#hazzy Logs
Sep 24 2019
#hazzy Calendar
05:24 AM hazzy-m: Morning
05:35 AM Tom_L: hey
05:46 AM jthornton: morning
09:58 AM Lcvette: morning
10:09 AM Lcvette: hazzy the new gitkraken says its got a bunch of new benefits have you installed?
12:52 PM Lcvette: can i update probe basic from the new repository if i installed from the old repository?
12:52 PM Lcvette: turboss?
12:52 PM Lcvette: very confused now
12:52 PM Lcvette: :(
12:52 PM Lcvette: wanted to try and test out something
05:27 PM Lcvette: o/
05:28 PM hazzy-m: Yo
05:28 PM Lcvette: nubby is here! o/
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05:29 PM * hazzy-m is still working
05:29 PM Lcvette: nice!
05:29 PM Lcvette: when are you gonna do your enclosure?
05:29 PM Lcvette: lol
05:33 PM jthornton: pretty slick folding
05:36 PM roguish[m]: jthornton: JT, are you using servos or step/dir steppers on you BP? what size
05:39 PM jthornton: the BP knee mill has an Anilam 1100M kit on it and has servos
06:38 PM jthornton: hazzy-m, got my highland resaw blade today, not tried it yet but interesting setup it has
06:42 PM Lcvette: hazzy hows the persistant boxes coming along?
06:44 PM * jthornton should check the burn pile one more time before calling it a day
06:59 PM Lcvette: Anything I can help with?
07:14 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: just got home, I'll try to do a little deving tonight, but have customers coming in early in the morning
07:14 PM hazzy-m: jthornton: yea, the variable pitch it very effective at stoping resonance and blade squeal
07:16 PM Lcvette: Sweet thanks
08:10 PM TurBoss: Lcvette: yo is here
08:15 PM TurBoss: hello!
08:16 PM Lcvette: Yo
08:21 PM Tom_L: evening
08:29 PM TurBoss: Lcvette: did you figured the installation thing?¿
08:29 PM TurBoss: o/
08:32 PM Lcvette: o/
08:32 PM Lcvette: No
08:32 PM Lcvette: 😧
08:33 PM TurBoss: oh
08:33 PM TurBoss: what you trying to do?
08:34 PM TurBoss: update atom?
08:36 PM TurBoss: yo may need to install gvfs-bin and libcurl4
08:36 PM Lcvette: Install atom machine computer
08:37 PM TurBoss: ah
08:37 PM Lcvette: O tried installing those but they couldn't install
08:37 PM TurBoss: ya requirements shown in the message
08:37 PM TurBoss: sudo apt install gvfs-bin libcurl4
08:39 PM Lcvette: I tried that but one at a time
08:39 PM Lcvette: Got error, sec I'll boot up machine
08:41 PM TurBoss: you wan't atom for rs274 syntax highlit?
08:50 PM Lcvette: yes
08:50 PM Lcvette: exactly why i want it
08:50 PM TurBoss: ok
08:50 PM Lcvette: and the screen split for having two files open same time is nice
08:51 PM hazzy-m: Lcvette: I know the solution for atom, just can’t remember it lol
08:52 PM TurBoss: hi!
08:52 PM hazzy-m: I posed it somewhere, so if you search in the error it should con up
08:53 PM hazzy-m: LOL
08:53 PM * hazzy-m goes back to sleep
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08:59 PM Lcvette: turboss
08:59 PM Lcvette: ^^^
08:59 PM TurBoss: yo
08:59 PM TurBoss: sudo apt update
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09:01 PM TurBoss: ok
09:01 PM TurBoss: run sudo apt --fix-broken install
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09:02 PM Lcvette: is fixed?
09:03 PM TurBoss: sudo apt update
09:03 PM TurBoss: then upgrade
09:04 PM Lcvette: \o/
09:04 PM TurBoss: great!
09:04 PM Lcvette: hero
09:05 PM TurBoss: |o-
09:05 PM Lcvette: uh oh, now my screen is going crazy
09:06 PM TurBoss: wo?
09:06 PM Lcvette: colorful lines
09:06 PM TurBoss: oh
09:06 PM Lcvette: what was that all about?
09:06 PM Tom_L: video driver
09:06 PM Lcvette: going to reboot
09:06 PM TurBoss: check the connections
09:06 PM TurBoss: vga
09:13 PM Lcvette: tightened vga connections, seems good now
09:13 PM Lcvette: :D
09:13 PM Lcvette: \o/
09:13 PM Lcvette: atom is installed too
09:13 PM Lcvette: \o/
09:14 PM Tom_L: phew
09:14 PM TurBoss: good
09:14 PM Lcvette: phwew is right
09:17 PM Lcvette: installed the linuxcnc theme
09:17 PM Lcvette: \o/
09:17 PM Lcvette: now the big machine is ready for quick changes
09:17 PM TurBoss: great!
09:18 PM Lcvette: so turboss, how can i upgrade this machine from the new repository release?
09:18 PM Lcvette: to i have to do a version release like hazzy used to do?
09:18 PM TurBoss: you did modifications on probe_basic
09:18 PM TurBoss: on the machine still installed the one from qtpyvcp
09:18 PM Lcvette: just trying some fixes while hazzy sorts out the persistents
09:19 PM Lcvette: yes
09:19 PM TurBoss: ok
09:19 PM Lcvette: installed from old qtpyvcp pip
09:19 PM Lcvette: or maybe i should not try since tom was not successful in installing might break
09:19 PM TurBoss: you did pip install --upgrade git+httsp://github.com/kcjengr/qtpyvcp
09:20 PM Lcvette: the last one i did i did from qtpyvcp
09:20 PM TurBoss: ok
09:20 PM Lcvette: then document
09:20 PM TurBoss: now you only need to install probe_basic too
09:20 PM TurBoss: pip install git+https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic
09:21 PM TurBoss: * pip install --upgrade git+https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic
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09:21 PM Lcvette: i did this one last time
09:22 PM Lcvette: do the install now?
09:22 PM TurBoss: hmmm
09:23 PM TurBoss: you will end with 2 probe basic installations
09:23 PM TurBoss: the one bundled in qtpyvcp as example
09:23 PM TurBoss: and the one you have to install with
09:23 PM TurBoss: ````
09:23 PM TurBoss: pip install --upgrade git+https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.git
09:24 PM Lcvette: oh thats not good
09:24 PM TurBoss: on the chooser will show 2
09:24 PM TurBoss: no problem
09:24 PM Lcvette: so i need to uninstall?
09:24 PM TurBoss: nno
09:24 PM Lcvette: but is it fixed now?
09:24 PM Lcvette: i don't want two
09:24 PM Lcvette: i want this machine to be kept clean
09:25 PM Tom_L: stop messin with it then :)
09:25 PM Tom_L: use a backup ssd
09:25 PM Tom_L: mirror it
09:25 PM Lcvette: i need updates
09:25 PM Tom_L: and fiddle away
09:25 PM TurBoss: ok
09:25 PM TurBoss: lol
09:25 PM Tom_L: i never apply things to my mill until they work
09:26 PM Lcvette: i don't have anymore ssd's
09:26 PM TurBoss: Lcvette: don't worry if you have 2 probebasic installeds
09:26 PM TurBoss: on the chooser will show 2
09:26 PM Lcvette: should have left it alone and not moved the repository
09:26 PM Lcvette: :(
09:26 PM Lcvette: i knew things like this were going to happen
09:26 PM TurBoss: can be fixed
09:26 PM TurBoss: you are much dramatic
09:26 PM Tom_L: haha
09:26 PM Tom_L: true but still funny
09:27 PM TurBoss: Tom_L is eating pop corn lol
09:27 PM Lcvette: not dramatic
09:27 PM TurBoss: :D
09:27 PM Lcvette: just finally had things going good
09:27 PM Lcvette: and changed and now busted
09:27 PM TurBoss: is busted?
09:27 PM Lcvette: frustrating\
09:28 PM Lcvette: can't update without having two installs?
09:28 PM TurBoss: for now no
09:28 PM Lcvette: we still have not succesfully installed fromt he new repository
09:28 PM Lcvette: so.. yeah i think busted no?
09:28 PM Lcvette: needs repairs
09:28 PM Lcvette: ?
09:28 PM Tom_L: does it create a resource in the synaptic package manager?
09:28 PM Tom_L: if so, change that
09:28 PM Lcvette: or already beenn repaired?
09:28 PM TurBoss: sek
09:29 PM TurBoss: the qtpyvcp chooser has 2 sections
09:29 PM TurBoss: included examples
09:29 PM TurBoss: and installed vcp
09:29 PM TurBoss: probebasic will show in both but youl have to choose the one from installed ones
09:29 PM Lcvette: I'll just wait
09:30 PM TurBoss: ok...!
09:30 PM Lcvette: U till it's resolved and rei stall from scratch the whole system
09:30 PM TurBoss: ok
09:30 PM Lcvette: I don't mind doing that
09:30 PM TurBoss: isn't really necesary
09:30 PM Lcvette: Just wish I had known ahead of time
09:31 PM Lcvette: It will be good learning experience
09:31 PM TurBoss: :!
09:31 PM Tom_L: what's the pip command to install it in the new location?
09:32 PM TurBoss: pip install git+https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.gi
09:32 PM TurBoss: * pip install git+https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.git
09:33 PM Tom_L: says it installed but where?
09:34 PM TurBoss: that kind of installation goes to .local
09:34 PM TurBoss: its not intented to be modified
09:34 PM Tom_L: what root directory?
09:35 PM TurBoss: /home/tom/.local/
09:35 PM Tom_L: i don't see that directory
09:35 PM TurBoss: its hidden
09:35 PM Lcvette: can i not just do an uninstall and reinstall from the new repository?
09:36 PM TurBoss: not now
09:36 PM Tom_L: you made changes that aren't pushed didn't you?
09:36 PM TurBoss: qtpyvcp stills included on qtpyvcp
09:36 PM Lcvette: ok
09:36 PM TurBoss: me no
09:36 PM Lcvette: me?
09:36 PM Tom_L: no the pesky one
09:36 PM Lcvette: mine are pushed
09:36 PM TurBoss: :)
09:36 PM Lcvette: to gitkraken in the new repository
09:36 PM TurBoss: okay
09:37 PM TurBoss: https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic/commits/master
09:37 PM Lcvette: nothing major just some things to try and stop the calibration offset from becoming 0
09:37 PM Lcvette: i made them to the config branch
09:37 PM Lcvette: thoughtthat was the latest?
09:37 PM TurBoss: if they are ok should be merged to master
09:38 PM Lcvette: no way to test except on the machine
09:38 PM Tom_L: probe basic vertical
09:38 PM Tom_L: probe basic lathe
09:38 PM Tom_L: probe basic
09:38 PM Lcvette: probe basic
09:38 PM Tom_L: after running xyz.ini
09:38 PM Lcvette: the other two are not close and need much updating
09:38 PM TurBoss: Tom_L: are thoose shown in the qtpyvcp chooser?
09:38 PM Tom_L: now they are yes
09:39 PM TurBoss: there are 2
09:39 PM Tom_L: woops
09:39 PM TurBoss: boxes
09:39 PM Tom_L: errrs
09:39 PM TurBoss: hmmmm
09:39 PM TurBoss: xD
09:39 PM Tom_L: that was from 'examples'
09:39 PM Lcvette: Tom_L: what are the errors?
09:40 PM TurBoss: Tom_L: you have to pick probe_basic from installed vcps
09:40 PM TurBoss: in the chooser
09:40 PM Tom_L: did that too and same errors
09:40 PM TurBoss: ah
09:40 PM TurBoss: oh
09:40 PM Lcvette: what errors?
09:40 PM Lcvette: post them here
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09:41 PM TurBoss: can you please show the bottom?
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09:42 PM TurBoss: ok
09:43 PM TurBoss: python-pyqt5.qtquick
09:43 PM TurBoss: aot install
09:43 PM TurBoss: probebasic fails because it uses qml tecnology for the atc widget
09:50 PM Tom_L[m]: so i need that package?
09:50 PM TurBoss: yes for pb
09:50 PM TurBoss: not 100% sure if is that package
09:50 PM TurBoss: 75%
09:51 PM Tom_L: woot!
09:51 PM Lcvette: works?
09:51 PM Tom_L: does it only work full screen?
09:52 PM Lcvette: \o/
09:52 PM Lcvette: hurray!
09:52 PM TurBoss: press f11
09:52 PM Lcvette: yes
09:52 PM Lcvette: full screen
09:52 PM Tom_L: that wasn't in the manual :)
09:52 PM Lcvette: was designed for full screen use
09:52 PM Lcvette: needed every morsel of screen
09:52 PM Lcvette: lol
09:53 PM Tom_L: should be scalable
09:53 PM Lcvette: ahm ahm ahm ahm
09:53 PM Lcvette: 1080p
09:53 PM Lcvette: its scalable any size you want
09:54 PM Lcvette: as long as its full screen 1080p
09:54 PM Lcvette: :D
09:54 PM TurBoss: lol
09:54 PM Lcvette: lol
09:55 PM Tom_L: so it wouldn't work on my mill anyway
09:56 PM Tom_L: Lcvette the new probe basic install works.... you should try it!
10:04 PM Lcvette: Turboss is ok to try now?
10:04 PM Lcvette: Uninstall old qtpyvcp?
10:05 PM Tom_L: i have my doubts
10:05 PM Lcvette: Save my configs
10:05 PM TurBoss: no
10:05 PM Lcvette: No Install yet?
10:05 PM TurBoss: qtpyvcp can't be uninstalled
10:05 PM TurBoss: I mean is a must
10:06 PM Lcvette: Bit the Deb's are all that we need I thought?
10:06 PM Lcvette: I have three lines of code
10:06 PM TurBoss: Lcvette: you may first need to merge config branch to master
10:07 PM TurBoss: just drag config tag to master one
10:07 PM Lcvette: How to do?
10:07 PM TurBoss: a menu will show
10:07 PM TurBoss: merge?
10:07 PM TurBoss: yes
10:07 PM Lcvette: Yes
10:07 PM TurBoss: merge or rebase
10:07 PM Lcvette: You are driving
10:07 PM Lcvette: You tell me
10:07 PM TurBoss: no
10:07 PM Lcvette: Lol
10:08 PM Tom_L: google is driving
10:08 PM Tom_L: watch out
10:10 PM Lcvette: i don't know what to do in the gitkraken
10:10 PM TurBoss: are you on the dev machine now?
10:11 PM TurBoss: will show the timeline
10:11 PM TurBoss: 2 tags
10:11 PM TurBoss: master and config
10:12 PM Lcvette: im at dev now
10:12 PM TurBoss: please show hw the kraken shows
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10:13 PM Lcvette: turboss ^^^
10:13 PM TurBoss: ok
10:14 PM TurBoss: now drag configs into latest master
10:14 PM TurBoss: a menu will popup
10:14 PM TurBoss: merge config into master
10:14 PM TurBoss: or rebase into master
10:14 PM TurBoss: you can choose one
10:15 PM TurBoss: if success show pls
10:18 PM Lcvette: i sc rewed everything up
10:18 PM Lcvette: none of the maters are together
10:19 PM Lcvette: this sucks
10:19 PM Lcvette: i was not ready for this
10:19 PM Lcvette: ytou guys need owner control of it
10:19 PM Lcvette: turboss
10:20 PM Lcvette: i undud
10:20 PM Lcvette: how do i give you master control
10:24 PM TurBoss: sorry was away
10:24 PM TurBoss: I'll check latter
10:27 PM TurBoss: brb
10:28 PM Lcvette: k
10:28 PM Lcvette: lcvette pours a scotch and lights a cigar
10:28 PM Lcvette: melt the panic away
10:34 PM TurBoss: :)
10:34 PM TurBoss: done
10:34 PM TurBoss: master is up
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10:34 PM TurBoss: click on the +1
10:34 PM TurBoss: is ok to remove configs
10:34 PM Lcvette: ok
10:34 PM Lcvette: how come i can't catch up lcvette master?
10:34 PM TurBoss: yes
10:34 PM TurBoss: double click on top master
10:34 PM Lcvette: do i delete the old lcvette master?
10:34 PM TurBoss: no
10:35 PM Lcvette: ok, what to do?
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10:35 PM TurBoss: did you double clicked on the master shown when over the +1?
10:35 PM TurBoss: coool!
10:35 PM TurBoss: now setupstream
10:36 PM TurBoss: to Lcvette
10:36 PM TurBoss: and push
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10:37 PM Lcvette: \o/
10:37 PM Lcvette: now it will install this newest when pip install?
10:41 PM TurBoss: pip install --upgrade git+https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic
10:41 PM Lcvette: Or we need a version release?
10:41 PM TurBoss: * pip install --upgrade git+https://github.com/kcjengr/probe_basic.git
10:41 PM TurBoss: no
10:41 PM TurBoss: is ok
10:42 PM Lcvette: So I'm confused about qtpyvcp
10:42 PM TurBoss: ok
10:43 PM TurBoss: qtpyvcp is required to run probebasic
10:43 PM Lcvette: is probe basic on the qtpyvcp still?
10:43 PM TurBoss: yes
10:44 PM Lcvette: so why does it need its own repository?
10:44 PM Lcvette: seems like more steps?
10:44 PM TurBoss: will be nuked from qtpyvcp
10:44 PM Lcvette: :o
10:44 PM TurBoss: soon
10:45 PM Lcvette: seems odd
10:45 PM TurBoss: maybe tomorrot
10:45 PM TurBoss: * maybe tomorrow
10:45 PM TurBoss: why?
10:45 PM TurBoss: now yu have more freedom
10:45 PM Lcvette: because alot of people wanted probe basic
10:45 PM TurBoss: * now yuo have more freedom
10:45 PM Lcvette: seemed like a good full interface to be part of qtpyvcp
10:46 PM TurBoss: 😐️
10:46 PM TurBoss: yes
10:46 PM Lcvette: now is more steps to get it
10:46 PM TurBoss: no
10:46 PM TurBoss: wait
10:46 PM Lcvette: and now probe basic still requires downloading qtpyvcp
10:47 PM Lcvette: so what am i missing?
10:47 PM TurBoss: but will be automatically
10:47 PM Lcvette: oh so probe basic repository will download qtpyvcp automatically?
10:47 PM TurBoss: yes
10:47 PM TurBoss: in the future will be pip install probe_basic
10:47 PM TurBoss: just tha
10:47 PM TurBoss: * just that
10:48 PM Lcvette: but now we no longer test changes to qtpyvcp with probe basic before it gets upgraded
10:48 PM Lcvette: so if there are issues what happens?
10:48 PM TurBoss: hmmm
10:49 PM Lcvette: people download to their machines and issues happen and boom?
10:49 PM Lcvette: crash or something stops working?
10:49 PM TurBoss: :D
10:49 PM TurBoss: \o/
10:50 PM Lcvette: seems to me like probe basic being so robust would be the pefect test bed for changes in qtpyvcp
10:50 PM Lcvette: i thought thats what the plan was
10:50 PM TurBoss: it can continue
10:50 PM TurBoss: we need a pip package
10:51 PM Lcvette: seems to me like the best way would to have options for all of the guis to be an optional install from qtpyvcp
10:52 PM TurBoss: no please not like linuxcnc
10:52 PM Lcvette: so users could select the interface they wanted such as juariacnc, probe basic, mill touch etc and make their own changes from there no?
10:52 PM TurBoss: that ships 200 ui
10:52 PM Lcvette: no i agree
10:52 PM Lcvette: but have individual pips for each available from the qtpyvcp home
10:53 PM TurBoss: yes
10:53 PM Lcvette: so you don't install ALL of them, just the one you want
10:53 PM TurBoss: es
10:53 PM TurBoss: yes
10:53 PM TurBoss: we need to document that better
10:54 PM Lcvette: that way maybe there is a page for each ui available from qtpyvcp
10:54 PM Lcvette: with sample screen shots etc
10:54 PM Lcvette: similar to now but instead of getting all in one download you can select just one
10:54 PM Lcvette: does that make sense?
10:55 PM TurBoss: do you have 3 or 4 screenshots of pb that you may want to show on there?
10:55 PM TurBoss: yes
10:55 PM TurBoss: qtpyvcp is the core
10:55 PM Lcvette: i can give as many as you want
10:55 PM Lcvette: correct
10:55 PM Lcvette: but from my perspective as a user who isn't versed in linux, repositorys and github etc is scary
10:56 PM Lcvette: the goal was to be able to easily convert mach3 users i thought
10:56 PM TurBoss: you don't need them to install
10:56 PM Lcvette: right
10:56 PM TurBoss: jus pip
10:56 PM Lcvette: so it shuold be easy and simple one stp shop on the main qtpyvcp
10:57 PM Lcvette: so from the main qtpyvcp have a page with examples of each and their own pip install guides
10:57 PM Lcvette: thsat way it remains somewhat centralized but doesn't become a bloated install with stuff you don't want
10:57 PM TurBoss: the new user only may need
10:57 PM TurBoss: install the linuxcnc iso
10:57 PM TurBoss: all the apt requirements
10:58 PM TurBoss: and then
10:58 PM TurBoss: pip install probe_basic
10:58 PM Lcvette: pip probe_basic or pip juariacnc
10:58 PM TurBoss: and should be done
10:58 PM TurBoss: yes!
10:58 PM Lcvette: yes
10:58 PM TurBoss: do you like this way?
10:58 PM Lcvette: but i feel like they should be available from the main qtpyvcp site still
10:58 PM TurBoss: qtpyvcp is transparent for the user
10:58 PM Lcvette: yes
10:59 PM Lcvette: correct
10:59 PM Tom_L: Lcvette are you starting over on a fresh install?
10:59 PM Lcvette: unless they want dev
10:59 PM TurBoss: yes
10:59 PM Lcvette: not yet
10:59 PM Lcvette: tom_l
10:59 PM TurBoss: if dev is wanted more steps required
10:59 PM TurBoss: but not much
10:59 PM TurBoss: just 2 or 3
10:59 PM Lcvette: but those could be listed under same as now just on each gui's page
11:00 PM Lcvette: probe basic install then below dev install
11:00 PM Lcvette: juariacnc install then under dev install on each page
11:00 PM TurBoss: we have to wait for hazz*y to create the pip package
11:00 PM Lcvette: things get difficult for me when you must combine steps from multiple places
11:01 PM Lcvette: seems thats when things go sideways for non linux users
11:01 PM TurBoss: you are a dev
11:01 PM Lcvette: i am a deg
11:01 PM TurBoss: you are the probe_basic dev
11:01 PM Lcvette: degenerate dev
11:01 PM Tom_L: mmm i thought jt had a tutorial for installing everything
11:01 PM Lcvette: he does
11:01 PM TurBoss: https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com/
11:01 PM Lcvette: but its for installing "ALL" examples
11:02 PM TurBoss: code goes fastest than do
11:02 PM TurBoss: * code goes fastest than doc
11:02 PM Lcvette: we are discussing having each ui have its own page with the full install instruction for just that ui and dev option
11:02 PM Tom_L: the qtpyvcp part should be the same for all of em
11:02 PM Lcvette: now that the ui's are in seperate repositories the installation could become difficult
11:02 PM TurBoss: yup
11:02 PM Lcvette: for novices
11:02 PM TurBoss: no
11:02 PM Lcvette: like me
11:03 PM TurBoss: in 2 days will be supper easy
11:03 PM Lcvette: if you put me on a page and say copy these to terminal im ok
11:03 PM Tom_L: so have one for the basic qtpyvcp then have others for individual gui
11:03 PM Lcvette: but when things go away from that in linux.. its the end of the world as I know it
11:03 PM Tom_L: from where it left off
11:03 PM Lcvette: tom_L exactly
11:04 PM Lcvette: a page for each with full install instructions on the individual pages
11:04 PM Lcvette: no not from where it leaves off
11:04 PM Tom_L: and not everybody wants or needs the dev part
11:05 PM Lcvette: instead of having a master install with all examples this allows the user to install only the gui of choice and below that install the dev option if they so choose to play with the gui they selected
11:05 PM Lcvette: same as whats now but on individual pages
11:05 PM Tom_L: lcnc currently installs with all it's gui
11:05 PM Tom_L: you just call the one you want
11:05 PM Tom_L: i realize that's impractical for this
11:05 PM TurBoss: Id love to have a linuxcnc-core version
11:06 PM TurBoss: i tried to sript the makefile
11:06 PM TurBoss: but is huge
11:06 PM Tom_L: yeah
11:06 PM TurBoss: compile without gtk2 etc
11:07 PM Tom_L: anyway, it's late and i've got an early day tomorrow
11:07 PM Tom_L: bye
11:07 PM TurBoss: bye
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11:08 PM Lcvette: like such
11:09 PM Lcvette: tom_l
11:09 PM TurBoss: \o/
11:09 PM Lcvette: ^^^
11:09 PM TurBoss: or...
11:10 PM TurBoss: is ok
11:10 PM TurBoss: no or
11:10 PM Lcvette: lol
11:10 PM Lcvette: guis for dummies this way
11:10 PM Lcvette: works easier
11:10 PM TurBoss: hurray!
11:11 PM Lcvette: that way if someone says wow i love that gui where can i get it you can send them straight to the gui's page and they can install 1,2,3 celebration time!
11:11 PM Lcvette: hurray!
11:11 PM Lcvette: party time
11:11 PM TurBoss: probe_basic.com
11:11 PM TurBoss: buy fast
11:11 PM Lcvette: lol
11:11 PM Lcvette: no way
11:11 PM TurBoss: ~o~
11:11 PM Lcvette: no profits
11:11 PM Lcvette: just expenses
11:11 PM Lcvette: lol
11:12 PM TurBoss: xD
11:12 PM TurBoss: profit comes from support
11:12 PM Lcvette: support?
11:12 PM Lcvette: hazzy don't want support
11:12 PM TurBoss: if someone wnats ob in their machine
11:12 PM TurBoss: * if someone wnats pb in their machine
11:12 PM Lcvette: i tried to setup a funding page for him
11:13 PM TurBoss: and maybe wants to pay for profesional support
11:13 PM Lcvette: ah yes
11:13 PM Lcvette: there are times when its frustrating enough to want to do that
11:13 PM TurBoss: then can call you
11:13 PM Lcvette: i feel sometimes open source is not ideal for the end user
11:13 PM Tom_L: 404
11:14 PM TurBoss: why?
11:14 PM Tom_L: only brave souls use open source
11:14 PM TurBoss: you can contact the dev thru irc
11:14 PM Tom_L: 404 on probe_basic.com
11:14 PM Tom_L: :D
11:14 PM Lcvette: because there support would end up costing more then the non open source software that didn't need support
11:14 PM Lcvette: 404?
11:14 PM Lcvette: availability is good then
11:14 PM Lcvette: lol
11:14 PM TurBoss: he tried to join porbe_basic.com
11:15 PM TurBoss: is not owned by us
11:15 PM Tom_L: i knew it wasn't there
11:15 PM Lcvette: he was testing availability
11:15 PM TurBoss: ah
11:15 PM TurBoss: xD
11:15 PM TurBoss: TurBoSerVices.com
11:15 PM TurBoss: oh it exist
11:15 PM TurBoss: :|
11:16 PM TurBoss: turbotrollservices.com
11:16 PM TurBoss: that one
11:16 PM Lcvette: lol
11:16 PM Lcvette: turbocoder.com
11:17 PM Lcvette: only $3995
11:17 PM TurBoss: oh...
11:17 PM TurBoss: not for me
11:17 PM Lcvette: lol
11:17 PM TurBoss: I spent al the moneys on the house ☹️
11:17 PM TurBoss: now I'm as poor as a rat
11:17 PM Lcvette: you bought a house?
11:18 PM Lcvette: \o/
11:18 PM TurBoss: reformed old one
11:18 PM Lcvette: thats great
11:18 PM Lcvette: now the value is incresased
11:18 PM TurBoss: yea is cool looks new
11:18 PM Lcvette: thats great
11:18 PM TurBoss: new floor walls doors windows kitchen
11:18 PM TurBoss: and wc
11:18 PM TurBoss: all
11:18 PM TurBoss: gone crazy
11:18 PM Tom_L: i dug a basement under mine
11:19 PM TurBoss: nice
11:19 PM Tom_L: not recently
11:19 PM TurBoss: I need a place the server its really noisy
11:19 PM TurBoss: I'll dig
11:19 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/house/1.jpg
11:20 PM Lcvette: lcvette needs to do some more organizational projects inthe shop its getting crowded
11:20 PM Lcvette: 4 cars and 3 bikes and all the tools benches projects
11:20 PM Lcvette: need to build a steel rack for under the bench that rolls out for easy access
11:21 PM Tom_L: you can only drive one car at a time
11:21 PM Lcvette: they are development cars
11:21 PM Lcvette: for my company
11:21 PM TurBoss: lol
11:21 PM Lcvette: for parts design
11:21 PM Tom_L: ahh
11:21 PM TurBoss: they need more steps
11:21 PM Tom_L: oh that's right.. you do beemer stuff right?
11:22 PM Lcvette: bmw 135i n55, bmw 335i n54, bmw 335i fseries
11:22 PM Lcvette: yup
11:23 PM TurBoss: nice!
11:23 PM Tom_L: they need all the help they can get...
11:23 PM Tom_L: :)
11:23 PM Lcvette: time to start moving one of them for a newer model for product development
11:23 PM TurBoss: :)
11:23 PM Lcvette: im not gonna complain about bmw, they put a roof over my head
11:23 PM Lcvette: lol
11:24 PM Tom_L: i rebuilt a 2002 once
11:24 PM TurBoss: :)
11:24 PM Lcvette: nice
11:24 PM Tom_L: engine that is
11:24 PM Lcvette: those cars were nice
11:25 PM Tom_L: tight valve clearance
11:25 PM Lcvette: highly sought after today
11:25 PM TurBoss: I used to have a 325i without any tech
11:25 PM TurBoss: just gas
11:25 PM TurBoss: difting was fun
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11:26 PM TurBoss: is that a m1?
11:26 PM Lcvette: nice lines
11:26 PM Lcvette: light weight
11:26 PM Lcvette: 2002
11:26 PM Lcvette: tii
11:26 PM Tom_L: ok this time i am goin to bed... really..
11:27 PM Lcvette: night tom
11:27 PM Lcvette: turboss, in kraken if i make changes do i need to branch?
11:27 PM TurBoss: if you want
11:27 PM Lcvette: ok
11:27 PM TurBoss: i like to branch for feature
11:28 PM TurBoss: so things don't get mixed
11:28 PM Lcvette: but for small fixes just stay in master
11:28 PM TurBoss: i can dev 2 separated things
11:28 PM TurBoss: yes
11:28 PM Lcvette: you are masterdev
11:28 PM TurBoss: just commit to master
11:28 PM Lcvette: k
11:42 PM TurBoss: https://pypi.org/project/jcnc/
11:42 PM Lcvette: that your juariacnc website?
11:44 PM TurBoss: i just made a pip package
11:44 PM TurBoss: to see how to do with pb
11:51 PM Lcvette: yeah?
11:51 PM Lcvette: nice!!