#garfield Logs
Dec 22 2020
#garfield Calendar
12:19 AM rue_mohr: is ok, we can get things done here
08:28 AM polprog: vinese fpga led drivers came in
08:28 AM polprog: chinese*
08:28 AM polprog: there is a pile of stuff to play with, luckily our break starts on thursday
08:29 AM polprog: ill just have to write something for one class and ill be free!
08:29 AM polprog: to mess at the bench
08:29 AM polprog: :)
08:29 AM polprog: finally
02:04 PM rue_shop1: :)
02:06 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL2zajQw2Rg
02:06 PM Tom_L: rigid tap with accelerated retract
02:06 PM Tom_L: hard to tell but you can sorta hear the pitch difference in the spindle
02:07 PM rue_mohr: my mind still says "yike"
02:07 PM Tom_L: worked ok at 2x
02:07 PM Tom_L: much more and it doesn't like it
02:11 PM rue_mohr: you going to dare to do a soft metal test?
02:11 PM Tom_L: i've done aluminum in the past
02:11 PM Tom_L: i don't really have the right taps to go very deep
02:11 PM Tom_L: you need spiral flute for cnc
02:12 PM Tom_L: all mine are straight
02:13 PM rue_shop2: rue_mohr, The green man is your lover ;)
02:13 PM Tom_L: you _can_ do more than one pass a bit deeper each time
02:13 PM Tom_L: it will follow the same thread
02:13 PM rue_mohr: :/ mooooooon
02:14 PM rue_shop2: :D
02:14 PM rue_mohr: why you never turn the shop lights on ?
02:14 PM rue_shop1: :3
02:14 PM rue_shop2: mask up, dont get close
02:14 PM rue_mohr: I have to go to gbs
02:14 PM Tom_L: yeah what he said
02:14 PM rue_mohr: I need to get a tarp and get that trike out of my truck
02:14 PM rue_mohr: so I can do my recycling
02:14 PM rue_shop2: I can help lift maybe
02:15 PM rue_mohr: yea I....
02:15 PM rue_mohr: actually it helps that its not pouring rain
02:15 PM rue_mohr: maybe we can get the trike out now
02:15 PM rue_mohr: I'll put some pants on...
02:15 PM rue_shop2: ok
02:15 PM rue_shop1: cool
11:08 PM darkrose: hi rue, guess who, not a bee on here
11:08 PM rue_mohr: oh hi
11:09 PM rue_mohr: were you alrady on irc?
11:09 PM darkrose: yeah
11:09 PM rue_mohr: haha
11:09 PM rue_mohr: the latency on twitter is killer
11:09 PM rue_mohr: not to mention I get a complete transcript emailed to be one line at a time :/
11:09 PM rue_mohr: you may know polprog
11:10 PM rue_mohr: Tom_L, is a machinist by hobby
11:10 PM rue_mohr: you may know of aandrew
11:10 PM rue_mohr: and 'moon' turns up, he's a local guy around me
11:10 PM darkrose: I think you're overestimating the size of the rock I hide under
11:11 PM rue_mohr: yea, those listings just look stupid
11:11 PM darkrose: there was a shed with bathroom for 48k
11:11 PM rue_mohr: I mean, that sask listing isn't awesome, but its not as bad as those
11:12 PM rue_mohr: do you have a lot of stuff right now? I mean, are you easy to relocate?
11:12 PM darkrose: moved everything I own in one go, ute (pickup) + 6x4 trailer
11:12 PM rue_mohr: k
11:13 PM rue_mohr: that doesn't neccisarily make an international trip easy, but its a good ways there
11:14 PM darkrose: yeah, my sister moved to the US several years ago, so I'll have a chat with her when she's awake
11:14 PM rue_mohr: I think canada would be easier
11:14 PM rue_mohr: and safer
11:14 PM rue_mohr: https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-grenfell-130336194
11:14 PM rue_mohr: its big, but...
11:15 PM rue_mohr: still not as good as what you found
11:15 PM darkrose: probably, and definitely; but someone who's done a cross-pacific move would have some tips
11:15 PM darkrose: yeah, that's basically my entire budget right there
11:15 PM rue_mohr: and I noticed there are several other properties in that area (not same town) that compare
11:16 PM darkrose: https://www.realestate.com.au/property-residential+land-sa-curramulka-202848330 this + shipping container as a house was/is an option
11:17 PM rue_mohr: that looks ok
11:17 PM rue_mohr: +- area
11:17 PM rue_mohr: I mean, can you get supplies there?
11:17 PM darkrose: I know some people (vaguely) in that area
11:17 PM rue_mohr: "reserve TCE"
11:18 PM rue_mohr: is that an area possibly under some racial tension?
11:18 PM darkrose: yeah, there's a few shops in town, 15km to next town with bigger shops + an engineering works / steel supplies
11:18 PM rue_mohr: k
11:19 PM darkrose: not that I'm aware of
11:19 PM rue_mohr: oh dear god its not even .3 acres
11:20 PM rue_mohr: tho the 0.5 acres I have here is supposedly now worth ~$500000
11:20 PM rue_mohr: (2023 m^2)
11:21 PM darkrose: yeah, nominally 4000m² is an acre
11:21 PM rue_mohr: yea, I'd like to say your crazy, but I cant.
11:21 PM rue_mohr: hmm
11:21 PM darkrose: I'm not going to get much land here, unless it's not anywhere I'd wanna be
11:22 PM rue_mohr: when I visted, there were a bunch of people on the mountian
11:22 PM rue_mohr: but supplies is a huge issue
11:22 PM aandrew: I rather like how rue talks to himself through is various irc nicks
11:23 PM rue_mohr: this morning that was moon, physically in my shop
11:23 PM aandrew: ah darkrose = lisa?
11:23 PM * darkrose may possibly be another person
11:23 PM rue_mohr: I need to get my driveway chime working
11:23 PM darkrose: yes, hi
11:23 PM aandrew: hello, I follow you on twitter
11:23 PM darkrose: we know each other somewhere?
11:23 PM darkrose: oh, cool
11:24 PM aandrew: saskatchewan is kind of boring. and so flat you can watch your dog run away for 3 days
11:24 PM rue_mohr: hahah
11:24 PM rue_mohr: but the houses are affordable
11:24 PM darkrose: lol
11:24 PM rue_mohr: seriosly they wanted like $64000 for a 3mx300m strip in oz
11:24 PM aandrew: rue lives on the west coast, and you have to take a ferry to get to his place. I am certain one of his neighbours is saskwatch (not moon, another one)
11:24 PM aandrew: and yes, SK would be affordable
11:25 PM aandrew: I live in Ontario, 3h from both detroit and buffalo
11:25 PM rue_mohr: is sask mining or oil?
11:25 PM aandrew: sask is neither AFAIK, it's wheat
11:25 PM rue_mohr: bc is wood, I think
11:25 PM rue_mohr: oh
11:25 PM aandrew: ontario exports whiny torontonians mostly
11:26 PM rue_mohr: heh
11:26 PM aandrew: BC is mostly wood, yes
11:26 PM darkrose: yeah, there's a farming machinery manufacturer at that place I linked on twitter rue, so mostly farming by the looks of it
11:27 PM aandrew: darkrose: we don't know each other at all; you're just one of the interesting people on twitter
11:27 PM darkrose: I'll take that as a compliment :p
11:27 PM aandrew: MB, SK and I bet most of AB are all pretty damn cheap
11:28 PM aandrew: it's meant to be one. this is one of the very few channels that seems to scratch all my geeky itches
11:28 PM aandrew: machining, electronics, retro-without-fetishizing-it computing, thinking out of the box... good people here, hopefully you'll stick around
11:29 PM aandrew: it's the tinkering aspect (cross-discipline) that I am particularly fond of here
11:29 PM darkrose: I rarely close irc, so you're probably stuck with me now
11:30 PM aandrew: so are you able to immigrate to Canada since you're a citizen of the commonwealth? IIRC I was able to visit HK for work for similar reasons
11:30 PM rue_mohr: If your moving to canada, keep me updated, I'm tempted to help
11:30 PM aandrew: darkrose: yeah my IRC window never closes. got a ZNC bouncer and a colocated server to do it from
11:30 PM rue_mohr: yea, I was thinking of the commonwealth thing too,
11:30 PM aandrew: been this way for like... 20, 25y?
11:31 PM aandrew: I *think* lots of Canada is pretty affordable if you're willing to be out in the boonies
11:32 PM rue_mohr: I was looking at that town carefully to make sure it wasn't an abandoned mining down
11:32 PM rue_mohr: town
11:32 PM rue_mohr: but its not
11:32 PM aandrew: even somewhat northern ontario (thunder bay, north bay, etc.) I think is affordable
11:32 PM rue_mohr: that said, population 388
11:32 PM aandrew: which town is that?
11:32 PM rue_mohr: is alberta one of the particularily cold ones?
11:32 PM aandrew: your town's pretty small too
11:32 PM rue_mohr: its a satillite of saskatoon
11:32 PM rue_mohr: were more than 388
11:33 PM rue_mohr: about 20k-30k
11:33 PM aandrew: most of canada is signficantly more north of my location,w hich is about as far south as you can get before becoming an american
11:33 PM aandrew: you've got the ocean, rue to moderate you but I suspect inland is pretty cold
11:34 PM rue_mohr: I know it feels colder here cause of the ocean/humidity, I cant remember what areas get dumped on for snow
11:35 PM rue_mohr: but I also know there should be areas where you can buy 20 acres for like $12k
11:37 PM rue_mohr: huh, nothing in ashcroft?
11:37 PM aandrew: Toronto is like -7 average winter temp. North Bay (3ish-h north) is -18, winterpeg is is the same, saskatoon is -21, calgary -14, fort mac -22, prince george (inland BC) is -11, and vancouver is +3
11:37 PM aandrew: there's also out east.. very cheap out there but they get bad winters and employment can be an issue
11:38 PM darkrose: there's places here where I could get 30 acres for 20-25k... but it'd be near 50°C in the summer
11:38 PM aandrew: hm, this might be an issue. I just ate an entire tin of hickory smoked almonds
11:38 PM aandrew: that was unintentional
11:38 PM rue_mohr: underground house?
11:38 PM aandrew: s/house/lair/
11:38 PM rue_mohr: all you have to do is dig a foundationa nd your done :)
11:39 PM darkrose: there's those too, dugouts
11:39 PM rue_mohr: well
11:39 PM rue_mohr: if your into the idea, you could probably fix that place up you were looking at and flip it
11:39 PM rue_mohr: gradually work your way up
11:40 PM aandrew: I've worked in basements or windowless offices almost all my career. fuck that. I want a view
11:40 PM rue_mohr: 48" view courtesy of amazon delivery,
11:40 PM darkrose: heh
11:40 PM rue_mohr: summer all year round
11:40 PM rue_mohr: optional AC
11:40 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: everyone says that, no thanks
11:41 PM aandrew: I want a window I can open and see real otuside, not a projection of it
11:41 PM rue_mohr: most of ashcroft BURNED DOWN a few years ago, and there is still like nothing for sale
11:41 PM aandrew: it's one of my character flaws I guess
11:41 PM rue_mohr: heh
11:41 PM aandrew: what's the population of the town you're in, rue?
11:41 PM rue_mohr: 20k-30k
11:42 PM rue_mohr: but nobody can afford houses
11:42 PM rue_mohr: were too close to vancouver and everything affordable gets slurped up by property hoarders
11:42 PM aandrew: holy crap that many people?!
11:42 PM rue_mohr: yea
11:42 PM rue_mohr: our economy here is based on building houses
11:43 PM rue_mohr: and NOT the resources to support them...
11:43 PM darkrose: re: doing a place up and selling; I tend to burrow in and not leave once I'm somewhere
11:43 PM rue_mohr: if you know what I mean...
11:43 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, yea, I understand
11:44 PM aandrew: I'm the same way. I'm a serious homebody. covid has been an incredible blessing in that regard
11:44 PM rue_mohr: darkrose, would you like me to put you in contact with some people here who immigrated from oz?
11:45 PM rue_mohr: cat needs feeding... brb
11:45 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: shouldn't they be hunting
11:47 PM rue_mohr: no I dont want the coyotes getting them
11:47 PM aandrew: oh right
11:47 PM aandrew: yeah we have coyotes here in my backyard (literal) too
11:48 PM darkrose: I'd complain about dangerous wildlife, but a cat was eaten by a snake a couple of streets away last month
11:48 PM aandrew: in fact one stole my newspaper and I got him on video: https://youtu.be/MtyAn9lsGLs
11:48 PM rue_mohr: ...
11:48 PM darkrose: rue_mohr: yeah, maybe? I'm looking at that site a bit more seriously now
11:49 PM rue_mohr: he gonna go sell it, its a hustle
11:50 PM aandrew: rue_mohr: nah, found the shredded newspaper under a tree next to a pile of coyote shit, little bastard just wanted something to read
11:50 PM rue_mohr: like I say, I want to say "no thats stupid" but I cant
11:50 PM rue_mohr: haha
11:50 PM rue_mohr: maybe they will send a randsom for the next one
11:51 PM darkrose: I went to look up houses there to say "this is the kind of crap I can afford, stop bugging me, I'm trying"... then discovered there's some decent buys in canada
11:52 PM rue_mohr: that house was not in great shape, but multiple times better than some of the oz listings I saw
11:52 PM rue_mohr: like you said about the place with the walls fallin in
11:53 PM aandrew: darkrose: we were looking to move to BC last year. we were able to find a couple agents who understood what we were looking for and would send us listings that matched. Perhaps something similar could work for you as well?
11:53 PM rue_mohr: I'd get that house she found
11:53 PM rue_mohr: I can fix stuff, I'v had to my whole life
11:54 PM rue_mohr: thats how I got this place
11:54 PM rue_mohr: still need to put a new house on it
11:54 PM rue_mohr: ....and 1200 square foot workshop...
11:55 PM aandrew: that's a nice workshop
11:55 PM darkrose: rue_mohr: this is where that house was too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terowie,_South_Australia#Asbestos_and_water_contamination
11:56 PM rue_mohr: oh
11:56 PM aandrew: that's a nice workshop
11:59 PM rue_mohr: if I could just get it made
11:59 PM rue_mohr: I'm worried that it'll cost $800k to build the house/shop