#garfield Logs
Feb 14 2021
#garfield Calendar
12:00 AM Tom_L: may as well fill the gap
12:06 AM rue_mohr: so my boss started a focused div.
12:06 AM rue_mohr: there *were* 5 of us once
12:06 AM rue_mohr: and it boiled just down to me for quite a while
12:06 AM rue_mohr: I have a helper now, and he's trained for all sorts of stuff, but I dont think its what he wants to be doing
01:48 AM rue_mohr: editor is comming along, but I need to adjust the base code a bit
01:48 AM rue_mohr: seeing that I need some things to work differently
04:23 AM rue_mohr: heh, finding errors when I start using the editor to edit itself
05:48 AM Tom_L: :)
09:55 AM Tom_L: so
09:56 AM Tom_L: should i tell them it's a hobby train part or a plumbing adapter
12:15 PM ClosetMoon: Plumbing
12:15 PM Tom_L: moonymoon!
12:16 PM Tom_L: did you see the part?
12:16 PM ClosetMoon: I'm lost on the context, and again I can only do text :P
12:16 PM ClosetMoon: are you soourcing a part?
12:16 PM Tom_L: extinguisher test cap
12:17 PM ClosetMoon: oh for pressure test?
12:17 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/extinguisher_nut/Pressure_test_cap3.jpg
12:17 PM Tom_L: he was having trouble finding one
12:18 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/extinguisher_nut/Pressure_test_cap4.jpg
12:18 PM Tom_L: so i got my pocket knife out and whittled one out
12:18 PM ClosetMoon: forgive my test only-ness, but what makes it special?
12:19 PM ClosetMoon: not NPT?
12:19 PM Tom_L: he just couldn't find one that they would ship to him
12:19 PM Tom_L: 1.5" thread x 16 on the bottle end
12:19 PM Tom_L: yeah the other one is 1/2" npt
12:19 PM ClosetMoon: Oh Metric? hay?
12:19 PM Tom_L: no not metric
12:19 PM Tom_L: inch
12:19 PM Tom_L: it's a big thread
12:19 PM ClosetMoon: oh fuck
12:20 PM ClosetMoon: early yet :P
12:20 PM ClosetMoon: in the day that is
12:20 PM Tom_L: that's 2.125" round bar
12:20 PM ClosetMoon: I saw the words 1.5 thread
12:21 PM ClosetMoon: thread pitch of 16 right
12:21 PM Tom_L: yes
12:21 PM ClosetMoon: ok... waking up :D
12:24 PM ClosetMoon: so this is for Rue?
12:24 PM Tom_L: yeah
12:25 PM ClosetMoon: why not does he just machine one?
12:25 PM Tom_L: he started one from steel and handed it off to someone to cut the thread i think
12:26 PM Tom_L: but afik nothing has happened yet
12:26 PM ClosetMoon: ok :P
12:27 PM ClosetMoon: maybe he doesnt have the hardware to do standard thread on his lathe XD
12:27 PM Tom_L: problem i have is no way to test fit the large thread other than thread charts
12:28 PM Tom_L: probably not
12:28 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z47eQH6NaTE
12:30 PM ClosetMoon: I have to go hang an antenna now :P
12:30 PM ClosetMoon: peace
12:30 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/thread_mills/Thread_mill2.jpg
12:30 PM Tom_L: allows you to cut just about any thread
12:30 PM rue_mohr: morning, no I dont thik the other guy got to it yet
12:31 PM rue_mohr: (Roy B)
12:32 PM rue_mohr: I often screw up external thread, this is internal, and nonally do I not have a bit to do internal thread, I doubt I could pull it off in even 5 attempts, and each attempt takes a lot of work to get to
12:32 PM Tom_L: :)
12:33 PM Tom_L: hopefully one and done
01:04 PM Tom_L: aparently no holiday monday
01:24 PM rue_mohr: I'm using the editor to write itself, its interesting when you really get into using something how many things you notice
01:28 PM rue_mohr: hmm is the terminal in the document or the document in the terminal
01:33 PM Tom_L: chicken or the egg?
01:33 PM rue_mohr: its become important
01:34 PM rue_mohr: I have to track mapping between the document and the cursor on the screen
01:34 PM Tom_L: it doesn't just follow the bouncing ball?
01:35 PM rue_mohr: sometimes the ball doesn't exist
01:35 PM rue_mohr: and you have to sort out what area of space-time to create in order for it to
01:36 PM Tom_L: i was hoping to get snowed in tomorrow but it's not looking that way so far
01:36 PM rue_mohr: its snowing here, but its questionable just how much its going to stack up, it keeps going from heavy to nothing
01:37 PM Tom_L: same here but it's small flakes and blowing alot
02:00 PM rue_mohr: ok, the mouse-ability can be turned on and off
02:02 PM Tom_L: ooo it's got rodents too!
02:03 PM rue_mohr: no ability to copy/paste yet tho
02:03 PM rue_mohr: for that I need a system for start-end blocks
02:03 PM rue_mohr: and for that I need a model
02:03 PM rue_mohr: which means figuring out something that can handle the duality of screen space and file space
02:05 PM rue_mohr: ...
02:05 PM rue_mohr: for example, if the user moves the cursor to 20,8 on the terminal and starts typing
02:05 PM rue_mohr: does that position exist in the file?
02:05 PM rue_mohr: maybe line 8 is only 4 characters long?
02:06 PM rue_mohr: maybe there isn't a line 8
02:06 PM rue_mohr: right now, it works it out on the fly and adjusts the file with padding to suit
02:06 PM rue_mohr: but, there are like 8 places it needs to do that
02:11 PM Tom_L: it shouldn't be allowed to go past written txst
02:11 PM Tom_L: (after clicking)
02:12 PM Tom_L: and clicking on a line past the end of line should move the cursor to the end of line
02:37 PM rue_mohr: my philosphy is different
02:37 PM rue_mohr: if you want to put the cursor somewhere off-file, you can
02:38 PM rue_mohr: and if you type a character there, it will pad the file as required to get your character there
02:38 PM rue_mohr: so *everywhere* on the terminal is valid, it will be made so
02:39 PM rue_mohr: but there are grey zones
02:39 PM rue_mohr: if your at that off-file location, and hit backspace, there is nothing to do accept move the cursor one space left
02:40 PM rue_mohr: however, if you hit delete, it needs to move the previous line to the cursors right side, which also needs padding for the line your on
02:41 PM rue_mohr: well I guess if I dont start lunch its not gonna be ready anytime soon
03:25 PM rue_mohr: hmm
03:25 PM rue_mohr: a) take a nap, wake up and do things
03:25 PM rue_mohr: b) push thru, not get anything done
04:22 PM Tom_L: i'd go with c)
04:34 PM aandrew: wtf: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/niQ3heWwF6SydhS7R/making-vaccine
04:41 PM Tom_L: awesome
06:18 PM aandrew: I don't know about you but I sure as fuck would never trust something I brewed up in my kitchen to be both medically potent and medically safe
06:34 PM rue_mohr: huh
08:06 PM Tom_L: 0F currently
08:57 PM MoonyMoon: HOly FUCK I dislike kids sometimes!!!
08:57 PM rue_mohr: mmm
08:58 PM rue_mohr: you hate people sometimes
08:58 PM rue_mohr: MoonyMoon, so it turns out
08:58 PM Tom_L: how do they feel about you?
08:58 PM rue_mohr: that over ssh alt-1 alt-2 etc dont work
08:58 PM rue_mohr: MoonyMoon, has spells of "I need to go live in the bush" :)
08:59 PM MoonyMoon: for sure
08:59 PM MoonyMoon: and I dont know
08:59 PM MoonyMoon: and to the ssh thing 'duh man'
08:59 PM MoonyMoon: one tty per ssh seah
08:59 PM MoonyMoon: sesh*
08:59 PM rue_mohr: no
08:59 PM rue_mohr: not alt-f1
08:59 PM rue_mohr: alt-1
09:00 PM rue_mohr: I can do it locally, but not remote
09:00 PM MoonyMoon: oh keycodes
09:00 PM rue_mohr: yea
09:00 PM MoonyMoon: ok
09:00 PM rue_mohr: those are the keycodes I used for the auto-insert
09:00 PM MoonyMoon: well..
09:00 PM rue_mohr: they dont carry thru the ssh ... at all?
09:01 PM MoonyMoon: try run nning a keycode dumper over ssh??
09:01 PM rue_mohr: good idea
09:01 PM rue_mohr: I wonder if they flip the same mode flags I do
09:01 PM MoonyMoon: let me rant here for a moment
09:01 PM rue_mohr: mhm
09:02 PM MoonyMoon: so this kids in the bathroom
09:02 PM MoonyMoon: with her head phones on and some kinda tablet thing
09:02 PM MoonyMoon: AND THE LIGHTS OFF
09:02 PM rue_mohr: you have a wierd thing with the kids and tech
09:02 PM MoonyMoon: I'm opening the door cuz i'm in the need of a shit
09:03 PM MoonyMoon: and I go "aaah"
09:03 PM rue_mohr: hah
09:03 PM MoonyMoon: yeah big angry pile of BULLSHIT
09:03 PM MoonyMoon: shes yelling at me
09:03 PM rue_mohr: her fault
09:03 PM MoonyMoon: were both suprized
09:03 PM rue_mohr: lock door
09:03 PM MoonyMoon: absolutly!
09:03 PM MoonyMoon: fucking stupid kids!
09:03 PM MoonyMoon: I'm done.
09:04 PM rue_mohr: tell her next time your going in with a camera and facebook
09:04 PM rue_mohr: if its not locked...
09:04 PM MoonyMoon: no way
09:04 PM rue_mohr: she wont forget to lock it
09:04 PM MoonyMoon: there is no lock
09:05 PM MoonyMoon: only logic
09:05 PM rue_mohr: why the hell not
09:05 PM rue_mohr: should be a bathroom door
09:05 PM MoonyMoon: why, its not like anyone would walk in.
09:05 PM rue_mohr: with the hole to force it if someone screws up
09:05 PM MoonyMoon: UNLESS THE LIUGHTS OFF!!!!'
09:05 PM rue_mohr: should have a bathroom lock
09:06 PM MoonyMoon: not my house and I dont give a FLUF!
09:06 PM rue_mohr: did you take the bathroom lock handle off?
09:06 PM MoonyMoon: susans house susans knobs
09:07 PM rue_mohr: someone removed the bathroom knobs
09:07 PM MoonyMoon: new handles
09:07 PM MoonyMoon: no locks
09:07 PM rue_mohr: bathroom should have one
09:07 PM rue_mohr: with the paperclip override
09:07 PM MoonyMoon: meh, you tell her that. I dont give a HOOT
09:08 PM rue_mohr: I have keylocks on the bedroom doors here, which is unusual
09:08 PM MoonyMoon: secret shits eh?
09:08 PM Tom_L: paranoid?
09:08 PM rue_mohr: had room mates
09:08 PM MoonyMoon: I dont even close the door unless the gitrl kids around
09:08 PM rue_mohr: just easiest to do lock matering with the front door and everyone can keep to their corners
09:09 PM MoonyMoon: Tom_L: right? XD
09:09 PM Tom_L: i got a lock set i got from a bud
09:09 PM Tom_L: keying kit
09:09 PM MoonyMoon: cool
09:09 PM MoonyMoon: bunch of pins n stuff?
09:10 PM Tom_L: yeah
09:10 PM MoonyMoon: nice
09:10 PM Tom_L: i had my garage mastered for a while
09:10 PM Tom_L: somone could have acces but not to the house
09:10 PM MoonyMoon: cool policy. maybe?
09:11 PM Tom_L: he works with me
09:11 PM Tom_L: and needs in sometimes
09:11 PM MoonyMoon: oh ok
09:11 PM Tom_L: now it's just a garage code instead
09:11 PM MoonyMoon: good stuff
09:11 PM Tom_L: you know... like rue's shop
09:12 PM Tom_L: only everyone has access to it :)
09:13 PM MoonyMoon: ha, it comes and goes with him
09:17 PM rue_shop2: ma wanders in, takes things, doesn't tell me, forgets to bring back tools
09:18 PM rue_shop2: so I have things go supprise-missing, and turn up in the garden
09:18 PM rue_shop2: or with paint all over them
09:18 PM rue_shop2: to prevent it the door HAS to be locked
09:19 PM Tom_L: :)
09:19 PM rue_shop2: all the explaining and telling her not to do it has not worked
09:20 PM rue_shop2: she knows
09:23 PM * MoonyMoon shakes his head
09:23 PM rue_shop1: I'm pretty sure that one of my precision ground rods became a steak for a garden thing.
09:23 PM MoonyMoon: poor rue
09:23 PM MoonyMoon: no fucking doubt
09:39 PM Tom_L: so rue_mohr
09:40 PM Tom_L: when i declar that, hobby train part or plumbing adapter?
09:41 PM rue_shop2: hah
09:41 PM rue_shop2: go for train
09:41 PM rue_shop2: hydrotest cap for model boiler
09:42 PM Tom_L: least suspicious
09:44 PM rue_shop2: COVID-19 SAMPLE :)
09:44 PM rue_shop2: prolly wouldn't even make it to the second stop
09:52 PM Tom_L: hah
10:31 PM aandrew: https://imgur.com/a/GNe8FiC final version of the rail mounts
10:32 PM aandrew: that arrangement lets me tune the vertical height precisely which turns out is super important since the motor height can't be tuned perfectly, but it also allows me to tune out the wobble pretty good
10:32 PM aandrew: the motor works much less now, smoother movement
10:33 PM aandrew: got some 3/16" brass smooth rod and a 150mm leadscrew coming, which will let me make this move over a longer distance which might be necessary
10:33 PM rue_shop1: just imagine if we'd all grown up with mechanno and they had made techniq mechanno and persued it
10:34 PM aandrew: yep
10:35 PM aandrew: meccano is pretty cool but lacks the easy rigidity that lego has
10:35 PM aandrew: both systems are fucking expensive
10:37 PM aandrew: I have to say I think my son is on the right track with this hot melt glue shit
10:37 PM aandrew: I really disliked it but for sticking cheap modules to lego or whatever it worked well
10:39 PM rue_shop1: using the hardware to plot my hearing
10:40 PM Tom_L: -3f brrrrr
10:41 PM aandrew: rue_shop1: I had tht done professionally. my left ear is 40dB down from my right, which is 1.5dB above average
10:41 PM aandrew: she was like "no wonder you have tinnitus"
10:42 PM rue_shop1: hmm
10:43 PM rue_shop1: do you know how many points they did?
10:43 PM rue_shop1: did they do a sweep?
10:43 PM aandrew: they don't sweep in a linear sense
10:43 PM rue_shop1: yea, I'm sweeping
10:43 PM aandrew: they play a tone at x amplitude and y frequency and ask you to click a button if you hear something
10:44 PM rue_shop1: and not the threshold, but an ear-ear balance
10:44 PM rue_shop1: yea
10:44 PM rue_shop1: ok, I dont like those
10:44 PM aandrew: and they cover the spectrum but randomly to help reduce "I think so"
10:44 PM Tom_L: iirc they did a warble when i had mine tested
10:45 PM aandrew: what I think is amazing is they have something (I think it's called ORT?) where they can actually get a good idea of what you're hearing by the response of your ear
10:46 PM rue_shop1: reflection?
10:46 PM rue_shop1: I'v heard
10:46 PM aandrew: I think so
10:52 PM rue_shop1: first pass shows a big difference between the two ears
10:52 PM rue_shop1: I offset zero, so, its not 3db
10:53 PM rue_shop1: this is why I'm doing it on me, I need to know what the numbers mean
10:53 PM rue_shop1: =72000000/(((A1/14)+25)*256)
10:53 PM rue_shop1: ^^ formula for stm32 -> freq translation
10:54 PM rue_shop1: haha the amp on the headphones died
10:56 PM rue_shop1: ah, zero is the same, it must be abotu 3db then
10:56 PM rue_shop1: if they are scaled the same...
10:56 PM rue_shop1: huh no, I'll have for force the scales on the charts...
11:13 PM rue_mohr: I can probably get the stm32 to calc the freq
11:13 PM rue_mohr: I cant get the darn things to do floating point tho
11:14 PM rue_mohr: gcc keeps trying to use the non-existant fpu, and it faults on illegal instruction
11:55 PM rue_shop1: hmm
11:59 PM aandrew: rue_shop1: what are your cflags