designed for PCs are designed for little-endian, which is what i386, amd64, and armhf all are
[21:43:53] <jepler> so in practice there's no need to even be hygenic and use such macros
[21:44:51] <jepler> and they're so trivial to provide, we can just add them then
[21:44:59] <jepler> on the other hand, the difficulty of providing them is low
[21:45:21] <jepler> .. and on the other, other hand, it turns out the <asm/byteorder.h> header is portable to kernelspace and uspace anyway, so no need to provide a wrapper
[21:45:43] <jepler> thanks for listening to me talk to myself
[21:46:08] <cradek> anytime
[21:54:28] <pcw_home> interestingly the IEEE754 FP standard doesn't specify endianess
[22:13:27] <skunkworks_> cradek: I installed from the hybrid image with the good video card. went smooth and updated perfectly. latency is around 16us
[22:23:44] <seb_kuzminsky> skunkworks_: neat, something worked like it's supposed to :-)
[22:26:01] <seb_kuzminsky> he struck me as a bit frail and insecure, so i'm not surprised he's worried about conflict if he came alone to our meeting
[22:26:19] <seb_kuzminsky> argh, wrong windo