#hazzy Logs
Jan 28 2020
#hazzy Calendar
03:45 AM Not-c468: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03installer [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JvYvm
03:45 AM Not-c468: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 03e3003c5 - fix installer versioning
05:18 AM hazzy-m: morning
05:53 AM dremeier[m]: good morning Kurt 👐
05:54 AM hazzy-m: dremeier: hey!
05:55 AM hazzy-m: I'm going to try and finish the HallLedButton for you this evening
05:56 AM * dremeier[m] uploaded an image: Fault.png (32KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/YLrVsBKmzCDUknbeCvnTsFZd >
05:56 AM dremeier[m]: Do you thing it will make sense to change to a red 'STATUS' btn if a Natification appears?
05:56 AM hazzy-m: Yes!
05:56 AM dremeier[m]: Wow that would be great withe HALledButton👌
05:57 AM hazzy-m: It’s not so easy to do though
05:57 AM hazzy-m: I have a TabWidget branch were I worked on that
05:57 AM dremeier[m]: ok. I was thinking how I can do that but have no Idear 🙂
05:59 AM dremeier[m]: ok. I was thinking how I can do that but have no idea 🙂
06:00 AM hazzy-m: Idear is how we say it were I’m from in the south :)
06:01 AM dremeier[m]: oh good to know😁 , first if was not shure what is the different between idear and idea.
06:03 AM TurBoss: morning
06:03 AM dremeier[m]: Hola mister turbo 🙂
06:04 AM TurBoss: 🙂 hola dremeier
06:05 AM * hazzy-m has to go program some trailer fenders
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06:05 AM hazzy-m: BBL
06:06 AM dremeier[m]: 👍
06:07 AM dremeier[m]: Yesterday I was nearly finished with my major changes on the screen, but then i messed up something in probe_basic.ui. could not find the mistake, so today I start from the beginning. Good exercise🤣 🤣
06:21 AM Not-c468: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03installer [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JvYIm
06:21 AM Not-c468: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 03b594c53 - binary filename
07:12 AM TurBoss: ok I just wiped my home directory
07:12 AM TurBoss: al hail testdisk
07:12 AM TurBoss: \o/
07:26 AM hazzy-m: Oops
08:01 AM * dremeier[m] uploaded an image: background.png (186KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/nhbJAPVxXVhMKibICGVirhJU >
08:01 AM dremeier[m]: I´m becoming crasy 😩 , would like to change a backgraund color of a HALLabel, but everything I try, changed nothing.
08:02 AM TurBoss: background ?
08:03 AM dremeier[m]: background , yes
08:04 AM dremeier[m]: backgraund or backgraund-color makes no changes
08:04 AM Lcvette: dremeier: yo
08:04 AM dremeier[m]: *edit:* ~~backgraund or backgraund-color makes no changes~~ -> background or background-color makes no changes
08:06 AM dremeier[m]: I tried also a ActionButton or QLabel, always the same
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08:08 AM Lcvette: dremeier: ^^^
08:08 AM dremeier[m]: sure with a blank Frame, but not in probe_basic
08:08 AM Lcvette: that is in probe basic
08:08 AM Lcvette: on the setting page
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08:09 AM Lcvette: dremeier: ^^^
08:13 AM * dremeier[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot_at_2020-01-28_15-06-04.png (132KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/EdbRSkabdjWTeuZrxhTJeepp >
08:13 AM Lcvette: you are not formatting it properly
08:13 AM dremeier[m]: not here😩
08:13 AM Lcvette: it requires the full formatting
08:13 AM Lcvette: HalLabel {
08:13 AM Lcvette: }
08:14 AM Lcvette: also you are spelling background wrong
08:14 AM dremeier[m]: yes I did now ^^
08:14 AM Lcvette: your picture shows it spelled backgraund
08:15 AM dremeier[m]: yes now it works👌
08:15 AM Lcvette: easiest to copy the style sheet from another label for things like that and then just change the colors or border or text etc
08:15 AM Lcvette: that way yuopi avoid mistakes
08:15 AM Lcvette: * that way you avoid mistakes
08:16 AM dremeier[m]: what a shame
08:16 AM Lcvette: i found it is best to always use the full formatting so when style sheet changes are made they are easier to correct
08:17 AM dremeier[m]: now comes the expression, will see if it works that way
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08:22 AM dremeier[m]: but does not work, where is the mistake, I did again?
08:22 AM dremeier[m]: joint.0.fault I can see in the HALSHOW is working
08:38 AM TurBoss: !discord help
09:44 AM Not-c468: [02probe_basic] 07Lcvette created branch 03fix_MX 13https://git.io/JvY3B
09:44 AM Not-c468: [02probe_basic] 07Lcvette created branch 03fix_MX - 13https://git.io/JeDwL
09:44 AM Not-c468: [02probe_basic] 07Lcvette created branch 03master 13https://git.io/JvY3B
09:45 AM Lcvette: hazzy, if probe routines ar ein a files that canbe overwritten when updated im not sure that is a good thing
09:45 AM Lcvette: people could loose customizations they have made
09:45 AM Not-c468: [02probe_basic] 07KurtJacobson pushed 031 commit to 03gh-pages [+88/-0/±0] 13https://git.io/JvY3z
09:45 AM Not-c468: [02probe_basic] 07traviscibot 03298b766 - Deploy kcjengr/probe_basic to github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.git:gh-pages
09:46 AM Lcvette: * hazzy, if probe routines are in nc files that can be overwritten when updated im not sure that is a good thing
09:46 AM Lcvette: this is especially true of the M6 remap files
09:46 AM Lcvette: those are machine configred specific
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10:04 AM roguish[m]: do they form their own sheetmetal for their machines?
11:28 AM hazzy-m: No, they out source is to Rittal, but Rittal forms all the sheet metal on Schröder folders, so yes lol
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11:32 AM hazzy-m: The enclosure for the AC unit itself is not made on a Schröder since they make make them in such larger volumes they have their own line, but the rest of the cabinet is. The stainless washdown rated version of the AC units are made on a Schröder though
11:33 AM hazzy-m: Rittal has 6 fully automated folders, and they ordered them painted Rittal pink lol
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11:37 AM hazzy-m: I was supposed to install this one in Frankfort, but they forgot to pay for a 2M machine in time...
11:40 AM Lcvette: turboss are you here?
11:40 AM TurBoss: yep
11:41 AM Lcvette: you do arduino stuff?
11:41 AM TurBoss: lol
11:41 AM Lcvette: ever use the baby stepper motors and uln2003 drive?
11:41 AM TurBoss: yes
11:42 AM Lcvette: with linuxcnc?
11:42 AM TurBoss: 2003 yes but not baby ones
11:42 AM TurBoss: whats baby
11:42 AM Lcvette: tyring to figure out how to wire, the board just has 1in, 2in, 3in, 4in and not labeled for step dir
11:42 AM TurBoss: ah
11:43 AM TurBoss: yo need a l293
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11:44 AM TurBoss: uln2003 is paralel in paralel out
11:44 AM TurBoss: so tehy are just buffers
11:44 AM Lcvette: oh
11:44 AM Lcvette: i need l293
11:44 AM Lcvette: l293D?
11:44 AM TurBoss: sek
11:44 AM TurBoss: no
11:45 AM TurBoss: i'm wrong
11:45 AM TurBoss: l297 + l293 or l298
11:46 AM TurBoss: that or a cheap pololu a4988
11:46 AM TurBoss: or something rewer
11:46 AM Lcvette: https://www.amazon.com/Control-Stepping-Onboard-H-bridge-XYGStudy/dp/B00R33124K/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=l293+drive&qid=1580233097&sr=8-5
11:46 AM TurBoss: https://www.pololu.com/category/120/stepper-motor-drivers
11:47 AM TurBoss: with heatsink can drive up to 2A nema 23 xD
11:47 AM TurBoss: my machine used to work with that lol
11:47 AM Lcvette: this is a tony gear motor stepper
11:47 AM Lcvette: 28BYJ-48
11:48 AM Lcvette: * this is a tiny gear motor stepper
11:48 AM Lcvette: lcvette think he is in over his head
11:48 AM Lcvette: lol
11:48 AM Lcvette: maybe i will redesign it with a nema 17 and normal drive
11:49 AM TurBoss: nono
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11:49 AM TurBoss: is fine
11:50 AM TurBoss: Lcvette: ^^
11:50 AM Lcvette: ok
11:51 AM Lcvette: https://www.amazon.com/Twotrees-Stepper-Driver-TB6600-Controller/dp/B07PNZRPQH/ref=sr_1_16?keywords=nema+17+stepper+motor+drive&qid=1580233327&sr=8-16
11:51 AM TurBoss: see the little pottentiomenter?
11:51 AM TurBoss: no need to redesign
11:51 AM TurBoss: thoos motors are fine
11:52 AM TurBoss: you on have to wire them in bipolar
11:52 AM TurBoss: * thoose motors are fine
11:52 AM Lcvette: would that drive be in my kit?
11:52 AM TurBoss: could be
11:53 AM dremeier[m]: better ist to take a tmc2130, no poti, if you like you can set up the drive via spi.
11:53 AM dremeier[m]: or tmc2100
11:54 AM dremeier[m]: *edit:* ~~better ist to take a tmc2130, no poti, if you like you can set up the drive via spi.~~ -> better is to take a tmc2130, no poti, if you like you can set up the drive via spi.
11:54 AM TurBoss: but should be drive but step dir signals
11:54 AM TurBoss: also checking that part
11:54 AM TurBoss: :)
11:54 AM dremeier[m]: is step/dir
11:54 AM dremeier[m]: i use them in my diy printer
11:54 AM TurBoss: oh Im blind
11:55 AM TurBoss: so is a setting stored inside?
11:55 AM TurBoss: adjusted by spi?
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11:55 AM TurBoss: no wonky Lcvette
11:56 AM Lcvette: so when you guys have a definitive one i need let me know and i will order it
11:56 AM dremeier[m]: yes defaul values a stored. by spi you can setup a lot and ther are very quite, the motor will be driven quiter
11:57 AM dremeier[m]: how many amps dou you need?
11:59 AM TurBoss: its really low
11:59 AM TurBoss: 40mA
11:59 AM Lcvette: https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/28byj-48-series/59691?utm_adgroup=xGeneral&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Dynamic%20Search&utm_term=&utm_content=xGeneral&gclid=CjwKCAiA1L_xBRA2EiwAgcLKA6a8r0pxt9Zaz4Em4zhO1tIrz7vQvPTuVtwkOUtwERwmPi_XVtsy5BoCFawQAvD_BwE
11:59 AM Lcvette: this is the motor
12:00 PM TurBoss: http://robocraft.ru/files/datasheet/28BYJ-48.pdf
12:00 PM TurBoss: http://descargas.cetronic.es/28BYJ-48.pdf
12:00 PM TurBoss: :)=
12:01 PM dremeier[m]: chris I guess you will drive the amp via lcnc? so I would start with a tmc 2208, ther is a poti where you can adjust the current. that should be fine enough
12:05 PM dremeier[m]: https://www.trinamic.com/products/integrated-circuits/details/tmc2208-la/
12:05 PM Lcvette: yeah easy to connect 4 wires to mesa 7i76?
12:05 PM dremeier[m]: so fine for your 5V motor, take that tmc2208
12:05 PM dremeier[m]: should be no problem
12:05 PM dremeier[m]: https://shop.watterott.com/SilentStepStick-TMC2208_1
12:07 PM TurBoss: because i have so mamy of a4988 unused and low money if not i'll bought some of thoose tmc2208
12:07 PM Lcvette: do they make it in a case?
12:07 PM Lcvette: that has screw temrinals?
12:07 PM Lcvette: lol
12:07 PM TurBoss: will need a little pcb with som ¿? borniers ¿?
12:08 PM TurBoss: that exist?
12:10 PM Lcvette: ok this got complicated wuicly
12:10 PM Lcvette: * ok this got complicated quickly
12:10 PM dremeier[m]: a never used the a4988 but i quess they will do the work as weöö but if you buy new ones better the tmc
12:10 PM Lcvette: think im gonna grab a nema17 motor and drive kit
12:10 PM TurBoss: sek i have some one arround
12:10 PM Lcvette: they are $19 shipped
12:11 PM dremeier[m]: you can solder some headers on a normal pcb and screw this pcb in your case
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12:13 PM dremeier[m]: 👍
12:13 PM Lcvette: lcvette doesn't want to solder
12:13 PM Lcvette: he just wants the ease of scrw temrinals and easy mounting
12:14 PM Lcvette: gonna redesign for nema 17
12:14 PM Lcvette: :(
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01:03 PM dremeier[m]: it is done for today, not nice but works
01:04 PM Lcvette: nice!
01:05 PM Lcvette: probe basic did need a status page update!
01:05 PM dremeier[m]: 😁 👍
01:08 PM dremeier[m]: just a smal question beside, how can i jump from step jog to continus jog?
01:23 PM Lcvette: add the word jog in the increment line in the ini\
01:24 PM Lcvette: INCREMENTS = JOG, 1.000, 0.100, 0.010, 0.001
01:24 PM Lcvette: a jog button will magically appear
01:33 PM Lcvette: dremeier: ^^^
01:33 PM Lcvette: the link you sent for the step motor drive says its for 12-24v but the motor is 5v
01:44 PM TurBoss: https://www.pololu.com/category/120/stepper-motor-drivers
01:45 PM TurBoss: there is a table
01:46 PM Lcvette: so not the other one?
01:46 PM Lcvette: tmc2208?
01:47 PM TurBoss: should be other models
01:47 PM Lcvette: i can't fit the nema17
01:47 PM Lcvette: :(
01:47 PM Lcvette: so now i ordered everything for the 28j motor
01:47 PM Lcvette: so im stuck with it
01:48 PM Lcvette: https://www.pololu.com/product/2966
01:48 PM Lcvette: this one?
01:48 PM Lcvette: down to 4.5v
01:48 PM TurBoss: https://www.pololu.com/product/2134
01:48 PM Lcvette: what is the pot for?
01:49 PM Lcvette: current adjustment?
01:49 PM TurBoss: yes
01:49 PM TurBoss: very easy with multimeter
01:49 PM * TurBoss has visitors
01:50 PM TurBoss: away for a while
01:50 PM Lcvette: ok, thsanks turboss!
01:50 PM TurBoss: :)
02:30 PM dremeier[m]: @ Chris: "the link you sent for the step motor drive says its for 12-24v but the motor is 5v"
02:30 PM dremeier[m]: For shure the driver can handle 5V!
02:30 PM dremeier[m]: Chris: "the link you sent for the step motor drive says its for 12-24v but the motor is 5v"
02:30 PM dremeier[m]: For shure the driver can handle 5V!
02:32 PM dremeier[m]: > add the word jog in the increment line in the ini\\
02:32 PM dremeier[m]: @Lcvette#0000
02:32 PM dremeier[m]: Thank you, it works 👌
02:35 PM Lcvette: but can the drive work on only 5v?
02:35 PM Lcvette: it says 12-24v
02:36 PM dremeier[m]: becaus ist is for printer, but if you look at the data sheed it says from ~4,75 V to 36
02:36 PM dremeier[m]: because it is for printer, but if you look at the data sheed it says from ~4,75 V to 36
02:36 PM Lcvette: ah ok
02:36 PM Lcvette: so do i need anything else with that?
02:37 PM dremeier[m]: the driver are nearly all the same
02:37 PM Lcvette: or just the motor, that drive, 5v ps, step+ step- dir+ dir- from lcnc
02:37 PM dremeier[m]: but take what ever you want it will work
02:38 PM dremeier[m]: logig is only 5V max, for the motor 5 to 36V
02:39 PM * dremeier[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ItLUrGmuDhZEaQHoKuXENFgj >
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02:40 PM dremeier[m]: sorry was in german... now english
03:56 PM dremeier[m]: *edit:* ~~logig is only 5V max, for the motor 5 to 36V~~ -> logic is only 5V max, for the motor 5 to 36V
04:45 PM Not-c468: [02probe_basic] 07dremeier forked the repository - 13https://git.io/JvqvQ
06:28 PM hazzy-m: hello
06:30 PM TurBoss: hi
06:33 PM jthornton: yo
06:33 PM Tom_L: icy slush
06:33 PM Tom_L: hi
06:33 PM TurBoss: jthornton: do qtToolBox make any useful thing on your expresion generator?
06:34 PM jthornton: yuck, we are supposed to get wintery mix tomorrow
06:34 PM TurBoss: *sense
06:34 PM jthornton: not looked at qToolBox, what is it?
06:34 PM hazzy-m: Installer, HURRYAY!!
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