#linuxcnc-devel | Logs for 2013-10-11

[01:08:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Kim 05joints_axes3 3612017 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/hal/ 10halui_examples.txt 10halui_examples_de.txt 10halui_examples_es.txt 10halui_examples_pl.txt * Docs: Fix a typo left over from rebranding
[01:08:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03Kim 05joints_axes3 de7f668 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile * Docs: Fix typo left over from rebranding
[01:08:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03elson 05joints_axes3 0f35a67 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/drivers/pico_ppmc.txt * keep 2.5 in synch with master docs
[01:08:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03nieson 05joints_axes3 4bab564 06linuxcnc 10configs/ 10(12 files in 4 dirs) * gmoccapy - ver. 0.9.5 - offset page and new keyboard
[01:08:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 6a19af0 06linuxcnc 10tests/ 10(9 files in 9 dirs) * tests: increase task/motion timeout
[01:08:24] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 59572ae 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile * Merge branch 'v2.5_branch'
[01:08:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 1464026 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -add code for a calculator dialog
[01:08:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 f871487 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/offsetpage.glade * gladevcp -offsetpage_widget -fix B axis column not being editable
[01:08:44] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 565faa0 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -define some variables earlier so no error in Gmoccapy
[01:08:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 e7b5197 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/gscreen_custom/industrial.glade * gscreen config -change the layout of industrial
[01:08:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 669adc8 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/offsetpage_widget.py * gladevcp -fix offsetpage widget out of index error
[01:09:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 5a94d60 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/gscreen_custom/industrial.glade * gscreen config -fix axes buttons on industrial
[01:09:12] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05joints_axes3 052de4f 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/motion.9 * these are two different things - make sure it's clear
[01:09:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 6ec4c49 06linuxcnc 10configs/sim/gscreen_custom/industrial.glade 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -add jog mode LED indicator
[01:09:26] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 6af8a34 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.py * pncconf -add debugging code
[01:09:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03nieson 05joints_axes3 864f7ef 06linuxcnc 10configs/ 10sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy.glade 10sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_handler.py 10sim/gmoccapy/release_notes.txt * gmoccapy - bugfix in restart dialog and spindle switching with logging on
[01:09:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 2671b21 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -fix run-at-line dialog bugs
[01:09:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05joints_axes3 ce9835a 06linuxcnc 10VERSION 10debian/changelog * Release 2.5.3
[01:09:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 b028429 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/ 10gladevcp/offsetpage.glade 10gladevcp/offsetpage_widget.py * gladevcp -add ability to edit rotational offset -offsetpage_widget
[01:10:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 9972d70 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/offsetpage_widget.py * gladevcp -make offsetpage_widget select with single click
[01:10:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03nieson 05joints_axes3 83505bb 06linuxcnc 10configs/ 10(19 files in 4 dirs) * gmoccapy-0.9.6 - 4-th axis is included
[01:10:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 94d3bab 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/tooledit_widget.py * gladevcp -make tooledit_widget use single click selection.
[01:10:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 933f465 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/hal/rtcomps.txt * docs: fix some typos in rtcomps.txt
[01:10:27] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 7fcda0f 06linuxcnc 10debian/control.in * make all docs packages Provide linuxcnc-doc
[01:10:34] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 50d382a 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile * docs: split out doc source files by language
[01:10:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 d05dbea 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/Submakefile * docs: split out pdf targets by language
[01:10:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 3eb2112 06linuxcnc 10debian/ 10configure 10control.in 04linuxcnc-doc-de.files.in * deb: dont build german docs package
[01:10:54] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 868d1ab 06linuxcnc 10docs/ 10(92 files in 13 dirs) * docs: remove german docs
[01:10:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 819b1f7 06linuxcnc 10docs/ 10src/Master_HAL_es.txt 10src/index.tmpl 10src/index_es.tmpl * docs: remove some stray references to polish docs
[01:11:07] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 c1f3edc 06linuxcnc 10docs/ 10src/index.tmpl 10src/index_es.tmpl * docs: remove an old comment
[01:11:13] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 b2c4913 06linuxcnc 10debian/ 10configure 10control.in 04linuxcnc-doc-pl.files.in * deb: dont build polish docs package
[01:11:20] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 54e44a0 06linuxcnc 10docs/ 10(89 files in 13 dirs) * docs: remove polish docs
[01:11:26] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 442c26e 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/gscreen/gscreen.py * gscreen -fix focus problem with independant onboard keyboard
[01:11:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 b64082b 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/ 10gladevcp/offsetpage_widget.py 10gladevcp/tooledit_widget.py * gladevcp -fix error message when clicking unfilled area
[01:11:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jthornton 05joints_axes3 0ad42cb 06linuxcnc 10docs/ 10src/gui/axis.txt 10src/lathe/lathe-user.txt * Docs: add more links and info about tool change
[01:11:47] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andy 05joints_axes3 5a82cec 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/pcl720.comp
[01:11:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> Use the correct type of "not" operator when creating the complementary output pin.
[01:11:59] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 9c8f24c 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/motion.9 * docs: fix a typo in the motion manpage
[01:12:06] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 fe7cfe2 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/code/Style_Guide.txt * docs: fix code style examples
[01:12:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 46d8ef5 06linuxcnc 10docs/ 10man/man9/motion.9 10src/gui/axis.txt * Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/v2.5_branch'
[01:12:19] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 2c5fe74 06linuxcnc 10debian/configure * deb: don't build-depend on texlive's german and polish localizations
[01:12:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 5645d04 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/gcode/m-code.txt * docs: fix handling of the old tool in the M6 description
[01:12:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 dea503a 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/gcode/m-code.txt * docs: remove incorrect T-word info in M6 description
[01:12:38] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 b2edb8a 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/gcode/overview.txt * docs: clarify numbered parameters
[01:12:45] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 f0294e5 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/emccanon.cc * canon: fix some comments
[01:12:50] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 5f7693a 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/emccanon.cc * canon: rename a CHANGE_TOOL_NUMBER() argument for clarity
[01:12:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 5b6fe02 06linuxcnc 10tests/toolchanger/ 03simpockets.tbl.orig 10toolno-pocket-differ/shared-test.sh 04toolno-pocket-differ/simpockets.tbl.orig * tests: move toolchanger-test's tool-table file
[01:13:05] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 00b6ff4 06linuxcnc 10tests/toolchanger/ 10(7 files) * test: add a test of M61
[01:13:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 855415e 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/iotask/ioControl.cc * io: fix a tool number/pocket number bug in EMC_TOOL_SET_NUMBER (M61)
[01:13:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 90f8598 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/iotask/ioControl.cc * io: better debug message
[01:13:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 f146fd9 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/iotask/ioControl.cc * io: update the spindle "pocket" on M61
[01:13:30] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 92e9cf3 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_convert.cc * interp: fix M61
[01:13:37] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 0653ab9 06linuxcnc 10docs/src/gcode/m-code.txt 10src/emc/iotask/ioControl.cc 10src/emc/task/emccanon.cc * Merge branch 'v2.5_branch'
[01:13:44] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 9868fcf 06linuxcnc 10tests/toolchanger/m61/test-ui.py * m61 test: don't throw exceptions in LinuxcncControl.g()
[01:13:51] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 6ff9451 06linuxcnc 10tests/toolchanger/m61/test-ui.py * m61 test: fix some spurious failures
[01:13:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 842f8e0 06linuxcnc * Merge remote-tracking branch 'origin/v2.5_branch'
[01:14:03] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 de9e642 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/hm2_7i43.9 * docs: describe args for multiple hm2_7i43 cards
[01:14:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 93b9f90 06linuxcnc 10tests/toolchanger/m61/test-ui.py * m61 test: remove dead code
[01:14:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 e17bb79 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile * build probe-parport on all kernels
[01:14:21] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 12ba77d 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_pci.c * hm2: ensure in-order, 32-bit aligned pci transfers
[01:14:28] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03seb 05joints_axes3 dbf362f 06linuxcnc 10src/Makefile * Merge remote branch 'origin/v2.5_branch'
[01:14:35] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05joints_axes3 cab03d7 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/ 10utils/scope_disp.c 10utils/scope_vert.c * Halscope: show the first derivative
[01:14:41] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03nieson 05joints_axes3 46149ff 06linuxcnc 10configs/ 10sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_handler.py 10sim/gmoccapy/gmoccapy_postgui.hal 10sim/gmoccapy/release_notes.txt * gmoccapy - solved G43 bug
[01:14:49] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 89100dc 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/hal_glib.py * hal_glib -add reload-display signal
[01:14:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 84ef411 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/hal_gremlin.py * gladevcp -have HAL_gremlin respond to reload-display signal
[01:15:02] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 8218ab3 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/offsetpage_widget.py * gladevcp -have offsetpage widget ask the screen to reload
[01:15:09] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 7d1eb00 06linuxcnc 10lib/python/gladevcp/led.py * gladevcp -adjust the requested height of the oval LED
[01:15:16] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chrisinnanaimo 05joints_axes3 f6f3643 06linuxcnc 10(7 files in 2 dirs) * gscreen -add angular jogging rates, dialog spindle controls
[01:15:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03andy 05joints_axes3 a9fb0a0 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/ 10hostmot2.h 10resolver.c
[01:15:26] <KGB-linuxcnc> Fix a Hostmot2 Resolver bug in 64 bit builds.
[01:15:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> Do not assume that "long" is 32 bits in all systems. this bug resulted in the
[01:15:33] <KGB-linuxcnc> resolver module being utterly unusable, with the apparent resolver angle varying
[01:15:34] <KGB-linuxcnc> randomly by thousands of turns
[01:15:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> Signed-off-by: Andy Pugh <andy@bodgesoc.org>
[01:15:55] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05joints_axes3 e627a38 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/touchy/mdi.py * Touchy: MDI support for M61
[01:16:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03chris 05joints_axes3 316ddab 06linuxcnc 10src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/ 10hostmot2.h 10resolver.c * Merge branch 'v2.5_branch'
[01:16:08] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03jthornton 05joints_axes3 08597ae 06linuxcnc 10docs/ 10(72 files in 12 dirs)
[01:16:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> Docs: add note to untranslated Spanish chapters
[01:16:14] <KGB-linuxcnc> add info for translators on how to get the latest version
[01:16:17] <KGB-linuxcnc> of that chapter before starting a translation.
[01:16:19] <KGB-linuxcnc> Signed-off-by: John Thornton <jthornton@gnipsel.com>
[04:22:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 49d4cb4 06linuxcnc 03src/emc/motion/pause.h * motion/pause.h: pause state machine - states
[04:22:12] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 6c170b9 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/motion.h * motionn.h: emcmot_status_t members to support jog-while-paused
[04:22:15] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 00fb864 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/mot_priv.h * mot_priv.h: queue references, HAL support pins
[04:22:22] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 388a82c 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/motion_debug.h * motion_debug.h: the alternate queue - tp instance data + queue space
[04:22:29] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 78345ea 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/emcmotcfg.h * emcmotcfg.h: size the alternate queue
[04:22:36] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 c381160 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/kinematics/ 10tp.c 10tp.h * kinematics/tp: add tpIsPaused(), tpSnapshot() methods
[04:22:43] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 f1c7c02 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/command.c * motion/command.c: fix inRange() and check_axis_constraint()
[04:22:50] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 3cfd6bc 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/command.c * motion/command.c: jog-while-pause support, queue switching
[04:22:57] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 5367ef5 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/control.c * motion/control.c: pause FSM support
[04:23:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 0a07ae9 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/motion/motion.c * motion/motion.c: tp queues, HAL pin initialization
[04:23:11] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 c00f40c 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/ 10nml_intf/emc.cc 10nml_intf/emc_nml.hh * jog-while-paused: NML support
[04:23:18] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 c16f16b 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/taskintf.cc * emc/task/taskintf.cc - convey pause fsm, jwp-enable states
[04:23:25] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 d448f2a 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/task/emctaskmain.cc * task: in auto mode, pass EMC_JOG_* commands if jwp enable pin set
[04:23:32] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 dfc9444 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/extensions/emcmodule.cc * python/linuxcnc module: expose pause FSM states, jwp enable state, enums
[04:23:40] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 7e7948f 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/ 10(5 files) * jog-while-paused: Python examples
[04:23:46] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 2c01fca 06linuxcnc 10docs/man/man9/motion.9 * man/motion.9: document pin, jog-while-paused behavior
[04:23:53] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 1b3385b 06linuxcnc 10configs/ 03sim/axis/enable-jwp.hal 03sim/axis/ja3-jog-while-paused-rdelta.ini * configs/sim: jog-while-paused demo config - joints_axes3 assumed
[04:24:01] <KGB-linuxcnc> 03git 05keyboard-jog-while-pause-joints-axes3 3318741 06linuxcnc 10src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py
[04:24:04] <KGB-linuxcnc> ui/axis.py: brutally patch into submission to pass jog commands during auto/paused
[14:28:37] <andypugh> pcw_home: It sounds to me like prescale shouldn't be a pin, it should be calculated by the driver, on the basis of the requested frequency?
[15:50:28] <seb_kuzminsky> probotix: hi, are you len shelton?
[17:05:45] <CaptHindsight> seb_kuzminsky: interesting comment on the ML about making a unified EPP driver
[17:07:43] <andypugh> I think he was using the "Royal We" meaning, "not me" :)
[17:08:02] <andypugh> But I could be wrong.
[17:08:11] <CaptHindsight> it's a good idea
[17:08:17] <andypugh> I think he has enough on his plate with 2.6
[17:09:00] <CaptHindsight> maybe something to cover a generic parallel interface to Linuxcnc
[17:09:09] <andypugh> It is one of many good ideas. But there are always more ideas than developers.
[17:09:46] <CaptHindsight> new SOC's like the BBB have generic IO that may be used like a EPP port
[17:10:25] <andypugh> (And, frankly, it might be much easier to set up a fast serial link on just 2 of the pins of both the BBB and the 7i43. Those 7i43 pins are just GPIO to the FPGA anyway.
[17:11:11] <CaptHindsight> pcw looked at the SPI on the BBB
[17:11:33] <CaptHindsight> IIRC the BBB SPI is only 50MHz
[17:12:09] <CaptHindsight> some of the other interesting ARM soc's have SPI up to 100MHz
[17:13:23] <CaptHindsight> his comment just got me thinking of what to do a bit down the road, not that he should do the work
[17:14:05] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[17:14:11] <seb_kuzminsky> where's my army of grad students?
[17:14:29] <CaptHindsight> do you speak Mandarin?
[17:14:33] <andypugh> Didn't CaptHindsight Have an army of devs at his beck and call?
[17:14:47] <jepler> 50MHz SPI ought to be fine where EPP is; EPP tops out somewhere south of 3MB/s (24Mbit/s), doesn't it?
[17:15:00] <seb_kuzminsky> i need to teach *my* kids to code so i can start assigning them bugs
[17:15:30] <seb_kuzminsky> i agree that spi is probably better than epp now in the 21st century
[17:15:44] <seb_kuzminsky> i've never seen epp go faster than 1 MB/s, but maybe i have crufty hardware
[17:16:27] <CaptHindsight> response time over SPI might be an issue with some controllers
[17:16:42] <andypugh> PCW has a bunch of serial drivers (SPI, SSI, UART...) all it would take is putting one on the input side.
[17:16:52] <CaptHindsight> we'll find out soon enough
[17:17:30] <andypugh> 7i90HD is _already_ EPP or SPI
[17:17:54] <andypugh> Why would you bother with EPP if you have onboard SPI on your BBB?
[17:18:15] <CaptHindsight> he has a proto FPGA over SPI to the Allwinner A20 (dual arm cortex a9)
[17:18:49] <andypugh> CaptHindsight: This would be a dedicated link, and it is hard to imagine it being _more_ random than EPP
[17:20:29] <CaptHindsight> just thinking out loud for now, trying to get to this later this fall
[17:20:53] <seb_kuzminsky> andypugh: and yes, i'm far enough behind in my 2.6 duties that i'm not volunteering for any more work right now ;-)
[17:21:41] <andypugh> Have you seen Probamo's splash screens?
[17:22:04] <andypugh> ('cos users seem to care most about bling)
[17:22:44] <andypugh> I think he over-uses his own personal logo on them, but he does seem to be volunteering.
[17:22:52] <CaptHindsight> right now I'm playing with the 3x20's, going to see how many will work out well in one motherboard
[17:23:11] <andypugh> That's PICIe?
[17:23:23] <CaptHindsight> yeah
[17:23:33] <andypugh> Can you bridge Mini-PCIe to cabled PCI-e?
[17:23:35] <CaptHindsight> I need lots of IO
[17:23:52] <CaptHindsight> yes
[17:24:38] <andypugh> Someone on the forum wanted to use an Intel NUC (I can see the attraction) but all it has are internal Mini-PCIe, or possibly ethernet)
[17:25:05] <CaptHindsight> wish they had some DDR on board
[17:26:03] <seb_kuzminsky> i saw the splash screens on the forum that you pointed me at the other day
[17:26:19] <CaptHindsight> using GB nics and 7i80-ish boards might be ok as well
[17:26:20] <andypugh> You don't have to say what you think :-)
[17:26:37] <seb_kuzminsky> i'm glad to have someone step up and do that, but i personally found them a bit busy-looking - i'd much prefer a simple clean look
[17:26:47] <seb_kuzminsky> but that's just me, and what do i know about style?
[17:29:49] <andypugh> I rather feel that if you said "I find them a bit busy-looking, but the next release will need a new splash-screen" then he would beaver away on command :-)
[17:30:36] <andypugh> I actually rather like the current one. It's pleasantly under-stated but attractive
[17:31:02] <seb_kuzminsky> it's simple and not busy-looking, and clearly conveys what's making the splash :-)
[17:32:01] <andypugh> Interesting that Apple have gone away from skeuomorphic 3D to flat colours in the latest IOs.
[17:34:31] <andypugh> I guess that there is a generation coming up that don't actually _recognise_ knobs and buttons.
[17:35:36] <seb_kuzminsky> the current splash image (http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=linuxcnc.gif;h=79d9460884be65eb26e118131b54a9bd66a9157c;hb=d87f08b76ef497f9042030e7b8a5784d9e1ce18d) has the advantage that it matches the image we use all over
[17:35:42] <seb_kuzminsky> in the docs, on the website, etc
[17:35:58] <seb_kuzminsky> if we're going to change one of them, we should probably change them all
[17:37:23] <andypugh> I would like a version of that holding a lathe tool :-)
[17:37:44] <seb_kuzminsky> and a glue gun in the third hand :-)
[17:38:08] <andypugh> And a genetic sequencer in the 4th?
[17:38:40] <seb_kuzminsky> i must be missing something
[17:39:21] <andypugh> I can see LinuxCNC being ideal for controlling lab equipment.
[17:39:40] <seb_kuzminsky> oh! yeah
[17:39:52] <andypugh> (which would be handy for building many-armed penguins)
[17:41:47] <CaptHindsight> http://imagebin.org/273427 found this
[17:43:26] <CaptHindsight> lab equipment and even some process controls
[17:44:19] <CaptHindsight> on the other hand then it gets to far from controlling cutting tools and the UI's might have little in common
[17:44:29] <seb_kuzminsky> CaptHindsight: that should be our new splash screen
[17:44:32] <andypugh> Reminds me of; https://union.ic.ac.uk/rcc/rcsmotor/wp-content/uploads/manual-cover.png
[17:45:27] <andypugh> Eeeh! them were the days. I drew that with a pen, from memory.
[17:46:04] <andypugh> Which is why it is a bit wonky and some bits don't fit :-)
[17:46:17] <CaptHindsight> does that have the engine that was out of balance by several pounds?
[17:46:25] <andypugh> That's the one
[21:38:30] <cradek> I agree with seb_kuzminsky about "busy"; I like some of the ideas like the better-rendered tools, but I wish he wasn't the goofy-googly-eyed penguin, and I don't think the fonts should be so loud and attention-grabbing. I'd prefer to see LinuxCNC done as one word, in a font that doesn't say "look at me I'm fancy"