#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2014-06-12

[07:11:44] <jthornton> skunkworks, is the message about the new TP in master close enough to add to the manual verbatim?
[07:15:00] <skunkworks> jthornton, I am ok with that..
[07:15:21] <skunkworks> It is a pretty good explaination - maybe a bit wordy... :)
[07:15:37] <jthornton> looks good to me
[07:15:37] <skunkworks> it was just copied and pasted from a few of robs posts..
[07:15:46] <skunkworks> it is for sure a good start
[07:20:06] <skunkworks> jthornton, thanks for doing that
[08:46:44] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03John Thornton 05master 28bcc7f 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/common/User_Concepts.txt 10docs/src/config/ini_config.txt Docs: add info on trajectory planner ini options * 14http://git.linuxcnc.org/?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commitdiff;h=28bcc7f
[08:50:26] <skunkworks> Yay
[09:45:50] <seb_kuzminsky> haha awesome!
[09:46:00] <seb_kuzminsky> thanks jthornton !
[09:52:40] <seb_kuzminsky> hi KimK
[11:07:06] <cradek> seb_kuzminsky: my spidey senses are tingling
[11:11:52] <seb_kuzminsky> why do you think that is?
[11:12:40] <seb_kuzminsky> as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced?
[11:12:50] <cradek> uh, no
[11:13:41] <seb_kuzminsky> as if millions of cnc machines suddenly reach their programmed feed rates?
[11:13:53] <cradek> haha
[11:14:00] <seb_kuzminsky> :-)
[11:14:01] <cradek> thanks for the 2.6 prerelease, yay
[11:14:06] <seb_kuzminsky> oh, that
[11:14:11] <seb_kuzminsky> heh yeah
[11:14:13] <cradek> I'm building it now (wheezy machine)
[11:14:17] <cradek> surely it's about time!
[11:14:32] <Tom_itx> does 2.6 pre have rob's TP in it?
[11:14:42] <cradek> no
[11:14:45] <Tom_itx> aww
[11:14:56] <cradek> 2.6 is a stable release suitable for production machines
[11:15:10] <cradek> about 5 people have tested rob's TP on about 3 machines
[11:15:15] <cradek> these are not compatible
[11:15:30] <seb_kuzminsky> ^^^ this man speaks the truth
[11:15:36] <Tom_itx> yeah yeah
[11:15:40] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[11:15:46] * Tom_itx just wishes
[11:15:59] <seb_kuzminsky> it's in the master branch (aka 2.7~pre)
[11:16:00] <cradek> stop wishing and test master!
[11:16:31] <cradek> you doing that will help us be ready for 2.7 sooner
[11:19:52] <Tom_itx> is it still a git download or is in in the master branch(devel) of buildbot.linuxcnc.org?
[11:20:23] <Tom_itx> i've had problems getting that pc connected to the network
[11:20:33] <Tom_itx> i can't figure out what's going on with it
[11:20:40] <cradek> you can do it either way
[11:20:45] <Tom_itx> it just up and quit one day
[11:20:50] <Tom_itx> it's not the hardware
[11:21:10] <Tom_itx> tried running from the CD too
[11:21:28] <Tom_itx> as well as a backed up SSD
[11:21:52] <cradek> sure smells like hardware
[11:22:11] <Tom_itx> i know but i put in a 10/100 card as well and it did the same thing
[11:22:17] <Tom_itx> pulled from working machine
[11:22:33] <mozmck> try a new cable?
[11:22:37] <Tom_itx> just comes back 'network unavailable'
[11:22:39] <Tom_itx> yup
[11:22:42] <Tom_itx> of course :)
[11:22:47] <mozmck> :)
[11:22:52] <cradek> changing the network card often means you have to fix up a file in /etc/udev/rules.d
[11:23:04] <cradek> by fix up I mean remove lines from, or remove
[11:23:27] <Tom_itx> well let's have a look then
[11:23:30] * Tom_itx fires it up
[11:23:34] <cradek> it saves the mac address in that file, for persistence you sometimes don't really want
[11:24:18] <Tom_itx> i need a break anyway, been running cat5 & video cables all over
[11:24:54] <mozmck> interesting - I didn't know that. 90-persistent-net.rules
[11:27:44] <Tom_itx> 70-persistent-net.rules is probably the one
[11:27:55] <cradek> yeah, if you change an interface and want the new one to still be eth0 (or whatever) you have to nuke the entry for the old one
[11:28:22] <Tom_itx> should i just delete them?
[11:28:27] <Tom_itx> then reboot
[11:28:30] <cradek> this is fallout from pluggable usb network devices and other bs like that
[11:28:48] <cradek> yeah, try that
[11:29:09] <Tom_itx> oh crap i gotta grow roots
[11:29:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i did not expect Tom_itx to say that
[11:29:40] <mozmck> It is nice to have the network cards stay the same name after reboot.
[11:30:16] <mozmck> I remember having problems getting the card I wanted to be eth0 to stay that way years ago.
[11:31:18] <Tom_itx> there were 3 entries. eth0-2
[11:31:29] <Tom_itx> not sure where 2 came from
[11:31:34] <Tom_itx> lo?
[11:33:37] <Tom_itx> gawd i need a new pc
[11:34:20] <Tom_itx> pretty sad when your D525 is your best one
[11:34:59] <Tom_itx> still fails to connect
[11:36:26] <Tom_itx> it did add a new entry to the .rules file
[11:36:33] <Tom_itx> same as the previous eth0 one
[11:37:06] <skunkworks> you sure your router isn't doing something funny?
[11:37:13] <Tom_itx> using the r8169 kernel driver
[11:37:23] <Tom_itx> well it's even a different router now
[11:37:33] <skunkworks> oh - is this realtime?
[11:37:33] <Tom_itx> now that you mention it
[11:37:39] <Tom_itx> yes
[11:37:48] <Tom_itx> it's the 10-04 from the cd
[11:38:18] <skunkworks> was there an issue with that card and rtai? I don't remember now
[11:38:53] <Tom_itx> it was working fine for quite some time
[11:39:02] <skunkworks> do you have a non realtime live cd you could boot off of?
[11:39:10] <skunkworks> worth an experiment
[11:39:17] <Tom_itx> maybe stuffed away somewhere
[11:39:22] <skunkworks> heh
[11:40:10] <skunkworks> I have a ton laying around.. (use them to check smart data and mem checks on windows pc...)
[11:40:54] <Tom_itx> i've got a debian 6.0.4 one but i don't think it's a live cd
[11:45:11] <pcw_home> I think the live CD worked ok with the 8168/8111 on the D525
[11:45:32] <pcw_home> 10.04 anyway.
[11:46:07] <Tom_itx> i may have an 8.xx rtai live cd stuffed away somewhere
[11:46:37] <Tom_itx> moving stuff around, now i can't find anything
[11:47:26] <cradek> how can every emc-users thread end up talking about guns or politics? it's uncanny.
[11:49:30] <archivist> seems to be the hobby over there
[11:49:50] <Tom_itx> i stay off forums
[11:49:53] <cradek> it's revolting
[11:53:57] <archivist> yup, I had somebody PM me about writing him some gun part gcode for little par and wanted me to spam forums, I escaped, as a brit I dont do guns
[12:09:56] <pcw_home> Damn, left the vacuum cleaner in the rabbit enclosure of a unguarded moment and Daisy chewed through it (again)
[12:10:47] <archivist> is tasty
[12:11:45] <pcw_home> must be 1/2 roll of black tape on the cord
[12:20:59] <skunkworks> The cord? I thought the tube.. tingly
[12:21:33] <malcom2073> fried rabbit for dinner?
[12:24:59] <pcw_home> no rabbit damage just cord (years ago we did have a rabbit that had black teeth for a while after a cord mishap)
[12:26:21] <archivist> I am reminded of the bugs bunny toon where he sings killed a wabbit
[12:35:36] <skunkworks> sure is impressive what andy can do in his little shop
[12:37:40] <cradek> what is that thing?
[12:38:08] <skunkworks> no clue looks liek some sort of ball joint
[12:38:28] <skunkworks> (I tried to find a ner-a-car explotion drawing..)
[12:39:03] <archivist> url?
[12:40:42] <skunkworks> archivist, https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5988166686519072513/6022644949143086242?pid=6022644949143086242&oid=108164504656404380542
[12:41:21] <skunkworks> we made the exact style jaw covers for our big vixe
[12:41:24] <skunkworks> vice
[12:41:25] <skunkworks> :)
[12:41:32] <cradek> a part like that is not shown in http://www.geutskens.eu/neracar/300-wheels_assy.htm
[12:41:50] <archivist> andy being not consistent where he posts stuff, some being on bodgesoc :)
[12:42:56] <skunkworks> have to wait for andy
[12:45:06] <archivist> hmm that drawing does not exactly match
[12:47:04] <cradek> yeah I assumed I'd find a match in there...
[12:48:06] <archivist> it could be a version miss match and the ball and cup being reversed on the other version
[12:48:35] <archivist> other being a replaceable design
[12:49:11] <skunkworks> http://bodgesoc.blogspot.com/
[12:50:10] <archivist> he also has www.bodgesoc.org
[12:50:45] <cradek> > Yes, it is actually exactly what it looks like. But not for a real one.
[12:50:55] <skunkworks> I don't know what that means
[12:51:15] <skunkworks> he is talking in riddles.
[12:52:22] <cradek> it kind of looks like a rifle bolt
[12:53:14] <cradek> (which in the UK might explain the riddles)
[12:53:26] <skunkworks> well - then he put it in the wrong pictures... damn him
[12:53:31] <skunkworks> ;)
[12:56:02] <skunkworks> it was posted in a gun related threat I guess...
[12:56:46] <cradek> heh, thread
[12:56:52] <skunkworks> heh - right
[12:56:58] <skunkworks> no slip there..
[12:57:38] <cradek> nope
[13:01:59] <seb_kuzminsky> looking at the pics that precede it, it looks like it was hand-forged from round bar stock - so probably not a bolt
[13:06:51] <jthornton> now all we need is a simple way to home a servo driven gantry
[13:07:16] <cradek> smop!
[13:07:41] <jthornton> does not compute
[13:07:49] <seb_kuzminsky> small matter of programming
[13:08:09] <skunkworks> simple
[13:08:13] <jthornton> ah ok that makes sense now
[13:16:16] <skunkworks> we actually need (in no particular order) circular arc blending for abcuvw, JWP that is sane, gantry homing soluition, JA4 merged to master, hmmm - seem like there is more..
[13:16:50] <archivist> an army of testers and
[13:16:51] <cradek> three full-time developers
[13:17:02] <cradek> and seven clones of skunkworks
[13:17:09] <skunkworks> oh - and parts of ubc...
[13:17:17] <archivist> and Uncle Tom Cobbley
[13:17:21] <cradek> yeah, the new-rtos stuff
[13:19:59] <skunkworks> then we are done! ;)
[13:21:08] <archivist> I bet there will be a new wish list by then
[13:21:14] <skunkworks> hush!
[13:21:34] <archivist> or I should say, rinse repeat
[13:28:19] <cradek> LINUXCNC - 2.6.0~pre4
[13:28:20] <cradek> yay
[13:28:39] <skunkworks> I thought we already knew that?
[13:28:52] <skunkworks> or did the build bot finish?
[13:32:40] <cradek> I built and installed a deb on my rtai/wheezy machine
[13:32:49] <cradek> and it runs
[13:40:01] <skunkworks> Yay@
[13:40:06] <skunkworks> yay!
[13:41:10] <skunkworks> did you get a chance to work on the wheezy livecd yet?
[13:41:44] <cradek> yes, progress is happening
[13:41:53] <skunkworks> yay^2
[13:45:27] <skunkworks> if you need any testing...
[13:45:35] <skunkworks> you saw all the hardware here...
[21:07:08] <skunkworks_> it is weird not switching to other branches...
[21:07:16] <skunkworks_> doesn't feel right
[21:10:51] <CaptHindsight> does Wheezy have touchscreen and screen keyboard support? Can it work with a 3.4.55 RTAI kernel?
[21:15:04] <skunkworks_> I think wheezy works with rtai.. don't know about the touchscreen/keyboard support
[21:56:19] <CaptHindsight> I'd need a newer kernel for the video drivers to work
[22:59:50] <seb_kuzminsky> CaptHindsight: cradek is running wheezy with the 3.4.55-rtai kernel and he says it's working fine
[23:04:46] <CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: thanks, I missed the 3.4.55 part :)