#garfield Logs
Mar 20 2022
#garfield Calendar
12:00 AM rue_mohr: it can fit that arch
12:08 AM Tom_L: refresh that pic
12:08 AM rue_mohr: dont have to worry about the fillets for the nut hole
12:08 AM rue_mohr: good, drop it down to the top edge of the slot for A9 then
12:08 AM Tom_L: i need to make sure that didn't screw anything else up
12:08 AM Tom_L: won't leave much material there?
12:08 AM rue_mohr: its all good till sw has a caniption about a fillet ;)
12:08 AM rue_mohr: no, there isn't much
12:08 AM Tom_L: ok
12:08 AM Tom_L: i had it there then moved it up a bit :)
12:08 AM Tom_L: refresh
12:16 AM Tom_L: the stl is current to that pic
12:16 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/B2_proto_handle.JPG
12:18 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/B2_proto_handle2.JPG
12:19 AM rue_mohr: ma is staying the night sorry
12:19 AM Tom_L: ok
12:19 AM rue_mohr: the top looks right now
12:20 AM Tom_L: you can try that stl if you want
12:20 AM rue_mohr: the nut hole loosks wide
12:20 AM Tom_L: that's what i thought
12:20 AM rue_mohr: did you do 12mm total width or 12mm parallel + radii?
12:20 AM Tom_L: but that's what you gave me
12:20 AM Tom_L: center to center
12:20 AM Tom_L: 12mm
12:20 AM rue_mohr: OD to OD
12:20 AM rue_mohr: 12mm :)
12:20 AM Tom_L: 3.5mm radius
12:21 AM rue_mohr: yup
12:21 AM rue_mohr: no
12:21 AM rue_mohr: 3.5mm dia
12:21 AM Tom_L: so 12-7
12:21 AM rue_mohr: I gave you evilnumbers that were right
12:21 AM Tom_L: i think that's what i meant to say
12:21 AM rue_mohr: (<--12mm-->)
12:21 AM Tom_L: yeah 3.5mm D
12:21 AM Tom_L: so 12-7
12:21 AM rue_mohr: yes
12:22 AM Tom_L: that's what i had originally
12:22 AM Tom_L: by guess
12:22 AM rue_mohr: your pretty good at this!
12:22 AM rue_mohr: I think it took jester 3 days to make the A2
12:23 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/B2_proto_handle.JPG
12:23 AM * rue_mohr tries to rotate the jpg view
12:23 AM Tom_L: yeah lemme redo that
12:24 AM rue_mohr: some how the top slot/hole position LOOK out, but I'm not sure
12:24 AM Tom_L: refresh
12:24 AM rue_mohr: pretty damn good!
12:25 AM rue_mohr: throw me an stl and I'll see how it compares
12:25 AM Tom_L: the stl is current now
12:26 AM Tom_L: i'm a bit rusty at sw still
12:26 AM rue_mohr: it'll take me a while, shall I get back to you tommorow?
12:26 AM Tom_L: yeah i was headin to bed anyway
12:26 AM Tom_L: but i wanted to finish it
12:26 AM rue_mohr: ok, ok
12:26 AM rue_mohr: give me a few mins.
12:27 AM Tom_L: what ver sw do you have?
12:28 AM rue_mohr: oh that'll take me a bit
12:28 AM rue_mohr: hold on I'll compare these
12:38 AM rue_mohr: wow offset,
12:38 AM Tom_L: sry
12:39 AM rue_mohr: I'm trying to work out where the grid went
12:39 AM rue_mohr: oh, wait
12:39 AM rue_mohr: logic, its 3mm low
12:40 AM rue_mohr: ugh this viewer sucks
12:42 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare2.png
12:42 AM rue_mohr: its almost out by the thickness of A9
12:43 AM Tom_L: so the holes and everything need to go up 3mm?
12:43 AM rue_mohr: yes
12:43 AM rue_mohr: the hole needs to go back a bit too
12:43 AM rue_mohr: working on it
12:43 AM Tom_L: that'll screw up that front profile
12:43 AM Tom_L: i see that
12:43 AM rue_mohr: 4mm back
12:44 AM Tom_L: done
12:44 AM Tom_L: on the hole anyway
12:44 AM rue_mohr: I can compare other stls easy now
12:44 AM rue_mohr: its all set up
12:44 AM rue_mohr: it just imports and overlaps them
12:45 AM Tom_L: so i should have left that top where it was
12:45 AM Tom_L: and raised the rest of it
12:45 AM rue_mohr: oof what a day
12:45 AM rue_mohr: oh drat I also needed to...
12:45 AM rue_mohr: brb
12:51 AM rue_mohr: huh, missing plant
01:02 AM rue_shop3: oh crap, I was running the cnc and forgot
01:02 AM rue_shop3: ran dry, broke the bit off
01:02 AM Tom_L: woops
01:06 AM rue_shop3: lots a part and the bit
01:06 AM rue_shop3: lost
01:06 AM rue_shop3: ok tommorw I dont wnat to do any sprayer stuff, I want to do steam engine stuff
01:06 AM Tom_L: wanna compare a stl?
01:07 AM Tom_L: same file
01:08 AM Tom_L: i still may have to move some things
01:08 AM rue_shop3: ok, I just have to watch this cnc for a bit
01:09 AM Tom_L: i wanna get the profile right then worry about the hole locations
01:11 AM rue_shop3: ok
01:11 AM rue_shop3: ok remind me to get back here in like 5 minutes
01:12 AM Tom_L: one sec
01:12 AM rue_mohr: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/B2_proto_handle.STL
01:12 AM Tom_L: ok stl is current
01:18 AM Tom_L: had to fix a radius
01:18 AM rue_mohr: its still a bit out
01:18 AM rue_mohr: hold on
01:18 AM rue_mohr: 1 more mm higher
01:18 AM rue_mohr: technically 1.021, but the tolerance cant be that high
01:18 AM rue_mohr: the large hold is bang on, but its a bit large
01:18 AM rue_mohr: 6mm?
01:18 AM rue_mohr: oh thats odd
01:20 AM Tom_L: don't forget the cnc!
01:20 AM rue_shop3: ok, resquirted
01:23 AM rue_shop3: resquired again
01:25 AM Tom_L: new stl
01:26 AM Tom_L: may need to move the hole back still
01:29 AM Tom_L: uh.. what's that other hole in front of the 6mm pivot hole on yours?
01:30 AM rue_mohr: no we cant locate that properly
01:31 AM rue_mohr: yes, so
01:31 AM rue_mohr: is that A9 slot 3mm high?
01:32 AM Tom_L: yep
01:32 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare4.png
01:32 AM rue_mohr: then mine isn't
01:32 AM rue_mohr: ?
01:33 AM Tom_L: oh i forgot to raise the lid on it
01:33 AM Tom_L: just a sec
01:33 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare5.png
01:34 AM rue_shop3: squirt squirt
01:39 AM Tom_L: does it need to go up more?
01:40 AM Tom_L: stl updated
01:45 AM rue_shop3: no the flat is right
01:45 AM rue_shop3: the top arch might be a bit out
01:46 AM rue_mohr: but, my model is awefull
01:46 AM rue_mohr: the arc isn't right at all
01:46 AM Tom_L: in what way?
01:47 AM rue_mohr: the A2 arch is totally out, its not a 2mm radius at all
01:47 AM rue_mohr: the front I mixed it with isn't either
01:47 AM rue_mohr: ok, so
01:48 AM rue_mohr: lets adjust the thickness of the A9 slot
01:48 AM rue_mohr: just a second
01:48 AM Tom_L: what's the ID of the tube?
01:48 AM rue_mohr: aha, go for 3.5mm
01:49 AM rue_mohr: the tube is 22mm
01:49 AM rue_mohr: making the A9 slot thicker to 3.5mm will help move the top up
01:49 AM Tom_L: no
01:49 AM rue_mohr: oh, the top is out by the same 0.5mm
01:50 AM Tom_L: the arch is right
01:50 AM Tom_L: it may need to go up a bit
01:50 AM rue_mohr: the slot for A9 here is 3.5mm
01:50 AM rue_mohr: its probably to compensate for 3d printer oddness
01:51 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare6.png
01:51 AM Tom_L: one more try
01:52 AM rue_mohr: that difference in the top of the slot is 0.5mm
01:52 AM Tom_L: what about the holes?
01:52 AM Tom_L: i just fixed the slot
01:52 AM rue_mohr: big hole is good
01:52 AM rue_mohr: small hole needs to move forward...
01:52 AM Tom_L: how much
01:52 AM Tom_L: the one that holds a9?
01:53 AM rue_mohr: found it, 3.65mm
01:53 AM Tom_L: move it fwd 3.65mm?
01:54 AM rue_mohr: yes
01:54 AM Tom_L: it will cut into the slot if i do
01:54 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare7.png
01:54 AM rue_mohr: thats ok
01:54 AM rue_mohr: it should just half graze thru it
01:54 AM Tom_L: no it goes all the way thru
01:54 AM Tom_L: by quite a bit
01:55 AM rue_mohr: ...
01:55 AM rue_mohr: your slot goes back by about 1mm more than mine
01:55 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/hole.JPG
01:56 AM rue_mohr: and mine half grazes the hole
01:56 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare8.png
01:56 AM rue_mohr: so yea
01:57 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/hole.JPG
01:57 AM Tom_L: happy now?
01:57 AM rue_mohr: that should be ok
01:57 AM Tom_L: ok what else was there?
01:58 AM rue_mohr: list of one thing at a time?
01:58 AM rue_mohr: :)
01:58 AM Tom_L: i'll just post the stl
01:58 AM rue_mohr: the nose need to come back...
01:58 AM Tom_L: ok check it now
01:59 AM Tom_L: i moved the nose too :)
01:59 AM Tom_L: some
01:59 AM rue_mohr: ok 6mm?
01:59 AM Tom_L: the hole?
01:59 AM rue_mohr: let me re-update
01:59 AM Tom_L: yeah
02:00 AM rue_mohr: hole is perfect
02:00 AM Tom_L: both?
02:00 AM rue_mohr: yes
02:00 AM Tom_L: ok what else?
02:00 AM rue_mohr: the hight is right now too
02:00 AM Tom_L: i know :)
02:01 AM rue_mohr: the nose needs to come back 6mm (shorter
02:01 AM rue_mohr: will it do that without dragging everything with it?
02:01 AM Tom_L: i'll see what i can do
02:01 AM Tom_L: it's all in the knowing how
02:01 AM rue_mohr: I wonder if that shorter nose is why the 3" model never collided with the cans the way A2 does
02:02 AM rue_mohr: I think somethind went really wrong with our origional reconstruction
02:02 AM rue_mohr: we suffered a lot of "out by 1mm and NOTHING WORKS" issues
02:04 AM rue_mohr: your model isn't all hacky like mine :/
02:04 AM Tom_L: new stl
02:04 AM rue_mohr: yup
02:04 AM Tom_L: i fixed the model
02:04 AM Tom_L: so you can actually use it
02:05 AM Tom_L: makes changes quicker ehh?
02:05 AM rue_mohr: ok so two tings left
02:05 AM rue_mohr: that I can see
02:05 AM rue_mohr: the top of the nut slot should be 16mm down from the top of the sprayer
02:05 AM rue_mohr: you look shallow?
02:07 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare9.png this difference is 2mm (both)
02:07 AM Tom_L: still needs to go up some?
02:08 AM rue_mohr: no, forward with the toung and the back of the slot
02:09 AM Tom_L: oh crap
02:10 AM rue_mohr: we broke it?
02:10 AM Tom_L: need to go fwd 2mm?
02:10 AM rue_mohr: jester kept having an issue where it said "NO!! ADJUSTING THAT BREAKS EVERYTHING!"
02:11 AM rue_mohr: YES
02:11 AM rue_mohr: yes
02:11 AM Tom_L: shit that puts the hole out too
02:11 AM Tom_L: hang on
02:13 AM Tom_L: ok see what you think of that one
02:13 AM Tom_L: i should make these dimensions formula driven but i'm not going to the trouble
02:14 AM rue_mohr: oh yea
02:14 AM Tom_L: better?
02:15 AM Tom_L: nut slot is lower now too
02:15 AM rue_mohr: comparing
02:16 AM rue_mohr: down to about 0.05mm and its looking good
02:18 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare10.png
02:18 AM rue_mohr: all the hatching is a good thing, conicodint surfaces
02:18 AM Tom_L: i need to move that inside slot back a tiny bit
02:19 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/compare11.png
02:19 AM Tom_L: ok final stl posted
02:19 AM rue_mohr: I think its ok
02:19 AM Tom_L: it was cutting off the front on the bottom so i backed up the front of the slot a tiny bit
02:20 AM rue_mohr: k
02:20 AM Tom_L: print one and try it
02:20 AM rue_mohr: see that missing small hole at the front,
02:20 AM rue_mohr: we cant locate that on the pipe
02:20 AM Tom_L: yeah
02:20 AM rue_mohr: so the hole lands where it lands
02:20 AM rue_mohr: we removed it from the A7
02:20 AM Tom_L: oh you drill that one?
02:20 AM rue_mohr: the pipe and the head togethor
02:20 AM Tom_L: yeah
02:20 AM rue_mohr: right thru
02:21 AM rue_mohr: then bolt it
02:21 AM rue_mohr: your model is different in all the better ways
02:21 AM Tom_L: we'll see
02:21 AM Tom_L: what ver sw do you have?
02:21 AM rue_mohr: ok let me check
02:22 AM rue_mohr: oh damn the cnc
02:22 AM Tom_L: you may need to update it
02:22 AM Tom_L: or just live with stl files...
02:22 AM rue_shop3: its ok
02:22 AM rue_shop3: oh hold on
02:23 AM rue_shop3: solidworks 2012
02:24 AM Tom_L: you want 2015?
02:24 AM Tom_L: the files aren't backward compatible
02:25 AM rue_shop3: hmm, sounds like lots of work
02:25 AM rue_shop3: tho the laptop is dieing
02:25 AM Tom_L: 64bit
02:25 AM rue_mohr: I'll print one tonight and see
02:25 AM rue_mohr: oh, this isn't 64 windows
02:25 AM Tom_L: ok. i'm out
02:25 AM rue_mohr: gnight, thanks for the adventure!
02:25 AM Tom_L: heh
02:26 AM Tom_L: something to do
02:27 AM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230178.jpg
02:27 AM rue_mohr: I'm sure this will heal right up if I dont agrivate it for a week, right?
02:28 AM Tom_L: not sure what i'm looking at
02:28 AM rue_mohr: the sw laptop
02:28 AM Tom_L: mmm
02:28 AM rue_mohr: those vert lines, yea
02:28 AM Tom_L: is it 32 or 64bit?
02:28 AM Tom_L: oh
02:28 AM rue_mohr: 32 I think
02:28 AM Tom_L: this is 64bit
02:29 AM rue_mohr: oh hah
02:29 AM rue_mohr: how about 1 more tweak for printing
02:29 AM rue_mohr: heh
02:29 AM Tom_L: i have 2 ssd
02:29 AM Tom_L: what's that?
02:29 AM rue_mohr: the large hole
02:29 AM rue_mohr: on the upper side
02:29 AM rue_mohr: needs a 0.2mm "bottom cover"
02:29 AM Tom_L: hang on.. rebooting
02:29 AM rue_mohr: to give the printer a solid surface over the bridge
02:29 AM rue_mohr: I think I could mod it in, but...
02:30 AM rue_mohr: I use a 0.2mm disc positioned flush with the bottom of the hole
02:30 AM Tom_L: you want what now?
02:30 AM rue_mohr: bottom of the top hole
02:31 AM rue_mohr: can you see how the top hole in my model was blind?
02:31 AM Tom_L: no
02:31 AM Tom_L: i closed them all
02:31 AM rue_mohr: there is a 0.2mm thick bottom to the hole
02:31 AM Tom_L: on those big holes?
02:31 AM rue_mohr: just the upper big hole
02:31 AM Tom_L: in the grip itself?
02:32 AM Tom_L: which side do you want it on?
02:32 AM rue_mohr: the part is printed flat, the upper hole, right side if you were holding it pointed away from you
02:33 AM Tom_L: 2mm thick?
02:33 AM Tom_L: no .2
02:33 AM rue_mohr: 0.2
02:34 AM rue_mohr: it makes the printer just do 1 layer
02:34 AM rue_mohr: too thin and it just skips it
02:34 AM Tom_L: see if that's what you want
02:35 AM rue_mohr: heh, sorry the 6mm hole :)
02:36 AM rue_mohr: bottom side of the upper 6mm hole if that makes sense
02:37 AM rue_mohr: after it prints the slot, it needs 1 solid layer before it can shape the hole
02:37 AM Tom_L: try again
02:37 AM rue_mohr: correct hole, move down to the inside of it
02:38 AM Tom_L: inside it?
02:38 AM rue_mohr: yup at the other end of the same tunnel
02:38 AM Tom_L: on the inside of the slot?
02:38 AM rue_mohr: againt the slot
02:38 AM rue_mohr: yes
02:38 AM rue_mohr: see then when it prints, there is a solid layer before it tries to shape the hole
02:39 AM rue_mohr: otherwise it tries to print the edge of the hole floating in space, then works on the infill around it :)
02:39 AM Tom_L: the other side is ok?
02:39 AM rue_mohr: yes
02:39 AM rue_mohr: because its up from the bed
02:39 AM rue_mohr: it cant print the bridge properly with a hole in it
02:41 AM Tom_L: ok
02:41 AM rue_mohr: thats it!
02:42 AM Tom_L: odd
02:42 AM rue_mohr: gnight, I'll take pics in the morning
02:42 AM Tom_L: i didn't save it that way so if we mod it i'll have to add that again
02:43 AM rue_mohr: ok, gnight! awesome work!
02:43 AM Tom_L: :)
04:08 AM rue_shop3: oh damn, I was pushing 12V into a tiny26
04:09 AM rue_shop3: chip is obviously dead, and I melted the breadboard
04:54 AM WormFood: Are you sure? I've seen AVRs connected backwards for 15 minutes, with no damage.
04:54 AM rue_shop3: 124mm
04:54 AM rue_shop3: avrs?
04:54 AM rue_shop3: after it melted the breadboard I dind't bother actually checking
04:55 AM WormFood: You should check.
04:55 AM WormFood: You might be surprised.
04:55 AM WormFood: But, then again, maybe not, but it only (or should) take but a few seconds to test the chip.
04:56 AM rue_shop3: 50mm stroke
04:56 AM rue_shop3: I rolled the pins :/
05:08 AM rue_mohr: oh yea, ok, 90 degrees cause its the equalization of the evils
05:08 AM rue_mohr: I get to build a dual cylinder V steam engine
05:34 AM Tom_L: morning
06:15 AM WormFood: wow! I just discovered that they make 16-bit wide 32Mbit EPROMs...the fuckers are 42 pins. Where the hell do you get a 42 pin socket?
06:16 AM WormFood: And a rather unusual pinout to boot
06:19 AM WormFood: They interleave the data bits...D0 D8 D1 D9 etc...I'm sure there is a reason for that, but I don't know why
06:23 AM WormFood: Ok, I see why now. Backwards compatibility with EPROMS that support 8-bit and 16-bit data modes.
06:24 AM rue_shop3: I had to forcibly twist the lathe bed to get it to cut parallel
06:24 AM rue_shop3: there are the eeproms that are 8/16 bit
06:24 AM WormFood: almost sounds like you're describing a sex act
06:24 AM rue_shop3: omg its 4am
06:24 AM WormFood: 7am here
06:24 AM rue_shop3: I havn't slept yet
06:25 AM rue_shop3: I been twisting my lathe bed
06:25 AM WormFood: I did. During the day
06:25 AM rue_shop3: it was cutting a cone
06:25 AM rue_shop3: a bad one, about 0.6mm over 10cm
06:25 AM rue_shop3: over the 10cm I have it pretty close now, more than I can measure
06:25 AM rue_shop3: I put adjustable feet on the table
06:26 AM rue_shop3: but it couldn't adjust it enough
06:26 AM WormFood: 16Mbit and above EPROMs seem to all do 8/16 bit data, except for the biggest, which seems to only be 16-bit (unless I missed that in the datasheet)
06:26 AM rue_shop3: so I had to use shims to twist the lathe against the table
06:26 AM WormFood: and they're all at least 42 pins
06:26 AM rue_shop3: I didn't know the table could twist the lathe
06:27 AM WormFood: It's good to learn new things.
06:27 AM rue_shop3: I have some 42 pin things
06:27 AM rue_shop3: not common tho
06:27 AM rue_shop3: I was trying to make a precision part and came across all sorts of "OH!"s
06:27 AM WormFood: yeah. of course. Who uses 42 pin packages?
06:28 AM WormFood: and, of course, old CPUs, like the 68000 are 64 pin, but that is at least a normal standard, in common use (well, maybe not anymore, but at least at one time it was in common use)
06:41 AM rue_mohr: gnight
06:52 AM WormFood: g'night
12:32 PM aandrew: rue_shop3> I had to forcibly twist the lathe bed to get it to cut parallel
12:32 PM aandrew: that sounds like it might be out of true a little bit...
01:27 PM * Tom_L thinks rue_mohr got his daze n nites mixed up
01:40 PM rue_mohr: 8-| whoa
01:41 PM rue_mohr: I just stayed up till like 4:30am
01:54 PM Tom_L: so i see
01:54 PM Tom_L: 2 was plenty for me
01:58 PM rue_mohr: interesting, so the print, it looks like the bottom for that hole was too thin for it to not ignore
01:58 PM rue_mohr: and the nut slot length isn't right
01:58 PM rue_mohr: I'll take pics
01:58 PM rue_mohr: its overcast here, whats it like there?
01:59 PM Tom_L: sunny
02:00 PM rue_mohr: nice.
02:00 PM Tom_L: so that hole plug didn't work?
02:01 PM rue_mohr: this looks great, check it out, just a sec
02:01 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230184.jpg
02:01 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230185.jpg
02:01 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230186.jpg
02:01 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230187.jpg
02:01 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230188.jpg
02:01 PM rue_mohr: it didn't pick up properly on that bottom for the 6mm hole, not sure why
02:02 PM Tom_L: looks good but will it work?
02:02 PM rue_mohr: I think you had the nut hole right in the first place tho
02:02 PM rue_mohr: I'll try and assemble it
02:02 PM Tom_L: too low now?
02:02 PM rue_mohr: the height is right
02:02 PM rue_mohr: the width is out, see images
02:02 PM Tom_L: not wide enough?
02:03 PM rue_mohr: oh, let me take 1 more here
02:03 PM Tom_L: i can make a quick fix if needed
02:04 PM rue_mohr: how about I give it a test assemble and see if everything else is workin ok
02:04 PM Tom_L: np
02:04 PM Tom_L: it's purple.
02:04 PM Tom_L: do you add those corner pads yourself or does the software do that?
02:04 PM rue_mohr: the roll on the other printer is purple :)
02:05 PM aandrew: bleh
02:05 PM aandrew: my stupid server died
02:05 PM rue_mohr: I do that in the cam software to hold down the corners
02:05 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230190.jpg
02:05 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230192.jpg
02:05 PM rue_mohr: they are thin and just cut off later
02:05 PM aandrew: I was trying to share this with you and polprog: https://qrp-gaijin.blogspot.com/2017/07/rtl-sdr-upconversion-with-diode-ring_30.html
02:05 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, what server?
02:05 PM aandrew: not specifically that article, but that blog seems pretty nice
02:05 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: my server, gromit.mixdown.ca
02:05 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, so back to 12mm wide?
02:06 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, see 184 there
02:06 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230184.jpg
02:06 PM Tom_L: it's 5mm between centers right now with a 3.5mm slot
02:07 PM rue_mohr: the page has a diagram I sketched when we were talking about it
02:07 PM aandrew: this was all from this HAD article: https://hackaday.com/2022/03/17/owning-a-shortwave-radio-is-once-again-a-subversive-activity/
02:08 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, throws an outdated ticket error
02:08 PM rue_mohr: ssl cert
02:08 PM Tom_L: yeah it's 8.5 right now
02:08 PM Tom_L: so i'll make it 12
02:08 PM rue_mohr: is the date right on the server?
02:08 PM aandrew: hm? that was linked right from my browser. interesting
02:08 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: that's not my server
02:08 PM rue_mohr: https://gromit.mixdown.ca/redmine
02:08 PM aandrew: oh
02:08 PM aandrew: odd
02:09 PM Tom_L: ok slot fixed
02:09 PM Tom_L: anything else?
02:09 PM rue_mohr: lets try bumping the hole bottom to 0.3mm thick?
02:09 PM aandrew: https://ibb.co/WKkPkr2
02:09 PM Tom_L: oh on the 6mm hole plug?
02:09 PM rue_mohr: 0.2 should have been fine, I dont ge that
02:09 PM rue_mohr: yea
02:10 PM aandrew: my cert looks valid, but https://gromit.mixdown.ca/ does nothing
02:10 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, what can I say, its threw a cert error, and I added an exeption
02:10 PM Tom_L: ok that's .3mm now
02:11 PM rue_mohr: wow 20 messages on twitter
02:12 PM Tom_L: bolt hole size ok?
02:12 PM rue_mohr: oh, no, good catch, the printer makes it a bit smaller
02:12 PM rue_mohr: just a sec
02:12 PM rue_mohr: d=4.75
02:13 PM rue_mohr: I used a dia of 4.75mm to get it to clear a #8 properly
02:13 PM Tom_L: 4.49 now, i'll change it to 4.75
02:14 PM rue_mohr: ok
02:14 PM Tom_L: all done
02:14 PM Tom_L: does that hole go far enough past the nut?
02:14 PM rue_mohr: *squint*
02:15 PM rue_mohr: oh, hmm, throw another 6mm depth on it!
02:15 PM Tom_L: it's not much, maybe a thread or two
02:15 PM Tom_L: ok
02:15 PM Tom_L: done
02:16 PM rue_mohr: I'm using a 1" screw, so it passes thru a bit
02:16 PM Tom_L: i can take it out the bottom of the handle if necessary
02:17 PM Tom_L: anything else?
02:17 PM rue_mohr: I'd like to try assembling it
02:17 PM Tom_L: np
02:17 PM rue_mohr: you just caught 4 things there I'd not noticed
02:18 PM Tom_L: check those belt mount holes too. i didn't do anything with them
02:18 PM rue_mohr: we dont do anything with them either :)
02:19 PM rue_mohr: they said they wanted them, but are never interested
02:19 PM Tom_L: heh
02:19 PM Tom_L: leather wrist strap thru the bottom hole
02:20 PM rue_mohr: yea they said they need all those holes
02:20 PM Tom_L: they probably hang it from that 6mm bottom hole
02:23 PM aandrew: what're you building? looks kind of like an elastic band gun
02:24 PM rue_mohr: its a handle for paint sprayers, industrial grade
02:25 PM rue_mohr: ok, I'm gonna grab a shower and breakfast
02:26 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: ah, gonna use it as a model for casting?
02:27 PM Tom_L: no
02:33 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, there are two printed parts in the design
03:06 PM rue_mohr: do you guys do a garden?
03:06 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, I think I recall you saying you dont anymore
03:07 PM Tom_L: no
03:08 PM Tom_L: none of the helpers helped
03:08 PM Tom_L: i enjoyed it when i had it though
03:08 PM rue_mohr: oh
03:08 PM Tom_L: had to cover quite a bit of it to keep birds & rabbits out
03:09 PM rue_mohr: did you go for food or decorative?
03:09 PM rue_mohr: food sounds like
03:10 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/house/house.jpg
03:10 PM rue_mohr: nice
03:11 PM Tom_L: you can see kids stuff.. they're in their 20's now :)
03:11 PM rue_mohr: I'm kinda confused as why that hole bottom didn't work
03:11 PM Tom_L: the plug?
03:11 PM Tom_L: no idea
03:11 PM rue_mohr: is that the side that has the new roof cover and patio?
03:11 PM rue_mohr: yea the plug
03:11 PM rue_mohr: it ignores layers thinner than a certain amount
03:12 PM rue_mohr: less than half a layer about
03:12 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/patio/patio21.jpg
03:12 PM rue_mohr: oh thats the side to the left of your garden pic
03:12 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/patio/patio20.jpg
03:12 PM Tom_L: front to back
03:12 PM Tom_L: 1st was back to front
03:13 PM Tom_L: garden behind the garage
03:13 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/house/yard1.jpg
03:13 PM Tom_L: after the kids took over the garden
03:13 PM rue_mohr: those posts are.. 3"?
03:14 PM Tom_L: iirc 3 or 4
03:14 PM Tom_L: thick wall
03:14 PM rue_mohr: hmmm, I need a new shelter
03:14 PM Tom_L: that back half of the garage never got covered
03:14 PM Tom_L: i put the first half in instead of a shed for yard stuff
03:15 PM Tom_L: the compressor & lathe etc are in there
03:23 PM Tom_L: well you should have plenty of wood up there
03:24 PM Tom_L: you'd better do it before you get too old to do it
03:24 PM Tom_L: :)
03:27 PM rue_mohr: have to build a house too
03:27 PM rue_mohr: :/
03:30 PM Tom_L: me and my bud did the garage
03:30 PM Tom_L: i did the patio myself
03:30 PM Tom_L: as well as all the basement
03:30 PM Tom_L: i had it dug out
03:30 PM rue_mohr: I pondered a few times, having the new house put under the existing one
03:31 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/house/1.jpg
03:31 PM rue_mohr: yep
03:31 PM Tom_L: i did all the rest
03:32 PM Tom_L: sewer, water, electrical, hvac etc
03:32 PM rue_mohr: if only this were a real building I could fix it
03:32 PM Tom_L: yeah sometimes it's easier just to start over
03:32 PM Tom_L: i started over on the garage
03:32 PM rue_mohr: way cheaper in this case
03:33 PM Tom_L: old rickety single car before
03:33 PM Tom_L: dirt drive
03:33 PM rue_mohr: how far are you from the tornado zones?
03:33 PM rue_mohr: hurricane?
03:34 PM rue_mohr: hmm I dont remember
03:34 PM Tom_L: tornado
03:34 PM Tom_L: but haven't seen one in quite a while
03:34 PM rue_mohr: this is a bad year for everyting, keep your hat on
03:35 PM Tom_L: call em supersticious but we're close to a fork in the river
03:35 PM rue_mohr: :)
03:35 PM Tom_L: bad stuff passes by
03:35 PM Tom_L: the house was built in the 20's and is still here
03:35 PM rue_mohr: that says lots
03:35 PM Tom_L: hard to drive nails in the original studs too
03:35 PM rue_mohr: is there much left of the origional build?
03:36 PM rue_mohr: haha fir
03:36 PM Tom_L: all of it
03:36 PM rue_mohr: turns to concrete
03:36 PM Tom_L: i closed off the back where they dug the basement
03:36 PM rue_mohr: new insulation I hope
03:36 PM Tom_L: added the basement and new garage etc
03:36 PM Tom_L: blown in
03:36 PM Tom_L: fair
03:36 PM Tom_L: heat bills are low
03:36 PM rue_mohr: so the news paper could still be int here?
03:37 PM Tom_L: likely so
03:37 PM rue_mohr: :)
03:37 PM Tom_L: i took out all the lath and put in new sheet rock
03:37 PM rue_mohr: ah well, there ya go
03:38 PM rue_mohr: no aluminum wiring eh?
03:43 PM Tom_L: nope
03:44 PM Tom_L: some of that stuff with the ceramic tubes
03:44 PM Tom_L: forgot what it was called
03:44 PM Tom_L: just on the celing lights
03:44 PM Tom_L: alum was a 70's thing
03:46 PM rue_mohr: knob and tube
03:46 PM rue_mohr: its ok if someone who didn't know what they were doing wasn't at it
03:46 PM rue_mohr: connections are supposed to be soldered
03:46 PM Tom_L: and i think it still had those screw in fuses in the back
03:46 PM rue_mohr: often times people overloaded them tho
03:46 PM Tom_L: but don't remember if they were still wired up
03:47 PM Tom_L: i did solder some of them
03:47 PM Tom_L: they weren't previously
03:47 PM rue_mohr: hmm
03:47 PM rue_mohr: usualyl didn't come with grounds :)
03:47 PM Tom_L: no
03:48 PM rue_mohr: today they require that you put them on an arc fault breaker if their still being used
03:48 PM Tom_L: when i did the basement i had a new pannel put in
03:48 PM Tom_L: gfci?
03:48 PM rue_mohr: no afci
03:48 PM Tom_L: huh
03:49 PM rue_mohr: it listens for arc noise like the brushes on a vacuum cleaner and trips if it sees it
03:49 PM rue_mohr: you can imagine it can cause some false trips
03:50 PM rue_mohr: due to those stupid push-in wire connectors, today all bedroom circuits require arc fault protection
03:51 PM Tom_L: wasn't aware of that
03:51 PM Tom_L: i think all the ones i did were screwed in
03:53 PM rue_mohr: hopefully
03:54 PM rue_mohr: there are push in splicers that were toted for saving electrical installers tonnes of time, they are aweful and a fire hazard, but because the industry is driving the safety auths they stayed in, and now we have to have arc fault to get around the hazards they created
03:54 PM rue_mohr: }:[
03:55 PM Tom_L: sounds similar to the whole aluminum wiring era
03:55 PM rue_mohr: https://www.wago.com/medias/1024-02000024000105af000100b6-DE.jpg
03:55 PM rue_mohr: ugh
03:56 PM Tom_L: errors
03:56 PM rue_mohr: http://www.naturallighting.com/images/cat_image/quick_connectors.jpg
03:57 PM Tom_L: didn't know about those
03:57 PM Tom_L: just the devices that have them
03:58 PM Tom_L: so they're getting away from twist connectors?
04:03 PM rue_mohr: the cheap guys still use push ins, but its been generalyl agreed that twist caps are better
04:05 PM aandrew: I hate AFCI they are expensive and die quite often
04:06 PM rue_mohr: yea they suck, havn't seem them die
04:10 PM rue_mohr: after adjusting the lathe, I want to stick in a rod between centers and see how much closer it is
04:10 PM rue_mohr: and see if the tailstock hits the middle of the material now
04:10 PM Tom_L: still working on those bushings?
04:10 PM rue_mohr: no
04:11 PM rue_mohr: I wasn't really in the ballpark
04:11 PM rue_mohr: well, one of my diameters was ok
04:11 PM rue_mohr: I still need to tighten up the headstock bearings too
04:11 PM rue_mohr: maybe I can do that today
04:11 PM rue_mohr: I'd like an electronics project
04:14 PM rue_mohr: and clean up the deck a bit
04:15 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/door_test/Door_indicator.png
04:15 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/door_test/indicator1.jpg
04:15 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/door_test/indicator3.jpg
04:16 PM Tom_L: not using it now
04:16 PM rue_mohr: :(
04:16 PM Tom_L: could open and close the garage door from the basement and know if it closed
04:19 PM Tom_L: huh
04:19 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/flash_read_write.zip
04:19 PM Tom_L: avr i think
04:21 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/lcd_txt.jpg
04:21 PM Tom_L: haha
04:21 PM Tom_L: that was a flyback project
04:24 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/sign.jpg
04:30 PM Tom_L: should i post those fixes?
04:35 PM rue_mohr: if you like, I'll try it before I commit to where were at :)
04:38 PM rue_mohr: flyback is still kinda at it eh?
04:43 PM rue_shop4: trying out the handle
04:43 PM rue_shop4: not a chance that nuts gonna fit
04:43 PM rue_shop4: ah, but it should be a blind slot too
04:43 PM rue_shop4: I missed that
04:45 PM rue_shop4: heh, a #6 hex nut fits in if persuaded
04:49 PM Tom_L: blind slot?
04:49 PM rue_shop4: for the nut, I'll find details later
04:50 PM rue_shop4: apparently we have no more assembled heads
04:50 PM Tom_L: so just expose one side
04:50 PM rue_shop4: hah, oh, there is something I completely missed
04:50 PM rue_shop4: the flat that A9 sits on,
04:50 PM rue_shop4: needs a radius casue the aluminum for A9 is bend around it
04:51 PM Tom_L: big or small radius?
04:51 PM rue_shop4: I'll hit with file, see if I find anyting else
04:51 PM Tom_L: 2.xx or 1.xx?
04:51 PM rue_shop4: 1 sec, I'l measure
04:51 PM rue_shop4: r=2mm will work
04:52 PM Tom_L: same as the edges?
04:53 PM Tom_L: edge is 2.5mm
04:53 PM Tom_L: small holes are 1mm
04:56 PM rue_shop4: 2.5mm would beok
04:56 PM rue_shop4: 2mm is quite safe
04:56 PM Tom_L: i'll separate them and do 2mm
04:57 PM Tom_L: some reason it doesn't like that
05:00 PM rue_mohr: it doesn't like 2.5 or 2?
05:00 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230193.jpg
05:00 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230194.jpg
05:00 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230195.jpg
05:00 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230196.jpg
05:01 PM rue_mohr: I didn't go all the way, but it looks good
05:01 PM Tom_L: trigger goes back far enough?
05:01 PM rue_mohr: oh the nut pocket depth
05:02 PM Tom_L: it will start on the left side
05:03 PM rue_shop4: the hole should face up on the print
05:03 PM rue_shop4: I'll get you a depth tho
05:03 PM Tom_L: do what?
05:04 PM rue_shop4: so the pocket for the nut
05:04 PM Tom_L: opposite side of the 6mm plug
05:04 PM rue_shop4: should be 12mm deep from the right hand side if your holding it away from ya
05:04 PM Tom_L: ok that's where the sketch is
05:05 PM Tom_L: i'll just change the depth
05:05 PM rue_shop4: open the the right hand side, for the nut
05:06 PM Tom_L: wtf
05:07 PM Tom_L: ok i'll have to move that to a new sketch
05:08 PM rue_shop4: ?
05:08 PM rue_shop4: oh its part of the profile
05:08 PM Tom_L: i can split it
05:08 PM Tom_L: i didn't know if sw would do that
05:09 PM rue_shop4: how about putting a 3mm filler under it?
05:09 PM Tom_L: do what now?
05:09 PM rue_shop4: well, like the bridge for the 6mm hole
05:09 PM rue_shop4: from the bottom, add something to fill the bottom 3mm of the nut hole
05:09 PM Tom_L: one sec
05:15 PM Tom_L: ok now what about a bridge?
05:15 PM Tom_L: i don't think sw will do that because if it's not an extruded cut it's an extrusion
05:16 PM Tom_L: oh wait
05:16 PM Tom_L: i'll show you what i have so far
05:16 PM rue_shop4: k...
05:17 PM Tom_L: you want a bridge on the slot like we did on the back of the 6mm hole?
05:17 PM Tom_L: like .3mm
05:17 PM rue_shop4: the bottom needs to be filled ot make it a blind slot, the pocket should be 12mm deep
05:18 PM Tom_L: the pocket is 12mm deep now and doesn't go all the way thru the part
05:18 PM rue_shop4: the nut falls thru, so if its not blind its a pain to keep in while assembling
05:18 PM Tom_L: that leaves 3mm
05:18 PM rue_shop4: yup, perfect
05:18 PM Tom_L: was that it?
05:18 PM Tom_L: i'll add in that 6mm hole block again too
05:18 PM rue_shop4: you got the radii on the edges of the flat for A9
05:18 PM Tom_L: .3mm thick
05:18 PM Tom_L: no
05:18 PM Tom_L: still fussing with it
05:18 PM rue_shop4: yea, lets use .3
05:19 PM rue_shop4: the slicer didn't do it with .2mm
05:19 PM rue_shop4: I really dont know why
05:20 PM Tom_L: wtf
05:21 PM rue_shop4: ?
05:21 PM rue_shop4: sw arguing?
05:22 PM Tom_L: no
05:22 PM Tom_L: i forgot i left that plug in and drew another one
05:22 PM Tom_L: on the 6mm hole
05:25 PM Tom_L: it won't let me do more than a .25mm fillet on the A9 surface
05:25 PM Tom_L: not sure why
05:25 PM Tom_L: maybe the fillets get in the way of the hole fillets?
05:26 PM rue_mohr: oh
05:26 PM rue_mohr: hmm
05:27 PM Tom_L: hang on
05:29 PM Tom_L: ok i'm getting there
05:30 PM Tom_L: pics..
05:31 PM rue_shop4: .. pics?
05:32 PM rue_shop4: ....
05:32 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/B2_proto_handle.JPG
05:32 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/B2_proto/B2_proto_handle2.JPG
05:32 PM Tom_L: block on 6mm hole
05:32 PM Tom_L: slot 12mm
05:33 PM Tom_L: 2mm radius on A9 surface
05:33 PM Tom_L: unless that's too much
05:33 PM rue_shop4: ! nut pocket to other side!
05:33 PM Tom_L: ok i'll have to do an offset extrude
05:34 PM Tom_L: trying to avoid adding another sketch
05:34 PM rue_shop4: k
05:34 PM rue_shop4: I think what you use as a sketch is a dxf layer for me in the way I do the design stuff
05:34 PM rue_shop4: but I cant radius corners like that
05:35 PM Tom_L: is that ok?
05:35 PM rue_shop4: update me! :)
05:35 PM Tom_L: i'm trying to figure out how sw does an offset pocket
05:35 PM rue_shop4: ok
05:35 PM Tom_L: so i don't have to move the sketch for the slot
05:36 PM rue_shop4: I'm tightening the head bearings on the lathe
05:36 PM Tom_L: haha
05:36 PM Tom_L: magic!
05:36 PM Tom_L: and you thought you could fool me!
05:39 PM Tom_L: ok refresh both thos pics
05:39 PM Tom_L: crap
05:39 PM Tom_L: i lost a fillet on a hole
05:41 PM Tom_L: ok i think that should do it
05:42 PM Tom_L: on your table pads, do you offset them with a little "dowel" or flat against the part?
05:43 PM rue_shop4: heh, you lost the tiny hole come to notice it!
05:43 PM Tom_L: oh i forgot to select that when i split those extrudes
05:43 PM rue_shop4: the table pads are placed at the same time as the handle and they get automatically mushed togethor in the print
05:44 PM rue_shop4: do you think It'll come back without an argument?
05:44 PM rue_shop4: otherwise, yea, looks good enough to try again I think
05:45 PM Tom_L: refresh those pics
05:45 PM Tom_L: want me to add those pads?
05:50 PM rue_shop4: no worries on the pads
05:50 PM rue_shop4: we move them around sometimes
05:50 PM Tom_L: ok
05:50 PM rue_shop4: generally on the corners, which is where the prints lift
05:50 PM rue_shop4: one day I'll have a heated bed and it wont matter
05:51 PM Tom_L: should be good to go i think
05:51 PM rue_shop4: I think so too
05:51 PM Tom_L: unless you see something
05:51 PM rue_shop4: we got the corners, and the bottom for the nut hole, and the bridge thing and the #8 screw depth
05:51 PM rue_shop4: and made the hole larger for the #8 screw
05:52 PM rue_shop4: shall I mail you one and you can put it on the trophy shelf?
05:52 PM Tom_L: B2_handle.stl
05:53 PM Tom_L: i've got an A2
05:53 PM Tom_L: that's ok
05:54 PM Tom_L: the #8 screw hole is 4.75mm now
05:54 PM Tom_L: and 6mm deeper than it was
05:56 PM rue_shop4: its odd, the stl files from your program are a lot smaller
05:56 PM rue_shop4: I'll print it again and test
05:56 PM Tom_L: ok
05:57 PM Tom_L: one thing, if that wall on the slot is too deep to hold the nut when you turn the screw i can make it a little thicker so it holds the nut from turning
05:57 PM Tom_L: it's 3mm right now
05:57 PM Tom_L: 15 - 12
05:59 PM Tom_L: also i should give you the sw file even though you can't open it
06:00 PM rue_shop4: the 12mm leaves just a hair more room than is needed for the square nut
06:00 PM Tom_L: ok
06:01 PM Tom_L: was there another handle that needed fixed?
06:01 PM rue_shop4: huh ok, managed to reverse the taper on the lathe
06:01 PM rue_shop4: I was able to modify the other one
06:02 PM rue_shop4: the model I had for B2 couldn't be modified
06:02 PM Tom_L: sure it could. i did :)
06:02 PM rue_shop4: there is a tiny error in it that my software cant handle
06:02 PM Tom_L: hmm
06:02 PM rue_shop4: well, you rebuilt it, thats different
06:02 PM rue_shop4: you fixed like 8 things where I was only going to do 1
06:03 PM Tom_L: may as well get it right
06:05 PM rue_shop4: did you notice how the proper top radius on yours doesn't match the orig at all?
06:05 PM rue_shop4: the orig is horridly wrong
06:06 PM Tom_L: for the tube?
06:06 PM Tom_L: i checked that and made it 22mm? i think it was
06:06 PM Tom_L: i forget
06:10 PM rue_shop4: the old one wasn't
06:10 PM Tom_L: oh
06:10 PM Tom_L: well i did check that
06:11 PM rue_shop4: it caused a problem cause if we bolted down the tube too hard it'd distort
06:11 PM rue_shop4: was it B2...
06:11 PM rue_shop4: hmm
06:11 PM Tom_L: fairly easy fix in sw
06:12 PM Tom_L: it was a 3point arc so you define the radius by moving the center point
06:18 PM Tom_L: how long does it take to print a handle?
06:18 PM rue_mohr: the machine I printed that on it REALLY slow, so it took a few hours
06:20 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1230200.jpg
06:21 PM rue_mohr: not good but so much better
06:27 PM Tom_L: you could probably cut a morse taper with mine
06:31 PM rue_mohr: heh, tom...
06:31 PM rue_mohr: ...
06:31 PM rue_mohr: the cap for the 6mm hole is on the wrong side :D
06:32 PM rue_mohr: the inside of the slot is right, its the other side of the slot :)
06:33 PM Tom_L: yjsy
06:33 PM Tom_L: that's where it was before
06:33 PM Tom_L: i can move it
06:35 PM rue_mohr: I feel bad I didn't notice before
06:35 PM Tom_L: hope you caught it before the print
06:37 PM rue_mohr: I the printer was all heated up and ready to start
06:37 PM rue_mohr: just caught it out of the corner of my eye
06:38 PM rue_mohr: I'm not printing the tests heavy anyhow, doesn't use a tonne of plastic
06:38 PM Tom_L: .3mm?
06:39 PM rue_mohr: yup, 0.2mm didn't work and I dont kow why
06:39 PM rue_mohr: if I accidently get 2 layers its ok too
06:40 PM Tom_L: .25?
06:40 PM rue_mohr: 1 layer you can cut out with a knife, but we drill those to ensure the size anyhow
06:40 PM Tom_L: ok
06:40 PM rue_mohr: na 0.3, then its sure to work
06:41 PM Tom_L: new file posted
06:45 PM rue_mohr: ok, lets try that
06:50 PM rue_mohr: printing
06:52 PM rue_mohr: ok, well I should put that hard drive in the phone system
06:52 PM rue_mohr: replicate the boot sector
07:21 PM rue_mohr: md1 : active raid1 hda1[0] hdc1[2] hdb1[1]
07:21 PM rue_mohr: 35163072 blocks [3/3] [UUU]
07:21 PM rue_mohr: ok
08:14 PM rue_mohr: designed myself a new thumb screw for 6-32
08:14 PM rue_mohr: er,t humb nut
08:15 PM rue_mohr: its shallow, but large dia
08:16 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/main.png
08:16 PM rue_mohr: for grabbing the threads I use a triangle, they conform better than circles
08:46 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Snapper/Knob5.jpg
08:49 PM Tom_L: i think i like the shape of yours better
09:32 PM Tom_L: what'd you find out about your sulphur?
10:38 PM rue_mohr: that even the company that brands it doesn't know
10:39 PM rue_mohr: hmm, I dunno tom, those are nice too
10:46 PM Tom_L: for the mower chute
10:46 PM Tom_L: had wing nuts
10:54 PM rue_mohr: nice
10:55 PM Tom_L: did you try another test handle?
10:55 PM rue_mohr: its still printing
10:55 PM rue_mohr: its close tho
10:55 PM Tom_L: oh
10:56 PM Tom_L: you want a copy of the file?
10:56 PM Tom_L: for safe keeping if nothing else
10:56 PM Tom_L: you'd need 2015 to open it
11:04 PM rue_shop4: ok
11:12 PM Tom_L: i need to check the files, i have 2 and thought they were the same but different file sizes
11:12 PM Tom_L: and i'm not booted in 64bit right now
11:13 PM rue_mohr: :) still printing
11:13 PM rue_mohr: I need to wrap up early for work tommorow
11:13 PM Tom_L: well once we're sure it's good.. i'll post it somewhere
11:13 PM Tom_L: i'm headin to sleep anyway
11:14 PM rue_mohr: yep
11:15 PM rue_mohr: we have a week before the world ends, no need to do everything tonight
11:20 PM Tom_L: it let me brush up on sw a bit which i badly needed
11:33 PM rue_mohr: sounds like it started to pull its stunts of ya too!