#garfield Logs
May 24 2022
#garfield Calendar
04:49 AM Tom_L: .
08:37 AM rue_mohr: morning
11:05 AM Tom_L: morning
05:31 PM Tom_L: afternoon
05:31 PM Tom_L: .
05:31 PM Tom_L: evening
05:57 PM rue_mohr: hi
05:57 PM rue_mohr: ever quit a job?
06:10 PM Tom_L: umm not lately
06:10 PM rue_mohr: no
06:10 PM Tom_L: not that i can remember anyway
06:10 PM rue_mohr: hah
06:10 PM rue_mohr: ok
06:10 PM Tom_L: you quit?
06:10 PM rue_mohr: no this job, not yet
06:11 PM rue_mohr: I got a job at a big chain pharmacy for the express purpose of quitting, and I did
06:11 PM Tom_L: why?
06:17 PM rue_mohr: I needed to bridge between emplyment and I'd never quit
06:17 PM rue_mohr: till then it was always the company or department going under
06:17 PM Tom_L: so nothing recent
06:18 PM rue_mohr: I quit that to get this job
06:18 PM Tom_L: ahh
06:18 PM Tom_L: you been there a good number of years now
06:18 PM rue_mohr: which was supposed to be just a 9-5 simple job
06:18 PM rue_mohr: yea
06:18 PM Tom_L: you should have stock options by now :)
06:18 PM rue_mohr: the book keeper seems to be manipulating records to make it look like its not as long as it has been
06:19 PM Tom_L: oh?
06:19 PM rue_mohr: yea, they didn't include me when they just did that
06:19 PM Tom_L: why?
06:19 PM rue_mohr: I been there 2nd longest to anyone
06:19 PM rue_mohr: yea
06:20 PM rue_mohr: people who love to make messes are going managers
06:21 PM Tom_L: why, you thinkin about quitting?
06:21 PM rue_mohr: I'v seen so many people quit over the years I'v learned what the pattern looks like
06:21 PM rue_mohr: and i'm seeing myself start to do things that match
06:22 PM Tom_L: there's bound to be others around there
06:23 PM rue_mohr: even as much as 6 months ago, I'm only there cause I was
06:23 PM rue_mohr: it would just take me one good motivator and I'd go
06:23 PM rue_mohr: push or pull
06:23 PM Tom_L: start your own
06:23 PM Tom_L: you journeyman yet?
06:23 PM rue_mohr: na, I'm not hard enough with billing
06:24 PM rue_mohr: yea, but I dont have the extra stuff to make it so I can pull permits
06:24 PM Tom_L: many many moons ago i rented from a guy that started in the back of his van
06:24 PM Tom_L: now he owns a large fleet
06:25 PM Tom_L: probably a little late in the game to start from scratch too
06:44 PM rue_mohr: yep
07:29 PM rue_shop3: 15 vs 18kg
07:29 PM rue_shop3: 10cm 50cm
07:49 PM rue_mohr: so 73.5Nm and 88Nm
07:55 PM rue_mohr: oops
07:55 PM rue_mohr: no
08:01 PM rue_mohr: 58.8 and 70.6
08:08 PM rue_mohr: ok Tom_L here is a good one for ya
08:08 PM rue_mohr: can you find any document with strength data on 20x20mm aluminum tubing? thin, like 0.8mm or 1mm thcik
08:19 PM rue_mohr: most of the screwball listings probably wont way
08:19 PM rue_mohr: say
08:19 PM Tom_L: that would be soft
08:19 PM Tom_L: pretty sure
08:20 PM Tom_L: wall thickness is 2mm
08:20 PM rue_mohr: yea, I'm looking for data on 0.8 and 1mm
08:20 PM rue_mohr: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001352159238.html
08:21 PM rue_mohr: 6061
08:21 PM rue_mohr: ok, yup, lets use that then
08:22 PM Tom_L: https://www.ryerson.com/stocklist/detail/6b4d4b54-1ba1-43c0-ad82-353c203e359a
08:22 PM Tom_L: 6063
08:23 PM Tom_L: (i think)
08:23 PM Tom_L: well both are listed
08:23 PM rue_mohr: so, I need to compare these wood beams to what their using
08:24 PM rue_mohr: 6061-o being the softest?
08:25 PM rue_mohr: not sure what ksi is
08:26 PM Tom_L: O is annealed
08:26 PM Tom_L: T is tempered
08:26 PM Tom_L: T6 typical
08:26 PM rue_mohr: I'm going worst case
08:26 PM Tom_L: T651 age hardened
08:26 PM Tom_L: that stuff i sent would be worst case
08:26 PM Tom_L: T651
08:27 PM rue_mohr: :)
08:28 PM Tom_L: you saw how it bent :)
08:28 PM rue_mohr: or didn't\
08:28 PM rue_mohr: I cant hit the keys on the keybnard properly anymroe
08:28 PM Tom_L: at least you can see them
08:29 PM Tom_L: of o get pff tjem tjos os wjat ja[[ems
08:29 PM Tom_L: if i get off this is what happens
08:29 PM Tom_L: then i have to start over
08:30 PM Tom_L: afk a bit
08:34 PM rue_shop3: unclad 0.5m is 91g
08:34 PM rue_shop3: clad 0.5m is 84g
08:34 PM rue_shop3: (allow for some variation in the wood I suppose)
09:14 PM rue_shop3: the sherline based cnc died
09:14 PM rue_shop3: Tom_L, want to try a sylinder end project?
09:14 PM rue_shop3: sdfusdfuhl
09:15 PM Tom_L: ?
09:15 PM Tom_L: what died on it?
09:16 PM Tom_L: what sort of ends do you need?
09:16 PM rue_shop3: wtf,. the 5V is at 2.5V
09:16 PM rue_shop3: a chineese regulator might be at fault
09:17 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Cylinder.jpg
09:17 PM Tom_L: that was one for the helluvit during my clas
09:17 PM Tom_L: s
09:17 PM Tom_L: ss
09:17 PM Tom_L: sss
09:17 PM Tom_L: table driven
09:18 PM rue_shop3: wiggled the pot on the regulator and I have 5V back
09:18 PM rue_shop3: :)
09:18 PM rue_shop3: just cylinder end blocks
09:18 PM rue_shop3: I'm goint to try some plastic ones
09:18 PM rue_shop3: did you see the ones I cast/machined?
09:19 PM Tom_L: just a circle slot with 4 holes
09:19 PM rue_shop3: I came up with a simpler design
09:19 PM rue_shop3: ... as I was looking over5 images of $700 pneumatic cylinders online...
09:20 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project.JPG
09:20 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project1.JPG
09:21 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base.JPG
09:21 PM Tom_L: that took a bit of doing
09:22 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base1.JPG
09:22 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base2.JPG
09:22 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base3.JPG
09:33 PM rue_shop3: hah!
09:33 PM rue_shop3: well,
09:33 PM rue_shop3: maybe what I have here would be silly simple then
09:35 PM rue_shop3: I dont have a cad of it yet
09:35 PM rue_shop3: I have been over-forking
09:35 PM rue_shop3: / over threading
09:44 PM rue_shop3: ok I honed the cylinder for the one I cast
10:33 PM Tom_L: that was my assembly project for the class
10:33 PM Tom_L: got a bottle jack and measured it all and drew it up
10:39 PM rue_shop3: ;)
10:41 PM Tom_L: what seals the endcaps to the cylinder?
10:45 PM Tom_L: sleep...
10:49 PM rue_shop3: I'm using O rings
10:49 PM rue_shop3: the cylinder sits in a groove in the block
10:49 PM rue_shop3: the assembly is a sandwhich with 4 long bolts