#hazzy Logs
Oct 06 2019
#hazzy Calendar
01:00 AM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 033 commits to 03offset_table [+0/-0/±4] 13https://git.io/JeClh
01:00 AM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07Lcvette 03f751071 - set stylesheet for offset table added clear all clear row buttons
01:00 AM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 03a4d166b - fix table index
01:00 AM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 030f857e5 - Merge remote-tracking branch 'Lcvette/offset_table' into offset_table
01:30 AM Lcvette: No one here today
01:30 AM Lcvette: :(
01:30 AM Lcvette: Lol
01:30 AM Lcvette: Lonely chat room
01:31 AM Lcvette: Turbos and lcvette are the party people in qtpyvcp
01:31 AM TurBoss: lol
01:31 AM TurBoss: we are late or early
01:31 AM TurBoss: :P
01:31 AM Lcvette: Lol
01:35 AM Lcvette: Ok lcvette fell asleep again wife is telling me to go to bed
01:35 AM Lcvette: Night
05:35 AM TurBoss: Good morning
05:44 AM Tom_L: morning
05:46 AM TurBoss: sup?
05:46 AM TurBoss: in the morningh
05:46 AM TurBoss: * in the morning
05:49 AM TurBoss: I managed to fix the missing row in the offset table
05:49 AM TurBoss: only save is missing
05:49 AM TurBoss: by not writing to the params file I can only think in mdi commands
05:50 AM TurBoss: any idea on how to save the offset table?
05:50 AM TurBoss: there are not enought motion pins lol
05:50 AM TurBoss: 64 max?
05:51 AM jthornton: morning
05:51 AM TurBoss: ji
05:52 AM TurBoss: Ht
05:52 AM TurBoss: lol
05:52 AM TurBoss: *Hi *Jt
05:53 AM TurBoss: jthornton: what do you think about use opencamlib for the conversational stuff
05:53 AM TurBoss: have you read somthing about?
05:55 AM jthornton: not read about it
05:56 AM TurBoss: http://www.anderswallin.net/cam/ if you are bored
05:56 AM TurBoss: :P
05:56 AM TurBoss: it uses vtk
05:56 AM TurBoss: too
05:58 AM jthornton: just waking up lol
05:58 AM Tom_L: why do you need 64?
05:59 AM TurBoss: more than
05:59 AM TurBoss: the use of motion pins to set offsets is just an idea
05:59 AM jthornton: interesting
06:00 AM TurBoss: jthornton: and has python bindings
06:00 AM TurBoss: blendercam makes use of it
06:00 AM TurBoss: and its multithreaded
06:00 AM jthornton: nice
06:01 AM TurBoss: I think I'll write a plugin
06:01 AM TurBoss: so it could be use for conversational
06:01 AM jthornton: cool
06:01 AM jthornton: I didn't know a
06:02 AM jthornton: Anders was working on a CAM project
06:02 AM TurBoss: he worked on linuxcnc
06:02 AM TurBoss: ?
06:04 AM jthornton: he has been around since the emc days
06:05 AM TurBoss: nice
06:05 AM Tom_L: he wasn't at the wichita meet was he?
06:06 AM jthornton: dunno
06:07 AM Tom_L: http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/DSC_3940.JPG
06:08 AM Tom_L: who's the guy in the orange shirt?
06:08 AM TurBoss: not me
06:08 AM TurBoss: peter
06:10 AM Tom_L: i was trying to think of the guy that had the little red mill
06:10 AM Tom_L: http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/DSC_3910.JPG
06:53 AM jthornton: you get much rain Tom_L
07:00 AM jthornton: TurBoss, by conversational do you mean more than pocket, boss, facing, and hole ops
07:00 AM jthornton: ?
07:03 AM jthornton: I would like to improve on ngcgui for my machines
08:40 AM hazzy-m: Lcvette: saweet!
08:44 AM TurBoss: morning hazzy
08:44 AM TurBoss: do you like the opencamlib plugin idea?
08:48 AM hazzy-m: TurBoss: Love it!
08:48 AM hazzy-m: just reading the docs
08:48 AM hazzy-m: and the py examples
08:48 AM TurBoss: cool!
08:49 AM TurBoss: but duno how to make distribution easy
08:49 AM TurBoss: it requires to compile it with a boost and others
08:52 AM hazzy-m: we might be able to build it on travis and have pip install it ...
08:52 AM TurBoss: oh cool!
08:53 AM TurBoss: hazzy: do you have some minutes to discuss how to save the offsets?
08:53 AM TurBoss: as far I know we can
08:53 AM TurBoss: *write back to the file
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08:57 AM TurBoss: \o/
08:59 AM TurBoss: there was a hack in the tooltable to flush the file so linuxcnc noticed the changes
08:59 AM TurBoss: maybe it can work for the params....
09:14 AM Lcvette: hazzy: hazzy \o/
09:15 AM Lcvette: TurBoss: can use rules?
09:18 AM hazzy-m: That won't work for the params since LCNC does not read them except on interp start up
09:18 AM hazzy-m: I think we have to use an MDI command
09:20 AM Lcvette: Mdi button?
09:20 AM hazzy-m: but it should be easy to do using G10 L2 X Y Z A B C U V W R
09:20 AM Lcvette: Needed to add p
09:21 AM hazzy-m: would just have to get the row and column number of the cell to know which values toput in for P and the axis letter when editing the offset
09:21 AM hazzy-m: Lcvette: Thanks! I meant to type P
09:22 AM Lcvette: Can it pull from the selected row?
09:22 AM hazzy-m: yes
09:23 AM hazzy-m: TurBoss: is there a reason that won't work?
09:24 AM TurBoss: I just didn't start
09:24 AM TurBoss: i was thinking the options
09:24 AM TurBoss: that we had
09:24 AM TurBoss: but g10 may require machine enabled or in mdi mode?
09:24 AM hazzy-m: I think using an MDI command makes the most sense
09:25 AM TurBoss: we can disable that table until homed
09:25 AM Lcvette: so for save, mdi button: G10 L2 P1 X Y Z A B C U V W R, G10 L2 P2 X Y Z A B C U V W R, so on
09:25 AM TurBoss: or what?
09:25 AM hazzy-m: yes, will require MDI mode, but it does not make any sense to change offsets at other times so thats fine
09:25 AM Lcvette: but how to pull in the data to the mdi button?
09:26 AM hazzy-m: if we use the actions mdi_command function it will automaticaly set to MDI mode and then back when it its done
09:26 AM Lcvette: rule?
09:26 AM Lcvette: and what would that look like?
09:26 AM hazzy-m: Lcvette: no MDIButton, the table cells with issue the MDI command when edited
09:26 AM hazzy-m: I can do it tonight when I get home
09:27 AM Lcvette: turboss you snuck in
09:27 AM Lcvette: \o/
09:27 AM Lcvette: hazzy sweet \o/
09:27 AM TurBoss: i can work on that latter too
09:28 AM TurBoss: im impatient to start working on the conversational stuff
09:28 AM Lcvette: what kind of button fo the mdi_command function
09:28 AM TurBoss: the table itself
09:28 AM TurBoss: will tho the mdi
09:28 AM TurBoss: on save
09:28 AM Lcvette: oh so just enter and it auto enters?
09:28 AM TurBoss: then click save
09:29 AM TurBoss: * then click save button
09:29 AM Lcvette: right
09:29 AM Lcvette: so just normal QPushButton
09:29 AM Tom_L: and poof!
09:29 AM TurBoss: yup
09:29 AM Lcvette: i was just going to put the right kind of button in place
09:29 AM TurBoss: with a signal to the table
09:29 AM Lcvette: ok so whats there is good
09:30 AM Lcvette: ok so then for clear could use the same?
09:30 AM Lcvette: but just with G10 L2 P1 X0 Y0 Z0 A0 B0 C0 U0 V0 W0 R0
09:31 AM Lcvette: maybe that needs to be an mdi button
09:31 AM Lcvette: ?
09:31 AM TurBoss: no
09:31 AM Lcvette: since it needs to write 0's
09:31 AM TurBoss: that will be what the table issues on save signal
09:32 AM Lcvette: right but im thikning ahaead now to the clearbuttons
09:32 AM TurBoss: or clear!
09:32 AM Lcvette: CLEAR, CLER ALL
09:32 AM TurBoss: also clrear selected
09:32 AM TurBoss: yup
09:32 AM TurBoss: ok /me has to run
09:32 AM TurBoss: bye
09:32 AM Lcvette: for clear it needs to issue 0's
09:32 AM Lcvette: ok
09:34 AM Lcvette: turboss, conversational sounds great!
09:34 AM Lcvette: :D
09:34 AM hazzy-m: cu
09:34 AM hazzy-m: back tonight
09:36 AM Lcvette: \o/
09:36 AM Lcvette: what time hazzy
09:36 AM Lcvette: ?
09:36 AM Lcvette: i'll be here!
09:46 AM Tom_L: i was on riot yesterday on my phone and could see everything but nothing i typed showed up here
09:59 AM Tom_itx: Lcvette, found something you can pass along
09:59 AM Tom_itx: # Force a sync of the interpreter, which writes out the var file.
09:59 AM Tom_itx: c.task_plan_synch()
09:59 AM Tom_itx: c.wait_complete()
10:00 AM Lcvette: \o/
10:00 AM Lcvette: nice find tom_itx
10:00 AM Tom_itx: 1143 of axis.py
10:01 AM Tom_itx: i think i'd try to copy how they did it since it's a proven method
10:01 AM Lcvette: hazzy you around?
10:01 AM Lcvette: need to help my buddy install and its been a disaster
10:01 AM Lcvette: we are on try number 4
10:02 AM Tom_itx: my install is a total mess right now
10:02 AM Lcvette: trying to install probe basic with development
10:02 AM Lcvette: installed qtpyvcp
10:02 AM Lcvette: tried running the development install, but can't fins the xsessionssrc folder to copy over
10:03 AM Lcvette: it is extemely confusing
10:03 AM Lcvette: he is completely frustrated
10:03 AM hazzy-m: Did you clone?
10:03 AM Lcvette: ran the entire development install page
10:03 AM Lcvette: https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com/install/quick_start.html
10:03 AM Lcvette: https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com/install/installation.html
10:04 AM Tom_L: you need to git clone for the dev install i believe
10:04 AM Lcvette: thats on the dev install page and was done
10:04 AM Lcvette: git clone https://github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp qtpyvcp
10:04 AM hazzy-m: So just copy paste the xsessionsrc file into your user bin folder
10:04 AM hazzy-m: Yes
10:05 AM hazzy-m: The xsessionrc file is in scripts, but it's a hidden file so need to hit Ctrl+h to see it
10:22 AM Lcvette: clint
10:23 AM Lcvette: cnccustoms
10:24 AM Lcvette: he quit
10:25 AM cnccustoms[m]: so I'm trying to get the dev installed...
10:25 AM Lcvette: he's back
10:25 AM Lcvette: \o/
10:25 AM Lcvette: hazzy
10:25 AM Lcvette: can you help cnccustoms get installed?
10:26 AM Lcvette: round 5
10:26 AM cnccustoms[m]: when I get to pip install -e. I get the following
10:26 AM Lcvette: ding
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10:26 AM cnccustoms[m]: tried unsinstalling and reinstalling as per Chris
10:27 AM hazzy-m: Ok, you don't have you local bin on your path
10:28 AM cnccustoms[m]: not sure I know what that means Hazzy LOL
10:29 AM hazzy-m: In your terminal run: export PATH=$PATH:~/.local/bin/
10:29 AM hazzy-m: Then pip install -e .
10:29 AM hazzy-m: No sudo
10:32 AM cnccustoms[m]: ok
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10:35 AM cnccustoms[m]: did I mess it up?
10:36 AM Lcvette: you are installing it to probe_basic folder
10:37 AM hazzy-m: Yes
10:37 AM hazzy-m: Looks like you cloned using sudo too
10:37 AM hazzy-m: Delete the probe basic folder and clone again without sudo
10:38 AM cnccustoms[m]: cant delete the folder
10:38 AM hazzy-m: right
10:38 AM cnccustoms[m]: will not allow me to
10:38 AM hazzy-m: cd ..
10:38 AM hazzy-m: sudo rm -r probe_basic
10:39 AM hazzy-m: Then clone again
10:39 AM cnccustoms[m]: yay... thanks... not the most skilled at terminal
10:40 AM hazzy-m: That’s why were here to help:)
10:40 AM cnccustoms[m]: just so theres no confusion... what exactly do I clone now?
10:41 AM Lcvette: hazzy: hen is trying to install dev so he can editvcp probe_basic
10:41 AM Lcvette: he*
10:41 AM hazzy-m: Yes
10:42 AM hazzy-m: git clone url to probe basic
10:42 AM Lcvette: whenn we used just the probe_basic web page he got the missing setup.py
10:42 AM Lcvette: bad egg info
10:43 AM hazzy-m: That’s not a problem
10:43 AM Lcvette: does he need to install qtpyvcp first?
10:44 AM TurBoss: hello
10:44 AM Lcvette: \o/ turboss is here!
10:44 AM TurBoss: with sudo that messed a bit
10:44 AM TurBoss: but can be fixed
10:45 AM TurBoss: try to remove with sudo .local/lib/python27/site-packages/qtpyvcp and probe_basic
10:45 AM TurBoss: and start over withou sudo
10:47 AM TurBoss: sorry have to go
10:48 AM cnccustoms[m]: command not found?
10:48 AM hazzy-m: cnccustoms: just just to be safe uninstall cutie pie recipe and per basic with sudo pip uninstall
10:49 AM hazzy-m: sudo rm -r .locak/...
10:49 AM hazzy-m: Sorry, trying to run and text
10:50 AM Lcvette: sudo rm -r .local/...
10:51 AM hazzy-m: But put the whole path TurBoss put
10:51 AM cnccustoms[m]: Sorry about that Hazzy
10:51 AM cnccustoms[m]: maybe later?
10:51 AM Lcvette: sudo rm -r .local/lib/python27/site-packages/qtpyvcp and probe_basic
10:51 AM TurBoss: yea latter we can help
10:51 AM TurBoss: :)
10:53 AM cnccustoms[m]: later...
10:53 AM cnccustoms[m]: enjoy the run
10:53 AM hazzy-m: I’ll take a break when I get to the top in about 1520 minutes and help them
10:53 AM cnccustoms[m]: Im going to sit around with a drink and snacks and watch a movie with the wife :)
10:54 AM Lcvette: latr guys
01:56 PM hazzy-m: cnccustoms: I'm home
02:03 PM JT-Shop: me too
02:05 PM Lcvette: He's probably asleep, he is from Capetown
02:06 PM Lcvette: Gets up early goes to bed early
02:07 PM Lcvette: Man there's got to be an easier way to install
02:07 PM Lcvette: O can't stress enough that is going to continue to be an issue for new Linux users
02:20 PM hazzy-m: It's easy to install if you follow the directions, just copy and paste...
02:21 PM hazzy-m: not sure why he used sudo with pip, but that is a big no no and is what messed everything up
02:24 PM jthornton: had a guy on the forum trying to build a realtime kernel over ssh from his mak and didn't understand why my instructions didn't work
02:37 PM Lcvette: <hazzy-m "It's easy to install if you foll"> He tried that after the initial install didn't work
02:37 PM Lcvette: That was attempt number 4 or 5
02:38 PM Lcvette: There are two Dev install directions one for qtpyvcp
02:38 PM Lcvette: One for probe basic
02:38 PM Lcvette: Even I'm not sure what's what right now
02:39 PM Lcvette: If you keep saying it's easy and people keep having issues installing
02:39 PM Lcvette: Then at some point is bound to sink in it's easy for you but maybe not others
02:39 PM jthornton: lots of people don't follow instructions well
02:40 PM Lcvette: The install instructions need to be in one place
02:40 PM jthornton: especially people who are familiar with linux in some form
02:40 PM Lcvette: Not multiple places
02:40 PM jthornton: I agree
02:40 PM Lcvette: They need to flow
02:40 PM Lcvette: Then it would be easy I think
02:41 PM jthornton: all my instructions have been tested multiple times until they work without a hitch
02:41 PM Lcvette: Even if it's long
02:41 PM Lcvette: But when I go to qtpyvcp is confusing
02:42 PM jthornton: fix it so it's not confusing
02:42 PM Lcvette: I will when I know what to do
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02:43 PM jthornton: hazzy-m, is the dev install the only one that needs to clone the repo now?
02:44 PM Lcvette: step 2 issue
02:44 PM Lcvette: think you need to direct them to clone it to a specific directory
02:44 PM Lcvette: if they know better that it can be cloned wherever they want fine if they don't you just lost someone
02:44 PM jthornton: cd qtpyvcp
02:45 PM hazzy-m: jthornton: yes, since you can install directly from PyPi or from the github repo by passing the link to pip
02:45 PM hazzy-m: they can clone it anywhere, does not matter
02:45 PM jthornton: I need to get my Mesa tools on PyPi...
02:46 PM Lcvette: if installed from the main temrinal, does it create a directory or just go to the home dir?
02:46 PM hazzy-m: jthornton: I think PyPi is actualy more difficult than a clone and dev install, at least it seems that way. Everyone wants to see where the files are lol
02:47 PM jthornton: git clone without a directory spec will create one with the same name as the repo
02:47 PM Lcvette: only because you have to copy the sim files to linuxcnc
02:47 PM jthornton: yea can't please any of them
02:47 PM Lcvette: no?
02:47 PM Lcvette: thats an issue we had with clint the first time
02:48 PM Lcvette: with the pypi install
02:48 PM Lcvette: the files were hidden
02:48 PM Lcvette: unaccessible
02:48 PM Lcvette: couldn't add to linuxcnc config to open the sim
02:48 PM hazzy-m: main terminal? Depends on were you open the terminal ...
02:49 PM Lcvette: ok so direct it to a specific temrinal
02:49 PM Lcvette: that will help torubleshoot in the future anyhow
02:49 PM hazzy-m: if you want the tiles accesable then you have to do a dev install, you should never mess with files that are in the installed software directories
02:49 PM Lcvette: there will be no guess work where people installed it
02:49 PM Lcvette: but without the files the sim was unaccessible in linuxcnc
02:50 PM Lcvette: soo...
02:50 PM Lcvette: what do you do with that?
02:51 PM Lcvette: im happy to write the install instructions
02:51 PM Lcvette: but i need t know what needs to be done and a way to make it idot proof
02:51 PM hazzy-m: Thats the disadvantage of using a non dev install, for security reasions pip won't allow installing files outside of the python lib dir
02:51 PM Lcvette: thats a technical answer
02:51 PM Lcvette: not a solution
02:51 PM Lcvette: is there a solution or no?
02:52 PM Lcvette: if not then dev install should be the only install method
02:52 PM Lcvette: until at least a solution has been found , at least i would think
02:53 PM hazzy-m: there is no solution, it's not posible AFIK, but BP will still be installed and run, it just won't copy the sim configs to the linuxcnc/configs dor
02:53 PM Lcvette: otherwise the other method won't allow new users to access the sim in linuxcnc
02:54 PM Lcvette: ok is there a way to install or get the sim configs alone without downloading the entire repo?
02:54 PM Lcvette: maybe thats a better solution?
02:55 PM jthornton: the sims could be in another repo and you say git clone xxx linuxcnc/configs
02:55 PM Lcvette: ok, that sounds like a solution
02:56 PM Lcvette: that way its a small set of files that gets delivered and we can close them directly to linuxcnc/config
02:56 PM Lcvette: ?
02:56 PM Lcvette: clone
02:56 PM Lcvette: im asking
02:56 PM Lcvette: i don't know
02:57 PM jthornton: I'm not sure what your asking
02:57 PM Lcvette: The got clone of the sim files
02:58 PM Lcvette: Can they be directed to be sent directly to linuxcnc/config/
03:00 PM hazzy-m: another solution is to add a comand to qtpyvcp
03:00 PM hazzy-m: qtpyvcp --install_configs probe_basic
03:00 PM Lcvette: Ok
03:01 PM jthornton: run this from a terminal the look in linuxcnc/configs
03:01 PM jthornton: git clone https://github.com/jethornton/qtpyvcp_configs.git linuxcnc/configs/qtpyvcp
03:02 PM Lcvette: k sek
03:03 PM jthornton: hazzy-m, https://forum.linuxcnc.org/18-computer/36879-raspberry-pi-4?start=210#147285
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03:06 PM jthornton: did you scroll down any or collapse the all up
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03:08 PM Lcvette: i opened all of them did not see it
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03:09 PM Lcvette: looks like it csame through as a .git?
03:09 PM JT[m]: wierd
03:11 PM jthornton: john@d10cave:~$ git clone https://github.com/jethornton/qtpyvcp_configs.git linuxcnc/configs/qtpyvcp
03:11 PM jthornton: Cloning into 'linuxcnc/configs/qtpyvcp'...
03:11 PM jthornton: remote: Enumerating objects: 6, done.
03:11 PM jthornton: remote: Counting objects: 100% (6/6), done.
03:11 PM jthornton: remote: Compressing objects: 100% (5/5), done.
03:11 PM jthornton: remote: Total 6 (delta 0), reused 0 (delta 0), pack-reused 0
03:11 PM jthornton: Unpacking objects: 100% (6/6), done.
03:12 PM jthornton: john@d10cave:~$ cd linuxcnc/configs
03:12 PM jthornton: john@d10cave:~/linuxcnc/configs$ ls
03:12 PM jthornton: qtpyvcp sim.axis
03:12 PM jthornton: john@d10cave:~/linuxcnc/configs$ cd qtpyvcp
03:12 PM jthornton: john@d10cave:~/linuxcnc/configs/qtpyvcp$ ls
03:12 PM jthornton: LICENSE README.md
03:12 PM jthornton: I wonder if there was a carrage return from the irc perhapst
03:13 PM jthornton: Lcvette, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DShWws3jY3/
03:13 PM jthornton: it should be one long line
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03:15 PM JT[m]: looks correct
03:15 PM Lcvette: ok
03:15 PM Lcvette: \o/
03:16 PM Lcvette: i see the readme files
03:16 PM Lcvette: was there supposed to be something put into linuxcnc?
03:17 PM Lcvette: i don't have a qtpyvcp in linuxcnc
03:17 PM Lcvette: from the dropdown method
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03:20 PM Lcvette: hazzy is this "qtpyvcp --install_configs probe_basic" something that I put in the installation instructions page?
03:20 PM Lcvette: if so at what stage?
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03:22 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: no, that was just an idea, not implemented
03:22 PM Lcvette: hazzy: ok
03:22 PM Lcvette: but is it possible?
03:22 PM Lcvette: if so could go on the probe_basic install instructions page
03:23 PM Lcvette: i think that would be good for the non dev install
03:24 PM Lcvette: since i think the only issue was the configs not being in the linuxcnc folder after install was done and not having a good way to get them there
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03:28 PM Lcvette: for this section of the installation instructions, if we dothe git clone https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.git in place of the pip install probe_basic
03:28 PM Lcvette: will it still install probe basic?
03:29 PM Lcvette: or does it need both the pip and the git clone lines?
03:29 PM TurBoss: hey
03:30 PM TurBoss: hello
03:30 PM Lcvette: for instance if someone knew they were going to install the dev version from the start, do they need to do both?
03:30 PM Lcvette: turboss \o/
03:30 PM Lcvette: or coule they go from:
03:30 PM Lcvette: pip install qtpyvcp togit clone
03:31 PM Lcvette: then cd probe_basic
03:31 PM Lcvette: then pip install -e .
03:31 PM Lcvette: ?
03:33 PM TurBoss: Lcvette: to dev you clone the pip install -e
03:33 PM TurBoss: * Lcvette: to dev you clone *then pip install -e
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03:36 PM Lcvette: so for dev pip install probe_basic is not needed?
03:36 PM Lcvette: ju7st the others above?
03:36 PM Lcvette: * just the others above?
03:36 PM Lcvette: turboss ^^
03:37 PM TurBoss: doesn't matter if you installed probe_basic first
03:37 PM Lcvette: does not need it?
03:38 PM Lcvette: ie should i get rid of it from the dev install guide?
03:38 PM TurBoss: if you do pip install probe_basic files go to the .local directory and are begin used from there
03:38 PM Lcvette: will everything still work is what im asking i supose
03:38 PM TurBoss: if you clone and do a pip install -e . files are begin used from the cloned directory
03:38 PM Lcvette: ok
03:38 PM TurBoss: so you can switch from pip to got
03:38 PM Lcvette: so for dev no need for both installations
03:38 PM TurBoss: * so you can switch from pip to *git
03:39 PM TurBoss: nio
03:39 PM TurBoss: * no
03:39 PM Lcvette: \o/
03:39 PM Lcvette: will adjust installation instructions
03:40 PM TurBoss: but for users pip install probe_basic is ok
03:41 PM Lcvette: not so
03:41 PM Lcvette: sims are inaccessble currently
03:46 PM Lcvette: during installation i have a note here that loinuxcnc needs to be started to create its folders
03:46 PM Lcvette: but i don't remember the context
03:47 PM Lcvette: im guessing that means that after the linuxcnc installation is completed and updated i need to direct them to run lnuxcnc for the first time prior to installing the next steps of qtpyvcp?
03:47 PM Lcvette: is that correct?
03:50 PM Lcvette: hazzy?
03:58 PM hazzy-m: Yes that is correct, or thay can creat the dir manualy
03:58 PM Lcvette: ok
03:58 PM Lcvette: i will just have them run the program
03:59 PM jthornton: if you copy the configs from a repo the directories for configs will be created if you use my example above
04:00 PM Lcvette: this is for the dev installation which is going to clone the whole probe_basic repo already anyhow
04:01 PM Lcvette: when i redo the non dev install instructions I will put in your method or hazzy's whichever you guys think will be better
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04:10 PM Lcvette: Hazzy can you please look over this carefully and let me know if i miussed anything or got anything wrong?
04:11 PM jthornton: you just need to follow your instructions a few times to check for errors
04:12 PM Lcvette: im too chicken
04:12 PM Lcvette: i don't wanna break my setup
04:12 PM Lcvette: it works
04:12 PM Lcvette: lol
04:13 PM TurBoss: hurray!
04:13 PM TurBoss: pock pock
04:14 PM TurBoss: 🐔
04:14 PM TurBoss: \o/
04:16 PM Lcvette: \o/
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04:17 PM Lcvette: revised
04:17 PM Lcvette: turboss, how does this look?
04:17 PM Lcvette: install for dummies?
04:17 PM Lcvette: \o/
04:18 PM Lcvette: or no?
04:18 PM TurBoss: is for dev install?
04:18 PM Lcvette: yes
04:18 PM TurBoss: cool
04:18 PM TurBoss: then you can omit the step 6
04:18 PM Lcvette: but i think for now also regular install
04:18 PM TurBoss: or
04:18 PM TurBoss: replace with git clone
04:19 PM TurBoss: step 6 should be git clone https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.git
04:19 PM Lcvette: whole line?
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04:19 PM Lcvette: \o/
04:20 PM TurBoss: there is no yes
04:20 PM TurBoss: while cloning
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04:20 PM TurBoss: Nice!
04:20 PM jthornton: Lcvette, you need to test them yourself with another hard drive
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04:21 PM Lcvette: jthornton: lcvette has no hard drives
04:21 PM Tom_L: wow
04:22 PM jthornton: wow they are really cheap
04:22 PM Lcvette: oooh.. i can load in my usdt box
04:22 PM Tom_L: so have you settled on a basic and dev install set of directions?
04:22 PM Lcvette: i bought as needed
04:22 PM Lcvette: im not a puter guy with stuff laying around like that
04:22 PM Lcvette: lol
04:22 PM Tom_L: needed as in after a crash?
04:22 PM Lcvette: i need to get some usb sticks too
04:23 PM Lcvette: Tom_L: no as i got puters that needed them
04:23 PM jthornton: get a hard drive pop it in and start from scratch and look for issues
04:23 PM Lcvette: for builds
04:23 PM Tom_L: i was gonna do that jthornton
04:23 PM jthornton: install the os, build a rt kernel everything you have told others to do
04:24 PM Tom_L: start with debian9 and add preempt then add linuxcnc and qtpyvcp and probe_basic with devel
04:24 PM Tom_L: but i haven't had a chance to sit down to do it
04:24 PM jthornton: that's what I have to do because you usually miss something important that you installed for something else and a newbee can't figure out what's missing
04:24 PM jthornton: I hear that
04:24 PM Tom_L: i've got plenty of drives to test on
04:25 PM jthornton: me too lol
04:25 PM jthornton: they are cheap
04:25 PM Tom_L: just kinda waiting for the dust to settle after kicking the 'chick' out of the qtpyvcp nest
04:26 PM Tom_L: i think a link to your debian & lcnc install would be in order as well
04:27 PM jthornton: have you ran linuxcnc headless?
04:27 PM Tom_L: no
04:27 PM Tom_L: i'm not that brave
04:28 PM jthornton: yea I just wonder if it's worth trying
04:28 PM Tom_L: i have no reason to here
04:28 PM jthornton: touch screens are cheap
04:28 PM jthornton: actually I run both of my printers headless using octiprint
04:29 PM Tom_L: i could see it more likely there
04:30 PM jthornton: mount a Rpi4 to the vesa mount of the touch screen and just run a Cat6 cable to your now tiny control panel... hmm everything would fit into a very small area
04:33 PM Lcvette: Tom_L (@freenode_Tom_L:matrix.org): did you see the install instructions?
04:33 PM Lcvette: I added that stuff from JT s how to on the installation
04:33 PM Tom_L: not today
04:34 PM Lcvette: I have them installing the Debian 9 from the stretch test link
04:35 PM Lcvette: Then I have them do JTs upgrade to 2.8 instructions
04:35 PM Tom_L: i don't do it that way
04:35 PM Tom_L: i start with a debian disk
04:36 PM Tom_L: your method is easier probably
04:36 PM jthornton: didn't know I had an upgrade...
04:36 PM Tom_L: no the buildbot site
04:36 PM Tom_L: or test
04:37 PM Tom_L: i think this is what Lcvette is talking about: http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/
04:38 PM jthornton: that's not mine
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04:38 PM Lcvette: this section is from your upgrade page
04:38 PM Tom_L: no i know that
04:38 PM Tom_L: i think i used your directions
04:38 PM Lcvette: jthornton: ^^
04:39 PM Tom_L: jthornton, "They just work" SM
04:39 PM jthornton: which upgrade page?
04:40 PM Lcvette: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/debian9-emc.html
04:40 PM Lcvette: jthornton: ^^
04:41 PM jthornton: that's not an upgrade and does not say upgrade anywhere except the apt-get command
04:41 PM jthornton: and dist-upgrade may not be what you assume it to be
04:41 PM Lcvette: oh
04:41 PM Lcvette: thats not how you upgrade to 2.8?
04:42 PM Lcvette: thats what is linked on the qtpyvcp page
04:42 PM Tom_L: you can i think
04:42 PM jthornton: no that's how you install linuxcnc on debian 9 after installing debian 9 and building and installing the rt preempt kernel
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04:43 PM Lcvette: thats how i did
04:44 PM Lcvette: it works but is there a way i should do it differently?
04:45 PM jthornton: apt dist-upgrade upgrades currently installed software so yea after you add the 2.8 repository it should use the latest version of linuxcnc
04:46 PM Tom_L: Lcvette if it works....
04:46 PM Lcvette: but if im instructing somethign wrong even though it works i would prefer to correct it
04:46 PM Tom_L: there's more than one way to do it
04:46 PM Lcvette: so its ok jthornton?
04:46 PM jthornton: that's why you need to have an extra hard drive and test
04:47 PM Lcvette: i did test that part on my big machine
04:47 PM Lcvette: thats how i upgraded it
04:47 PM Tom_L: i test with the spare hdd then plug it into the mill and test it
04:47 PM jthornton: some of those steps are most likely not needed before adding the repo
04:48 PM Lcvette: i have no clue which those would be
04:48 PM Tom_L: it would depend what you already have installed
04:48 PM jthornton: add the key for buildbot as the cd will not have that, add the repo, update, dist-upgrade
04:48 PM jthornton: and that's why you must test your instructions
04:49 PM Lcvette: well im 3 days away from having a hard drive to test
04:49 PM Lcvette: sooo
04:49 PM jthornton: awesome
04:50 PM Lcvette: i ordered but won't be here until wednesday
04:50 PM jthornton: add the key for buildbot as the cd will not have that, add the repo, update, dist-upgrade
04:50 PM Tom_L: samsung evo are fairly cheap and reliable
04:50 PM jthornton: that should be all you need to do after installing the linuxcnc live cd
04:51 PM jthornton: has the price gone down?
04:51 PM Tom_L: haven't checked lately
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04:52 PM Lcvette: jthornton: ^^ like this?
04:52 PM jthornton: that should be it
04:53 PM Lcvette: \o/
04:53 PM Tom_L: 1TB for 140
04:53 PM Tom_L: 130*
04:53 PM Lcvette: lcvette bought kingstons
04:53 PM Lcvette: 128gb
04:53 PM Lcvette: $17
04:53 PM Tom_L: tiny
04:53 PM Lcvette: lol
04:54 PM Tom_L: 250Gb $60
04:54 PM Lcvette: don't need a tb to test
04:54 PM jthornton: I use $15 hard drives for testing software
04:55 PM Lcvette: 128 x 3 376gb
04:55 PM * TurBoss is on 60Gb hdd
04:55 PM TurBoss: lol
04:55 PM Lcvette: 386gb
04:55 PM * TurBoss * is on 60Gb *sdd
04:55 PM Lcvette: :D
04:56 PM Lcvette: * 128 x 3 386gb $51
04:56 PM Lcvette: how do i put these instructions on the webpage for probe basic?
04:56 PM Tom_L: i've got a tiny one here somewhere i use once in a while
05:02 PM jthornton: Lcvette, edit docs/source/dev_install.rst
05:03 PM Lcvette: chris@chris:~$ edit docs/source/dev_install.rst
05:03 PM Lcvette: Error: no write permission for file "docs/source/dev_install.rst"
05:03 PM Lcvette: chris@chris:~$
05:03 PM jthornton: with a text editor...
05:03 PM Lcvette: i have sublime
05:04 PM jthornton: probe_basic/docs/source/dev_install.rst
05:04 PM jthornton: I'm sorry to hear that...
05:04 PM Lcvette: i also have atom
05:09 PM jthornton: are they curable?
05:09 PM TurBoss: nuke them all
05:09 PM TurBoss: :P
05:09 PM TurBoss: geany is the only one
05:09 PM TurBoss: lol
05:10 PM jthornton: +1 geany
05:12 PM jthornton: Lcvette, edit your readme.md file and change the docs link to https://kcjengr.github.io/probe_basic/
05:13 PM jthornton: I would not assume they are all starting from scratch and just list the requirements for probe basic
05:13 PM * hazzy-m loves octiprint
05:14 PM jthornton: Dependencies is spelled wrong too Lcvette
05:15 PM jthornton: yea octipi + octiprint is really cool, my old printer even prints better with it
05:16 PM TurBoss: yeah may fault
05:16 PM TurBoss: deps
05:17 PM TurBoss: yo no hablo su idioma lol
05:19 PM jthornton: Entiendo que lol
05:19 PM TurBoss: :)
05:20 PM jthornton: Mi esposa habla español
05:20 PM TurBoss: cool
05:20 PM jthornton: ya no tiene a nadie con quien hablar español
05:21 PM jthornton: ella es puertorriqueña
05:21 PM jthornton: that may not have translated right lol
05:22 PM Lcvette: how to spell ?
05:22 PM jthornton: e after the d
05:22 PM Lcvette: 4- Install qtpyvcp dependencies, copy the following in the main terminal it is all
05:22 PM Lcvette: one line, hit enter, select Y for yes if asked at any point during installation.
05:23 PM Lcvette: thats how it is spelled no?
05:23 PM jthornton: https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic
05:23 PM jthornton: bottom of the page
05:23 PM jthornton: your home repo page
05:24 PM Lcvette: oh i didn't do that
05:24 PM jthornton: but you own it now!
05:24 PM Lcvette: turboss did it
05:24 PM Lcvette: i don't know how to edit it
05:24 PM TurBoss: edit readme.md
05:25 PM TurBoss: an dpush
05:25 PM Lcvette: fixed!
05:26 PM jthornton: awesome
05:26 PM TurBoss: Dependancies \o/
05:26 PM TurBoss: ~o~
05:26 PM Lcvette: https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/blob/master/README.md
05:27 PM Lcvette: updated!
05:27 PM Lcvette: \o/
05:27 PM TurBoss: yeah!
05:27 PM jthornton: yea, now edit your docs
05:27 PM TurBoss: ok turboss has finished its blender tour
05:28 PM TurBoss: now to the offsets thign
05:28 PM TurBoss: * now to the offsets thing
05:28 PM Lcvette: \o/ hurray tiurboss!
05:29 PM TurBoss: truboss
05:29 PM jthornton: TurBoss, what were you thinking about for conversational?
05:29 PM Lcvette: jthornton: https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/blob/master/README.md
05:29 PM Lcvette: * jthornton: chris@chris:~$ probe_basic/docs/source/dev_install.rst
05:29 PM Lcvette: bash: probe_basic/docs/source/dev_install.rst: No such file or directory
05:29 PM Lcvette: chris@chris:~$ ^C
05:29 PM jthornton: Lcvette, edit your dev install doc page in docs/source
05:29 PM Lcvette: nash
05:30 PM jthornton: open the file with a text editor
05:30 PM jthornton: this is what you see https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/master/docs/source/dev_install.rst
05:30 PM Lcvette: dev install
05:31 PM Lcvette: ?
05:31 PM jthornton: this is the published doc https://kcjengr.github.io/probe_basic/dev_install.html
05:31 PM TurBoss: jthornton: nothing yet
05:31 PM jthornton: probe_basic/master/docs/source/dev_install.rst
05:31 PM Lcvette: jthornton: ok i updated the file
05:32 PM TurBoss: atom has a RST plugin
05:32 PM Lcvette: now does it post when i do a push?
05:32 PM jthornton: TurBoss, I have hole ops, and some basic facing ops already
05:32 PM TurBoss: so you can see the result
05:32 PM Lcvette: on kraken?
05:32 PM jthornton: Lcvette, it's magic
05:32 PM TurBoss: jthornton: di they generate gcode directly? nice
05:32 PM jthornton: yes
05:32 PM TurBoss: are they in somewhere?
05:33 PM jthornton: for hole ops you need to pass a list of xy locations
05:33 PM jthornton: mill 6
05:33 PM TurBoss: okay!
05:34 PM Lcvette: where does it publish so i can check it?
05:34 PM jthornton: https://travis-ci.org/kcjengr/probe_basic
05:34 PM jthornton: that
05:34 PM jthornton: 's travis and that is what builds and deploys the docs
05:34 PM jthornton: https://kcjengr.github.io/probe_basic/dev_install.html
05:35 PM jthornton: that's the published docs
05:36 PM jthornton: now you need to add how to do the dev install to the actual docs not the readme
05:37 PM jthornton: the change you made to the readme is in your repo code page https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic
05:39 PM Lcvette: i followed the instructions for travis
05:39 PM Lcvette: but it says i don't have any build directories
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05:40 PM TurBoss: check the left column
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05:40 PM Lcvette: om im there
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05:41 PM Lcvette: 3 2 1
05:42 PM Tom_L: tested?
05:43 PM Lcvette: trying to figure out how to do the docs
05:43 PM Lcvette: no clue what im supposed to do here now
05:43 PM jthornton: do you have dev_install.rst open in a text editor?
05:44 PM Lcvette: no i saved
05:44 PM Lcvette: https://kcjengr.github.io/probe_basic/dev_install.html
05:44 PM Lcvette: its there!
05:44 PM Lcvette: \o/
05:44 PM Tom_L: yeah i've been reading it
05:45 PM Lcvette: how do i make the coipy paste things highlighted?
05:45 PM jthornton: there you go
05:45 PM Lcvette: do it in the text editor?
05:45 PM Tom_L: bold them
05:45 PM TurBoss: http://openalea.gforge.inria.fr/doc/openalea/doc/_build/html/source/sphinx/rest_syntax.html
05:46 PM jthornton: yep, time to learn sphinx syntal
05:46 PM jthornton: syntax even
05:46 PM TurBoss: http://openalea.gforge.inria.fr/doc/openalea/doc/_build/html/source/sphinx/rest_syntax.html#inserting-code-and-literal-blocks
05:47 PM jthornton: Lcvette, pay attention to the :: directive for code blocks as well as indentation
05:47 PM jthornton: and the empty line
05:49 PM Lcvette: err... ok looks fine as is
05:49 PM Tom_L: some numbers are bold and some aren't
05:50 PM Tom_L: 1,6,9,11 aren't
05:50 PM * TurBoss sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ukVVUrpgEHZgFCzTVVogPtRD >
05:50 PM jthornton: Lcvette, you still need to change the link on the readme to your docs
05:51 PM Tom_L: TurBoss!
05:51 PM TurBoss: so close!
05:51 PM Lcvette: \o/
05:51 PM Lcvette: looks good
05:53 PM * jthornton wonders if it is still raining or not... if not I'm grilling outside
05:53 PM Tom_L: not here
05:53 PM jthornton: colder?
05:54 PM jthornton: yea indentation and other stuff is all messed up, I can't believe Lcvette would allow that
05:59 PM Tom_L: cooler
06:00 PM jthornton: have you done any vacuum forming?
06:00 PM Lcvette: lcvette don't know sphincter code
06:00 PM Lcvette: spinx code
06:00 PM jthornton: TurBoss, linked it to you
06:00 PM Tom_L: no but i think rue has
06:00 PM Lcvette: looked at it
06:00 PM Tom_L: like plastic sheet?
06:00 PM jthornton: yea
06:01 PM Lcvette: closed it quickly and shut my eyes tight to make it go away
06:01 PM Tom_L: somebody i know has...
06:01 PM Tom_L: toaster oven then to the vacuum mold
06:01 PM Lcvette: lcvette is fixing what he canh in the editor
06:01 PM Tom_L: jthornton, how big?
06:01 PM jthornton: 8" round 2.5" high
06:02 PM Tom_L: i did coleman canoes ~35+ yrs ago :)
06:02 PM Tom_L: yeah toaster oven would do for that
06:02 PM jthornton: I have a kiln that's big enough
06:03 PM Tom_L: yep
06:03 PM Tom_L: bbiab
06:03 PM Tom_L: food time
06:03 PM jthornton: k
06:03 PM jthornton: me too
06:05 PM jthornton: Polycarbonate (often sold under the trade name "Lexan") is the virtually unbreakable thermoform plastic used to make bulletproof glass. Thin-gauge, transparent Polycarbonate is the material of choice for folks who build ultra light, thin plastic parts that are exposed to a lot of abuse.
06:05 PM jthornton: I think that is what I need
06:08 PM Lcvette: https://kcjengr.github.io/probe_basic/dev_install.html
06:09 PM Lcvette: i can't find an easy way to bold crap in sublime
06:09 PM Lcvette: there is no button like word
06:09 PM Lcvette: i fixed the indentations and its all uniform now though so good enough!
06:25 PM Tom_L: jthornton, polycarbonate yes
06:27 PM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03offset_table [+0/-0/±2] 13https://git.io/JeCKR
06:27 PM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 03824ad1d - WIP generate mdi commands
06:29 PM * TurBoss sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/PBwjwRIYozNtYmYupACMyZKf >
06:29 PM TurBoss: I only need to figure how to show hide the colums choosen on designer
06:30 PM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss pushed 031 commit to 03offset_table [+0/-0/±1] 13https://git.io/JeCKE
06:30 PM Not-5e4d: [02qtpyvcp] 07TurBoss 030122c3d - index typo
06:30 PM TurBoss: I call it a day
06:30 PM TurBoss: night
06:33 PM Lcvette: sweet!
06:33 PM Lcvette: whatcha got there turboss?
06:33 PM Lcvette: \o/
06:33 PM Lcvette: looks great!
06:33 PM Lcvette: going to test
06:36 PM Lcvette: TurBoss: you use the property editor
06:36 PM Lcvette: it has a list of the columns t display
06:36 PM Lcvette: i just removed cuvw
06:36 PM Lcvette: left xyzabr
06:36 PM Lcvette: it displays the columns you want that way
06:42 PM Tom_L: jthornton, i used polycarbonate on my mill enclosure
06:42 PM Tom_L: plexiglas cracks too easy
06:45 PM Tom_L: Lcvette looks like they might use <blockquote></blockquote> instead of bold
06:46 PM Tom_L: open the .html, right click... view source
06:46 PM Lcvette: just put that outside what i want bold?
06:47 PM Tom_L: try it yes
06:47 PM Tom_L: i'm not for certain but that's kinda what the source indicates
06:48 PM Tom_L: wait... now none of them are bold
06:50 PM Tom_L: try just adding <bold></bold> instead
06:51 PM travis-ci: kcjengr/probe_basic#59 (master - a765d25 : Chris): The build was broken.
06:51 PM travis-ci: Diff view : https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/compare/3c6694abfd4b...a765d25c5347
06:51 PM travis-ci: Build details : https://travis-ci.org/kcjengr/probe_basic/builds/594351883
06:52 PM Lcvette: build failed
06:53 PM Tom_L: don't use that
06:54 PM travis-ci: kcjengr/probe_basic#60 (master - ec34e05 : Chris): The build is still failing.
06:54 PM travis-ci: Diff view : https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/compare/a765d25c5347...ec34e058800f
06:54 PM travis-ci: Build details : https://travis-ci.org/kcjengr/probe_basic/builds/594352453
06:57 PM Lcvette: i figured it out
06:57 PM Tom_L: what was it?
06:58 PM Lcvette: text
06:58 PM Lcvette: bold
06:58 PM Lcvette: **
06:58 PM Lcvette: on each side
06:58 PM Lcvette: one * is italics
06:58 PM Tom_L: yeah, i just didn't see that in the source at first
06:58 PM Tom_L: but i looked again and nothing was bolded
06:58 PM Tom_L: :)
06:59 PM Tom_L: underline probably works too
06:59 PM Tom_L: if needed
06:59 PM Lcvette: http://openalea.gforge.inria.fr/doc/openalea/doc/_build/html/source/sphinx/rest_syntax.html#text-syntax-bold-italic-verbatim-and-special-characters
07:01 PM Tom_L: so it's interpreted
07:01 PM Tom_L: not real html
07:01 PM Lcvette: ~o~
07:01 PM Tom_L: https://www.w3schools.com/html/
07:01 PM Tom_L: good reference
07:02 PM Tom_L: all sorts of languages
07:06 PM Lcvette: trying the bold and highlight
07:06 PM Lcvette: not sure if it will work, the highlight wasn't changing things as expected in sublime
07:07 PM travis-ci: kcjengr/probe_basic#61 (master - 79c5dd2 : Chris): The build was fixed.
07:07 PM travis-ci: Diff view : https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/compare/ec34e058800f...79c5dd260c58
07:07 PM travis-ci: Build details : https://travis-ci.org/kcjengr/probe_basic/builds/594354861
07:09 PM Lcvette: bold worked
07:09 PM Lcvette: the highlight did not
07:09 PM Lcvette: :(
07:11 PM Lcvette: .. seealso:https://www.balena.io/etcher/?ref=etcher_update:
07:11 PM Lcvette: hazzy how to i highlight
07:12 PM Lcvette: this is what i got from the sphinx link
07:12 PM Lcvette: but it isn't working
07:12 PM Lcvette: or im using it wrong
07:12 PM Lcvette: :(
07:12 PM Lcvette: tryuing to make my docs pretty
07:12 PM Lcvette: they needs flava
07:12 PM Lcvette: lol
07:12 PM hazzy-m: I've never tried highlighting
07:13 PM hazzy-m: Sek
07:13 PM Lcvette: http://openalea.gforge.inria.fr/doc/openalea/doc/_build/html/source/sphinx/rest_syntax.html#colored-boxes-note-seealso-todo-and-warnings
07:14 PM Lcvette: jthornton: where you go?
07:14 PM Lcvette: you know this answer i know
07:14 PM Lcvette: :note:
07:14 PM Lcvette: .. seealso:: note
07:17 PM Tom_L: https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/1.5/markup/code.html
07:18 PM Lcvette: i cheated of JT
07:18 PM Lcvette: lol
07:19 PM Tom_L: some of mine i changed the text style on things the user should type
07:20 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/abcminiuser/articles/avr_timers_index.php
07:20 PM Tom_L: example
07:21 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: did you know you can build the docs localy to test?
07:21 PM Lcvette: of course
07:22 PM Tom_L: :O
07:22 PM Lcvette: not
07:22 PM Tom_L: hah
07:22 PM hazzy-m: lol
07:22 PM Lcvette: how would i know that'
07:22 PM Lcvette: i just saw where travis comes from for the first time an hour agp
07:22 PM hazzy-m: its in the doc :P
07:22 PM Tom_L: but will it format correctly on my phone?
07:22 PM Tom_L: on explorer
07:22 PM Tom_L: on firefox
07:22 PM Tom_L: on....
07:23 PM hazzy-m: Tom_L: it _should_ :)
07:23 PM hazzy-m: fist run `pip install sphinx sphinx_rtd_theme mock`
07:23 PM Tom_L: yeah
07:23 PM Tom_L: just saying...
07:24 PM Lcvette: ?
07:24 PM hazzy-m: then from the probe_basic dir run `sphinx-build -Wv docs/source docs/build/html`
07:25 PM hazzy-m: then open the docs/build/html/index.html file in a web broswer
07:25 PM hazzy-m: and it will be identical to what travis will build
07:26 PM Lcvette: k i did that now what?
07:26 PM Tom_L: fix yer docs
07:26 PM Tom_L: and test yer docs locally
07:26 PM * Lcvette uploaded an image: Screenshot_2019-10-06_20-20-24.png (137KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/jxRcccaVnHQekZOiOWZSvMYm >
07:26 PM Tom_L: then push yer docs
07:26 PM hazzy-m: perfect
07:26 PM hazzy-m: now open in a web brower and you can preview the docs
07:27 PM Tom_L: i usually just leave it open and refresh
07:27 PM Tom_L: just quicker
07:27 PM hazzy-m: just run `sphinx-build -Wv docs/source docs/build/html` every time you make a change and refresh the page in the browser to see the changes
07:27 PM Lcvette: how do i see the doc?
07:28 PM hazzy-m: will also show you errors if you mess something up, much quiker than pushing and waiting for travis to finish
07:28 PM Lcvette: i opened firefox and was just the home page
07:28 PM Tom_L: open it in your brouser
07:28 PM Tom_L: find the .html for yours
07:28 PM hazzy-m: double click on the index.html in the docs/build/html dir
07:28 PM Lcvette: ok
07:28 PM Lcvette: i figured it out
07:28 PM Lcvette: but how do i highlight
07:28 PM Tom_L: . ::
07:28 PM hazzy-m: you can also make PDF versions of the docs with `make pdf`
07:29 PM Tom_L: i guess
07:30 PM Tom_L: use that link i posted
07:31 PM Lcvette: hazzy can you help me
07:31 PM Lcvette: i'd like to spend some time with the wife and just want to finish this ive been on it for a few hjours now and shes fristrated
07:32 PM Lcvette: jt does :: after a header
07:32 PM hazzy-m: yes, i'm looking at it now
07:33 PM Lcvette: but that highlights everything under the header
07:33 PM Lcvette: i have notes in between headers along with the paste sections
07:33 PM Tom_L: it does until you turn it off by chaning it back to normal
07:33 PM Tom_L: it's similar to the <bold></bold> unbold
07:33 PM Lcvette: tom show an example
07:33 PM Tom_L: it will stay until you turn it off or change it
07:34 PM Tom_L: i don't know that particular language
07:34 PM Tom_L: but that's how it works
07:34 PM Lcvette: how do you turn it off?
07:34 PM Lcvette: this doc sucks
07:34 PM Lcvette: the sphinx one
07:34 PM Lcvette: the doc writer needed a doc on how to write docs
07:34 PM Lcvette: mother doccer
07:34 PM Lcvette: lol
07:34 PM hazzy-m: it has excellent documentation ...
07:35 PM Lcvette: has nothing of the sort
07:35 PM hazzy-m: one of the most popular and powerfull out there
07:35 PM Lcvette: if it were good how come you don't know how to do highlight yet?
07:35 PM Lcvette: lol
07:36 PM hazzy-m: I'm not sure why you want to hightlight
07:36 PM Lcvette: the sections to paste
07:36 PM hazzy-m: the terminal commands should be <pre> formated
07:36 PM Lcvette: to keep the formatting the same as what JT did
07:36 PM Lcvette: and it is nice to see the next highlight item
07:36 PM Lcvette: it builds confidence
07:37 PM Tom_L: try this: .highlight::
07:37 PM Tom_L: :emphasize-lines: 1
07:37 PM Tom_L: see what happens
07:37 PM Tom_L: with the text following that
07:39 PM Tom_L: https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/1.5/config.html#confval-highlight_language
07:40 PM hazzy-m: so you don't really want highlited text, but literal blocks
07:40 PM Tom_L: or language or whatever
07:41 PM Tom_L: .highlight:: python will highlite any python it encounters
07:41 PM Tom_L: as i read it anyway
07:42 PM Lcvette: ends without a blank line
07:42 PM Lcvette: ?
07:42 PM Tom_L: test it
07:42 PM Tom_L: i dunno for sure
07:43 PM Lcvette: thats from my test
07:43 PM Tom_L: this looks to be set up to build templates for pages with the same look
07:43 PM * Lcvette sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/lqvbWRRwmUbmbtusWmwvpvxe >
07:43 PM travis-ci: kcjengr/probe_basic#64 (master - 78d350a : Chris): The build was broken.
07:43 PM travis-ci: Diff view : https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/compare/2dd500f00f35...78d350a96e4e
07:43 PM travis-ci: Build details : https://travis-ci.org/kcjengr/probe_basic/builds/594361903
07:45 PM Tom_L: so you've got the numbered lines bolded now
07:48 PM Tom_L: but
07:48 PM Tom_L: you've got :: showing in front of alot of lines now
07:48 PM Tom_L: probably the ones you want highlighted
07:50 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: just pushed, see if that is what you want
07:50 PM Tom_L: pushed what?
07:51 PM hazzy-m: the docs with the code snippets formated as literal blocks
07:51 PM Tom_L: the doc is still broke
07:51 PM Lcvette: how to do?
07:51 PM hazzy-m: travis should build it in a sec
07:51 PM Lcvette: ok
07:51 PM Tom_L: ::http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/
07:51 PM Tom_L: that's what i see
07:51 PM hazzy-m: Tom_L: same here, I fixed it, should be up soon
07:52 PM travis-ci: kcjengr/probe_basic#65 (master - f7b2dee : Kurt Jacobson): The build was fixed.
07:52 PM travis-ci: Diff view : https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/compare/78d350a96e4e...f7b2dee97a00
07:52 PM travis-ci: Build details : https://travis-ci.org/kcjengr/probe_basic/builds/594363302
07:52 PM Tom_L: yeah i caught that
07:52 PM Tom_L: much better
07:52 PM hazzy-m: there we go!
07:52 PM Tom_L: code block?
07:53 PM Tom_L: do tell....
07:53 PM hazzy-m: yes, actualy litteral block, but sphinx will convert it to a code block if it regocnizes the language
07:53 PM Lcvette: \o/
07:53 PM * Lcvette sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/XWkVrTvwgEOmRwyZhoolREHO >
07:53 PM hazzy-m: should have html <pre> tags in the output
07:53 PM Lcvette: was it anything like this
07:53 PM Tom_L: https://www.sphinx-doc.org/en/1.5/config.html#confval-highlight_language
07:54 PM Tom_L: Lcvette ^^
07:54 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: exactly
07:56 PM Lcvette: \o/
07:56 PM Lcvette: hurray!!
07:57 PM * Tom_L puts Lcvette in charge of all the docs now
07:57 PM Lcvette: mutha doccer
07:57 PM Lcvette: lcvbette declines
07:57 PM Lcvette: lol
07:57 PM Tom_L: sry it was unanimous
08:00 PM Lcvette: I'll get back to you on that one
08:01 PM Tom_L: now make the copyright line blink :)
08:03 PM Lcvette: Tom_L are you testing install?
08:04 PM Tom_L: no not right now
08:04 PM Tom_L: dude, you're the author :)
08:05 PM Tom_L: it looks pretty close though
08:09 PM Lcvette: i know but i won't have the ssds until wednesday
08:14 PM * hazzy-m sold a box of 20-40 HDDs yesterday for $10 to a guy thats going to make art from them
08:14 PM hazzy-m: should have shipped them to Lcvette, didn't know you needed some
08:14 PM hazzy-m: they are handy to have around
08:15 PM Lcvette: i bought 2 more of the 128gb ssds
08:15 PM hazzy-m: nice!
08:15 PM Tom_L: what brand did you say they were?
08:16 PM Lcvette: kingston
08:16 PM Tom_L: If you would like to make a launcher for editing probe_basic
08:16 PM Tom_L: for a noob you might say:
08:17 PM Tom_L: if you would like a desktop icon
08:18 PM Tom_L: alot of them will never have had any linux experience
08:19 PM Lcvette: good call
08:19 PM Tom_L: read it as if you've never seen this before
08:20 PM Lcvette: This should complete the installation of QtPyVCP and the probe_basic GUI, you can now run the sim to get to know it, as well open and play with the GUI design. If you would like to make a Desktop Icon to launch the editor for probe_basic, follow the below instruction
08:22 PM Tom_L: i'd modify 8 slightly too
08:22 PM Tom_L: it mentions icon though so maybe not
08:23 PM Tom_L: 2: master isn't 2.8 anymore
08:24 PM Tom_L: 2- Upgrade to linuxcnc 2.8
08:25 PM Tom_L: qtpyvcp requires version 2.8 or later
08:25 PM Tom_L: or something
08:26 PM Tom_L: somebody _will_ try to use it with 2.7
08:27 PM Lcvette: k
08:27 PM Lcvette: updating now
08:30 PM Lcvette: updated
08:30 PM Tom_L: sure is
08:32 PM Lcvette: https://kcjengr.github.io/probe_basic/dev_install.html
11:50 PM Lcvette: turboss, what happened to the new offset table?
11:51 PM Lcvette: did it get lost in the merge?