#hazzy Logs
Oct 27 2019
#hazzy Calendar
12:30 AM Lcvette: Turboss
12:30 AM TurBoss: Lcvette:
12:30 AM TurBoss: you arround?
12:30 AM Lcvette: Lol
12:30 AM Lcvette: Yes
12:30 AM TurBoss: can you try the latest vtk?
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12:30 AM Lcvette: Yes
12:30 AM Lcvette: I have this kit
12:32 AM TurBoss: pb master doesn't work with vtk branch
12:32 AM TurBoss: do you have uncommited changes?
12:32 AM Lcvette: what branch then?
12:32 AM Lcvette: no
12:32 AM TurBoss: ok you can now reset to this commit
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12:33 AM Lcvette: ok i checked out the new vtk on qtpyvcp and the settings branch on probe basic
12:34 AM TurBoss: see ? i went to past
12:34 AM TurBoss: only temportally
12:34 AM TurBoss: checkout master
12:35 AM TurBoss: then right click on the commit i said then reset hard
12:35 AM TurBoss: but not push
12:35 AM TurBoss: push in there will break
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12:36 AM TurBoss: okay
12:36 AM TurBoss: now you are on that commit
12:36 AM TurBoss: that wone works with the new vtk
12:36 AM TurBoss: glorious victory awaits
12:37 AM TurBoss: * that one works with the new vtk
12:39 AM Lcvette: you did it!!
12:39 AM TurBoss: from the table choose the one that maches the voltage specified in the schematic h_zzy posted
12:39 AM Lcvette: \o/
12:40 AM TurBoss: i did it?
12:40 AM TurBoss: \o/
12:40 AM TurBoss: turbo party
12:40 AM TurBoss: !!
12:40 AM TurBoss: ~o~
12:40 AM Lcvette: turbo birthday!!
12:40 AM Lcvette: whoopp whoop!!
12:40 AM Lcvette: :D
12:40 AM TurBoss: little tweaks left
12:40 AM TurBoss: but thats minor
12:40 AM Lcvette: but it follows the offset nicely nopw and loads properly
12:40 AM Lcvette: regardless of where things start
12:41 AM TurBoss: hihihi
12:41 AM TurBoss: @gif excelent
12:41 AM TurBoss: * @giphy excelent
12:41 AM TurBoss: @giphy excelent
12:41 AM Lcvette: !gipphy Excellent
12:41 AM TurBoss: yea
12:41 AM Lcvette: !giphy excellent
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12:42 AM Lcvette: lol
12:42 AM Lcvette: \o/
12:42 AM TurBoss: 🚀
12:44 AM TurBoss: https://youtu.be/QliQ0livbeQ
12:47 AM * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2019-10-27_01-41-16.png (36KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/djVLOcVTAVEclAsFcwuuhslY >
12:47 AM Lcvette: \o/
12:47 AM Lcvette: perfecto
12:48 AM Lcvette: !!!
12:49 AM Lcvette: merge?
12:49 AM TurBoss: http://f0xnews.us/2019/10/27/TurBoss-did-it/10VHVyQm9zcyBkaWQgaXQ=.SGUgZml4ZWQgdGhlIG1lc3MgaGUgZGlk.aHR0cHM6Ly9saXZlLnN0YXRpY2ZsaWNrci5jb20vMzI3OC8yNjQ1NTgyNTgyX2YyYjYwOGMzNjJfei5qcGc=
12:50 AM Lcvette: lol
12:50 AM TurBoss: \o/
12:50 AM TurBoss: not yet
12:50 AM TurBoss: nee to remove rapids from last movement
12:50 AM TurBoss: * need to remove rapids from last movement
12:51 AM Lcvette: ?
12:51 AM Lcvette: rapids ?
12:51 AM Lcvette: thats in the program no?
12:51 AM TurBoss: but one is wrong
12:51 AM Lcvette: ah
12:51 AM TurBoss: in the second tuc
12:51 AM TurBoss: * in the second tux
12:51 AM Lcvette: gotcha
12:52 AM Lcvette: thats a nother major accomplishnment
12:52 AM Lcvette: \o/
12:52 AM Lcvette: hurray!!
12:52 AM TurBoss: bravo!!
12:52 AM TurBoss: ole!
12:53 AM TurBoss: toros!
12:53 AM TurBoss: lol
12:53 AM Lcvette: hahahaha
12:53 AM TurBoss: now go figure how to catch tha line
12:54 AM Lcvette: i still don't see it
12:54 AM TurBoss: if you load
12:54 AM TurBoss: its on the right place
12:54 AM TurBoss: is the rapid that moves from one to another origin
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12:56 AM Lcvette: looks right
12:57 AM Lcvette: because this does not specify a safe move in z before transitioning to the next offset it wil take the shortest path at the origin z plane
12:58 AM Lcvette: or the clearance plane
12:58 AM Lcvette: cam software would move the spindle to safe distance
12:59 AM Lcvette: it would use the clearance plane of the highest tool path point
12:59 AM Lcvette: no?
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01:00 AM TurBoss: this one
01:00 AM Lcvette: picture is too small
01:01 AM Lcvette: can't make anything out
01:01 AM TurBoss: the penguin on the top
01:01 AM TurBoss: has a rapid on it that is wrong it goes to the point where the other penguin was
01:03 AM TurBoss: lolololol
01:03 AM TurBoss: bugazo
01:04 AM TurBoss: if you shift + alt in the 3d area
01:04 AM TurBoss: magic happends
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01:05 AM TurBoss: yes that one
01:05 AM Lcvette: NOTHING HAPPENS WHEN I CLICK SHIFT+ALT
01:05 AM TurBoss: inside the 3d area?
01:06 AM Lcvette: what 3d area? the backplot window?
01:06 AM TurBoss: yes
01:06 AM Lcvette: nothing happens
01:06 AM TurBoss: click on it
01:06 AM TurBoss: :|
01:06 AM Lcvette: pan!
01:06 AM Lcvette: ?
01:06 AM TurBoss: hmm no
01:07 AM TurBoss: mine crashes
01:07 AM Lcvette: shift+alt_left mouse button pans
01:07 AM Lcvette: mine does not crash
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01:08 AM TurBoss: I think I can fix
01:08 AM Lcvette: i get no error
01:08 AM Lcvette: maybe your euro keyboard?
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01:10 AM Lcvette: shows the line for the rapid but does not use it
01:10 AM TurBoss: \o/
01:10 AM TurBoss: yea
01:14 AM Lcvette: \o/
01:14 AM Lcvette: :D
01:14 AM TurBoss: probably keyboard
01:15 AM Lcvette: damn keyboard
01:15 AM Lcvette: new one?
01:15 AM TurBoss: ñññ çççç
01:15 AM TurBoss: :P
01:15 AM Lcvette: :o
01:16 AM TurBoss: about the transistor
01:17 AM Lcvette: yes
01:20 AM TurBoss: 2n2222 is fine
01:20 AM TurBoss: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2N2222
01:20 AM TurBoss: up to 50 v
01:21 AM Lcvette: is there a way to keep it normally closed?
01:21 AM TurBoss: but R?
01:21 AM Lcvette: trigger when open
01:21 AM Lcvette: ?
01:22 AM TurBoss: why?
01:22 AM Lcvette: safety
01:22 AM TurBoss: the wire ?
01:22 AM TurBoss: probe stils NC
01:22 AM Lcvette: oh
01:22 AM Lcvette: ok
01:22 AM Lcvette: so the mesa will receive a 24v signal until it is triggered?
01:23 AM TurBoss: yes
01:23 AM Lcvette: ok
01:23 AM Lcvette: not sure on r value
01:25 AM TurBoss: one is 1k
01:25 AM Lcvette: O should get out the electronics kit and make up the circuit to test resistors
01:26 AM TurBoss: the one betwen transistor and probe
01:26 AM Lcvette: I'm unclear what the transistor does
01:26 AM Lcvette: Is it like a relay?
01:27 AM TurBoss: yes
01:27 AM TurBoss: it has a delay also
01:27 AM TurBoss: so better pic 2n2222 pdf
01:28 AM TurBoss: ok
01:28 AM TurBoss: is 4,7k
01:28 AM Lcvette: So a 1k and a 4k7
01:28 AM TurBoss: yup
01:28 AM Lcvette: Ok
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01:29 AM TurBoss: but we are on 5 v
01:29 AM TurBoss: 10 ki sok too
01:29 AM TurBoss: * 10k is ok too
01:30 AM Lcvette: 10k?
01:30 AM TurBoss: 10k + 4.7k
01:31 AM Lcvette: Ok
01:31 AM Lcvette: I will build it on breadboard to test tomorrow
01:31 AM TurBoss: okay
01:32 AM Lcvette: And we if I have enough me gth to move pin 26,27 to another pin
01:38 AM Lcvette: Great work on vtk and that KS for the help on the probe and mpg
01:38 AM Lcvette: Lcvette goes to sleep.. 2:30am here, what time there?
01:49 AM TurBoss: 7:30
05:00 AM jthornton: 4:54
05:02 AM TurBoss: good morning JT
05:02 AM jthornton: morning
05:02 AM TurBoss: I fixed the vtk finall !
05:02 AM jthornton: yippie!
05:02 AM TurBoss: only small tweaks left
05:02 AM TurBoss: offsets now work smooth
05:03 AM jthornton: vtk can be a bit of a pain
05:03 AM TurBoss: in hardware compatibility?
05:03 AM TurBoss: or software?
05:03 AM TurBoss: or both
05:03 AM TurBoss: lol
05:03 AM jthornton: in programming
05:04 AM TurBoss: you did a great jog with all te slots in there!
05:04 AM jthornton: putzing around with FreeCAD
05:04 AM TurBoss: very welcome
05:04 AM TurBoss: *job
05:04 AM jthornton: thanks
05:04 AM TurBoss: i use freecad a nice tool
05:05 AM TurBoss: it has its bugs but..
05:05 AM jthornton: last time I tried it was crap
05:05 AM TurBoss: ya..
05:05 AM jthornton: but now it seems to be very good for free software, not on the level of SolidWorks but free
05:05 AM TurBoss: jthornton: what do you know about buildbot?
05:06 AM TurBoss: :P
05:06 AM jthornton: it's in Seb's garage...
05:06 AM jthornton: why?
05:06 AM TurBoss: lol
05:06 AM TurBoss: software
05:07 AM TurBoss: I'm trying to restore a master config without their database
05:07 AM TurBoss: and i cant
05:07 AM jthornton: never looked at the buildbot software
05:07 AM TurBoss: ok! thanks
05:08 AM jthornton: I did look at Seb's instructions once but it was too complicated at the time
05:08 AM TurBoss: https://buildbot.springrts.com/waterfall
05:09 AM TurBoss: mine are win64 and macos
05:09 AM TurBoss: is for our rts game engine
05:12 AM jthornton: I used to like to play Doom
05:14 AM TurBoss: yeah!
05:14 AM TurBoss: are you working on any interface stuff?
05:16 AM jthornton: trying to make a mount for my LCD display and LED alerter for my Eagle Tree Vector on the Wayland S500
05:16 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnMcWxh-ufE
05:28 AM TurBoss: cool!
05:31 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33XqGjc9gJQ
05:31 AM jthornton: I got this one a few weeks ago and now it all is starting to make sense for the S500
05:32 AM TurBoss: yes you showed
05:32 AM TurBoss: wow amazin view
05:32 AM jthornton: so I'm anxious to get it up and going on some programmed flights
05:32 AM TurBoss: ole
05:32 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/user/Gnipsel/videos
05:33 AM TurBoss: jthornton: would you be able to test the new vtk branch?
05:33 AM TurBoss: pleaseeee
05:33 AM TurBoss: :P
05:34 AM TurBoss: not now when you like to
05:34 AM jthornton: which one is it? I see 4 vtk branches
05:35 AM TurBoss: vtk g5x
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05:37 AM TurBoss: VtkGx
05:37 AM TurBoss: I should check an delete the others
05:37 AM TurBoss: thanks for reminder
05:38 AM jthornton: np
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05:47 AM JT[m]: a bit of overlap on each notification
05:48 AM JT[m]: hmm they don't automagicly go away?
05:48 AM TurBoss: new feature
05:48 AM TurBoss: no
05:48 AM TurBoss: not yet
05:48 AM TurBoss: it should¿
05:48 AM jthornton: just testing :)
05:53 AM jthornton: lol everytime I look at a tutorial video with someone's ugly face in the corner I stop watching it, that is so stupid
05:53 AM TurBoss: :D
05:54 AM jthornton: is there an option to turn off desktop notifications?
05:55 AM TurBoss: not for now
05:57 AM TurBoss: I can add it?
05:57 AM TurBoss: not a question
05:59 AM jthornton: yea I'm not a fan of desktop notifications unless it is critical
06:59 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: https://youtu.be/5qm1n2i3glM next one with mounting point 🙈 12 times diameter with a 2.5mm drill 🙈
07:23 AM hazzy-m: That's a deep hole!
07:26 AM jthornton: morning
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11:43 AM Lcvette: Morning
11:43 AM Lcvette: Lcvette is cooking
11:43 AM Lcvette: Making ABT's
11:43 AM Lcvette: \o/
11:44 AM Lcvette: Atomic Buffalo Turds
11:50 AM Lcvette: JT, have you had any of the field I/O's go out on a 7i77 before?
11:57 AM jthornton: no
12:10 PM TurBoss: hello
12:12 PM Tom_L: hi
12:15 PM TurBoss: Hi Tom_L
12:26 PM Lcvette: hola
12:26 PM Lcvette: \o/
12:28 PM Lcvette: "The probe rx has this transitor setup on the inside, you provide the resistor to the 24v supply as described in your transistor diagram. It's the same thing.
12:28 PM Lcvette: The white wire from the probe rx can only bring the input to ground potential. The resistor takes the input up to 24v when the probe is not active."
12:28 PM Lcvette: turboss ^^^
12:28 PM Lcvette: from the probe maker
12:29 PM Lcvette: is the board power and the field power ground common?
12:29 PM Tom_L: pullup resistor
12:32 PM TurBoss: hola
12:34 PM TurBoss: then one pull up resistor should be ok
12:34 PM TurBoss: have you shared grounds?
12:35 PM TurBoss: vfield ground to probe gnd
12:36 PM Lcvette: is that allowed?
12:37 PM Tom_L: grounds should be in a star configuration connecting at one point
12:38 PM Lcvette: ?
12:38 PM Tom_L: not GND-----GND----GND----GND
12:38 PM Tom_L: but ------GND
12:38 PM Lcvette: connecting the 7i92's power supply to the 7i77 and the field 24v power supply grounds together?
12:38 PM Tom_L: ------GND
12:38 PM Tom_L: ------GND
12:38 PM Tom_L: ------GND
12:38 PM Tom_L: ------GND
12:38 PM Lcvette: i don't kow electronics so im asking
12:38 PM Tom_L: all to one point with separate wires
12:42 PM TurBoss: yes its needed to have a reference to 0
12:42 PM Lcvette: so i need to jumper TB1 ground out put to the field voltage output?
12:42 PM TurBoss: no
12:42 PM Lcvette: please draw it
12:42 PM TurBoss: from the field IO ground
12:42 PM TurBoss: to the probe ground
12:42 PM TurBoss: direct
12:44 PM Lcvette: so the problem is that the 7i77 5v power and the field power are not sharing a ground?
12:44 PM Lcvette: because otherwise that would be handled internally in the probes receiver
12:45 PM Lcvette: ?
12:45 PM TurBoss: yes
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12:51 PM TurBoss: Lcvette: for some reason I'm unable to set rotation from the probe to the path
12:52 PM TurBoss: I'm adding rotate feature
12:57 PM * Lcvette uploaded an image: IMG_20191027_135120541.jpg (2920KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/nWeAFzrqwnOpVlPbVGufkTmX >
12:57 PM * TurBoss uploaded an image: image.png (41KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/LrduXixQcUdwmYlSWpRlPxqU >
12:58 PM Lcvette: ?
12:59 PM Lcvette: i don't understand
12:59 PM TurBoss: I have to rotate it manually from the table
12:59 PM TurBoss: but the buttons doesnt
12:59 PM TurBoss: from probe
01:01 PM * TurBoss uploaded an image: image.png (44KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/HvTtsvKtumQysNUxtiEGLFea >
01:02 PM Lcvette: still don't understand
01:02 PM Lcvette: video?
01:02 PM TurBoss: the probe buttons doesnt set a rotations
01:03 PM Lcvette: did you check the set wco button underneath the buttons?
01:03 PM TurBoss: oh no
01:10 PM Lcvette: works now?
01:15 PM Lcvette: TurBoss: ?
01:15 PM TurBoss: testing
01:15 PM TurBoss: I there is a rotation in a offset probe routines run with rotation
01:23 PM Lcvette: ?
01:23 PM Lcvette: try that last sentence again
01:23 PM Tom_L: set the R in your offset table
01:23 PM Tom_L: ?
01:24 PM Lcvette: probing will do that
01:24 PM TurBoss: by hand works
01:31 PM Lcvette: TurBoss: i just ran it
01:32 PM Lcvette: it sets th rotation offset in the offset table, but does not show the origin offset change
01:35 PM TurBoss: ok
01:37 PM * Lcvette posted a file: probe_rotation_offset.mkv (3857KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/sZVnxSEbjdHSHHZmDGRQjAmr >
01:38 PM Lcvette: TurBoss: ^^^
01:38 PM TurBoss: ah that button
01:38 PM TurBoss: lol
01:40 PM Lcvette: see what happened?
01:40 PM Lcvette: if you don't select that button it just records the corner zero point
01:41 PM Lcvette: gives you flexibility
01:49 PM * Wandoo1980|Sebas uploaded an image: IMG_20191027_151032.jpg (2939KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/wICNrwhcTNJkqkDruIOMrQKU >
01:49 PM * Wandoo1980|Sebas uploaded an image: IMG_20191027_151208.jpg (3453KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/VgfVATSUNxLDPhTEtjjmhGQM >
01:49 PM * Wandoo1980|Sebas uploaded an image: IMG_20191027_144750.jpg (3619KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/GBRjlViyzZpXzgaaXOngfPJt >
01:49 PM * Wandoo1980|Sebas uploaded an image: IMG_20191027_151043.jpg (3552KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/jauriarts.org/DfvLHVpOaCpDOULLortYnRQJ >
01:49 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: With mounting point: Done!
01:56 PM Lcvette: Wandoo1980 | Sebastian | End-CNC: nice!!
02:14 PM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03VtkGx [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/Jeuvt
02:14 PM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 034283ced - apply rotation to paths
02:16 PM Lcvette: turboss you did it?
02:16 PM Lcvette: need testing?
02:18 PM TurBoss: yes for rotation
02:20 PM Lcvette: seems same as before
02:23 PM TurBoss: with a open program=
02:23 PM Lcvette: no i was wrong
02:24 PM Lcvette: it requires a view change to redraw but now the origin is drawn with the correct rotation
02:24 PM TurBoss: ahm
02:27 PM TurBoss: I'll make a vid
02:27 PM Lcvette: tested with program open
02:27 PM Lcvette: blank program
02:28 PM Lcvette: everything is correct except the origin does not auto redraw after probing
02:28 PM Lcvette: shows no prigin
02:28 PM Lcvette: origin
02:29 PM TurBoss: okay
02:29 PM * TurBoss uploaded a video: Peek 27-10-2019 20-22.mp4 (1218KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/VRsWGuddRPqjzVVzqGWBhZGD >
02:31 PM Lcvette: TurBoss: that routine wose not set a wco
02:31 PM Lcvette: it needs 3 points
02:31 PM TurBoss: ah could be the old ones
02:31 PM Lcvette: needs the corner routine i think
02:31 PM TurBoss: ok
02:31 PM TurBoss: testing
02:31 PM Lcvette: to locate the origin
02:38 PM TurBoss: for me draws correctly
02:43 PM TurBoss: Lcvette: ground should exit from TB2 PIN 8
02:44 PM * TurBoss uploaded an image: image.png (72KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/BxGyqiBPYLWsVnMsQLhUNxOh >
02:45 PM Lcvette: just resolved the probe
02:45 PM Lcvette: it needs a 24v to 5v reducer so the 5v and 24v share ground
02:46 PM Lcvette: the 5v and 24v on the mesa cards do not share ground
02:46 PM Lcvette: i verified with multimeter
02:46 PM Lcvette: probably why i fired some things
02:46 PM Lcvette: fried
02:46 PM TurBoss: sad
02:46 PM TurBoss: ☹️
02:47 PM Lcvette: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B7BBEGO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
02:47 PM Lcvette: but the probe manufacturer sais he is going to now make and offer a 24v powered receiver also
02:47 PM Lcvette: so.. now i must buy a new 7i77
02:52 PM Lcvette: Now lcvette finds comfort in some Atomic Buffalo Turds
02:54 PM Lcvette: Turboss, you know of atomic buffalo Turds?
02:54 PM TurBoss: no
02:54 PM Lcvette: :o
02:54 PM * Lcvette uploaded an image: VectorImage_2019-10-27_034836.jpg (117KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/tjBTREsLMqUIyZOTyHLNqhil >
02:55 PM TurBoss: wow
02:55 PM Lcvette: Bacon wrapped jalapenos stuffed with cream cheese and cheddar cheese
02:56 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGrjXJUVqCY Some CNC-Porn for the meal 😇
02:57 PM Lcvette: excellent!!
03:05 PM Lcvette: z axis of doom?
03:05 PM Lcvette: Wandoo1980 | Sebastian | End-CNC: ^^^
03:05 PM Lcvette: what happened?
03:05 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Yes 😂
03:06 PM Lcvette: probe basic fault?
03:06 PM Lcvette: or programming error?
03:06 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: The PID controller of the servo had opened up .... he has never done
03:06 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: 🤷
03:07 PM Lcvette: :o
03:07 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: It was from the amp not from linuxCNC
03:07 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: I have set a little less acceleration
03:07 PM Lcvette: ah
03:07 PM Lcvette: probing works good!
03:08 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: I think these small, fast steps engraving were too much ^ ^
03:08 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Yes, the probing runs great 😍
03:09 PM Lcvette: hmmm fastert hen axis servos could correct?
03:10 PM Lcvette: are you running step direction or analog?
03:10 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: no, digital with a 7i76e
03:11 PM Lcvette: so step direction
03:11 PM Lcvette: wierd
03:12 PM Lcvette: drive for z did not fault?
03:13 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: You can see it here.... 😂
03:13 PM Lcvette: should be a setting to fault and send error to 7i76 and linuxcnc if the following error exceeds a set amount
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03:13 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: The dark D was it ^^
03:13 PM Lcvette: bold
03:14 PM Lcvette: lol
03:14 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: I guess my machine have a problem with Ds 😂
03:14 PM Lcvette: you should machine a tab on the bottom with a hole to fit in the magnetic base holder end
03:14 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: No, the driver has continued
03:15 PM Lcvette: check the drive settings
03:15 PM Lcvette: most drives have a fault setting when the commanded positon and encoder position error grows beyond a set tolerance
03:15 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: The Vibration was so less but effectiv 😅
03:16 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: LinuxCNC has also continued
03:16 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: it would switch off at a tracking error of 0.1mm
03:17 PM Lcvette: the drive will have a output usually 24v error channel\
03:17 PM Lcvette: you can setup the 7i76e and linuxcnc to use that fault to estop
03:17 PM Lcvette: what drives do you have?
03:17 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Yes but LinuxCNC and the driver was not in error 🤷
03:18 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: JMC with 400W
03:18 PM Lcvette: probably because the drive is not setup
03:19 PM Lcvette: Wandoo1980 | Sebastian | End-CNC: JASD drives from JMC?
03:19 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: However, normally it works perfectly and also the error output works
03:19 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: exactly
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03:19 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: 👍
03:24 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: I think the extremely short lifts with G0 have set the PID in vibration. I'll watch that. It worked already almost 4 months perfectly.
03:27 PM Lcvette: maybe change the setting in the ini for your z axis
03:27 PM Lcvette: slow it down
03:27 PM Lcvette: mine is 708ipm on x and y
03:28 PM Lcvette: and z axis is less
03:28 PM Lcvette: 354ipm
03:28 PM Lcvette: i used a higher torque motor that had lower rpm max speed
03:29 PM Lcvette: so it would be presice with high torque for drilling big drills and other high torque requirements without faulting
03:29 PM Lcvette: your drives have alot of parameter settings
03:30 PM Lcvette: and automatic inertia tuning it looks like
03:30 PM Lcvette: as well as automatic rigidity tuning
03:30 PM Lcvette: can turn on to automatic?
03:30 PM Lcvette: or if on automatic maybe set manually to ensure it doesn't adjut down too far
03:32 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: I have a 1: 2 ratio with a timing belt on all axis. I used the autotuning and then set it back to manual. The values were then preserved
03:33 PM Wandoo1980|Sebas: I will try your suggestions
03:37 PM Lcvette: takes some trial and error
06:22 PM roguish[m]: well, just had a spot of excitement. it's pretty windy here, and a fire started on a hill side just across thre freeway, 1/2 mile away.
06:23 PM roguish[m]: got to watch a big tanker plane come in for a retardant drop. pretty cool.
06:23 PM roguish[m]: evacuation area was only 1/4 mile away.
06:23 PM roguish[m]: all done now.
06:27 PM jthornton: wow
06:29 PM roguish[m]: https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/video/4198523-raw-fire-burning-on-north-side-of-highway-24-in-lafayette/
06:30 PM * jthornton resists clicking on the video
06:31 PM roguish[m]: but no flood, tonadoes, or hurricanes...... just shake and bake.
06:32 PM jthornton: lol
09:11 PM Lcvette: jthornton: do you know of a way to test for bad inputs on a 7i77?
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09:15 PM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07KurtJacobson 03b518d66 - settings LineEdit - only update RULE_PROPERTIES once
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09:35 PM Lcvette: hazzy? o/
09:35 PM Lcvette: you did it?
09:36 PM Lcvette: turboss, i tried changing the inoput to new pins and changing the hal file to match but no luck
09:36 PM Lcvette: now im wondering if something is different in the config maybe?
09:38 PM TurBoss: wow much better
09:39 PM Lcvette: maybe
09:39 PM Lcvette: or the pins i changed to are also bad
09:39 PM Lcvette: i changed to 2 and 29 from 26 and 27
09:40 PM TurBoss: :\
09:40 PM Lcvette: 28 and 29*
09:44 PM Lcvette: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/mpg.html
09:44 PM Lcvette: this has some things that are not on mine
09:48 PM Tom_L: Lcvette what did those pins do?
09:48 PM Tom_L: GPIO?
09:48 PM Lcvette: just empy inputs on tb7
09:49 PM Tom_L: what is the input device?
09:49 PM Tom_L: the probe?
09:49 PM Lcvette: no mpp scale
09:49 PM Lcvette: still broken trying to figure out what changed or is wropng
09:49 PM Tom_L: it's unlikely it's the mesa card
09:49 PM Lcvette: mechanically nothing changed and the files are unchanged
09:50 PM Lcvette: but scale input stopped wokring
09:50 PM Tom_L: unless you badly shorted something
09:50 PM Lcvette: well when the probe was connected, the axis's freaked out
09:50 PM Lcvette: so something wasn't right
09:50 PM Tom_L: what voltages?
09:50 PM Lcvette: but i imagine the new pins wouldn't be an issue
09:50 PM Lcvette: they were empty previously
09:51 PM Tom_L: if you put 24v on a 5v input it might have a problem
09:51 PM Tom_L: what was the field io voltage set to?
09:51 PM Lcvette: tb1 the 5v from the 7i92 was connected to the probe receiver and then the probe receiver output was connected to fuield 24v
09:52 PM Lcvette: ^^
09:53 PM Lcvette: i just saw that i am not showing this line in my file
09:53 PM Lcvette: # If your MPG outputs a quadrature signal per click set x4 to 1
09:53 PM Lcvette: # If your MPG puts out 1 pulse per click set x4 to 0
09:53 PM Lcvette: setp encoder.0.x4-mode 0
09:53 PM Lcvette: maybe possible it is in velocity mode some how/
09:54 PM Tom_L: idk
09:55 PM Lcvette: or is that for using an encoder input
09:57 PM Tom_L: same thing
09:57 PM Tom_L: they're both encoders
09:57 PM Lcvette: encoder input on 7i77
09:57 PM Tom_L: iirc mine is not in x4 mode but i'd have to look
09:57 PM Lcvette: not the mpg
09:58 PM Lcvette: you can connect an mpg two ways
09:58 PM Lcvette: to an encoder input
09:58 PM Lcvette: for an axis
09:58 PM Lcvette: or to the mpg input pins on tb7
09:58 PM Tom_L: yeah i remember that
09:58 PM Lcvette: mine uses the mpg inputs on tb7 for a and b phase
09:58 PM Tom_L: mine is different
09:59 PM Lcvette: so im not sure if the encoder line is for when it is connected to an actual encoder inout
10:12 PM Lcvette: this is soo frustrating
10:47 PM Lcvette: TurBoss: Tom_L bad pins on 7i77
10:48 PM Lcvette: i moved them again, this time to tb8 and adjusted the halfile and now it works again
10:48 PM Lcvette: \o/
10:48 PM Lcvette: at least now i know what is broken and its the 7i77
10:49 PM Lcvette: pcw_home if you stop by here, the 7i77 has some bad inputs, 4 that i know off so far
10:49 PM Lcvette: pins 26,27,28,29
10:49 PM TurBoss: hurray!
10:50 PM Lcvette: well that was an expensive probe installation
10:50 PM TurBoss: woah true
10:51 PM Lcvette: im affraid to use the 7i77 anymore now because i don't know what other pins are busted or if that was the only damage done
10:51 PM TurBoss: :/
10:56 PM Lcvette: did you do the work on settings in qtpyvcp or was that hazy?
10:56 PM Lcvette: turboss^^
10:56 PM TurBoss: ha_zzy
10:57 PM TurBoss: way may fault
10:57 PM TurBoss: I didn't notice
10:57 PM Lcvette: I dunno what he did though
10:57 PM TurBoss: i initialized a thing twice
10:57 PM TurBoss: he fixed
10:58 PM Lcvette: Dunno what that means