#hazzy Logs
Oct 13 2019
#hazzy Calendar
04:49 AM hazzy-m: morning
04:49 AM hazzy-m: Lcvette: yes, I like that
05:33 AM jthornton: morning
05:53 AM travis-ci: kcjengr/probe_basic#119 (persistent_settings - 8bd5acb : Kurt Jacobson): The build passed.
05:53 AM travis-ci: Diff view : https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/commit/8bd5acbb966a
05:53 AM travis-ci: Build details : https://travis-ci.org/kcjengr/probe_basic/builds/597224468
05:53 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Hi everyone
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06:03 AM jthornton: it's much better to copy and paste the error, screen shots are very hard to read
06:10 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Yes, but i didn't have Discord on my machine ;)
06:11 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Ahhhhh, it is my fault 🙈
06:12 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: I have already not.0 used in my main .hal .....
06:23 AM hazzy-m: Aha!
06:26 AM jthornton: https://youtu.be/R2VW0lmOZwQ
06:47 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Okaaaaay, next one 😅 qtpyvcp.timerseconds.in does not exist 🙈 It's am mess with the costom machines 🤣
06:53 AM Tom_L: that goes in the post gui i think
07:03 AM Tom_L: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/gLhUWCVjXiwrUpQfzSdNVcjs
07:05 AM Tom_L: Wandoo1980|Sebas, Lcvette added a cycle timer to the mix
07:06 AM Tom_L: you need a time.hal file in your config directory
07:06 AM End-CNC: Okay, now i'm on my machine ;)
07:06 AM End-CNC: End-CNC aka Wandoo1980 ;)
07:07 AM Tom_L: that first post is the time.hal content
07:07 AM End-CNC: The time file is in my config
07:08 AM Tom_L: in the [HAL] section of your main ini add POST_GUI = time.hal
07:08 AM Tom_L: pretty sure. doing it from memory right now...
07:09 AM End-CNC: he finds the time.hal, that's no problem;)
07:10 AM Tom_L: POST_GUIHALFILE = time.hal
07:10 AM Tom_L: POSTGUI_HALFILE = time.hal
07:10 AM End-CNC: otherwise he would have given me no error with the not
07:11 AM Tom_L: make sure those labels are the same as the qtpyvcp labels
07:11 AM End-CNC: [HAL]HALUI = haluiHALFILE = hallib/Elke_2.8.halHALFILE = hallib/xhc-whb04b-6.halHALFILE = hallib/custom.halPOSTGUI_HALFILE = hallib/time.halSHUTDOWN = hallib/shutdown.hal
07:14 AM End-CNC: in the time.hal i changed only two things
07:14 AM End-CNC: addf not.2 servo-thread
07:15 AM End-CNC: because i use not.0 and not.1 for the spindle
07:15 AM Tom_L: right
07:16 AM End-CNC: of course I have then adapted in the other lines
07:16 AM End-CNC: and I commented out loadrt not
07:17 AM End-CNC: because it is already loaded
07:23 AM End-CNC: then I still had a collision with the "halui.program.is-idle" because i use the whb04b handwheel. but thats no problem. For this try i commented out
07:23 AM Tom_L: no, you don't need to do that
07:23 AM Tom_L: just add not.2.in to that line
07:23 AM Tom_L: and comment it out in time.hal
07:23 AM End-CNC: Thats the line in my time.hal
07:23 AM End-CNC: net prog-running not.2.in <= halui.program.is-idle
07:23 AM Tom_L: ok
07:23 AM End-CNC: and i commented out in the xhb.hal ;)
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07:23 AM End-CNC: because halui.program.is-idle is already used in the xhb.hal
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07:25 AM Tom_L: and put that last line in your main .ini file
07:26 AM Tom_L: (change your path to suit)
07:27 AM End-CNC: yes, that is exactly what i did. That's my .ini files
07:27 AM End-CNC: HALUI = halui
07:27 AM End-CNC: HALFILE = hallib/Elke_2.8.hal
07:27 AM End-CNC: HALFILE = hallib/xhc-whb04b-6.hal
07:28 AM End-CNC: HALFILE = hallib/custom.hal
07:28 AM End-CNC: POSTGUI_HALFILE = hallib/time.hal
07:28 AM End-CNC: SHUTDOWN = hallib/shutdown.hal
07:29 AM End-CNC: the see also very good from this teil have the debug read and everything changed
07:30 AM End-CNC: also that I do not have to load "not" anymore and so on
07:30 AM Tom_L: yes because you did that in the main hal
07:31 AM End-CNC: the new error is this
07:33 AM End-CNC: time.hal:11: Pin 'qtpyvcp.timersecond.in' does not exist
07:33 AM Tom_L: remove the 'r'
07:33 AM Tom_L: in timer
07:35 AM End-CNC: Unfortunately this resulted in the same mistake
07:36 AM Tom_L: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/gLhUWCVjXiwrUpQfzSdNVcjs
07:36 AM Tom_L: check all your label names
07:36 AM Tom_L: it must be something like that
07:37 AM Tom_L: bbl
08:09 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: 🤔 i have a look in the hal show
08:11 AM hazzy-m: Yes, see what shows up in halshow
08:11 AM * hazzy-m is on the way to Pittsburgh
08:13 AM End-CNC: okay, i have a qtpyvcp in the "components" section
08:15 AM End-CNC: but not in the "pins" section as i expected
08:18 AM hazzy-m: Hmmm
08:18 AM hazzy-m: Did you updated probe basic?
08:19 AM hazzy-m: Sounds like you might have the old UI file
08:19 AM End-CNC: as Lcvette said, yes
08:20 AM End-CNC: i will try another thing, wait a minute
08:24 AM End-CNC: okay, that wasn't
08:24 AM End-CNC: it
08:25 AM End-CNC: I made another git pull in the folder qtpyvcp
08:26 AM End-CNC: and copied it into my config
08:53 AM End-CNC: okay, I've discovered an anomaly there
08:54 AM End-CNC: I call the qtpyvcp in the ini with this:
08:54 AM End-CNC: DISPLAY = qtpyvcp
08:55 AM End-CNC: VCP = probebasic
08:56 AM End-CNC: in the xyzab.ini it is call DISPLAY = probe_basic
08:57 AM End-CNC: But that's doesn't not work in my case
09:04 AM End-CNC: okay, enough for today ^^ one last question: Did i need the time.hal or can in commented out? with the outcommented time.hal the probe basic works ^^ Or is it something for safety?
09:14 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: you need to use probe_basic
09:15 AM Lcvette: the other is a very outdated version soon too be removed from qtpyvcp
09:15 AM Lcvette: the config needs to be moved from the probe_basic folder
09:15 AM Lcvette: it has the time.hal in the hallib folder and will work
09:16 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: hmm, okay. Unfortunately that does not work. Then I only get error messages
09:16 AM Lcvette: what error messages?
09:16 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: but then there may already be the error.
09:17 AM Lcvette: we can fix the error messages
09:17 AM Lcvette: but you NEED to be running the latest probe_basic
09:17 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: many bug reports from the .py but I just can not say exactly what
09:17 AM Lcvette: qtpyvcp version was discontinued a month ago
09:18 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Okay, i will make me a coffee and than i will try it out
09:18 AM Lcvette: i just poured my first cup of the day
09:18 AM Lcvette: \o/
09:24 AM * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2019-10-13_10-17-55.png (61KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/JGqbSrqNCFuvdYcGAgBFxAdi >
09:24 AM Lcvette: Wandoo1980 | Sebastian | End-CNC: ^^^ this should be your hallib folder from probe_basic pull
09:25 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: yes, but with my own custom .hal
09:25 AM Lcvette: correct
09:26 AM Lcvette: i mean t the time.hal
09:26 AM Lcvette: to remove the error message
09:26 AM Lcvette: that is for the cycle timer counter that counts the program run time
09:26 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: yes, that is in the hallib folder
09:27 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: i called it in the .ini
09:27 AM Lcvette: then in the ini:
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09:28 AM Lcvette: except with your own hal calls but POSTGUI_HAL = time.hal
09:28 AM Lcvette: make sure the path is correct on your machine
09:28 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: yes, that's what i did
09:29 AM Lcvette: ok
09:29 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Than i have to change not.0 to not.2
09:29 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: because in my main .hal i used it 😉 i also increased the counter of not
09:30 AM Lcvette: ah ok
09:31 AM Lcvette: maybe turboss can chime in
09:31 AM Lcvette: that may be why the error messages
09:32 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: in the first lines of the time.hal seems everything is fine yet
09:33 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: time.hal:11: Pin 'qtpyvcp.timersecond.in' does not exist
09:33 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: that's the error i have now
09:36 AM * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2019-10-13_10-30-00.png (7KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/CXjrLpCkyYWIyiccIyKrENtH >
09:36 AM Lcvette: this is the connection there
09:37 AM Lcvette: in the halfile did you change all of the timer.0.
09:37 AM Lcvette: ?
09:38 AM Lcvette: hopefully turboss arrives soon he can guide the fix here as he made the timer
09:38 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: like in the original time.hal
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09:40 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: that's my time.hal on the machine
09:42 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: in the hal show, i searched the pin qtpyvcp but i didn't find it
09:43 AM Lcvette: hazzy how is your flight
09:43 AM Lcvette: o/
09:43 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: in the components section i have the qtpyvcp 🤔
09:44 AM Lcvette: can you ubuntu paste your hal file?
09:44 AM Lcvette: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
09:46 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: done
09:46 AM Lcvette: Copy the link here afterward
09:47 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: Wie Sie sehen können, bin ich kein gebürtiger Programmierer. 🙈
09:47 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JQtbjzQGz3/
09:47 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: ups
09:47 AM Lcvette: 😮
09:48 AM Lcvette: No spekin ze deutch
09:48 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: as you can see, i am not a native programmer 😂 🙈
09:48 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: hehe
09:48 AM Lcvette: Me eithwr
09:48 AM Lcvette: Either
09:49 AM Lcvette: Lol
09:52 AM Wandoo1980|Sebas: so i go back to the machine and try probe_basic in the .ini 🙈 i have not a good feeling about that 😅
09:53 AM Lcvette: why so?
09:57 AM End-CNC: because of this ^^
09:58 AM End-CNC: Debug file information:Note: Using POSIX realtimeTraceback (most recent call last): File "/home/elke/.local/bin/probe_basic", line 11, in <module> load_entry_point('probe-basic', 'gui_scripts', 'probe_basic')() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 561, in load_entry_point return
09:58 AM End-CNC: get_distribution(dist).load_entry_point(group, name) File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2631, in load_entry_point return ep.load() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2291, in load return self.resolve() File
09:58 AM End-CNC: "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.py", line 2297, in resolve module = __import__(self.module_name, fromlist=['__name__'], level=0)ImportError: No module named probe_basic33833444Stopping realtime threadsUnloading hal componentsNote: Using POSIX realtime
09:58 AM End-CNC: hmpf, okaaaaay. IRC didn't post it right ^^
09:59 AM Lcvette: use ``` in front of the message entry
09:59 AM Lcvette: it will keep the formatting
10:00 AM Lcvette: post your ini file on ubuntu
10:00 AM Lcvette: https://paste.ubuntu.com/
10:01 AM End-CNC: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w6k7VxXWN3/
10:01 AM End-CNC: hehe
10:01 AM End-CNC: done ;)
10:03 AM Lcvette: the config files is copied from probe basic?
10:03 AM Lcvette: probe_basic directory and not qtpyvcp?
10:04 AM End-CNC: yes
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10:06 AM * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2019-10-13_11-00-02.png (65KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zjeHmLEtHqYWcszicxHqSVwU >
10:06 AM Lcvette: this would be incorrect
10:06 AM Lcvette: ^^^
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10:07 AM Lcvette: this one would be correct^^^
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10:08 AM Lcvette: this one would be correct
10:08 AM Lcvette: ^^^
10:08 AM End-CNC: exactly
10:08 AM Lcvette: ok
10:08 AM End-CNC: home/elke/probe_basic/config/xyzab/
10:09 AM End-CNC: that is my path ;)
10:09 AM Lcvette: yes copy that to the linuxcnc config directory
10:09 AM End-CNC: home/elke/Schreibtisch/Elke_2.8/
10:09 AM End-CNC: thats it now
10:10 AM Lcvette: linuxcnc
10:10 AM Lcvette: is Schreibtisch linuxcnc?
10:11 AM Lcvette: ubuntu paste your ini file
10:11 AM End-CNC: wait a minute i see there something special...... for me........
10:12 AM Lcvette: :o
10:12 AM End-CNC: the path i show you is the path on my desktop
10:12 AM End-CNC: it is a link to this
10:12 AM End-CNC: home/elke/linuxcnc/configs/Elke_2.8/
10:13 AM Lcvette: yes you need to copy the probe_basic config file there
10:13 AM Lcvette: or whats in the config file
10:14 AM Lcvette: home/elke/linuxcnc/configs/Elke_2.8/probe_basic files
10:14 AM End-CNC: okay, it seems there is no problem with this. Only the path is shown different
10:14 AM Lcvette: turboss halp
10:15 AM Lcvette: lol
10:15 AM Lcvette: ImportError: No module named probe_basic
10:15 AM Lcvette: this is the issue
10:15 AM Lcvette: its a path issue
10:15 AM Tom_L: if he did a git pull, timeseconds and timerseconds do not match acording to the time.hal he posted
10:16 AM Lcvette: Tom_L: \o/
10:16 AM Tom_L: unless you're beyond that already
10:16 AM Lcvette: the hal wizard is here
10:16 AM Lcvette: im struggling to find the issue
10:16 AM Lcvette: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w6k7VxXWN3/
10:16 AM Lcvette: thats the debug
10:16 AM Tom_L: i posted ALL the screen shots necessary to fix it earlier
10:16 AM Lcvette: he had been running on the qtpyvcp probebasic
10:16 AM Lcvette: whioch is the old one
10:17 AM Tom_L: except maybe your probe_basic version issues
10:17 AM Lcvette: where?
10:17 AM Tom_L: scroll back
10:17 AM End-CNC: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2qzJJKDS4d/
10:17 AM End-CNC: this is my ini
10:20 AM Tom_L: #POSTGUI_HALFILE = hallib/time.hal
10:20 AM Tom_L: is commented
10:20 AM Lcvette: Wandoo1980 | Sebastian | End-CNC: did you do cd probe_basic and git pull
10:20 AM End-CNC: yes ^^
10:20 AM Lcvette: ?
10:20 AM End-CNC: yes
10:21 AM Lcvette: Tom_L: timersecond is correct
10:21 AM Lcvette: not in yours because you did your own
10:21 AM End-CNC: it is commented because than i can run probe basic
10:21 AM Lcvette: but my edits are what get distributed
10:21 AM End-CNC: but the old version
10:21 AM Lcvette: if you removed the r from timersecond timerminute timerhour you need to replace
10:22 AM Tom_L: net cycle-seconds qtpyvcp.timerseconds.in <= time.0.seconds
10:22 AM Tom_L: is timeseconds in probe_basic
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10:23 AM Tom_L: unless you changed it
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10:24 AM Lcvette: it is changed
10:24 AM Lcvette: in mine
10:24 AM Lcvette: but for everyone else it will just be the norm
10:26 AM Lcvette: i thnk the main issue here is he has somehow maybe pulled to the wrong directory
10:26 AM Lcvette: i think he pulled inside qtpyvcp maybe
10:26 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: do you have a qtpyvcp directory AND a probe_basic directory in your home directory?
10:27 AM Tom_L: something is pooched because in my probe_basic timerseconds but in my time.hal timeseconds
10:27 AM End-CNC: yes and i copyed the files from the probe_basic folder
10:27 AM Tom_L: you must stop moving files around!
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10:28 AM Tom_L: i have 2 time.hal files now
10:28 AM Lcvette: you did not pull into qtpyvcp did you?
10:28 AM Lcvette: remove the old one
10:28 AM Tom_L: no sir i'm aware
10:28 AM Lcvette: that was for tom_l
10:28 AM Tom_L: you must stop moving files around!
10:29 AM Tom_L: TurBoss had me put it in the ini directory when i made mine
10:29 AM Lcvette: he had me change the names
10:29 AM Lcvette: so....
10:29 AM Lcvette: heh
10:29 AM Lcvette: just so haopopens my repository gets distributed
10:30 AM Lcvette: so you got pooched on the update
10:30 AM Lcvette: but thats only because you are on the inside tom_l
10:30 AM Lcvette: lol
10:30 AM End-CNC: okay, that gets complicated, I think. is there a way to make a clean installation. so delete everything old
10:30 AM Tom_L: good to know now. i'v been giving out wrong help
10:30 AM * Tom_L dissappears
10:30 AM Lcvette: turboss or hazzy i think would know how
10:31 AM Lcvette: yeah it is confusing
10:31 AM Lcvette: Tom_L: :o
10:31 AM Tom_L: End-CNC better keep your original ini
10:31 AM Lcvette: more than wandoo?
10:31 AM Tom_L: and hal
10:32 AM Lcvette: this is why removing probe basic from qtpyvcp was a mistake
10:32 AM Lcvette: it is going to wreak havoc on the end users
10:32 AM Tom_L: whoz idea was that?
10:32 AM Lcvette: having to update two repositories
10:32 AM Lcvette: and keep everything straight
10:34 AM Lcvette: Turboss and hazzy
10:34 AM Lcvette: I was against it
10:34 AM Tom_L: typically on a normal install all the config files will go in the same folder as the main .ini file .
10:35 AM Tom_L: then you know where to go to edit them
10:35 AM Tom_L: instead of hunting
10:36 AM Lcvette: In this case I think wando got pulled probe basic I side the qtpyvcp got pulled folder
10:37 AM Lcvette: At least I suspect from a directory picture he posted
10:37 AM Tom_L: for all i know he is using it on a machine and has a custom config file. telling him to delete it all is a bad idea
10:37 AM Tom_L: Lcvette delete your probe_basic directory now!
10:37 AM Tom_L: then git pull
10:38 AM End-CNC: soooooo ^^
10:41 AM Tom_L: you could use all your machine settings!
10:41 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: growing pains
10:41 AM Tom_L: loose*
10:41 AM End-CNC: i deleted all files in my config from the probe_basic
10:41 AM Tom_L: hope you kept any that were specific to your machine
10:41 AM End-CNC: yes for sure ;)
10:41 AM Tom_L: telling a noob to do that could be a disaster
10:41 AM Tom_L: </rant>
10:41 AM End-CNC: hehe
10:41 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: ok so you saved your config files for you machine somewhere
10:41 AM End-CNC: okay, now i will make a new try ^^
10:41 AM Lcvette: i think at this point the best way to proceed is to delete the qtpyvcp directory and the probe_basic directory
10:41 AM Lcvette: and do a fresh install pull
10:41 AM End-CNC: a complete backup from the config Elke2.8
10:41 AM End-CNC: yes
10:43 AM End-CNC: yes, i deleted both
10:43 AM Lcvette: lets go one step at a time
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10:45 AM End-CNC: git clone https://github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp qtpyvcp ....... done ;)
10:45 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: so follow the install instructions from step 5
10:45 AM Lcvette: continue the rest of the installation instruction to the end
10:45 AM End-CNC: cd qtpyvcp ...... done :P
10:46 AM End-CNC: ;)
10:46 AM End-CNC: pip install --editable . ..... also done ^^
10:46 AM Lcvette: be sure to log off and back in after you do the last copy paste in step 5
10:48 AM End-CNC: Who is this sudo? XD
10:49 AM Lcvette: :o
10:50 AM Lcvette: that is root priveledge
10:50 AM Lcvette: use your password for login
10:50 AM End-CNC: git clone https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.git
10:50 AM End-CNC: done
10:51 AM Lcvette: for next step in main terminal do cd probe_basic
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10:51 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: ^^^
10:51 AM End-CNC: yes i did ;)
10:51 AM Lcvette: NOT inside qtpyvcp
10:52 AM Lcvette: ok
10:52 AM End-CNC: As shown in point 7 ;)
10:53 AM Lcvette: ok good!
10:53 AM End-CNC: cp -r ~/probe_basic/probe_basic/fonts/ ~/.local/share/
10:55 AM End-CNC: so no i have to copy the files from this folder
10:55 AM Lcvette: ?
10:55 AM End-CNC: home/elke/probe_basic/
10:55 AM Lcvette: the next line is copying the files to linuxcnc config for you
10:55 AM End-CNC: yes
10:56 AM Lcvette: just leave it as is
10:56 AM Lcvette: copy and paste
10:56 AM Lcvette: it will find the directory
10:56 AM Lcvette: thats what the ~/ does
10:56 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: ^^^
10:57 AM Lcvette: cp -r ~/probe_basic/config/xyzab/ ~/linuxcnc/configs/
10:57 AM Lcvette: just like that
10:57 AM Lcvette: copy and paste
10:57 AM Lcvette: don't deviate
10:58 AM End-CNC: for sure but i have to comment one line in the xhb04b.hal
10:59 AM Lcvette: skip step 8
10:59 AM Lcvette: for some reason that got left in there
10:59 AM Lcvette: i will remove
11:01 AM End-CNC: Bähm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:01 AM End-CNC: now i can use DISPLAY = probe_basic in my .ini
11:01 AM Lcvette: works?
11:02 AM Lcvette: \o/
11:02 AM End-CNC: and i have the Timer between power and e-stop
11:02 AM End-CNC: Yes
11:02 AM Lcvette: \o/
11:02 AM Lcvette: hurray!
11:02 AM Lcvette: now you have the latest version of probe basic!
11:02 AM End-CNC: what a day D: '=D
11:02 AM Lcvette: mo betta!
11:02 AM Lcvette: we did it wandoo!
11:03 AM Lcvette: lol
11:03 AM Lcvette: now you can adjust for your machine i think
11:03 AM End-CNC: thanks for all your help!!!!!!!
11:03 AM Lcvette: yes!
11:04 AM Lcvette: now to update you will do cd probe_basic inmain temrinal and then gitpull
11:04 AM Lcvette: then in a fresh main temrinal cd qtpyvcp and git pull
11:04 AM Lcvette: you have the development install
11:05 AM Lcvette: if you make any changes to the probe_basic or qtpyvcp folders there will be a merge conflict so leave those folders alone
11:05 AM Lcvette: lol
11:05 AM Lcvette: tom_l we solved it!! was the isntallation
11:06 AM Lcvette: hopefully hazzy followed some of that and can formulate a betyter way for install
11:06 AM Lcvette: or i fear this may become a regular thing
11:06 AM End-CNC: okay :) i've tested it with my custom .hal and it runs very well (y)
11:06 AM Lcvette: \o/
11:06 AM Lcvette: hurray!
11:06 AM End-CNC: lol
11:07 AM Tom_L: this is bad having a dev install for end users since all changes will pooch a git pull
11:07 AM End-CNC: .....or i fear this may become a regular thing :')
11:07 AM Lcvette: so now you also have all the probe routines with the safeties
11:08 AM Lcvette: as long as they are truly end users, the configs are automatically copied to their lionuxcnc directory so they are left untouched in the probe_basic and qtpyvcp directories and should be fine for update gitpulls
11:08 AM End-CNC: great :D safeties for the d.a.u :')
11:08 AM Lcvette: but yes we need to resolve the original install method soon
11:08 AM Lcvette: End-CNC: \o/
11:08 AM End-CNC: D.A.U = Dümmst anzunehmender User
11:09 AM End-CNC: or in english
11:09 AM Lcvette: the traverse speed of the probe is now tied to the max velocity slider
11:09 AM End-CNC: most stupid user to be accepted
11:10 AM Tom_L: put all changes in an update file
11:10 AM Tom_L: new since 0.0.6 new since 0.0.7
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11:11 AM Lcvette: this slider controls the probe traverse speed now
11:11 AM Lcvette: End-CNC:
11:11 AM Lcvette: ^^^
11:11 AM End-CNC: perfect i will try the probe now
11:11 AM Lcvette: Tom_L: yes!
11:12 AM Lcvette: \o/
11:17 AM Lcvette: Tom_L (@freenode_Tom_L:matrix.org): I think with the new persistent settings hazzy is almost do e with, we will be able to pull most everything out of the ini file so updates as well as initial install won't be so difficult
11:20 AM Lcvette: Will make gui related settings built into the gui rather than dictated by ini settings
11:20 AM Lcvette: As it should be
11:22 AM Lcvette: For sliders, backplot settings, etc
11:24 AM Lcvette: Would be nice if the timer could also be done without separate Hal file
11:24 AM Lcvette: Or need to adjust halfile
11:24 AM Lcvette: Make it so only non primary config files were updated
11:25 AM Lcvette: So no way to overwrite people's custom files
11:25 AM Lcvette: Like you said that is a bit scary
11:29 AM End-CNC: Okay, the machine is moving, the handwheel works
11:30 AM Lcvette: \o/
11:30 AM Lcvette: thats great news
11:30 AM End-CNC: the probe is in the machine X)
11:30 AM Lcvette: :o
11:31 AM End-CNC: now i will push some buttons XD
11:33 AM Lcvette: :o
11:33 AM End-CNC: hmmm, nothing moves '=D
11:34 AM Lcvette: load probe tool?
11:38 AM End-CNC: yes
11:38 AM End-CNC: i have changed it to tool 99
11:39 AM End-CNC: G43 is on
11:41 AM Lcvette: i pulled and tested in probe basic and all is working in sim
11:42 AM End-CNC: Is the probe NC or NO?
11:43 AM End-CNC: Or doesn't matter?
11:43 AM Lcvette: that is strictly in your hal file setup
11:43 AM Lcvette: linuxcnc knows when its tripped based on your hal input definition
11:43 AM Lcvette: some will be no some nc
11:43 AM Lcvette: either way linuxcnc knows when the signal has been triggered
11:44 AM Lcvette: so you must make for you own setup
11:44 AM End-CNC: okay, because i doesn't change anything about that
11:44 AM Lcvette: machine is homed?
11:44 AM End-CNC: The signal is still visible in the hal show
11:44 AM End-CNC: for sure ;)
11:44 AM Lcvette: check the status page
11:44 AM Lcvette: is there any errors?
11:45 AM End-CNC: nope
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11:46 AM End-CNC: exactly
11:46 AM Lcvette: hmmm
11:48 AM Lcvette: and your probe tool is set to 99 in the probing parameters?
11:48 AM Lcvette: and in the tool tabloe?
11:48 AM Lcvette: table
11:48 AM Lcvette: table
11:48 AM Lcvette: * and in the tool table?
11:49 AM Lcvette: hub
11:49 AM End-CNC: yes both was 99
11:49 AM End-CNC: i try something
11:50 AM End-CNC: i open linuxcnc in the console
11:50 AM Lcvette: oh check your ini filer paths
11:50 AM Lcvette: for subroutines
11:50 AM End-CNC: ahhhhhh
11:50 AM End-CNC: that i didn't yet
11:51 AM Lcvette: they need to point to /home/chris/linuxcnc/configs/xyzab/subroutines/
11:51 AM Lcvette: ah ha
11:51 AM Lcvette: that would be it i think
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11:55 AM Tom_L: hazzy-m's havin fun now!
11:56 AM End-CNC: that was it ;)
11:56 AM Lcvette: \o/ victory!
11:56 AM Lcvette: Hurray!
11:56 AM Lcvette: hazzy that some big stuff you are moving around
11:56 AM Lcvette: lol
11:56 AM End-CNC: ohhhhhh yes =D
11:57 AM Lcvette: \o/ probing?
11:57 AM End-CNC: I have to make dinner first, otherwise the woman will be impatient :')
11:58 AM Lcvette: lol
11:58 AM Lcvette: ok go eat
11:58 AM Lcvette: otherwise she may say no to another kind of probing
11:58 AM Lcvette: lol
11:58 AM End-CNC: Thanks again for your help
11:58 AM End-CNC: :')
11:59 AM Lcvette: of course! let me know how it goes and if the safeties are as you would expect
11:59 AM Lcvette: just know that if it trips from safety stop you must restart the system
11:59 AM Lcvette: or rehome the system
11:59 AM End-CNC: Tomorrow i will test a little bit more
11:59 AM End-CNC: okay
12:00 PM End-CNC: have a nice day :)
12:34 PM Lcvette: you too
01:34 PM hazzy-m: 3 of 12 trucks unloaded
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02:12 PM hazzy-m: Union idiots
02:42 PM JT-Shop: stop being so nice...
02:57 PM hazzy-m: LoL
02:58 PM hazzy-m: They still haven't figured out how to get it up there with 8 guys and there forklifts
03:02 PM jthornton: and naturally you can't tell them how
03:06 PM hazzy-m: Well if you try telling them how then they certainly won't do it that way, so it's best to just let the fight it out among themselves and hope they eventually come up with something that works
03:06 PM hazzy-m: At least they haven't dropped a machine yet...
03:30 PM JT[m]: is that the sheet storage?
03:39 PM TurBoss: hello
03:39 PM hazzy-m: JT: yes, for demo parts
03:40 PM TurBoss: > At least they haven't dropped a machine yet...
03:40 PM TurBoss: good
03:40 PM TurBoss: :P
03:45 PM Tom_itx: yet.
03:45 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
03:51 PM JT-Shop: 6 minutes at 355f is almost enough but for sure the sheet needs drying first
03:51 PM Tom_L: 6 min?
03:51 PM Tom_L: i thought you went 20 already
03:54 PM JT-Shop: on the first part yea and it was a glob of plastic
03:54 PM JT-Shop: I need to rig up a horz rack
03:58 PM Tom_L: maybe the oven wasn't up to temp the first try
04:00 PM JT-Shop: it was up to temp but I had the part up high and kept looking...
04:00 PM Tom_L: oh
04:01 PM Tom_L: so 5-6 min is more realistic
04:01 PM JT-Shop: yea, the edges were not hot and my wood frame sorta warped so I could not get a seal
04:02 PM JT-Shop: the center was up to temp
04:02 PM Tom_L: you need even heat
04:02 PM JT-Shop: yea, I'm finding that out
04:03 PM JT-Shop: I guess I need a metal frame I guess
04:03 PM Tom_L: with grips
04:04 PM Tom_L: so when the frame gets hot it doesn't slip out of the frame on vacuum
04:04 PM JT-Shop: grips?
04:04 PM Tom_L: well i'd just try a good metal frame first
04:05 PM JT-Shop: steel?
04:05 PM Tom_L: probably or alum
04:05 PM Tom_L: steel would probably warp less
04:08 PM Tom_L: and you probably have an abundance of that
04:08 PM JT-Shop: maybe some 1 1/2" angle for the frame
04:08 PM Tom_L: yeah
04:08 PM JT-Shop: and some flat stock to clamp it down
04:08 PM JT-Shop: I'll get more material tomorrow and build a metal frame
04:15 PM JT-Shop: the part may be too big for a 12" x 12" sheet too
04:18 PM JT-Shop: I wonder if there is an easier plastic to thermoform
04:18 PM Tom_L: what'd you make the mold from?
04:19 PM Tom_L: naw, lexan works ok
04:19 PM JT-Shop: wood
04:20 PM Tom_L: positive or negative mold?
04:21 PM Tom_L: mound or a hole?
04:21 PM Tom_L: hole would probably make the center thinner
04:21 PM JT-Shop: positive
04:21 PM Tom_L: i haven't done much of it really
04:22 PM Tom_L: i think you're better off with a positive
04:22 PM Tom_L: where it attaches will be thicker probably
04:28 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/spyder/rain-guard/rg-fail-01.jpg
04:28 PM JT-Shop: https://gnipsel.com/images/spyder/rain-guard/rg-fail-02.jpg
04:29 PM JT-Shop: got any examples of frames and grips?
04:30 PM Tom_L: you might need some pinholes in the top of the mold. the porous wood could be enough
04:30 PM Tom_L: i think what you did was fine
04:30 PM Tom_L: you need a better seal
04:30 PM JT-Shop: the top of the vacuum box is pegboard
04:30 PM JT-Shop: it used to seal till the wood dried out and twisted lol
04:31 PM Tom_L: you might need smaller holes around the actual part if you need any at all or they will dimple the inside
04:32 PM JT-Shop: the part is flush with the bottom of the wood part
04:32 PM JT-Shop: anything that contacts the pegboard is scrap
04:33 PM Tom_L: it should work ok like it is if you can get a good seal
04:34 PM JT-Shop: I'll do some more testing tomorrow, build a metal frame and a horz rack for the kiln
04:35 PM Tom_L: ok one guy used those metal paper clips around the edge
04:35 PM Tom_L: looks like a good idea
04:35 PM JT-Shop: and try drying
04:35 PM Tom_L: those 1.5" wide ones
04:35 PM JT-Shop: he must have used a lot
04:36 PM Tom_L: trying to get a shot of it so you don't have to watch the whole yt
04:36 PM Tom_L: most of it is a waste of time
04:40 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/vacuum_fixture.jpg
04:42 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/vacuum_fixture2.jpg
04:43 PM Tom_L: he does it with the pump on
04:44 PM Tom_L: pull it from the oven and stick it right over the mold and hold it tight
04:44 PM Tom_L: uses pegboard like you did
04:44 PM Tom_L: i think your current setup is probably adequate
04:45 PM Tom_L: just wear gloves and push the perimeter down on the fixture
04:46 PM JT-Shop: yea that second photo explains it better it's back to back angle with clips to hold it
04:46 PM JT-Shop: I can do that easy enough, and much simpler that what I thought of
04:46 PM Tom_L: he did another one with a flat metal frame
04:47 PM Tom_L: still watching...
04:48 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/vacuum_fixture3.jpg
04:50 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/vacuum_fixture4.jpg
04:52 PM JT-Shop: I think the angle one looks better
04:52 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/JT-SHOP/vacuum_fixture5.jpg
04:52 PM JT-Shop: time to spoil the chickens a bit
04:53 PM Tom_L: that one is on a frame and he drops it from the heater above it straight down to the mold
04:53 PM JT-Shop: post the link and I'll watch it in the morning
04:53 PM Tom_L: i'll post the yt so you can see it
04:54 PM Tom_L: he's using thinner plastic though
04:54 PM Tom_itx: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ynFpxokWlM
05:05 PM jthornton: I'll watch that and some others in the morning during free time
05:06 PM jthornton: one thing I noticed is the kiln kinda overshoots the temp for a few minutes, so I'll give it 5 minutes to stabilize and I guess drying the material would help too
05:14 PM Tom_L: the last one in the yt he has a heater above i believe and a box frame with the mold at the bottom
05:14 PM Tom_L: when he starts the frame is at the top under the heater then he just slides it straight down quickly
05:14 PM Tom_L: some use toaster ovens
05:15 PM Tom_L: which is what my bud used
05:15 PM Tom_L: but smaller parts
05:17 PM Tom_L: now the rest of you know how to do probe_basic and vacuum molding :)
05:17 PM jthornton: if it would fit in a toaster oven that would be better
05:17 PM Tom_L: yeah, mine has elements top and bottom, 4 total
05:17 PM Tom_L: more uniform heat
05:17 PM Tom_L: set up for soldering though
05:17 PM jthornton: I don't think mine is deep enough, I'll have to check
05:18 PM Tom_L: just a tiny bit small i bet
05:20 PM jthornton: which oven do you have?
05:23 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/toaster_oven/toaster_oven_index.php
05:23 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/toaster_oven/oven.jpg
05:23 PM Tom_L: the timer is disabled
05:24 PM Tom_L: i turn it all the way up and use my avr timer
05:24 PM Tom_L: with a PT100 sensor inside
05:24 PM jthornton: prob not deep enough for what I need
05:27 PM jthornton: hmmm if I use 1/2" angle for the frame then the overall size would be 12" x 12" plus the clip
05:29 PM Tom_L: need enough room for a seal
05:33 PM Tom_L: i think those clips is a good idea
05:33 PM Tom_L: keep constant pressure on the edges
05:35 PM jthornton: I have a bunch of them somewhere...
05:35 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cacr1WeKOzY
05:35 PM Tom_L: Adam Savage does a pretty good one
05:35 PM Tom_L: he probably bought his though
05:35 PM jthornton: my box is 13 1/2" square with 3/8" around the edge so for a frame made of angle I'll have to add a strip of weatherstrip around the edges
05:36 PM jthornton: I added it to my watch list
05:36 PM Tom_L: a 1600w electric space heater would be ideal for a top mount heater
05:37 PM Tom_L: just mod it a bit
05:37 PM Tom_L: remove the tip over switch for sure :)
05:38 PM jthornton: yea
05:41 PM jthornton: at least the kiln I can have a dry time at 250f then ramp it up to 350f
05:41 PM Tom_L: yeah
05:42 PM Tom_L: my reflow oven had a low temp bake before reflow too
05:44 PM jthornton: I wonder if you store the polycarbonate in a vacuum it would draw the moisture out?
05:44 PM jthornton: http://highlinepc.blogspot.com/2010/04/temperatures-for-thermoforming.html
05:45 PM jthornton: this cat say drying is not necessary for low temp forming but it is, I proved that today
05:46 PM Tom_L: or bag it in some silica packs
05:48 PM Tom_L: too bad you're not here, there's a plastics place not far from here i just go in the back and get the scraps i need
05:48 PM jthornton: I have a huge box of desiccant
05:49 PM jthornton: that would be nice
05:49 PM Tom_L: usually can find something close to the right size
05:49 PM jthornton: http://www.plasticsmag.com/thermoforming.asp?fIssue=Mar/Apr-03
05:53 PM * jthornton checks his usage for the month...
05:53 PM Tom_L: savage may be the better of the 2 if you had to pick. i had no audio though
05:54 PM jthornton: I don't have any extra bandwith so I have to wait for morning
05:55 PM Tom_L: i'm rather sure he didn't build his though
05:55 PM jthornton: lol at the end of last month I had 3.5GB of data left
05:55 PM Tom_L: too bad it doesn't roll over
06:02 PM jthornton: I was going to make them from fiberglass but what a mess that is
06:21 PM Lcvette: Turboss is here?
06:21 PM TurBoss: o/
06:21 PM Lcvette: o/
06:23 PM TurBoss: sup
06:24 PM Lcvette: Chillin
06:25 PM Lcvette: You?
06:26 PM Lcvette: I'm bored watching tv
06:26 PM Lcvette: Wanna Dev?
06:26 PM TurBoss: I'm on deskto
06:26 PM Lcvette: \o/
06:27 PM Lcvette: Is desktop Dev?
06:27 PM TurBoss: no
06:27 PM TurBoss: :D
06:28 PM Lcvette: Lol
06:28 PM Lcvette: Desktop for Dual
06:28 PM TurBoss: i would have to reboot
06:28 PM Lcvette: `o-
06:28 PM TurBoss: but I'm doing other things
06:28 PM Lcvette: K
06:28 PM Lcvette: Lemme know if you wanna Dev later
06:28 PM TurBoss: sure
06:29 PM * TurBoss takes one cigar from Lcvette
06:29 PM TurBoss: :i
06:29 PM Lcvette: Good idea!
06:30 PM TurBoss: na... I'm building a 3d surface scanner
06:30 PM TurBoss: on the pi
06:30 PM jthornton: laser?
06:30 PM TurBoss: yes
06:31 PM jthornton: cool
06:31 PM TurBoss: it will draw tiff heightmaps
06:31 PM TurBoss: you guys gave me an idea
06:31 PM jthornton: sweet
06:31 PM TurBoss: use usb microscope
06:31 PM TurBoss: instead of a webcam
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06:32 PM TurBoss: no fidel castro ones?
06:32 PM TurBoss: :P
06:32 PM Lcvette: No these are from the Dominican republic
06:32 PM TurBoss: i saw
06:32 PM TurBoss: XD
06:33 PM * jthornton can't wait till Tuesday to get the tablet for the camera drone...
06:34 PM TurBoss: nic
06:34 PM TurBoss: * nice
06:34 PM jthornton: did you see the first videos?
06:34 PM TurBoss: no
06:34 PM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxD19p3iPOw
06:35 PM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2VW0lmOZwQ
06:35 PM jthornton: just putzing around and using my galaxy s4 as the interface
06:35 PM TurBoss: nice cam
06:35 PM jthornton: and trying to learn the dji go software
06:36 PM jthornton: https://www.dji.com/phantom-3-pro
06:36 PM jthornton: that's the bird
06:37 PM TurBoss: its big
06:37 PM jthornton: not really that big, used came with the backpack
06:38 PM jthornton: maybe 12" across not counting the props
06:38 PM TurBoss: cool
06:38 PM jthornton: Diagonal Size (Propellers Excluded) 350 mm
06:38 PM TurBoss: normal big
06:38 PM TurBoss: lol
06:39 PM jthornton: yea been wanting something like that for a while and a guy at a motorcycle benefit run had one
06:39 PM jthornton: it flies better than all my other drones
06:40 PM * Tom_L fears jthornton is building a drone army
06:41 PM TurBoss: hohoh
06:41 PM TurBoss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvemT96Rozc
06:44 PM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRrjvOi_dFA
06:44 PM jthornton: out of data for the day, I'll have to watch in the mornin
06:44 PM Tom_L: pretty cool
06:44 PM TurBoss: bye
06:45 PM TurBoss: ooh
06:46 PM jthornton: looks like the hens are on the roost...
06:50 PM Lcvette: jthornton: do you have to register them now?
09:36 PM Lcvette: \o/
09:36 PM Lcvette: My buddy installed probe basic, have great reviews
09:37 PM Lcvette: Shoot shoot. Another Mach 3 convert
09:37 PM Lcvette: Lol
09:38 PM Lcvette: Whoot whoot. Another Mach 3 convert
09:38 PM Lcvette: \o/
09:41 PM Tom_L: the one here earlier?
09:42 PM Lcvette: No
09:43 PM Lcvette: He isn't in here yet
09:43 PM Lcvette: He's one of my g0704 buddies
09:43 PM Lcvette: We have a chat group on skype
09:44 PM Lcvette: 2more are wanting to switch over as well
09:44 PM Lcvette: Mesa sales will go up soon I think
09:52 PM Lcvette: hazzy, i saw what looked like a .deb install on qtpyvcp earlier
09:52 PM Lcvette: is that going to be a possibility ?
09:53 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: no, probably not
09:53 PM Lcvette: ok
09:53 PM hazzy-m: Unless I can find a better way to do it
09:53 PM hazzy-m: It should work but I didn't like having to use sudo
09:54 PM Lcvette: sudo is bad?
09:54 PM Lcvette: seems sudo is in lots of installations
09:55 PM Lcvette: i think the pip install is good maybe if we have a repo to just pull in the config files that aren't accessible unless cp command can copy them to the linuxcnc/config directory
09:55 PM hazzy-m: Bad for python files
09:56 PM Lcvette: ah
09:56 PM hazzy-m: Can break the system py installation, which is no bueno
09:57 PM Lcvette: do you know if we can cp the config file from its pip install location to the linuxcnc/config location?
10:20 PM Tom_L: sudo _is_ a 4 letter word...
10:26 PM Lcvette: tom_l do you know how to bypass login?
10:27 PM Tom_L: on debian?
10:27 PM Tom_L: yes
10:27 PM Lcvette: yes
10:28 PM Lcvette: i added the new test pc to my synergy multi pc mouse keyboard software, but it doesn't work until after login on linux
10:28 PM Tom_L: open 'sudo' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
10:28 PM Lcvette: forgto about that detail need to bypass login so it works
10:28 PM Tom_L: autologin-user=yourusername
10:28 PM Tom_L: autologin-user-timeout=0
10:28 PM Tom_L: make sure you pass the comment section to the 'real' section
10:29 PM Lcvette: 'sudo' /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
10:29 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: the config files aren't included with the pip install, but I can probably fix that
10:29 PM Lcvette: that doesn't work
10:29 PM Tom_L: you need an editor
10:30 PM Tom_L: sudo nano /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
10:30 PM Lcvette: i think that will save alot of hassle for those just wanting probe basic
10:30 PM Tom_L: ctrl x saves
10:30 PM Tom_L: make sure you pass the comment section to the 'real' section
10:30 PM Tom_L: make sure you pass the comment section to the 'real' section
10:30 PM Tom_L: i've made that mistake
10:31 PM Lcvette: [Tom_L](https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_Tom_L:matrix.org) cool
10:42 PM Lcvette: worked!
10:42 PM Lcvette: \o/
10:59 PM Tom_L: expected no less
11:02 PM Lcvette: tom_l you have multiple computers and monitors?
11:02 PM Lcvette: if so do you use symless by synergy?
11:02 PM Lcvette: i do and once setup properly it is fantastic
11:03 PM Lcvette: one keyboard and mouse and im running 3 computers
11:03 PM Lcvette: one windows 10 and two linux boxes
11:24 PM Lcvette: ha.. i just moved my taskbar on windows 10 to the top and set all the taskbar colors on all machines to the same color and the same background image
11:24 PM Lcvette: can hardly tell one is a windows computer now
11:24 PM Lcvette: lol