#garfield Logs

Feb 17 2021

05:58 AM polprog: 8591A acquired
09:21 AM rue_mohr: 91...
12:33 PM Tom_L: 92
12:38 PM aandrew: hahahahahaha https://www.reddit.com/r/ANormalDayInRussia/comments/ll7wah/are_any_fish_left/
12:38 PM aandrew: I thought he was maybe using an acoustic/visual lure app but no
03:41 PM polprog: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/739849787238776855/811707949474381857/IMG_20210217_221640.jpg
04:04 PM Tom_L: pay per view?
04:23 PM aandrew: pay per trigger :-)
05:16 PM polprog: :)
06:59 PM rue_shop1: TUNEZ
07:01 PM rue_shop1: wow lots of fish in the sea
07:03 PM rue_shop1: Tom_L, the cap arrived today, just modifying it now
07:07 PM Tom_L: cap?
07:08 PM Tom_L: the one you did?
07:29 PM Tom_L: or the 2.5" one?
07:33 PM rue_mohr: images under way
07:38 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1180720.jpg
07:38 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1180723.jpg
07:38 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/tempimage/p1180724.jpg
07:39 PM Tom_L: what do you test with that one?
07:39 PM Tom_L: that wall isn't very thick
07:40 PM Tom_L: 3 threads?
07:40 PM Tom_L: is that enough?
07:40 PM rue_mohr: hopefully, 200psi for 2 hrs
07:40 PM Tom_L: better get a good seal on that one
07:41 PM rue_mohr: yep
07:41 PM Tom_L: if it leaks, maybe put a brass fitting in and solder it?
07:41 PM Tom_L: then you'll have more threads to work with
07:41 PM rue_mohr: no, its *just* a 2 hr test
07:41 PM rue_mohr: they tell me I prolly cant get it to 10psi before it pops a leak
07:42 PM rue_mohr: its failed in the past, they just need a cert that says it failed so they can get someone to pay for fixing it
07:42 PM Tom_L: the cap or the test article?
07:42 PM Tom_L: oh
07:42 PM rue_mohr: the piping being tested
07:42 PM Tom_L: well either way i'd solder a brass fitting similar to the one i had
07:42 PM rue_mohr: usually the water pressure is about 150psi, but apparently at the loc its like 70
07:42 PM Tom_L: then your test fixture will last
07:42 PM rue_mohr: so I have to hand pump it the rest of the way
07:43 PM rue_mohr: if it gives I think it'll be an outright shatter
07:43 PM rue_mohr: but 200psi isn't amazing
07:43 PM rue_mohr: so I think it'll be ok
07:44 PM Tom_L: time will tell
07:44 PM Tom_L: my 80 gal goes to 175
07:44 PM Tom_L: takes a bit to bleed it off
07:44 PM rue_mohr: yea, but this is water
07:45 PM Tom_L: i know
07:45 PM Tom_L: that was done from a forging
07:45 PM Tom_L: i bet
07:46 PM rue_mohr: nope, definitly cast
07:46 PM rue_mohr: the sand marks are all over the inside
07:46 PM Tom_L: heh
07:47 PM rue_mohr: but there, I did soemthing today :)
07:47 PM Tom_L: nice size lathe
07:48 PM rue_mohr: :)
07:48 PM Tom_L: i think mine is thick enough you'd blow a tank first
07:49 PM rue_mohr: :)
07:49 PM rue_mohr: tanks were 300 iirc
08:03 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: what happens if you extend the tailstock past 60mm?
08:03 PM rue_mohr: it goes off the end of the thread
08:04 PM rue_mohr: and its a HORRID PAIN to get to catch again
08:05 PM rue_mohr: its a pain cause the tailstock is a bit short, and you have to start around 15-20mm
08:05 PM aandrew: I keep thinking I want to buy that $700 unimat db200
08:05 PM rue_mohr: lathe?
08:05 PM aandrew: it's tiny but has all the attachments
08:05 PM aandrew: yeah
08:05 PM rue_mohr: hmm
08:05 PM rue_mohr: LOTS of the things I do are really small
08:05 PM aandrew: that's what I'm thinking too, almost everything I would want to do would be small
08:06 PM rue_mohr: but a few have maxed it out
08:06 PM Tom_L: aandrew, skunkworks in #linuxcnc just did a unimat with linuxcnc
08:06 PM aandrew: that's a 7x14?
08:06 PM Tom_L: dunno what model
08:06 PM Tom_L: you could ask him
08:06 PM aandrew: Tom_L: yeah it'd be a cute cnc
08:06 PM Tom_L: he got a bunch from a school
08:06 PM rue_mohr: http://ruemohr.org/~ircjunk/projects/vacuumplate/p1130284.jpg
08:07 PM Tom_L: i remember that
08:07 PM Tom_L: your disk sander?
08:07 PM rue_mohr: it was actually designed around the max the lathe could do
08:07 PM rue_mohr: that ones the vacuum table
08:07 PM rue_mohr: the disc sander used the same casting
08:07 PM rue_mohr: I did two extra
08:07 PM rue_mohr: seeing as they were a pain to get right
08:08 PM rue_mohr: the only thing is, with the disc sander, the glue doesn't hold to the metal like it did with the wood
08:09 PM aandrew: a new chinese 7x14 is the same price
08:10 PM rue_mohr: make quality
08:10 PM rue_mohr: that is to say, build quality
08:10 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, whats yours?
08:11 PM Tom_L: did that mismash of aluminum machine ok?
08:11 PM rue_mohr: yup
08:11 PM rue_mohr: its kinda brittle
08:11 PM rue_mohr: prolly on the fast side of the cooling
08:12 PM rue_mohr: one of the things I'v learned is that there is a lot to metelergy
08:12 PM Tom_L: a guy in #linuxcnc has a doctorate in metalurgy
08:12 PM Tom_L: he's pretty sharp
08:12 PM darkrose: what's my what?
08:13 PM rue_mohr: that would classify as a lot
08:13 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, lathe
08:13 PM darkrose: also, why am I not in bed?
08:13 PM rue_mohr: its old isn't it?
08:13 PM darkrose: only have the Taig II now
08:13 PM rue_mohr: want a laptop so you can be in bed?
08:13 PM Tom_L: cause you wanna chat with us right?
08:13 PM rue_mohr: oo newish
08:13 PM darkrose: newish = mid 80's, sure
08:14 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, so, want a guide to fixing up a trucking trailer?
08:14 PM rue_mohr: mid 80's still had some quality left
08:14 PM darkrose: I have several laptops, but I go to bed to sleep, not to stay online
08:14 PM rue_mohr: https://ryder.com/used-trucks/-/media/Project/UsedTrucks/UVS/Images/Vehicles/Types/Truck-Types---Trailers/truck_types_dry_trailer_image.jpg
08:15 PM rue_mohr: look at all the room to slign a power/water suystem underneeth!
08:15 PM rue_mohr: pff -> rue_bed
08:15 PM darkrose: heh
08:15 PM rue_mohr: 8x40 feet?
08:16 PM rue_mohr: usually about $4000 used
08:16 PM rue_mohr: put $4000 into fixing it up, could come out quite nice
08:16 PM rue_mohr: whats trucking to move? $100/hr?
08:16 PM Tom_L: not insulated
08:16 PM rue_mohr: at the speeds I see people drive in au, 1hr can go a long way
08:17 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, no, thats part of the $4000 fixup
08:17 PM Tom_L: about like texas ehh?
08:17 PM rue_mohr: electrical, plumning
08:17 PM darkrose: problem with things like that trailer, is that you either have to hide it on a few hundred acres (big $$$ or rent), put it in a caravan park (rent), or risk a fine for not having all the permits which you can't get with a temporary dwelling
08:17 PM Tom_L: container would be a better bet
08:17 PM rue_mohr: you just move when people get angry
08:17 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, funny enough, nobody can move a loaded container
08:18 PM Tom_L: google pods
08:18 PM rue_mohr: I tried to get one arranged here to get my dad moved
08:18 PM rue_mohr: everyone said "NOT LOADED"
08:18 PM rue_mohr: and I was all like "ITS A FREAKING CARGO CONTAINER"
08:18 PM Tom_L: https://www.pods.com/
08:18 PM rue_mohr: whats the point of them if you cant move them loaded
08:19 PM darkrose: wut, container + 2 tons load = cheap, container + 10 tons load = not as cheap
08:19 PM rue_mohr: but NO company (here+vancouver) could do it
08:19 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, the trailer is REALLY movable
08:19 PM rue_mohr: no special anything
08:19 PM darkrose: can put a container on a train and ship it across country, or on a boat and ship it around the world
08:19 PM rue_mohr: lots of tractors available, companies to just privite guys with tractors
08:20 PM rue_mohr: they can do that with those too (yea, harder)
08:21 PM rue_mohr: tho, a container can be equipped with a tray that can be tractored
08:21 PM Tom_L: they ship alot of trailers here by train
08:21 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, I was about a month from doing it
08:21 PM Tom_L: cheaper than trucking it
08:21 PM rue_mohr: I'd worked it prettymuch all out
08:21 PM rue_mohr: its better than a boat, it cant sink
08:21 PM rue_mohr: well, you ARE in australlia...
08:21 PM rue_mohr: some of those floods are pretty viscious
08:22 PM rue_mohr: but then you can just have it tractored away
08:22 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, there may be people looking for nightwatch
08:23 PM darkrose: basically everything's containers here, even trucking, they stopped putting trailers on trains years ago, the expensive part of moving a container is the truck to the railyard
08:23 PM rue_mohr: in which case its perfect, they pay to move you in, you keep an ear on things, you get somewhere to park it
08:23 PM rue_mohr: hmm
08:23 PM rue_mohr: maybe call around and double check if anyone can move them loaded
08:24 PM rue_mohr: the other bonus with the tralier, is that you have that space under it for water/generator
08:24 PM rue_mohr: you dont have any "under floor" in a container
08:24 PM darkrose: already have, if I move interstate it goes by container
08:24 PM rue_mohr: k
08:25 PM rue_mohr: well, as much as it wouldn't work as well here, here isn't where you are :)
08:25 PM rue_mohr: when I went over there for a month I got to learn about metric tap&die
08:25 PM rue_mohr: not used metric up till then
08:25 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: a friend of mine bought one of those for his wife's workshop when they lived in gananoque
08:26 PM rue_mohr: gan....
08:26 PM aandrew: lisetn
08:26 PM rue_mohr: ok
08:26 PM aandrew: you got all kinds of crazy indian names and even indian language signs over there, we have the frenchies here
08:26 PM rue_mohr: :)
08:26 PM rue_mohr: there is a road here, you dont say it or write it
08:26 PM rue_mohr: you just take a picture of the sign
08:28 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, how much for a ... "40 footer"?
08:28 PM rue_mohr: is that a long one?
08:28 PM rue_mohr: 320 square feet
08:28 PM rue_mohr: my shop is 480
08:29 PM Tom_L: 53' max
08:30 PM rue_mohr: 8' wide?
08:30 PM aandrew: get two, weld 'em together and tear out the middle wall, that'd be a hell of nice shop
08:30 PM rue_mohr: or do they do wider?
08:30 PM darkrose: yeah, $2k-4k for a 40' high cube
08:30 PM rue_mohr: aandrew, she prolly needs to be abel to move
08:30 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: oh yeah that probably precludes the ability to move it
08:30 PM aandrew: although if you want ot move a shop there are all kinds of other considerations to make
08:30 PM rue_mohr: heh 8*7 floorspace, 40' cielding
08:31 PM aandrew: hahaha
08:31 PM aandrew: like what they do with mobile concrete factories for roads
08:31 PM rue_mohr: "damnit the lightbulb burned out again"
08:31 PM aandrew: just tip it on the end
08:31 PM aandrew: it's funny
08:31 PM aandrew: 50' long is nothing. 50' up in the air is something entirely different
08:31 PM Tom_L: building rockets?
08:32 PM Tom_L: there's one sticking out of the ground on S I35 on the way to Tx
08:32 PM Tom_L: been there for years
08:32 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, ok, what are the reasons against it.
08:32 PM darkrose: speaking of odd place names, australia has a few
08:33 PM rue_mohr: yea, you got crazy names over there
08:33 PM rue_mohr: but in cool ways, not like ... what we got
08:34 PM darkrose: there's a hill called Chinaman's Knob, and places like Burrumbuttock
08:34 PM rue_mohr: https://www.thelocalweekly.ca/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/P-6-sign-pic-2-300x200.jpg
08:34 PM rue_mohr: I work in sechelt, they renamed it...
08:35 PM darkrose: land + container + building costs to make it legal is the downside
08:35 PM rue_mohr: in canada a trailer with wheels is classed different
08:36 PM darkrose: I found a 3 bedroom house in good shape on ¼ acre for $30k the other day
08:36 PM rue_mohr: if you can move it at any moment, you just do before they finishe complaint paperwork
08:36 PM rue_mohr: oh!!!!!
08:36 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: need more pixels
08:36 PM darkrose: but, it's in coober pedy
08:36 PM rue_mohr: thats 1 roooms to rent out and a workspace!
08:36 PM aandrew: and that sign doesn't appear to have any 7s in it
08:36 PM rue_mohr: https://bcaletrail.ca/app/uploads/2020/06/Sechelt-28-1024x768.jpg
08:37 PM darkrose: which is so hot that most buildings are underground, and they welded up steel trees to give the town centre a garden
08:37 PM rue_mohr: hmm
08:37 PM rue_mohr: so, lots of solar potential
08:37 PM aandrew: https://i.cbc.ca/1.4049722.1600111628!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_780/british-columbia-road-sign.jpg is the kind of thing I'm talking about
08:37 PM rue_mohr: both by electrical panel and steam generator
08:38 PM rue_mohr: yea
08:38 PM rue_mohr: the natives are on a warpath
08:38 PM rue_mohr: and this is the result
08:38 PM rue_mohr: isn't it nice to live in canada?
08:39 PM Tom_L: the power outtages here have been attributed to 'clean energy'
08:39 PM Tom_L: windmills are freezing up
08:39 PM aandrew: yeah I saw that
08:39 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, well, if its not toxic, I'd say buy it
08:39 PM rue_mohr: then it keeps you up with inflation
08:39 PM rue_mohr: you dont have to keep it
08:40 PM rue_mohr: you can turn it over the day after you have the keys if something better comes up
08:40 PM aandrew: less than 20% comes from renewables, yet its the renewables fault. Nothing to say of zero contingency/winterization planning and buying the cheapest windmills possible which can't or are not economically viable to winterize
08:40 PM Tom_L: they build those about 50 mi from here
08:40 PM Tom_L: one place
08:41 PM rue_mohr: those blades must be amazingly light for their size
08:41 PM rue_mohr: saw a video of them being moved
08:41 PM Tom_L: rather long
08:41 PM aandrew: Tom_L: as I understand it this isn't even a "once in a century" kind of storm, it's more like "once every decade" kind of thing
08:41 PM rue_mohr: yea
08:41 PM Tom_L: oversize for a regular truck haul
08:41 PM rue_mohr: "Whats its only like 300 feet too long!!?"
08:41 PM Tom_L: aandrew, i haven't seen it here probably since the 80's
08:42 PM aandrew: also read somewhere that there was actually money given out to winterize but it was all frittered away rather than put to its intended use
08:42 PM Tom_L: rue_mohr, they have a trail vehicle following
08:42 PM aandrew: yay deregulation!
08:42 PM aandrew: Tom_L: ok, so maybe once every 40y, that's getting pretty rare
08:42 PM aandrew: we have "hundred year floods"
08:43 PM Tom_L: yeah
08:44 PM darkrose: we get big floods every 20y or so here
08:44 PM darkrose: '74 '93 '11
08:44 PM Tom_L: we have a big flood canal here that goes around the city
08:44 PM aandrew: I don't have much sympathy for the companies that didn't have contingenices in place but my god there's going to be a lot of deaths, not only from cold but also from CO poisoning
08:44 PM Tom_L: i've seen it clear full maybe 2x
08:45 PM Tom_L: same level as the river that carries the other half
08:45 PM aandrew: there are a lot of people who rely on the infrastructure that failed them utterly
08:45 PM Tom_L: bridges are being updated
08:46 PM Tom_L: on a federal level i think
08:46 PM rue_mohr: 11+20 = 2021...
08:48 PM darkrose: you feeling ok rue?
08:49 PM rue_mohr: *blink
08:49 PM rue_mohr: apparently no
08:49 PM rue_mohr: t
08:49 PM aandrew: haha
08:49 PM aandrew: he's using polprog's dropped calculator
08:49 PM rue_mohr: I suggest you get that place tho
08:49 PM rue_mohr: in 10 years, a better place might come up cheap
08:50 PM rue_mohr: and that place will keep you up with inflation
09:15 PM aandrew: ugh. long time (since high school) friend of mine's dad just emailed me asking him to call him in the morning regarding my friend
09:15 PM aandrew: I got a real real bad feeling about this
09:46 PM rue__: thats not usually a good way to get a call
09:53 PM rue__ is now known as rue_mohr
10:21 PM rue_shop3: oscillator?
10:21 PM rue_shop3: whats to maje
10:21 PM rue_shop3: make
10:21 PM rue_shop3: servo?
10:21 PM rue_shop3: I need something simple I can finish
10:21 PM rue_shop3: + feedback
10:21 PM rue_shop3: spot welder?
10:22 PM rue_shop3: hmm
10:22 PM rue_shop3: send me that schematic later would you?
10:22 PM Tom_L: hotdog cooker
10:22 PM rue_shop3: we can make a box
10:22 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:22 PM Tom_L: solder 2 nails on an extension cord and plug them in
10:22 PM rue_shop3: I need a case for the electronics of the water dispenser
10:23 PM Tom_L: blue cases too small?
10:23 PM rue_shop3: heh, much too small
10:23 PM Tom_L: still got a bag full of em
10:23 PM rue_shop3: I need to come down with my truck :)
10:24 PM Tom_L: you got enough junk already
10:24 PM rue_shop3: plan a trip see how many people I can visit
10:24 PM rue_shop3: no
10:24 PM rue_shop3: I need more stuff
10:24 PM rue_shop3: tho I'm quite impressed how the reserved hold up when I build things
10:24 PM Tom_L: take you to the local surplus and you'd overload the truck
10:24 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:25 PM Tom_L: really only one good one left now
10:25 PM rue_shop3: yea, where is it all going
10:25 PM rue_shop3: just away?
10:25 PM Tom_L: the steel guy sold out to a big company
10:26 PM rue_shop3: the good old days are getting gooder
10:26 PM Tom_L: they still sell scrap but it's just not the same
10:26 PM Tom_L: electronics guy closed
10:26 PM rue_shop3: nopbody to take over
10:27 PM Tom_L: daughter did for a while
10:27 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/local_stock/9.jpg
10:27 PM Tom_L: need some stuff to turn on your lathe?
10:27 PM rue_shop3: oof
10:27 PM Tom_L: there was bigger
10:27 PM rue_shop3: I have a form made with a peice of a branch for casting round bars to turn
10:28 PM rue_shop3: I have a few of those bars around
10:28 PM rue_shop3: ClosetMoon, made a few
10:28 PM Tom_L: it used to be fun going there, now it's too organized
10:29 PM rue_shop3: heh
10:29 PM Tom_L: had all sorts of surplus machinery etc and that's all gone now
10:29 PM rue_shop3: thats the fun stuff
10:29 PM rue_shop3: but it has to turn over
10:29 PM Tom_L: boeing surplus closed several years back
10:30 PM rue_shop3: that huge scrap pile in sechelt was awesome that way
10:30 PM Tom_L: they had all sorts of good stuff
10:30 PM rue_shop3: unregulated
10:30 PM rue_shop3: I know a fellow who used to go buy tooling by the lb
10:30 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:30 PM Tom_L: my tool guy did that
10:30 PM Tom_L: now he's down to just new stuff too
10:31 PM rue_shop3: so, I need to dial back
10:31 PM rue_shop3: catch up with my old dreams so I can move forward
10:31 PM Tom_L: he's got rolls and rolls of emery paper
10:31 PM Tom_L: just about every grit
10:31 PM Tom_L: i grabbed a couple of those a while back
10:31 PM rue_shop3: I have a 1"roll for the belt sander
10:32 PM rue_shop3: but the tape for looping it doen't hold that awesome
10:32 PM Tom_L: i was about out so i got a couple different grits
10:32 PM rue_shop3: the last one I ironed in
10:32 PM rue_shop3: 42.5"
10:32 PM rue_shop3: hum
10:33 PM rue_shop3: I liked the 6V lantern batteries
10:33 PM rue_shop3: not the square ones, the rectangular ones
10:33 PM rue_shop3: with the screw connections
10:33 PM rue_shop3: gee I blew a lot of parts up with those
10:33 PM Tom_L: iirc they used to make 1.5v ones too
10:33 PM rue_shop3: huh
10:33 PM Tom_L: big
10:34 PM rue_shop3: dont see those big orange flashers for road blocks anymore
10:35 PM Tom_L: https://www.prc68.com/I/Images/No6-6V529.jpg
10:35 PM Tom_L: similar
10:35 PM Tom_L: but not quite
10:35 PM rue_shop3: https://www.ihlcanada.com/product/image/medium/10297_1.jpg
10:36 PM Tom_L: https://www.ericwrobbel.com/collections/pix/batteries-2f-b.jpg
10:36 PM Tom_L: like the ones on the right
10:36 PM rue_shop3: :)
10:36 PM rue_shop3: I have a 22.5V in 9V form, with end connections
10:38 PM rue_shop3: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61RZinzn1WL._AC_SX425_.jpg
10:38 PM Tom_L: very little current
10:39 PM rue_shop3: yea
10:39 PM rue_shop3: I tried to power a ttl circuit from a 9V once as a kid
10:39 PM rue_shop3: 7805, man that thing didn't last long, even on alkalines
10:40 PM rue_shop3: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s3UAAOSwKHtd4zfF/s-l300.jpg
10:40 PM rue_shop3: I had some 45V like the boxes too
10:40 PM rue_shop3: not as a kid
10:40 PM rue_shop3: prolly for the better
10:43 PM Tom_L: bedtime. i'm fallin asleep
10:43 PM rue_shop3: gngiht
10:43 PM rue_shop3: I should make supper
10:46 PM ForrestGuy: Just a BushyMoon doing a test
10:59 PM MoonyMoon: what does rue_mohr know of making supper
11:00 PM rue_mohr: boil it, eat it
11:00 PM rue_mohr: MoonyMoon, code till you go to sleep tonight
11:00 PM rue_mohr: Its a good thing we did that pretest on the fire alarm today!
11:01 PM MoonyMoon: :P actually I'm all burnt out on asterisk
11:01 PM rue_mohr: bunch of small issues that would have killed an official inspection
11:01 PM MoonyMoon: I didnt hear any alarms.
11:01 PM rue_mohr: MoonyMoon, what have you done with asterisk
11:01 PM MoonyMoon: Oh well good :)
11:01 PM rue_mohr: MoonyMoon, the restaurant horns aren't in
11:01 PM rue_mohr: we tested the fish market ones and grants shop
11:02 PM MoonyMoon: just applying some book examples to this 'freePBX' GUI bullshit
11:02 PM rue_mohr: gui?
11:02 PM rue_mohr: your doing it wrong
11:02 PM MoonyMoon: yes
11:02 PM MoonyMoon: I am
11:02 PM MoonyMoon: I told you the whole story already
11:02 PM rue_mohr: tell me how it goes tho
11:02 PM rue_mohr: yea
11:02 PM MoonyMoon: moving to pure debian and asterisk soon
11:03 PM MoonyMoon: after I know what I'm doing
11:03 PM MoonyMoon: eating now
11:03 PM rue_mohr: your on ubuntu now?
11:04 PM rue_mohr: so the camper
11:05 PM rue_mohr: what you have in queue for that
11:06 PM MoonyMoon: torch on roof
11:06 PM rue_mohr: that too?
11:07 PM MoonyMoon: the only RV in the world that doesnt leak
11:13 PM rue_mohr: so, want a laptop for bed?
11:14 PM MoonyMoon: I doubt I need it but thanks.
11:14 PM rue_mohr: you can chat till you fall asleep
11:14 PM rue_mohr: or play radio
11:15 PM rue_mohr: or maybe even other media
11:15 PM MoonyMoon: what are you implying ;)
11:16 PM MoonyMoon: I know computer history lectures
11:16 PM MoonyMoon: thats the shit that turns my crank
11:16 PM rue_mohr: sometimes rhe best audio programs are on youtube
11:16 PM MoonyMoon: oh yeah,
11:19 PM rue_mohr: anyhow, I have 9 of them now
11:19 PM rue_mohr: *recently
11:19 PM rue_mohr: so far they all seem to work