#garfield Logs
Mar 26 2021
#garfield Calendar
07:53 AM Guest86113 is now known as aandrew
09:38 AM rue_mohr: whats going on with the suez thing
09:38 AM rue_mohr: a news story I read on it was a joke
09:39 AM rue_mohr: sounds like someone needs the canal to be closed for a while
09:39 AM rue_mohr: political, but, ?
12:59 PM aandrew: I dunno, occam's razor being right most of the time I think it was just a freak thing
12:59 PM aandrew: nobody needs the canal closed to drive oil up
01:22 PM Tom_L: cargo ship got stuck
05:53 PM rue_mohr: I think someone wants something to not go somewhere
05:54 PM rue_mohr: more than the rest of the things that cant if it cant
05:55 PM Tom_L: ?
05:55 PM Tom_L: the canal or the crapper?
05:56 PM rue_mohr: the canal
05:57 PM Tom_L: mmm
07:08 PM aandrew: well someone jammed up the crapper too didn't they
07:08 PM aandrew: I'm not gonna name any names, but it did happen at your place...
07:09 PM rue_shop2: ?
07:09 PM rue_shop2: the rag is to keep the gas in the pipes
07:13 PM aandrew: I'm just ribbing ya
07:15 PM rue_shop2: I cant focus
07:17 PM rue_shop2: so
07:17 PM rue_shop2: I want to stream data between two esp8266
07:17 PM rue_shop2: 8kB/sec
07:18 PM rue_shop2: but it doesn't look like the network layers are set up for it
07:18 PM rue_shop2: they seem to be focused on burst transfers
08:52 PM rue_shop2: https://github.com/chunter1/ESP8266_WLAN_speaker/blob/master/ESP8266_WLAN_speaker.ino
08:52 PM rue_shop2: the sample rate isn't controlled
08:53 PM rue_shop2: !?! am I not seeing something?
08:53 PM rue_shop2: doPWM sends a sample
08:54 PM rue_shop2: omg no
08:54 PM rue_shop2: its worse than that
08:55 PM rue_shop2: their using the i2c system, not to send i2c, but as a horrid bit banged pwm
08:55 PM rue_shop2: FFS
08:55 PM rue_shop2: and its still not rate controlled
09:03 PM rue_shop2: and its running at 3ksps
09:03 PM rue_shop2: not 33
09:04 PM rue_shop2: it looks like the status led is timed better than the audio
09:04 PM Tom_L: heh
09:05 PM rue_shop2: somethig doesn't add up
09:06 PM Tom_L: glad this week is over
09:06 PM rue_shop2: the 33ksps doesn't make sense, but thats what everythng is being set to...
09:06 PM rue_shop2: wasn't a nice one for ya?
09:06 PM Tom_L: coming back from a week off not really
09:07 PM rue_shop2: I'm pretty nervous about how this bathroom thing will go
09:07 PM Tom_L: why?
09:07 PM Tom_L: how come you don't finish it yourself?
09:07 PM rue_shop2: general pessimism
09:07 PM Tom_L: i've seated toilet flanges and done flooring
09:07 PM rue_shop2: so I can mess up the tile and the plumbing?
09:08 PM Tom_L: just measure twice
09:08 PM rue_shop2: history has proven that doens't work for me
09:08 PM Tom_L: the basement flange i didn't glue in since it's in concrete iirc
09:08 PM Tom_L: in case it ever rusts out
09:09 PM Tom_L: tile isn't hard to lay either
09:09 PM Tom_L: doesn't have to be perfect since the toilet covers it
09:09 PM rue_shop2: is the tile around it bonded enough to leave it in place or do I pull some of it up?
09:09 PM rue_shop2: do I put down something on the stuff thats there first
09:10 PM Tom_L: dunno, i'm not there
09:10 PM Tom_L: just tile glue
09:10 PM rue_shop2: should there be a sealer coat underneath of something?
09:10 PM rue_shop2: yea, there are about a million factors I could guess at
09:10 PM Tom_L: stop guessing and just do it
09:10 PM rue_shop2: rather the guy who has done it for ages does it
09:11 PM rue_shop2: or directs me
09:11 PM rue_shop2: for example, the plumber said to upsize the pipe to 4" and bring it straight thru
09:11 PM Tom_L: just a small container of tile glue and a bumpy trowel is all you need after it's cut
09:11 PM rue_shop2: he's going to cut it flush and use a flange that fits on the inside
09:12 PM Tom_L: mine is 3" inside
09:12 PM Tom_L: outside it's 4
09:12 PM rue_shop2: its 4" drain pipe
09:12 PM Tom_L: i redid the whole basement plumbing myself
09:12 PM Tom_L: yeah
09:12 PM rue_shop2: he's going to use a flange that glues to the inside of the pipe
09:12 PM Tom_L: ok
09:13 PM rue_shop2: I'd never heard of that one
09:13 PM rue_shop2: thats the kinda stuff that people who do things every day know
09:13 PM Tom_L: i'd have put a reducer in the 4" below the floor and did the rest with a 3" flange
09:14 PM Tom_L: you can put a puzzle together...
09:14 PM rue_shop2: the origional pipe was 3"
09:14 PM Tom_L: yeah
09:14 PM Tom_L: mine is too
09:14 PM rue_shop2: but the thing is then you have to co-ordinate it with the flooring
09:14 PM Tom_L: 2" in the kitchen 1.5" in the bathroom
09:14 PM Tom_L: and 3" on the toilet
09:14 PM rue_shop2: his way, you just cut the pipe flush with the floor and glue in the flange
09:14 PM Tom_L: yeah
09:15 PM Tom_L: you can still measure and get it right
09:15 PM rue_shop2: the state of some of the existing tile is part of what I'm not sure how to deal with
09:15 PM Tom_L: you're gonna end up spending probably $3-500 when you could do it
09:15 PM rue_shop2: he seems to say if its seated, leave it
09:16 PM rue_shop2: I'm helping wire his house
09:16 PM Tom_L: i hired a plumber for the basement floor and quite frankly i could have done a better job
09:16 PM Tom_L: $1k later
09:17 PM Tom_L: but that came with a sticker i didn't have
09:17 PM rue_shop2: I dont disagree,
09:17 PM Tom_L: sticker goes over the inspector's mouth to shut him up
09:17 PM rue_shop2: this only makes sense if the i2s buffer is empty before they call dopwm
09:18 PM Tom_L: i would have had that done the day you put the wood in
09:19 PM rue_shop2: I know both these guys and can trust their work
09:19 PM Tom_L: if you're trading work that's different
09:19 PM Tom_L: if it's worth it to you
09:19 PM rue_shop2: the tile guy is the one who set me up doing my driveway pillars
09:19 PM rue_shop2: still have his saw
09:19 PM Tom_L: i got a tiny cheap ass tile saw
09:20 PM Tom_L: but it works
09:20 PM rue_shop2: this thing slices 6" rock like its bread
09:20 PM rue_shop2: granite
09:20 PM Tom_L: diamond
09:20 PM rue_shop2: yea,
09:20 PM rue_shop2: I was kinda like 8-|
09:22 PM rue_shop2: the output samples are completely clocked by the recieve data rate
09:22 PM Tom_L: funny, i got a diamond saw for the steel on my mill and it didn't do as well as the abrasive wheels
09:22 PM rue_shop2: and yet he has a 16k sample buffer
09:22 PM Tom_L: carry on...
09:23 PM rue_shop2: no, the diamond needs brittle material
09:24 PM Tom_L: i discovered that :)
09:30 PM rue_mohr: omg, I know why the cords on toasters are so stupid short
09:30 PM Tom_L: current?
09:30 PM rue_mohr: so people cant get from the plug to their bathtub
09:30 PM Tom_L: hah
09:30 PM rue_mohr: freaking 8" cord is SO annoying
09:31 PM rue_mohr: 1530 followers, is that up or down from last time?
09:31 PM rue_mohr: I think its staying the same and I cant tell
09:32 PM Tom_L: dunno, i'm not following it :)
09:32 PM rue_mohr: hmm
09:38 PM Tom_L: work on your blast cage any?
09:58 PM rue_mohr: did you see the pic with the mesh cut?
09:59 PM rue_mohr: thats as far as I got
09:59 PM rue_mohr: then I had to deal with bathroom
09:59 PM rue_mohr: and now I'm just pacing waiting for the bathroom problem to go away
10:12 PM Tom_L: no
10:16 PM rue_shop1: I just want to hide
10:16 PM rue_shop1: from it, still