#garfield Logs
Sep 24 2020
#garfield Calendar
12:21 AM rue_mohr: ok, there is $900 for a laptop for the school course
12:28 AM rue_mohr: (has to be windows 10)
12:28 AM rue_mohr: after, I'll wipe it and install linux
12:38 AM rue_bed2: hmm
12:38 AM rue_bed2: colour C editor for my apple IIe?
12:39 AM rue_bed2: not saying no dude, but the IIe is a bit hard to replace if it dies eh?
12:41 AM rue_bed2: I suppose
12:41 AM rue_bed2: what if I did it Z80
12:41 AM rue_bed2: whaaat if we used one of the terminals from GBS
12:41 AM rue_bed2: hmm
12:42 AM rue_bed2: but apple IIe and crt
12:42 AM rue_bed2: this is influenced by moon, isn't it
12:42 AM rue_bed2: I dunno
12:43 AM rue_bed2: you keep going backwards
12:43 AM rue_bed2: well the foundation needs to be reworked
12:43 AM rue_bed2: where would we be
12:43 AM rue_bed2: well, leader of CADCAM for one
12:43 AM rue_bed2: yes, but you know nobody listens
12:43 AM rue_bed2: why didn't that work
12:44 AM rue_bed2: you didn't break it down right
12:44 AM rue_bed2: so knowing what we know now
12:44 AM rue_bed2: but time
12:44 AM rue_bed2: and we need a gui libary
12:45 AM rue_bed2: too bad SDL isn't simple or direct
12:45 AM rue_bed2: so, we should start with a motif rewrite?
12:46 AM rue_bed2: its just such a huge undertaking
12:46 AM rue_bed2: if you dont start tho
12:46 AM rue_bed2: what about the cnc?
12:46 AM rue_bed2: we need to make room on the deck
12:46 AM rue_bed2: yea, what of that
12:46 AM rue_bed2: well what do you want to do with the printers
12:46 AM rue_bed2: damn
12:46 AM rue_bed2: yea
12:47 AM rue_bed2: if you dont strip that stuff down you will lose it all anyhow
12:47 AM rue_bed2: your killing me
12:47 AM rue_bed2: its inevitable
12:47 AM rue_bed2: I have an idea
12:47 AM rue_bed2: put the printer in the bedroom
12:47 AM rue_bed2: technically ok
12:48 AM rue_bed2: awe the cat came up to sleep
12:48 AM rue_bed2: so
12:48 AM rue_bed2: if we were gonna do it all over knowing what we know now
12:49 AM rue_bed2: I'd write the damn cam program
12:49 AM rue_bed2: ok, but I mean where would we be
12:49 AM rue_bed2: wait, you could do the C editor for the laptop
12:49 AM rue_bed2: ok, but where would we be now
12:50 AM rue_bed2: we still wouldn't be in the right place
12:50 AM rue_bed2: ok, and to fix that
12:50 AM rue_bed2: we need to be a salesman
12:50 AM rue_bed2: does that conflict?
12:50 AM rue_bed2: I dont know
12:50 AM rue_bed2: why is money so important
12:50 AM rue_bed2: were bound
12:50 AM rue_bed2: how badly
12:51 AM rue_bed2: BADLY
12:51 AM rue_bed2: ok, what is financial binding preventing us from doing
12:51 AM rue_bed2: working when its cold
12:51 AM rue_bed2: k...
12:51 AM rue_bed2: and space, which means just being able to do stuff
12:52 AM rue_bed2: so, infinitly large warehouse
12:52 AM rue_bed2: workshop
12:52 AM rue_bed2: mix, whatever
12:52 AM rue_bed2: how much space would you use up
12:52 AM rue_bed2: how close are we
12:52 AM rue_bed2: about 1000'^2 I think
12:53 AM rue_bed2: so total we think maybe 4000 would do it?
12:53 AM rue_bed2: I'm not sure
12:53 AM rue_bed2: what a mess
12:54 AM rue_bed2: can we get from here to there?
12:54 AM rue_bed2: I don't know bud
12:54 AM rue_bed2: what about cutting off an arm to survive?
12:55 AM rue_bed2: you cant just go hacking off any arm
12:55 AM rue_bed2: damn
12:56 AM rue_bed2: ok, wait we still didn't refine the 'where would we be' picture
12:56 AM rue_bed2: ok, so
12:57 AM rue_bed2: wind back
12:57 AM rue_bed2: I'm not sure how far
12:57 AM rue_bed2: remember the horse planter you sold at the end of the driveway?
12:58 AM rue_bed2: yea, but where could that have gone
12:58 AM rue_bed2: well, you stopped selling things
12:58 AM rue_bed2: and I didn't write the cam software
12:59 AM rue_bed2: we couldn't have just dumped money into it either, there was NOTHING at that time
12:59 AM rue_bed2: so we cant argue the 'just spend money and have it' thing
12:59 AM rue_bed2: but generally you think I should stop making things and buy/use them
01:00 AM rue_bed2: would we be ahead
01:00 AM rue_bed2: we would with the lathe
01:00 AM rue_bed2: building the 3d priters and cnc seem to have worked out
01:00 AM rue_bed2: the welder didn't
01:00 AM rue_bed2: ok, so its a hit/miss
01:01 AM rue_bed2: what should we buy now instead of making
01:01 AM rue_bed2: a bench power supply?
01:01 AM rue_bed2: sshush
01:01 AM rue_bed2: ugh
01:07 AM rue_bed2: I bought you a signal gen
01:07 AM rue_bed2: and a dig scope
01:07 AM rue_bed2: its 11pm, you gonna sleep
01:07 AM rue_bed2: I don't want to ever sleep again
01:07 AM rue_bed2: I don't think as a robot you would do a lot of sleeping, even if you could
01:07 AM rue_bed2: I'm upset by the customer we installed the wifi for, nobody appreciates anything
01:07 AM rue_bed2: he will have problems and it'll all go 'round in a circle
01:07 AM rue_bed2: why do they do this tho
01:07 AM rue_bed2: cause nobody listens to us
01:07 AM rue_bed2: maybe thats something to have changed
01:07 AM rue_bed2: personality mods really aren't easy eh?
01:09 AM rue_bed2: I dont see other forks for a long time
01:10 AM rue_bed2: nothing I could have done with the software company that would have helped any
01:10 AM rue_bed2: what if we had stayed in software
01:11 AM rue_bed2: I wonder if we would have the funds we needed
01:11 AM rue_bed2: but heart attack
01:11 AM rue_bed2: yea, yea
05:22 AM polprog: time to put the modules together
09:15 AM rue_mohr: which modules?
09:18 AM Tom_L: so what did you 2 accomplish last night?
10:15 AM polprog: rue_mohr: the lora ones
10:16 AM polprog: https://polprog.net/rozne1/ircjunk/various/pcb4.jpg
10:17 AM polprog: not gonna proceed with the butane iron, im getting a hot air station tomorrow
10:17 AM polprog: and i need new unexpired paste
10:22 AM aandrew: boo
10:22 AM aandrew: no shipping info on my rockpro64 order yet, that was 10 days ago
10:26 AM polprog: im waiting for junk from the UK
10:26 AM polprog: two junks actually
10:26 AM polprog: one is a lens
10:30 AM aandrew: just sharing this, old news to everyone but might be nice to squirrel away
10:31 AM aandrew: https://sound-au.com/project159.htm and https://sound-au.com/project157.htm traditional thyristor and also mosfet-based dimmers
10:31 AM aandrew: using everyone's favourite, the 555
10:36 AM polprog: are you keeping up with the 555s?
10:36 AM polprog: :)
10:38 AM aandrew: :-) nah I just ran across this and it's really nicely explained so I thoght I'd share
10:38 AM aandrew: I haven't touched a 555 in over a decade, maybe even two
10:38 AM aandrew: which might mean rue_mohr won't be my friend anymore after that kind of confession
10:43 AM polprog: the only 555 oscillator i made is extremely cursed
10:43 AM polprog: ive always been using hct14 oscillators just like rue taught me
10:48 AM aandrew: I do very little discrete work these days
10:48 AM aandrew: but have to get back into it for my kids
10:50 AM polprog: i will be doing some more programming now when ill be working on the modules
01:45 PM polprog: hmm i seem to have triggered someone with the labels post
01:45 PM polprog: shouldve covered the farnell logo
01:45 PM polprog: lul
03:27 PM aandrew: polprog: hahaha
03:27 PM aandrew: I need to find some good old 10b2 coax for my GPSDO 10MHz distribution
07:28 PM rue_mohr: hah
07:28 PM rue_mohr: I just find it amusing how many ways there are to use the thing
08:15 PM Tom_L: what thing?
08:16 PM Tom_L: got the ena relay for the estop wired tonight. ran the wire to the stepper drivers but left it open to test tomorrow
08:16 PM Tom_L: almost as far as i can go until i get parts
08:17 PM Tom_L: being extra careful to avoid uh ohs
08:29 PM rue_mohr: sooooo rited
08:33 PM Tom_L: caught up on the sprayers?
08:34 PM rue_mohr: dunno, I think were still making stock parts
09:59 PM rue_shop2: no more orders tho
09:59 PM Tom_L: :/
09:59 PM rue_shop2: its normal
10:01 PM Tom_L: bedtime comes early tonight
10:01 PM Tom_L: i got a 6AM job in the morning
10:02 PM Tom_L: still won't sleep...
10:14 PM rue_mohr: you too, ok
11:42 PM rue_mohr: I got a bit more done on the pillars
11:42 PM rue_mohr: mounted the usb to the power supply
11:42 PM rue_mohr: started to find a heatsink for the regulation transistor