#garfield Logs
Jul 05 2023
#garfield Calendar
04:38 AM Tom_L: nice
04:50 AM Tom_L: add some X braces
04:50 AM Tom_L: they can be shorter corner ones but you need them
07:30 AM rue_mohr: yup, I dont want those legs folding!
08:11 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/trike3/p1280902.jpg
08:12 AM rue_mohr: it was kinda sunny to be trying to take photos
08:13 AM Tom_L: ride ok?
08:14 AM rue_mohr: yup
08:14 AM rue_mohr: suspension wouldn't hurt
08:14 AM rue_mohr: bit late
08:15 AM Tom_L: how far is town?
08:15 AM rue_mohr: ...
08:15 AM Tom_L: take it to get supplies
08:15 AM rue_mohr: yea, light groceries
08:15 AM Tom_L: would need a tall flag on it
08:15 AM Tom_L: or do they do that up there?
08:15 AM Tom_L: orange flag
08:18 AM rue_mohr: 3.5km
08:18 AM rue_mohr: I think I'd be fine
08:19 AM Tom_L: long walk if it broke down
08:19 AM rue_mohr: yea!
08:19 AM Tom_L: how confident are you in your work?
08:19 AM Tom_L: :)
08:19 AM rue_mohr: going up and down the street, everyting seems to beok
08:20 AM rue_mohr: I dont want to be in a hurry, hence waiting for the weekend
08:20 AM rue_mohr: take it to the bike shop on sat :]
08:21 AM rue_mohr: shiny new reflectors?
08:21 AM Tom_L: blinky light
08:21 AM rue_mohr: pff I can do that..
08:22 AM rue_mohr: back to work today..
08:22 AM rue_mohr: try to get off my but
08:22 AM Tom_L: fun
08:22 AM Tom_L: i'm back from a false alarm and not much else going on
08:22 AM rue_mohr: I'll get some ~1.25" fine thread bolts for table feet
08:22 AM rue_mohr: after work
08:23 AM Tom_L: o
08:23 AM rue_mohr: put that on and the cross peices
08:23 AM Tom_L: i'd get regular thread
08:23 AM rue_mohr: I did regular on the lathe and it was a bit too sensitive
08:23 AM Tom_L: maybe won't matter but the weight could strip the fine ones
08:23 AM rue_mohr: ?
08:23 AM Tom_L: for leveling?
08:23 AM rue_mohr: there might be like 200lbs worst case on them
08:23 AM rue_mohr: feet yea
08:24 AM Tom_L: ok
08:24 AM rue_mohr: about 1.25" dia
08:24 AM Tom_L: either one would probably do
08:24 AM Tom_L: i used 1/2 13 on mine
08:24 AM rue_mohr: this time I'll take the printing off the bolt head so it doesn't chew the floor
08:24 AM Tom_L: or whatever the thread was
08:25 AM rue_mohr: I want the big head for weight spreading
08:25 AM rue_mohr: the cnc machine isn't centered
08:25 AM rue_mohr: the motor for X throws it a bit sideways
09:34 AM aandrew: polprog: I was wondering what your supernets post was about, I got spammed by them too
07:03 PM rue_mohr: I got feet bolts for the cnc table
07:03 PM rue_mohr: $87 :-S
07:03 PM rue_mohr: ah well, money need to go into something
07:08 PM Tom_L: wow
07:08 PM Tom_L: i can help you spend some on electronics...
07:08 PM rue_mohr: hehe
07:09 PM rue_mohr: I'm gonna need a set of tooling
07:09 PM rue_mohr: I expect another $80
07:09 PM Tom_L: i need to see these bolts...
07:09 PM Tom_L: expect more
07:09 PM Tom_L: vise, collets, endmills....
07:09 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1280908.jpg
07:09 PM Tom_L: that's crazy
07:10 PM rue_mohr: I might have gone farther than I needed to
07:10 PM rue_mohr: I'm going with it now
07:10 PM Tom_L: i'm almost sure of it
07:10 PM Tom_L: but it is what it is
07:10 PM rue_mohr: for the bottom of the table leg
07:10 PM rue_mohr: adjustable foot
07:10 PM Tom_L: 12mm would have been plenty
07:10 PM rue_mohr: rated good for 200lbs
07:11 PM Tom_L: i know where it's for
07:11 PM rue_mohr: :)
07:11 PM rue_mohr: I used smaller on the lathe, but it was course thread and I had to fight with it
07:11 PM rue_mohr: I saved a LOT on the cnc
07:12 PM Tom_L: you frustrate me sometimes
07:12 PM Tom_L: i'm sure i do you as well
07:12 PM rue_mohr: sorry
07:12 PM rue_mohr: hah
07:12 PM rue_mohr: I dont want any side wiggle
07:12 PM rue_mohr: and I want to spread the load as much as I can to the floor
07:12 PM Tom_L: it's not _that_ big a machine
07:12 PM rue_mohr: floor is only 4"
07:13 PM Tom_L: something like this might require that much stability: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/cincinnati/Cincinnati_6.jpg
07:13 PM rue_mohr: I'm worried about how high that cnc will be
07:13 PM rue_mohr: heh
07:13 PM Tom_L: make the legs shorter
07:13 PM Tom_L: simple solution
07:13 PM Tom_L: mine is waist high
07:14 PM rue_mohr: working with the existing bench
07:14 PM Tom_L: the steel table is slightly shorter than cabinet level
07:14 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Drillpress.jpg
07:14 PM Tom_L: i've had that table since i was a kid
07:14 PM Tom_L: 1/2" plate
07:15 PM rue_mohr: yea, a lack descent plate
07:15 PM rue_mohr: the cnc will be sitting directly on the cross bars of the steel table
07:17 PM Tom_L: tried to find a pic to compare steel table height to the cabinet: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Paint/Paint5.jpg
07:17 PM Tom_L: cabinet top, table upper right corner
07:18 PM Tom_L: maybe 5" shorter/
07:18 PM Tom_L: ?
07:18 PM Tom_L: you kinda want the work plate at waist level
07:18 PM Tom_L: not at poke your eye out level
07:18 PM rue_shop3: my normal tables are pretty flimsy
07:19 PM rue_shop3: hmm, the washers I got were a big big
07:19 PM rue_shop3: measuring might have been an idea
07:19 PM Tom_L: uh huh
07:23 PM Tom_L: so the steel table is 30" and the cnc table is 39"
07:23 PM Tom_L: and that's just about right for loading parts etc
07:24 PM rue_shop3: my bench is 37..
07:25 PM rue_shop3: +9 to the cnc bed
07:25 PM Tom_L: if you set the cnc on that height i'm afraid it will be too tall
07:25 PM Tom_L: unless that's what you prefer
07:25 PM Tom_L: more wobble room too
07:26 PM rue_shop3: its on the table, and so is the bench
07:26 PM Tom_L: add a vise to that too
07:26 PM rue_shop3: the cnc table will be holding the bench up
07:26 PM rue_shop3: yea. might be a bit high
07:26 PM rue_shop3: there is nowhere else I can put it
07:27 PM Tom_L: make a work platform in front then
07:27 PM Tom_L: just saying, i'm more comfortable at that height
07:29 PM rue_shop3: 24 from top of machien to cieling... :/
07:29 PM rue_shop3: hmm
07:30 PM Tom_L: i mounted my control to the wall too
07:32 PM rue_shop3: yea, not sure that to do with the controller and laptop for this
07:32 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Spindle/Control_Pannel2.jpg
07:32 PM Tom_L: the pc is on a shelf to the right
07:32 PM Tom_L: monitor mounted to the wall
07:33 PM Tom_L: no room in the cabinet for the vfd but i'm not sure i'd put it in there anyway
07:33 PM rue_shop3: might be a good time for me to make a really strange "engine lift"
07:33 PM Tom_L: rent a cherry picker
07:33 PM rue_shop3: 500lbs?
07:33 PM rue_shop3: in the shop?
07:34 PM Tom_L: engines are more than that
07:34 PM Tom_L: maybe no room to manuver it in the shop
07:34 PM rue_shop3: yea, it can be a bit strange for an engine lift
07:35 PM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/lift-tables/b?node=256370011
07:35 PM Tom_L: find one of those to borrow/rent
07:36 PM Tom_L: or get a couple buds to help lift it
07:37 PM Tom_L: i've so far been able to move all my stuff save the 80gal compressor myself
07:37 PM Tom_L: a mover buddy did that as a favor
07:38 PM rue_shop3: mmm
07:38 PM rue_shop3: I wonder how high the one at the hospital goes
07:38 PM Tom_L: probably high enough you can block it up for the rest maybe?
07:39 PM Tom_L: those are probably typically cabinet height (24") approx
07:39 PM Tom_L: err maybe 30
07:43 PM rue_shop3: it has to get lifted into the shop anyhow
07:43 PM rue_shop3: so, plausible
07:45 PM Tom_L: get it out of the weather!!
09:25 PM rue_mohr: I'm trying, its not 50lbs...
09:26 PM Tom_L: yeah yeah
09:26 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1280909.jpg
09:27 PM rue_mohr: ...
09:27 PM rue_mohr: I might need help moving the table in....
09:27 PM rue_mohr: tommorow I move a LOT of stuff out from under the existing table
09:27 PM rue_mohr: then slip that under
09:28 PM rue_mohr: then move the sherline *somewhere*
09:28 PM rue_mohr: then put all the stuff back
09:29 PM Tom_L: table looks sturdier now
09:29 PM rue_mohr: it'll have the bench trying to hold it too
09:30 PM Tom_L: the braces would have worked in the corners though
09:30 PM rue_mohr: I wanted to give them as much room as I could
09:30 PM Tom_L: but then i can't see how thick the legs etc are
09:30 PM rue_mohr: all hope is lost if for some reason it decides to fold
09:32 PM Tom_L: make the welds good
09:33 PM rue_mohr: I think they all have enough grab
09:33 PM rue_mohr: I often want to full bead everything and its not needed
09:33 PM rue_mohr: the middle cross bars are, cause their taking all the load
09:33 PM Tom_L: yeah i learned my lesson on that
09:33 PM Tom_L: and got warpage
09:34 PM rue_mohr: I did warp the side to side members
09:34 PM Tom_L: so 1" beads along a long piece worked better
09:34 PM rue_mohr: they warped up
09:34 PM rue_mohr: so its got some preload on it now :)
09:35 PM rue_mohr: its all gonna hold the existing bench in place really well
09:35 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/Z_Motormount1.jpg
09:36 PM Tom_L: on the Z support i did 1" every so often and that turned out real good
09:36 PM rue_mohr: :)
09:39 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Z_Column_Standoff1.jpg
09:39 PM Tom_L: part of that one i did solid and got warpage but i somewhat fixed it
09:41 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/Z_Axis_standoff_new.jpg
09:41 PM Tom_L: one side is solid where the other is broken in strips of bead
09:42 PM Tom_L: alot flatter after welding but i did manage to fix it
09:42 PM rue_mohr: I once managed to use the welder to intentionally warp something
09:42 PM rue_mohr: beads always pull
09:51 PM Tom_L: what do you use for cad for your grbl stuff now?
09:51 PM rue_mohr: librecad
09:52 PM rue_mohr: cam is still that windows program
09:52 PM Tom_L: which?
09:52 PM rue_mohr: but apparently they have a working linux version
09:52 PM rue_mohr: bamcam
09:52 PM rue_mohr: 2.5d
09:52 PM Tom_L: mmm
09:52 PM rue_mohr: cambam?
09:52 PM Tom_L: yeah something like that
09:53 PM Tom_L: you should set that cad i gave you up on the windows box
09:53 PM rue_mohr: suppose I'd better find some collets
09:53 PM rue_mohr: R8
09:53 PM Tom_L: metric?
09:54 PM rue_mohr: yea, I need to sit down and re-re everything
09:54 PM rue_mohr: supposedly imperial
09:54 PM Tom_L: https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=1604
09:54 PM Tom_L: basic set
09:54 PM rue_mohr: going price is about $7
09:55 PM rue_mohr: +shipping
09:55 PM rue_mohr: I should probably get a chuck too
09:55 PM rue_mohr: not sure how that works
09:56 PM Tom_L: adapters
09:56 PM rue_mohr: oh
09:56 PM Tom_L: https://www.traverscanada.com/product/ttc-r8-rot-collet-set-69-510-070
09:56 PM Tom_L: bigger set in ca
09:56 PM rue_mohr: then I could use a chuck from the lathe
09:56 PM rue_mohr: inverse taper
09:57 PM Tom_L: my bud used to order from travers here
09:57 PM Tom_L: didn't know they were ca also
09:58 PM rue_mohr: wish the specifically said the sizez
09:58 PM rue_mohr: so I have a 3/8"
09:58 PM Tom_L: probably 1/8" steps
09:58 PM Tom_L: see if that adds up to the number there
09:59 PM rue_mohr: I should get a 1/8
09:59 PM Tom_L: + 7/8
09:59 PM rue_mohr: mmm
09:59 PM Tom_L: but you may not need a full set
09:59 PM rue_mohr: yea
09:59 PM rue_mohr: maybe 3.8, 1/4, and 1/8
09:59 PM Tom_L: .125, .250, .375 is about all that mill will do probably
09:59 PM rue_mohr: for the bits I use
09:59 PM Tom_L: maybe .500
09:59 PM rue_mohr: mmm
10:00 PM Tom_L: i've used .500 but just for truing stock
10:00 PM rue_mohr: https://www.amazon.ca/Heavy-Duty-Drill-Chuck-Arbor/dp/B09VGNJ9WN
10:00 PM Tom_L: india
10:00 PM Tom_L: maybe better than china?
10:00 PM rue_mohr: hah
10:00 PM Tom_L: maybe not
10:01 PM rue_mohr: better than I need? proabably
10:01 PM Tom_L: i got a good jacobs chuck for mine and i got a knockoff
10:01 PM rue_mohr: too bad about the other taper, cant use it for milling too then
10:01 PM Tom_L: i like the jacobs much better but both work
10:01 PM rue_mohr: I wonder what taper is on the lathe chuck
10:01 PM rue_mohr: smacked it in there pretty good last time
10:02 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/cutters/Tool_Holder1.jpg
10:02 PM Tom_L: mmm i don't see it there
10:02 PM Tom_L: must have gotten the adapters for them after that
10:02 PM Tom_L: but that's why i stay with the sherline spindle.. i have all those holders
10:02 PM rue_mohr: without a cnc lathe I dont fancy making individual holders
10:03 PM rue_mohr: yep
10:03 PM Tom_L: i tried and couldn't get them accurate enough
10:03 PM Tom_L: i have bored some out for bigger cutters though
10:03 PM rue_mohr: well, I can prolly expect about another $200 or so
10:03 PM rue_mohr: I can pull some bits from the mill I have in buddies garage
10:03 PM Tom_L: + the card i suggested for you :D
10:03 PM rue_mohr: :]
10:03 PM rue_mohr: see if I can stage all this
10:04 PM rue_mohr: take a while to get the existing controller up
10:04 PM rue_mohr: but its straight forward
10:04 PM Tom_L: for that card you'd need a pc with decent latency but not super
10:04 PM rue_mohr: that jacobs set is $53
10:04 PM Tom_L: it's got isolation built on it
10:04 PM rue_mohr: and shipping is 9
10:04 PM rue_mohr: that sounds like a pretty good price
10:04 PM Tom_L: hah only one left
10:05 PM rue_mohr: sadjkfhaskldf
10:05 PM Tom_L: Extended delivery time: This item is fulfilled by Amazon from outside of Canada
10:06 PM Tom_L: also, 1/32nd to 1/2"
10:06 PM Tom_L: my good jacobs closes down all the way
10:06 PM Tom_L: newer ones don't do that
10:06 PM Tom_L: for what we do it probably doesn't matter
10:08 PM rue_mohr: went for it
10:08 PM rue_mohr: see if I regret that, maybe I can fit one of the better chucks from the lathe if there are issues
10:08 PM Tom_L: it won't matter unless you get the mill out of the weather :)
10:09 PM rue_mohr: its under a tent
10:09 PM Tom_L: hope so
10:09 PM rue_mohr: oh!
10:09 PM rue_mohr: https://www.amazon.ca/INPANOLS-R8-ER32-Collet-Set/dp/B09NBK8VHM/ref=sr_1_4_sspa
10:09 PM rue_mohr: hello
10:10 PM Tom_L: i was gonna suggest that
10:10 PM rue_mohr: I dont know if the parts I collected to make a mill were for ER32 or not...
10:10 PM Tom_L: figure out what you got before you get too much
10:11 PM Tom_L: would make it easier to change tooling
10:11 PM Tom_L: instead of the rod at the top of the spindle
10:12 PM Tom_L: that set is in 1/16 increments
10:14 PM Tom_L: with that setup you have to zero each tool as they come up. with mine i can change holders and preset all my tools
10:14 PM Tom_L: so you would be running one tool path at a time
10:14 PM Tom_L: which isn't a big deal, just inconvenient
10:15 PM rue_shop3: ER16
10:15 PM rue_shop3: I wonder if there is an R8 to ER16
10:15 PM Tom_L: that's up to what? 8mm capacity?
10:15 PM Tom_L: find out the max capacity of the holder series
10:15 PM Tom_L: i don't know alot about ER
10:15 PM rue_shop3: ER16 is much smaller
10:16 PM Tom_L: i know
10:16 PM Tom_L: i think 8mm tops capacity but not positive
10:16 PM rue_shop3: I actually have a really hefty box of $$$ parts for building a cnc :/
10:16 PM rue_shop3: gonna guilt myself into still building one
10:16 PM Tom_L: ebay them and get stuff for this
10:16 PM Tom_L: or build it... you only have so much time
10:17 PM rue_shop3: I even did a controller box up
10:17 PM rue_shop3: yea
10:17 PM Tom_L: stay focused :)
10:17 PM rue_shop3: my one evening projects are taking me months
10:17 PM rue_shop3: hah, FOCUSED ON WHAT THO!
10:17 PM rue_shop3: :]
10:17 PM Tom_L: seems this for now
10:17 PM Tom_L: you finished the bike
10:18 PM Tom_L: you did up the table
10:18 PM rue_shop3: I'm starting to think life gives me a kick when I get stuck taking too long to do something
10:18 PM rue_shop3: I didn't finish my welder or lathe
10:18 PM Tom_L: burnout
10:18 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:18 PM rue_shop3: what about the 12' mecha?
10:18 PM rue_shop3: }:/
10:18 PM Tom_L: what about it?
10:18 PM rue_shop3: its not done yet!
10:18 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:18 PM Tom_L: seems like a pretty big project
10:19 PM Tom_L: should do managable ones you can finish
10:19 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:20 PM Tom_L: and the wall mounted cnc...
10:20 PM rue_shop3: I need to learn how to make my managable projects bigger
10:20 PM rue_shop3: thats made a lump of progress
10:20 PM rue_shop3: I'v determined I have to get the motors mounted
10:20 PM rue_shop3: this cnc might help
10:20 PM Tom_L: should be more accurate than what you currently have
10:20 PM rue_shop3: if anyhting its a decent sized manual mill
10:21 PM Tom_L: and more robust
10:21 PM rue_shop3: yea!
10:21 PM rue_shop3: and steel!
10:21 PM rue_shop3: hopefully
10:21 PM Tom_L: probably
10:21 PM Tom_L: small cutters
10:21 PM rue_shop3: how many bits was the aluminum die?
10:21 PM Tom_L: i don't remember now, 2 or 3
10:21 PM rue_shop3: ah
10:21 PM Tom_L: at least 2 ballnose
10:22 PM rue_shop3: hmm
10:22 PM rue_shop3: I'll have to get pointers on multi-bit stuff
10:22 PM Tom_L: and whatever drills it took
10:22 PM rue_shop3: get it installed and moving first...
10:22 PM Tom_L: you'll have to break the programs up by tool
10:22 PM rue_shop3: I wrote the spooler program
10:23 PM rue_shop3: I could have it just pause on tool changes
10:23 PM Tom_L: it has a bug
10:23 PM rue_shop3: many
10:23 PM Tom_L: i remember that
10:23 PM rue_shop3: oh yea, it didn't like your files
10:23 PM rue_shop3: cause there is more than one command on a line
10:23 PM Tom_L: so get that board and linuxcnc :)
10:23 PM rue_shop3: and it needs 1 command/line
10:23 PM Tom_L: and mine will run out of the box
10:23 PM rue_shop3: let me get it installed and moving first
10:24 PM rue_shop3: I REALLY hope that it doesn't get dropped going on the bench
10:24 PM Tom_L: you know i'm not gonna stop harping on that...
10:24 PM rue_shop3: life likes to give me things and then take them away
10:24 PM Tom_L: so be careful and tie safety ropes as you go
10:24 PM rue_shop3: I know :)
10:24 PM rue_shop3: to what....
10:24 PM rue_shop3: :)
10:24 PM Tom_L: rafters
10:24 PM rue_shop3: drywall cieling
10:25 PM Tom_L: so? i got holes in mine :)
10:25 PM rue_shop3: thats technically overloaded by the drywall
10:25 PM rue_shop3: vapour barrier, insulation
10:25 PM rue_shop3: I'll build a crane if I have to
10:25 PM Tom_L: run a 4x4 post and a cross just below it temporarily put in place
10:26 PM Tom_L: cheap
10:26 PM Tom_L: i rarely can't come up with a way to get something done
10:27 PM rue_mohr: the jack table might work
10:27 PM rue_mohr: I'll check how high it goes
10:27 PM Tom_L: yeah that's the best idea i could do so far
10:27 PM rue_mohr: then its "just slide it over"
10:27 PM rue_mohr: and its load rating...
10:28 PM Tom_L: it only has to work once
10:28 PM Tom_L: we won't tell them...
10:28 PM rue_mohr: its got a lifting hook, I have a hand hydraulic pack and lots of steel for making a lift
10:28 PM Tom_L: naw the table is the way to go if you can
10:28 PM rue_mohr: yes
10:29 PM rue_mohr: if I really want a crane, I can make one later
10:29 PM * rue_mohr adds it to TODO list...
10:29 PM Tom_L: don't move it by yourself just in case
10:30 PM Tom_L: i moved mine from the wood table to the metal one and it was all i could do but i did it
10:32 PM Tom_L: i don't know what it weighs but 'heavy' comes to mind
10:33 PM aandrew: yeah, that's a sweet machine... worth waiting for a buddy or two to come help lift it into place
10:33 PM aandrew: if I weren't 4000km away I'd come help for sure
10:33 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:35 PM rue_mohr: :)
10:35 PM rue_mohr: one of my buddies works moving granite slabs
10:35 PM rue_mohr: so, he's equipped for that kinda stuff
10:37 PM rue_mohr: https://twitter.com/titangilroy/status/1676577277058883584
10:37 PM rue_mohr: heh
10:38 PM Tom_L: that's like the mechanical ones i used to run
10:38 PM rue_mohr: yea
10:38 PM rue_mohr: thats waht made me chuckle
10:39 PM Tom_L: did lots of parts similar
10:39 PM rue_mohr: I wonder how long they can do a run for
10:39 PM Tom_L: what do you mean?
10:39 PM rue_mohr: once its set up, how many parts before it needs to be retooled or something
10:40 PM Tom_L: the ones i did some ran the same parts all the time so we would have somewhat scheduled tooling changes
10:40 PM Tom_L: the others that were short runs we set up and ran the order out
10:40 PM rue_mohr: I presume there is tweaking after the tool changes
10:40 PM Tom_L: depends on the material too
10:41 PM Tom_L: yeah some
10:41 PM Tom_L: not like a full setup though
10:41 PM rue_mohr: no
10:41 PM rue_mohr: what did they do for QC?
10:41 PM rue_mohr: samples?
10:41 PM rue_mohr: against jigs or measured?
10:42 PM Tom_L: they had a QC department that came around and did random checks
10:42 PM Tom_L: blueprints
10:42 PM rue_mohr: k
10:42 PM rue_mohr: so hand measured samples
10:42 PM Tom_L: some had test gages, some were just calipers etc
10:42 PM Tom_L: yes
10:42 PM Tom_L: we're talking about 5000 parts a shift
10:43 PM Tom_L: on some
10:43 PM rue_mohr: ;)
10:43 PM rue_mohr: sit here, hold your hand over this stop button and push it if anything goes wrong, see you in 12 hours...
10:44 PM Tom_L: i knew when they'd run out of material
10:44 PM rue_mohr: no more noise :)
10:44 PM Tom_L: it was a bitch when they all ran out at the same time
10:44 PM rue_mohr: how long was the stock?
10:44 PM Tom_L: 12'
10:44 PM rue_mohr: mm
10:44 PM Tom_L: 6 or 8 bars each
10:44 PM rue_mohr: thats a good number of those small parts
10:44 PM rue_mohr: oh
10:45 PM Tom_L: they only had one 8 spindle and i ran it
10:45 PM Tom_L: along with 3 6 spindles
10:45 PM rue_mohr: ah
10:45 PM rue_mohr: I'd like to work out a self-feeding chuck and do a cnc lathe
10:46 PM rue_mohr: there have been 2 times over the last 5 years I could have used it
10:46 PM rue_mohr: :0
10:46 PM rue_mohr: :)
10:46 PM Tom_L: need a long tube so the bar doesn't whip
10:46 PM rue_mohr: yes
10:46 PM Tom_L: and fastened to the floor really well
10:46 PM rue_mohr: I had a bar whip on the lathe
10:46 PM rue_mohr: scarry as ****
10:47 PM rue_mohr: didn't expect the particular peice to do it
10:47 PM Tom_L: your clip, we would roll those OD threads
10:47 PM Tom_L: they're single pointing them
10:47 PM rue_mohr: clip?
10:48 PM Tom_L: roll threads are stronger
10:48 PM Tom_L: your twitter link
10:48 PM rue_mohr: hah oh
10:48 PM rue_mohr: forged threads
10:52 PM rue_mohr: aliexpress.com/item/1005004458163193.html
10:52 PM rue_mohr: not ER13, but...
10:53 PM rue_mohr: oh mine is 16
10:54 PM rue_mohr: too....many......options.....
10:56 PM Tom_L: make sure you know what thread the R8 top end is too
10:56 PM rue_mohr: I can just get whatever bolt is needed
10:57 PM rue_mohr: the sherline uses two
10:57 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:57 PM Tom_L: well mine is the same
10:57 PM rue_mohr: this came with an allen, and I want a hex anyhow
10:57 PM rue_mohr: make a wrench with a socket welded to it
10:58 PM aandrew: https://youtu.be/dnHdqPBrtH8 pretty cool video
10:58 PM rue_mohr: ah
10:59 PM Tom_L: time to sleep here
10:59 PM rue_mohr: ER is all metric...
11:00 PM rue_mohr: oht hre is some imperial
11:11 PM rue_shop3: oh complex
11:12 PM rue_shop3: lots of that parts in the box are for upgrading my old old machine
11:13 PM rue_mohr: and I only have one ER16 collet
11:16 PM rue_mohr: that last cnc I made uses ER11
11:17 PM rue_mohr: oh wait
11:23 PM rue_mohr: odd
11:23 PM rue_mohr: the price of the ER collects is the same as the R8 collets...
11:26 PM rue_mohr: oh here is a set
11:35 PM rue_mohr: ok I got a 6pc R8 set
11:36 PM rue_mohr: the ER16+ sets cost more
11:57 PM rue_mohr: :/
11:57 PM rue_mohr: ma cant remember anything anymore